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Scottish Mer
02-01-2015, 06:34 AM
Hopefully posting this in the right area but check these out, haven't seen them posted up on the forum anywhere. :jawdrop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZRhjYdt0RM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICXiijPt7nw

By the way they are done they look really realistic but must cause some drag though. Seems like the project they were used for didn't get finished. What do you mers think? :swoon:

Mermaid Jaffa
02-01-2015, 06:48 AM
Its pretty. And looks very heavy to swim in!

Echidna
02-01-2015, 07:26 AM
Ye, I've seen those before.
While I'm all for longer tails, I don't think these look particularly good or realistic, because it's very obvious that it's just some trailing fabric below their monofin, and there is nothing organic in the trailing fake fluke on the very end.

This looks unnatural, as something that has a fluke will not swim in this way (with a trailing, all wriggling tail-end).
It would be ok for an eel-shaped mer or a snake, but if you put a fluke there, it'd be necessary to be stiff to the end and the push coming from the fluke, like the H2O tails.

An alternative would have been putting the fluke visibly where it really is, and add some trailing, betta-fish like streamers to the end to make the tail appear longer.

Scottish Mer
02-01-2015, 08:10 AM
Fair enough, I just got 'wowed' by them this morning. Eel mermaid tail here I come! I really want to try making one but maybe work a way to make the extra trail look more realistic. :)

AniaR
02-01-2015, 09:34 AM
Oh wow flash back!! I'd forgotten these!

Mermaid Galene
02-01-2015, 11:51 AM
Makes me think Eep! Fish with a broken tail! Then I turn to look at my goldfish and wince at the idea.

Rogue Siren
02-01-2015, 02:18 PM
I think they're cool. The guy's dark tail was really cool, like that eel idea. The way they did it was creative. They made the monofin into fins and added the trailing fluke.

Starfrit
02-01-2015, 10:31 PM
They may not be totally realistic, but I have to admit I really love the look of these! Aesthetically, I think they look beautiful, but yeah... I can't imagine what the drag must be like on those!

Merrella
02-01-2015, 11:29 PM
oh wow! lovely!

Joy&RaptorsUnrestrained!
02-03-2015, 12:57 AM
Sigh... I don't know, aside from requiring a lot more fabric, these don't seem like they'd be harder to make than the normal fabric tail. I do like the eel design on the one merman, and I love the fin designs... I'm curious though... if the look is supposed to be more fishy and flowing and they don't mind the drag, then would the design work just as well with a vertical end fluke instead of a horizontal one?

Rebekah.fish
02-03-2015, 01:22 AM
I think these r super cool! I think they r pretty realistic! I don't like how long they are though. That'd be rough

Echidna
02-03-2015, 05:31 AM
if the look is supposed to be more fishy and flowing and they don't mind the drag, then would the design work just as well with a vertical end fluke instead of a horizontal one?

Would look even more unnatural and unrealistic, because no fish swims by swishing its vertical fluke up and down.
If realism isn't important, you're right- it doesn't matter at all if they put a vertical fin there instead.

I swim in similar tails (without fluke on the end), and while the motion looks pretty, it's hell to swim in.
Maybe that's why the project was never finished? :p

Sherielle
02-03-2015, 10:03 AM
I know people do it, mainly kids, but I still can't imagine swimming in a tail without a fluke. Echidna, you are a pro. To me that would be swimming in a tight long dress and I would feel like I'm drowning.

Echidna
02-03-2015, 11:37 AM
My problem is getting down, not staying up!
If I were a sinker, I'd definitely not dare tailswim without monofin for safety reasons.

I've found snaketails look best without any fin inside, but as I said: the drag is horrendous, it feels as if I'm hardly moving at all.

Miyu
02-03-2015, 05:55 PM
TBH, when I was new to the mer world, I was kind of blown away by these tails! If you're not surrounded by mer-stuff 24/7 like most of us are, then it looks super-realistic and very eerie. When I was a n00b mer, it took me a while to understand how these tails worked (I was so confused about where the monofin was). To the average eye, these tails are very hypnotizing, and probably look very realistic to the general public.

