Canadian silicone tail maker?!?!

[AniaR]

Another Canadian mermaid found this has anyone heard anything? https://www.etsy.com/listing/228861131/swimable-full-silicone-mermaid-tail

Dragonskin company smooth on won't ship to Canada as their product won't cure properly in our climate. I am wondering how she guarantees a good cure...

[Fun123joker]

kinda hopes all perimeters are in check. could save some shipping cost for people in the Americas

[OceanRose]

Her octopus mermaid bra is so cool!

[Elle]

I guess if you had a large enough work space that could be enclosed so that you could climate control the area is a possibility.....Then the weather wouldn't effect the silicone. But it probably isn't dragonskin if smooth-on won't ship there. It'd be another platinum cure silicone.

[AniaR]

that's what I was thinking climate control. One of the girls sent her an email to get more info

[Ashe]

Not too bad of a tail though... I'm guessing she hasn't made many.

[AniaR]

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https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11115714_799006486836064_8548552261164992067_n.jpg ?oh=6225f041af2d7c01528df3eb26978d5d&oe=559C3DE5



I think there is potential there. Def early stages.

[MerMatt]

I am pretty sure that Smooth-On ships to Canada as I believe Prairie Mermaid Jamie got hers from a distributor in Calgary.

[Prairie Mermaid Jamie]

http://www.smooth-on.com/pages.php?pID=105

Smooth on has canadian distributers. They have for a while. From bc to ontario. Distributors will ship. Mine was shipped in october and cures just fine. Yes you need an indoor place to pour it.

Smooth on itself probably doesnt direct ship to any country it had distributors like most specialty retail. Id rather let the distributor deal with the shipping anyways!

Her name is Tracy and shes an mua in calgary. Ive seen her work around. Had no idea she made tails. Ill try to get up close and personal with these tails and check em out!

[Merman Arion]

You're right. There is definitely potential. Although I'm noticing some big sizing issues..

[Mermaid Mystery]

You're right. There is definitely potential. Although I'm noticing some big sizing issues..

I noticed that too. the fluke is awesome, the sizing needs improvement.


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[Mermaid Wesley]

Nice! The more the merrier in my book. I hope they are able to improve and stuff :D


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[Rett]

Definitely seeing potential. Those flukes in particular look amazing, love the shape and details! Those wrinkles however will have to go... I am also very interested in the 2-3 week wait time. Is that even enough time for all the silicone in a full tail to be put together and finish curing? That time-span just seems awfully short...

[Samantha Siren]

It should be fine, mermaid Jessica made two stunning tails in less time than that.

[AniaR]

For me i think its too short for being in Canada with our weather that affects silicone curing. I'm interested to see how it plays out anyway and how she improves

[Prairie Mermaid Jamie]

Raina, I adore you but you are seriously misinformed about silicone in canada. Please stop telling people it doesnt cure and we cant get it here. Youve known for months you can get it and work with it here. Why you keep telling people otherwise is beyond me. Maybe look at the link I posted. Did it occur to you that we have indoor heated workspaces so it doesnt matter if its 40 below?
Shes been almost completely turned off this forum by some of these comments and she does not deserve to sit and be upset all frickin night because some of you were snotty. This is not the way this community should be presenting itself and im sorry but the meanest comments were from you, raina.

Ive spoken with tracy and seen them both in person.
The one was made for a model who bailed. The jacked it to make it fit a different girl. They are beginner works. She will make progress and become better given the chance.

I had a nice long talk with her. Shes a real person and I know many who vouch for her. I explained the track record of unknowns and the bad things that have happened so she understand but when I was finished speaking with her I was ashamed at the way she had been treated. I dont know if she will ever join this place now.

The pink and purple one is her own tail so it never was made for the model that wore it. The octopus top was made for one size then had to be adjusted. Its on a DD bra right now. I will upload the photos I took at a later time when I had wifi.

Shes a sweet girl who deserves a chance like everyone else.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Hey hon dont worry, we are all giving her a chance. Everyone starts somewhere, even if the tail was that ill-fitting on accident, we would still give her a lot of support, I think. I can only speak for myself, but still.

[AniaR]

Jamie these posts were from before you informed me ( not months ago- literally a day before you told me which was the first I'd ever heard check the time stamps). My info came right from smoothon . So I'm glad to hear someone else can now get silicone here which is what I said to you after you told me. There's loads of info all over the place about weather causing cure inhibition. Finfolk will tell you it was one of the big reasons why they moved. And yeah it did occur to me which is why both here and fb I suggested maybe she had a climate controlled space??

I'm kinda bothered by how defensive you are about it honestly. Nothing I said was inappropriate just the usual concerns we all voice over new tail makers. I was very excited and posted many nice things here and on fb. And I reached out to her weeks ago on fb with compliments and questions! So I'll ask you to please not take it so personally and act like I'm attacking her.

I don't think anything I said was out of the norm.

[AniaR]

The whole reason I made this thread is because I am EXCITED that someone is taking this on in CANADA since it's so rare. I'd like to seem them succeed. Her tails remind me a lot of when Finfolk first started out- and we also posted about finfolk when they first started and they have come a LONG way. My questions/concerns shouldn't be taken as some sort of attack. If I was attacking someone it would be pretty clear honestly... I'm just wondering how she handles things in our area there's no need for anyone to get defensive. So I apologize to the artist if she somehow found my comments offensive. Weeks ago I left her many compliments all over her photos and in message and shared her page. So if she was upset with me it would have been nice to know instead of log on to this kind of a post. (IN any regard I sent her a message)

It reminded me a lot of when finfolk started :) remember these ones?

