Selkish's Ratchet Workshop

[Mermaid Clarity]

I'd like to start by saying this is all Wesley's fault. Followed by PearlieMae's. Yes. I'm calling you out. I want a hand-written apology, deposited in my locker, before 3 o'clock today along with $25 in Hot Topic bucks. Additionally, I want control over ALL of the girl's bathrooms from the east-bank locker to the second floor. And two trees in the quad.

Sorry, that kinda got away from me, there. What were we doing? Oh yeah, tailmaking.

So *ahem* inspired by Wesley and PearlieMae and other mers on their lovely tailmaking escapades, I suddenly woke up from a fever dream of sugarplums and seaweed to find my amazon account had somehow ordered Monster Clay ALL ON IT'S OWN! Whaaaaat? Nooo, whaaaa?

Anyway. I just got out of college like, a couple months ago. I don't do the whole fully independent human adult thing so I don't have the space to hold an entire leg mold and scale sheets and whatnot. So I've opted to do an individual scale method because I can put that s#!t in baggies and stuff when I need it out of the way (until the leg mold... we'll uhm... burn that bridge when we get to it.)

Frankly I'm hoping making this thread will keep me accountable rather than do the thing that New Years Resolutions do where you tell people you're going to stop small woodland elves because they're just way too high in calorie but then the act of telling people and them congratulating you was just so rewarding you feel like you already stopped eating small woodland elves and you never get around to doing it because TINY WOODLAND ELVES ARE SO TASTY.

http://mernetwork.com/index/attachment.php?attachmentid=35051&stc=1

Oh you thought I was talking about like... people.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Lol you're welcome. It's gonna be RAD


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[PearlieMae]

"I'd like to start by saying this is all Wesley's fault. Followed by PearlieMae's. Yes. I'm calling you out. I want a hand-written apology, deposited in my locker, before 3 o'clock today along with $25 in Hot Topic bucks. Additionally, I want control over ALL of the girl's bathrooms from the east-bank locker to the second floor. And two trees in the quad"

Rub a lamp!

You are making me unpack brain cells I haven't used in decades. Locker? Quad? HOT FREAKIN' TOPIC? Come on, you can dream bigger than that!

And if you take two jackets and those acidwashed jeans that are never coming back in style out of your closet, you can hang your tape dummy in there.

Fluke mold can go under your bed, but you're gonna have to clean there first, like your mom's been nagging you to do.

:rollover:

[Mermaid Clarity]

And if you take two jackets and those acidwashed jeans that are never coming back in style out of your closet, you can hang your tape dummy in there.

Fluke mold can go under your bed, but you're gonna have to clean there first, like your mom's been nagging you to do.

:rollover:

(also hi Pearlie, it occurs to me I've never actually talked to you and now I'm demanding retribution... :$ ) Anyway, I'll find space, though dust is an issue. It's good to know I'll probably be able to keep the legs in the closet.

Wow... that's a sentence I didn't think I'd ever write.

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Hahahaha! That whole exchange gave me an excellent laugh. :)

Good luck with the tail, I'll be keeping tabs!

(And I wonder if fevered somnambulism has anything to do with ordered monster clay.)

;)

[Mermaid Clarity]

So an ongoing issue I've been having with color schemes. As a historical costumer, I get REALLY nitpicky about accuracy. The problem here is... well, mermaids aren't real... Or at least, not to the point where I can be accurate to something for it. So I'm getting fussy about coloring on a different level. I want it to look "natural" with my skin tone (tannish with yellow undertones) but also stand out and look striking. I made a kind of template in Adobe Illustrator in the hopes of helping visualize. You can see a lot of my fickleness with fluke design too.

I'm going through a lot of color scheme ideas:

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like... a lot
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Liiiike... a lot

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(the reference pic was the inspiration to the first color scheme, I decided I probably didn't need so many colors)

Then I read Rescue Sirens: Search for the Atavist and thought Nim's tail would be awesome.
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Now I'm kinda liking a precious metals inspired tail. I don't wanna go full orange really so this would be gold based.
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Buuuut then I started loving that teal patina and playing with the idea of a metallic tail with a teal patina on the sides so I added rose gold. I'm hoping to make the patina glow in the dark too.

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I am having a little trouble visualizing the palette but I think this helps a bit. I want to do a darker bronze along the back and then to a brighter rose gold along the hips into a yellow/white gold on the tummy. This. Will. Change. What I do know is that I want to kind of avoid a very orange tail, they seem kinda common, and I'm trying to avoid a lot of blue as it tends to disappear in the ocean.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Hahahaha! That whole exchange gave me an excellent laugh. :)

Good luck with the tail, I'll be keeping tabs!

