need help with building a rock!

[meremily]

hi guys
so im going to be on ''display'' at the 2012 montreal comic con and since its my first time doing that, the guy that is displaying me lol asked me to build something i could sit on!
so naturally i thought of a rock!
can you guys help me with ideas on how to build it?

thanks

[Odette]

i made one for the parade. you gonna need wood, wheels, and insulation foam with some grey paint.
oh! and some chicken wire.
mine was made for a parade so its really tall and i need to redo it but ill show you a pic next week

[ShyMer]

One thing I immediately thought of is that i'd probably end up being uncomfortable real fast. I need some sort of back support. Sledded into my church's brick wall a few years ago. Fun story. Back still hurts :/

Anyway maybe you could make some sort of a cover for a chair that looked like rock- like maybe a canvas cover with paint. I guess you'd have to find something to put on it to make it stiffer than regular canvas, I guess so it could have more of a rock texture or something. That way you'd be more comfortable sitting for a long period of time. That's what I'd be worried about with the seating.

I'm sure there are better ideas though. It's just a thought. I feel like a bench sort of seat or something you can fit multiple people on might be better. Then people could sit and have their pictures taken with you. I think I've seen people just use decorative fabric on top a regular old bench and it looked okay.

[Odette]

actually since your just sitting on it in one place? wood,wire,foam,and paint.so easy and the wood only costs $2.12 at home depot. chicken wire is wrapped around or you can use plank wood. put the stuff over it .tacky in 15 minutes. dry in a few hours.spray paint it. tada! will look like a volcano rock.

[Mermaid Photine]

Maybe take a padded chair, wrap the parts you aren't sitting on with wire, spray all of it an paint? Still provides back support, still looks like a rock.

[Joy&RaptorsUnrestrained!]

Instead of a rock, maybe a Birth of Venus inspired seashell might work instead, particularly if you built a mobile loveseat out of it.

[Mermaid Photine]

Oh! Lovely, Joy! I had a mermaid barbie who came with her own seashell. All her little accessories and a mini mermaid were in it. It was all very clever. Her tail lit up, too. I wish I knew where she went. It was an awesome barbie...

[meremily]

thanks you guys for all your answer!! mermaid odette, just went to your facebook, adore your tail, im making one too with help of an artist!!!

cant wait to see pics of the one you did for the parade.
i was thinking of doing that too, the insulated foam , so i guess im in a good start

[Odette]

wonderful! ill get on those pics. when is the event?

[meremily]

only in september but i need to be ready before may to present it to the owner of the booth

[MermanJesse]

Meremily, check out my website. I think I have what you are looking for. PVT me if you have any questions.

[meremily]

ok merman jesse!!! what is your website?

[Mermaid Saphira]

^ www.mermaidcreations-inc.com (http://www.mermaidcreations-inc.com) :D

[SweeteSiren]

I don't know how realistic this needs to be, but with comfort in mind, may I suggest a beanbag chair with a painted drop cloth over it?

[neonmermaid]

Use a chair, chicken wire, that expanding foam stuff, and spray paint. That should give you back support!

[meremily]

hi guys
i have my wooden structure for my rock. im gonna had a back support. but i have a question: next step is to take chicken wire to form a shape of a rock. ive found a site in french that says to make the shape with the wire then stuff it with newspaper and then put stripe of plaster then paint it. heres my question, i gonna sit on it and im afraid the side of the structure will not be hard, so would it be better to stuff it with newspaper under the wire and add high density foam( that one that is in a can and expand) and let the foam expend so that i dont see the chicken wire and paint the foam?i think merman jesse did something like that i dont want to had too much weight too. thanks for the help!

i found this: do you think its good?
There are situations that end users wish to create fake rocks with some degrees of structural functions. These include structures that can be sit on or walk on. Guidelines for creating fake rocks with some degrees of structural functions:

Create the core structure with lumbers (2x4's).
Staple cardboards over the wood structure.
Attach chicken wires to the structure and further refine the shape by adjusting the chicken wire layers.
Spray foam over the completed structure.
Refine and adjust the full expanded foam structure.
Protect the final structure with exterior or latex paint.

even with that step by step, my first question still is on? do i stuffed only with newspaper or with newspaper and foam and paint the foam? if yes, any high density foam you can suggest?

[malinghi]

The newspaper sounds like the weakest option for helping support the structure. The cardboard and foam sound better.

I'd make it with chickenwire, cardboard, and foam, but I don't have any expertise on this so I'm really just guessing. Whatever you do, if you finish with enough time to test it out and possibly make changes then you can afford to try different things.

[Odette]

hi guys
i have my wooden structure for my rock. im gonna had a back support. but i have a question: next step is to take chicken wire to form a shape of a rock. ive found a site in french that says to make the shape with the wire then stuff it with newspaper and then put stripe of plaster then paint it. heres my question, i gonna sit on it and im afraid the side of the structure will not be hard, so would it be better to stuff it with newspaper under the wire and add high density foam( that one that is in a can and expand) and let the foam expend so that i dont see the chicken wire and paint the foam?i think merman jesse did something like that i dont want to had too much weight too. thanks for the help!

i found this: do you think its good?
There are situations that end users wish to create fake rocks with some degrees of structural functions. These include structures that can be sit on or walk on. Guidelines for creating fake rocks with some degrees of structural functions:

Create the core structure with lumbers (2x4's).
Staple cardboards over the wood structure.
Attach chicken wires to the structure and further refine the shape by adjusting the chicken wire layers.
Spray foam over the completed structure.
Refine and adjust the full expanded foam structure.
Protect the final structure with exterior or latex paint.
even with that step by step, my first question still is on? do i stuffed only with newspaper or with newspaper and foam and paint the foam? if yes, any high density foam you can suggest?

i didnt stuff tho that seems like a good idea. putting foam on the wire mesh was difficult.you need like 10 cans. i need to post pics of mine soon.i should be working right now.any foam works.mine came with a straw attachment. dont use it.