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/644344_152157248281555_217764690_n.jpg?oh=4f38db4d a43c8e75da7df543378a0584&oe=55E4A900

https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/574911_150198015144145_1062212969_n.jpg?oh=9c2f7f4 6e0b2ad868b68a058d9447219&oe=55A3592D

I see a lot of the same things between her beginnings and theirs. So when I say I think there's a lot of potential I mean it ;) everyone starts somewhere and I think we all know that.

[Mermaid Mutiny]

I've been following the threads on here and on fb about this new tailmaker and honestly I've only seen constructive criticism on how she can improve her work as well as lots of positive encouragement for her. I don't see anywhere how she was being bullied so I think it's unfair for anyone to be making that assessment. If nobody expresses concern or asks questions how is anybody going to learn. Especially when so many mers have had trouble with tailmakers, it's only natural for them to ask questions. And honestly, I hope she does well because we need this in Canada, but if she can't handle these kind of positive and constructive comments, how can she handle some of the tough clients that tailmakers get?

[AniaR]

Just a heads up I chatted with the artist and we're all good :) she explained to me her side, I explained mine, and it's allll good. We both see where the other one is coming from and I am excited to see her progress! I hope she'll join here and post things. I think she just never expected it to get the response it did as fast as it did.

[Mermaid Momo]

I don't see any bullying here either. Just constructive criticism. If someone can't take constructive criticism then business probably isn't for them tbh. On a note about the tails, what is the strange shinyness they have too them? Like they are covered in some kind of liquid? Is that normal for silicone ? A lot of silicone tails I see are all matt and not shiny like that.

[Prairie Mermaid Jamie]

She has managed to create that with silicone. Its what she uses for color and added a pearl shine coat. The are wonderfully metalic and shiney. The two tails have some different materials and I think the darker one has more shimmer to it personally.
Shes a make up and sfx artist and has access to some amazing stuff.
Theres a difference between constructive criticism and condescension. The way raina speaks about silicone here and how it probably wont work and blah blah is getting old since shes been corrected many times. Your constantly saying it even though ive told you different for the last 6 months. you have seen my progress and I told you in my thread from last year.

And raina I never said she said your comments were rude. I said I felt yours were rude as youve been told before that silicone works just as well here as anywhere else. Youve said that your info was from smooth on. You also said that its from when raven made your first tail and thats so long ago it doesnt matter now.

If I had listened to you, I wouldnt be making my own tail. And honestly I felt so bad when she told me how she felt that I was sick of it and finally said something. I specifically mentioned you because you pull this same speil about silicone and your wrong and have been told many times your wrong, just nicer.


This community had a bad habit of jumping all over would be tailmakers because of past history with others. Yes some sucked. But everyone deserves a chance. She didnt come on here asking for opinions on her tails, or it would be constructive.

Im glad you straightened it out with her but I really dont appreciate you saying you didnt know till this tailmaker about silicone. When we both know thats a lie. makes me look like in ripping on you for no reason when in fact I am. I can grab screen shots if youd like.

I told her I would come and explain so everyone knew the reasoning for certain things. Im glad I did cuz it made you set things straight.

I normally dont say anything because im still thought of as new but I expect more from you being as well known as you are. People believe what you say. Make sure what your handing out infowise is accurate.

And thats enough of that. From now one im only speaking of the tails themselves. Drama gives me wrinkles.

[AniaR]

I'm not gonna argue with you here I PMed you on fb if you wanna hash it out with me. I don't recall you telling me prior to this so chances are I never saw your post or reply or whatever telling me that prior. I don't just lie or say the same old thing for fun. I said it because I believed based on my research it to be true but I doubt anyone here sees me as a leader in tail making or tail making resources. Why expect more of me? You waited two weeks to tell me off but in the fb thread I just got excited we could get silicone here now! You didn't express any hint of being upset there. Just informed me and I accepted what you said and moved on. You could of even thrown me a bone there and said, " remember I mentioned before...?" And I would of said no, I don't. Its unfair to speak to me on fb like everything is fine and then throw me under the bus on MerNetwork 2 weeks later. If that isn't drama what is it?

My communication with other mers is flooded. I can't keep up with the forum in many cases, facebook inbox is beyond flooded, I'm not sure what I've ever done to make anyone think I'd be told a fact and just keep choosing to say the opposite! I am allowed to make a mistake because I've missed something. For goodness sake. I would NEVER call you a liar for missing something, forgetting something, or getting something wrong.

I didn't know there was anything to set straight. Had she or you simply come to me I would of addressed it. And when I did address it with her she told things differently than how you paint them here.

PS for the record my concern about the silicone wasn't worth salt since both here and on fb people instantly posted it could work. Literally no one had their opinion impacted by me wondering how she got her silicone and dealt with curing issues.

[OceanWhisper]

Yay! a new tailmaker :D While it's still on the other half of the world for me, the flukes/detailing/coloring is amazing :D Let's hope they continue and become flawless like the big names :D :D

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