(And I wonder if fevered somnambulism has anything to do with ordered monster clay.)

;)

actually though, it might have more to do with the fierce determination that comes from a couple of glasses of wine...

[Dancing Fish]

OOhhhh. That teal/copper dress was my inspiration too. I already love your take on it. :) Welcome to the Individual Scale Tail Dark Side. I see you brought cookies!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Wow so much progress in one day! What are you thinking Selk? Oh yeah, I totally cheated, I've been working on this for like, a while as far as the planning stages. I didn't pull down the clay until yesterday though... so there's that.

I've been thinking about scale patterns as well, while I settle on a color scheme. I know I wanted to do something that was somewhere between "ooh fancy fantasy creature" and "yeah, that thing belongs in the water." So I turned to my good ol' buddy research. I'm not a fan of the super uniform, rounded edges that some other brands do. I've also found I wanted something a bit thicker and less detailed than FinFolk's scales or even Pearlie Mae's shell-scales (nothing against either of those it's just personal preference.) I was worried about my scales being a bit visually busy. In fact, I was noticing that I was thinking of scales as being very vertical but most fish have very horizontal scales:

http://mernetwork.com/index/attachment.php?attachmentid=35084&stc=1

that definitely modified my idea of how I was going to make my scales. I went to hang out with Mermaid Wesley a couple days ago as I kicked this idea around in my head. Using her rejects, I started fiddling with more ideas.

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Hrm... too pointy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCad0plD-jg)...

Eventually I actually took Wesley's advice and made a model out of paper. I think I like this scale shape though people keep saying it looks like a pinecone, which I'm not sure I'm happy about.

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Buuut I liked how it looked and I'm impatient HERE ARE SOME PICTURES NOW.

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first scale!


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I decided the scales were too pointy once I layered them over each other. I calmed down the ridge to make 'em less stripey.
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Oh wait look! I added a thingie for you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZqH2YzaM0

Also my cat just decided to walk all over everything so no I get to modify the scales to have less... kitten paws on them.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Yay! The more dull ridges do help de-stripe-ify it.


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[Theobromine]

I'm a little confused about what you mean by most fishes having horizontal vs. vertical scales...

[Sabrina the Selkie]

She means that scales tend to look wide instead of long.

[Mermaid Clarity]

I'm a little confused about what you mean by most fishes having horizontal vs. vertical scales...

When you look along a fish's body, the way you'd attach a human torso to the fish tail, their scales look more wide than long. most of the scales I was doodling and working with looked long rather than wide making the design look somewhat reptilian. Idk, it's just a preference for me.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Moving onto smaller scales because I couldn't sleep. Of course, that's not the case for some.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/0835f9c0f2402bcfa87110d3a44ef411.jpg

Anyway, how the smaller scales might fit with the larger ones.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/9248cd6b2ebb3d0908af5209b9147ecb.jpg


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[Ilyena]

Your scales kinda remind me of Placoid scales ^_^

[Luna Dreamtide]

Exciting progress! I love the fluke design of your first two templates!

[Theobromine]

Ok, I guess I was just confused by your wording, then.

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Maybe you were thinking of ganoid scales? They're not the most common scale type though (restricted to primitive fishes such as sturgeon, gar, paddlefish, bichirs, etc.) Cycloid and ctenoid scales are found on teleosts (higher-order bony fish) so they're the ones that I thiiink most people are familiar with. They overlap like shingles (see the pictures you posted above); pretty much all tailmakers who are going for a fishy look as opposed to some other type of animal are approximating these scales, but you're right, many people make them look far too rounded. Following that line of thought, something else to keep in mind is that the part of the scale that we actually see isn't the majority of the thing. Take a look at how the whole structure looks, including where it grows out from the skin. Should give you a better idea of why scales look the way they do (and why foam circles don't look convincing, imho).

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Ilyena's totally right btw, your clay scales do look like placoid scales (like dermal denticles on a shark).

[Mermaid Clarity]

Ok, I guess I was just confused by your wording, then.

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Maybe you were thinking of ganoid scales? They're not the most common scale type though (restricted to primitive fishes such as sturgeon, gar, paddlefish, bichirs, etc.) Cycloid and ctenoid scales are found on teleosts (higher-order bony fish) so they're the ones that I thiiink most people are familiar with. They overlap like shingles (see the pictures you posted above); pretty much all tailmakers who are going for a fishy look as opposed to some other type of animal are approximating these scales, but you're right, many people make them look far too rounded. Following that line of thought, something else to keep in mind is that the part of the scale that we actually see isn't the majority of the thing. Take a look at how the whole structure looks, including where it grows out from the skin. Should give you a better idea of why scales look the way they do (and why foam circles don't look convincing, imho).