Hoping to do something like this someday when my swimming skills are better! I really like the idea of eerie mers with super-long tails :)

AniaR
02-03-2015, 06:02 PM
I never really thought the goal was to look realistic. I feel like some of us oldies talked to these people back in 07/08 maybe? I thought it was in development for an underwater performance or something. Not sure if it ever happened. To me it just looks really artistic and flowy and neat. And I think the fabric was just testing a prototype that they planned on casting later in silicone and latex. I think of memory serves me they were talking on either seatails or deviantart back in the day. Any of the other oldies from 07/08 remember what I am talking about? lol

AniaR
02-03-2015, 06:07 PM
oh yeah yep! Hannah Fraser even tested it. I remember now and found some comments! Hannah's in a couple of the shots. I bet if we asked her she'd tell us about it.

They ran out of money. It's too bad it wasnt during the kickstarter days they might of stood a better chance. Back in the day there wasn't much for tails that people could make for a short film budget. I remember thats why they went with the 4 way stretch fabric. these videos were them testing out designs and different fabrics, learning to lip sync underwater etc. They wanted to be the first film done totally underwater.

Big ambitions, but just before their time I think. I wonder if they went on to do anything else?

Miyu
02-03-2015, 06:51 PM
It really was *just* before their time... I wonder if they'd be willing to re-open the project, now that it's easier to get funding for these sorts of things? Plus, all the advances we've made in underwater film-making in the past few years could really come in handy with their project.

Scottish Mer
02-03-2015, 06:58 PM
It be nice if they could bring back the project, I'm sure they could get funding for it. :/
Apart from that. I have been into mermaiding for years but still find these tails 'realistic' or well a close enough h2o fabric style tail. Which most the children here can point out like a mile away.
Though, where the monofin causes the fabric to bend does look pretty painful if you go anatomy.

Mermaid Alea
02-13-2015, 01:44 AM
I might make some of you roll your eyes when I say this, but I don't care if it doesn't look realistic enough, this is AMAZING! Oh my gosh I sooo want to make one! :swoon:

What do you think they used? Neoprene or just regular 4 way stretch fabric? I was thinking neoprene at first but the ends of the tail have me confused. I doubt I could make one so neat looking, but I really love this idea. I have just the place to swim in a tail like this too. Mwahahahaha!

Mermaid Jaffa
02-13-2015, 07:41 AM
I'm pretty sure its fabric. In some shots, the ends of the tails kinda flop a bit when they stop swimming and the fabric just flows about!

Ashton
02-21-2015, 11:13 AM
Those are really neat! The guy looks like and eel! I wonder how much fabric they used to get them to look so long- and if it was heavy.

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xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:09 AM
Susi (http://rectifiersubstation.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:11 AM
Henr (http://redemptionvalue.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:12 AM
Hors (http://reducingflange.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:13 AM
Иван (http://referenceantigen.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:14 AM
33-4 (http://regeneratedprotein.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:15 AM
Андр (http://reinvestmentplan.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:16 AM
BLON (http://safedrilling.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:18 AM
Голл (http://sagprofile.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:19 AM
Голу (http://salestypelease.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:20 AM
Мели (http://samplinginterval.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:21 AM
губе (http://satellitehydrology.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:22 AM
hype (http://scarcecommodity.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:24 AM
Лите (http://scrapermat.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:25 AM
PUNK (http://screwingunit.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:26 AM
Конд (http://seawaterpump.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:27 AM
Брон (http://secondaryblock.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:28 AM
Иллю (http://secularclergy.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:29 AM
Фарк (http://seismicefficiency.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:31 AM
множ (http://selectivediffuser.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:32 AM
вооб (http://semiasphalticflux.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:33 AM
Курс (http://semifinishmachining.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:34 AM
меся (http://spicetrade.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:35 AM
меся (http://spysale.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:36 AM
меся (http://stungun.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:38 AM
Expe (http://tacticaldiameter.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:39 AM
Intr (http://tailstockcenter.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:40 AM
Пере (http://tamecurve.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:41 AM
Geor (http://tapecorrection.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:42 AM
Anjo (http://tappingchuck.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:43 AM
Иман (http://taskreasoning.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:45 AM
окон (http://technicalgrade.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:46 AM
авто (http://telangiectaticlipoma.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:47 AM
Лавр (http://telescopicdamper.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:48 AM
Drea (http://temperateclimate.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:49 AM
акад (http://temperedmeasure.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:51 AM
Смир (http://tenementbuilding.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:52 AM
tuchkas (http://tuchkas.ru/)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:53 AM
Adob (http://ultramaficrock.ru)

xaccer2
11-14-2023, 03:54 AM
дете (http://ultraviolettesting.ru)