[Mermaid Momo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ZFJwv6Ubk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ5De0472dQ
and here's another one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICf325LffeY
for a support, you could probably build it around a chair like so:
2357
the x in the picture is the seat part. to make it comfortable but still look like a rock, you could use expanding foam painted and cut to look like rock.
(you don't really see the chair it's inside the hollow rock. you could probably use a piece of plywood underneath it attached to the ends of the rock so it's all one piece but still hollow and light weight)

[meremily]

thanks a lot! :)

[meremily]

Hi
so im at the step of putting a primer on the foam
i want to use a paint in a spray can
what kind of paint should i use?

[malinghi]

I think it depends on what kind of foam you're using. I'd google the type of foam and check what paint you can use on it.

Another option is to buy some spray paint and test it on a separate piece of foam to see how well it bonds.

[meremily]

its insulating foam, brand is ''great stuff"

[malinghi]

How to Paint Over Great Stuff Expanding Foam: http://www.ehow.com/how_7691482_paint-great-stuff-expanding-foam.html

[meremily]

hi!!!!!!
ive done my rock!!! i loove it! im not finished yet! im putting plants, i ordered blue and purple plants, and will put seastar too! i m also putting sand patch!
what do you think?305430553056

[~Molly~]

soooo glad you posted this!!! it was one of my questions as well. thx!!!

[~Molly~]

oh yeah---how is sitting on this? any damage to tails?

[SweeteSiren]

That looks incredible! Great job! How heavy did it end up being?

[~Molly~]

i was thinking about a rock as well meremily...with a chair base. also wanted to take off an arm so it would look more loungy.
i did find this for you: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Fake-Rocks-for-Your-Pond
the person that suggested this site wrote this about it:
The way I have found that works best, is to take something the general size of what you are looking for (we made a fountain with a rock the size of a chair-ish next to it) and cover it in wire (you may want to wrap the object in a sheet so it doesn't get all dirty and can be reused when you are done). Then cover the chair, or whatever, in expanding foam (you can get it from a hardware store). It is strong enough to sit or stand on, but looks rock-like (textured). It may take you a day or so to do the whole project, due to drying time of the paint and the foam and such, but it's a fairly low work load to get it done...and its really entertainig to watch it expand! good luck!

a lightbulb just went off over my head-and i think i'm gonna do this: (less expense ??? i believe, easier to transport, & more comfy)
get a saucer chair and recover in pearlesant fabric, cover metal chair bits in whatever - plants, paint to look like coral/rock. think of sitting inside a pearl :)
i can always add a tall thin fake rock or other for backdrop.
wallyworld has 2 sizes.
$19 for smaller indoor chair.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Microsuede-Saucer-Chair-Pink/16451584?findingMethod=rr
and $39 for larger outdoor chair
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-York-Padded-Folding-Chair/17748314?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=17748314&sourceid=N/A&veh=cse

just brainstorming----

[meremily]

oh yeah---how is sitting on this? any damage to tails?

i havent tried it with a tail but all the rock is kinda of soft so im not afraid. also im putting a cushion for the bum and the back but not too stuffed cause for now its not soooo good to sit on it lol!

[meremily]

That looks incredible! Great job! How heavy did it end up being?

its not heavy at all! its the same thing as lifting a plastic chair!

[meremily]

i was thinking about a rock as well meremily...with a chair base. also wanted to take off an arm so it would look more loungy.
i did find this for you: http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Fake-Rocks-for-Your-Pond
the person that suggested this site wrote this about it:
The way I have found that works best, is to take something the general size of what you are looking for (we made a fountain with a rock the size of a chair-ish next to it) and cover it in wire (you may want to wrap the object in a sheet so it doesn't get all dirty and can be reused when you are done). Then cover the chair, or whatever, in expanding foam (you can get it from a hardware store). It is strong enough to sit or stand on, but looks rock-like (textured). It may take you a day or so to do the whole project, due to drying time of the paint and the foam and such, but it's a fairly low work load to get it done...and its really entertainig to watch it expand! good luck!

a lightbulb just went off over my head-and i think i'm gonna do this: (less expense ??? i believe, easier to transport, & more comfy)
get a saucer chair and recover in pearlesant fabric, cover metal chair bits in whatever - plants, paint to look like coral/rock. think of sitting inside a pearl :)
i can always add a tall thin fake rock or other for backdrop.
wallyworld has 2 sizes.
$19 for smaller indoor chair.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Microsuede-Saucer-Chair-Pink/16451584?findingMethod=rr
and $39 for larger outdoor chair
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-York-Padded-Folding-Chair/17748314?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=17748314&sourceid=N/A&veh=cse

just brainstorming----

thanks a lot molly!!! i have a chair inside the rock that was my base! and i coveved it with chicken wire too,

[Mermaid Saphira]

That looks really neat :)

[Mermaid Annariea]

wow. that rock turned out awesome!! :D

[Mermaid Lorelei]

Would you be able to explain how you made it? It looks awesome. :>

[Mermaid Annariea]

i agree with lorelei, i wanna know too :D maybe i can make one someday, haha.

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