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Ilyena's totally right btw, your clay scales do look like placoid scales (like dermal denticles on a shark).

Theobromine, thank you for putting all that out for me. <--- actually not sarcasm you put into words and pictures the issue I was having.

I may have been thinking of Placoid scales when I started designing mine too. My friend said they reminded her of Pike, so that makes some sense. I think the ridge was also an attempt to make that vague shield shape and give the scale some of the subtle texture we see as well (possible to be achieved through color but labor intensive.)

[Theobromine]

You're welcome! I was hoping that would be helpful. I'm a zoologist and an aquarist and I always think of fish biology in very technical terms and sometimes I forget that not everyone does :p so I thought I'd try to articulate it a little better. (I'm the kind of nerd who uses terms like teleost and caudal peduncle on a daily basis but has no idea why the Kardashians are famous. I had soooo many friends in high school...)

(Edit: also, when I first started hearing about Kardashians I though everyone was talking about Cardassians)

[Ashton]

http://mernetwork.com/index/attachment.php?attachmentid=35099&stc=1

[Mermaid Clarity]

You're welcome! I was hoping that would be helpful. I'm a zoologist and an aquarist and I always think of fish biology in very technical terms and sometimes I forget that not everyone does :p so I thought I'd try to articulate it a little better. (I'm the kind of nerd who uses terms like teleost and caudal peduncle on a daily basis but has no idea why the Kardashians are famous. I had soooo many friends in high school...)

(Edit: also, when I first started hearing about Kardashians I though everyone was talking about Cardassians)

#lifegoals right there. I considered going into marine science but then someone pulled me aside and was like "there are no jobs, go do something else." So I switched to graphic design. I *would* love to be as technical as possible when building this tail, except for the fact that my art-eye was like "That looks weird" when I did the original shield scales. This is possibly because the thickness of the scale made it look fakey and round. It's nice to know at least I kinda followed one real kind of scale... even if it's shark.


And no one knows why the Kardashians are famous, it's why they're famous.

[Theobromine]

#lifegoals right there. I considered going into marine science but then someone pulled me aside and was like "there are no jobs, go do something else."

Speaking as someone with a master's degree and no job....can confirm. :anger explode:

[Vrindavana Starfish]

#lifegoals right there. I considered going into marine science but then someone pulled me aside and was like "there are no jobs, go do something else." So I switched to graphic design.


Speaking as someone with a master's degree and no job....can confirm. :anger explode:

Yes to both. I started off as a marine biologist. Then ended up with an MA in Irish mythology with every intention of being a professor, and then realized I hated teaching. Now I'm a video editor and day trader.

Those scales are looking really cool. Can't wait to see how this turns out!

[Theobromine]

Yes to both. I started off as a marine biologist. Then ended up with an MA in Irish mythology with every intention of being a professor, and then realized I hated teaching. Now I'm a video editor and day trader.

The struggle is real. I loved both my degrees, but I still haven't found a single job that I've actually needed my master's degree for :P I spent a few years doing zookeeping/aquarist work, which is great, but in my case I also had bad luck with a string of sh!tty bosses and/or jobs in areas where I just wasn't happy living, then had some health issues blah blah after leaving those ended up just applying for an animal manager position at a local Petco just for the paycheck, had to leave my master's degree off my bloody resume even to get that. -_- But retail is not my bag so I ended up ragequitting and now I'm an artist :P The ironyyyyyy

Sorry to hijack your thread Selkish....um....if you need any advice on fish biology/anatomy/scientific accuracy and/or sculpting techniques feel free to ask.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Yes to both. I started off as a marine biologist. Then ended up with an MA in Irish mythology with every intention of being a professor, and then realized I hated teaching. Now I'm a video editor and day trader.

Those scales are looking really cool. Can't wait to see how this turns out!


Thanks <3 I feel like I'm wandering around kinda blindly but I'm obviously not because I have everyone here to help point me in the right direction.

And not hijacking. I feel like a lot of Mers wanted to do the marine science thing and were turned off in the end. It's just sort of nice to hear that I made a good choice by not going 100% into that particular profession... Not too sure about the choice to move into art from there (for me.)

[Mermaid Clarity]

So back to tail sculpting, here's a comparison of the two scale sizes and thicknesses. The smaller ones are significantly thicker.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/5c54873a23adf5faaaf5af87d4b8b1fb.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/0be77ae5e7a14788250ccbb54bf5f534.jpg

Also because I keep posting pics of her, here's my kitty again

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/73186fe09e8609e2c91b69f204f762e4.jpg


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[Theobromine]

Kitty!

Well, personally, I'd recommend not making your scales very thick. I'd try to thin them out a little and also keep all the sizes at an even thickness. If you make them too thick you run the risk of having your tail end up way too heavy and cumbersome. You can always add more silicone on the back of the sheet/inside of the tail, but if you cast them too thick to begin with you can't really slice them in half with a cheese knife if you know what I mean. Also, thinner scales are more realistic.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Welp, I've done 20 small scales and 20 big ones..... Now I'm not too sure what to do next.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/837b2aba1d04e10d2c722f684cae1de2.jpg

I don't know if I have the balls to try casting a mold next.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

Kitty!

Well, personally, I'd recommend not making your scales very thick. I'd try to thin them out a little and also keep all the sizes at an even thickness. If you make them too thick you run the risk of having your tail end up way too heavy and cumbersome. You can always add more silicone on the back of the sheet/inside of the tail, but if you cast them too thick to begin with you can't really slice them in half with a cheese knife if you know what I mean. Also, thinner scales are more realistic.

I thinned down the small scales. You were right, I can always paint more silicone on.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/579b17afeb930d821cafc3c6aeb66ce9.jpg

Confronting the smooth-on. Halp


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[Theobromine]

Ahahaha that was probably the same expression I had when I was first about to experiment with this stuff.

The absolute best advice I can give you is start small, test, PRACTICE before starting your main project. It definitely feels intimidating but if you make just a few small molds and do some little test castings first. It will give you a lot more confidence and you'll be able to figure out what works and what doesn't, which will ultimately make your tail project better. Plus if you mess up at first you won't have to worry about wasting a lot of material. Make a small mold with just a couple scales in it, cast a handful of them, and try fitting them together to see how they look and feel. I mean, if you've looked at my thread, you can see the improvement from where *I* started :P We all improve with practice, just don't be afraid to get started.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Doing a test mold. It's cold and late so I'm not sure if it'll cure well at all...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/0dc689e0ff9b26448e0c3d64456c87c9.jpg

But holy shit! I'm doing science.


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[Theobromine]

Is that a clear resin you're using? Apologies if you said it before and I missed it, I'm kinda sleep deprived. Anyhoo, it looks good!

[Theobromine]

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[Mermaid Clarity]

You guys. Science is kinda boring. Stupid 30 minute cure time

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/3cff77725b254e8be09218ff798e45ca.jpg


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[Mermaid Clarity]

I'm using smooth on 305 with a can of ease release 200


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[Mermaid Clarity]

Dangit, Matt Damon, you're so right. And hot. So right and hot.

As for waiting to cure...

http://mernetwork.com/index/attachment.php?attachmentid=35119&stc=1

[Mermaid Clarity]

Ooooooooooookay. So the mold seemed to work out without a hitch except:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/39671cacba0f235765dba2ccdfe48172.jpg

The EFFFFFF IS THIS TEXTURE? WILL LIBERAL APPLICATIONS OF SILICONE GET RID OF THIS? IT'S FROM THE DAMN BUBBLES I SAW AS THE MOLD WAS CURING GRRRRRRRRRRRR


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[Theobromine]

Actually, to me it looks like you may have just used too much mold release. How much did you spray on? Did you smooth it with a brush? The pattern of the indentations doesn't look like bubbles to me, but too much mold release (aka many tiny globs of grease) can definitely do that.

I haven't used that particular resin but if you look up the technical specs, it might give you some better ideas as well (i.e. moisture can cause bubbles in some resins). Anyway, at least you learned something! Aren't you glad you didn't come across that problem while molding a whole fluke?! SCIENCE IS AWESOME!!!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Lol, you're probably super right. I went a little heavy on the release. I popped some silicone into the molds to find out if it makes much of a difference in the end.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/a1aabe3c2d3a4aef1feb86fcc8f82947.jpg

I had some copper pigment and some pearly white I got while getting the mold materials. I figured it was a safe pigment to get considering all the colors I've been drawn to.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Process update on the test scales

https://vimeo.com/151354586


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[Mermaid Clarity]

Final update for tonight, I pulled the molds. The stupid lumps aren't workable but I knew that. Oh well. I'll try again tomorrow morning.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/11/747a0e363824e8cf2495424c8b618799.jpg


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[Mermaid Wesley]

But look! Silicone in the hand! Yay!


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[Ashton]

but the texture is kinda cool!
(if you need any help you know I live on the other side of the hill, I can help you)
<3

[Theobromine]

+10XP

[Mermaid Clarity]

I'm gonna go another round and see what comes of it before calling in cavalry (caviarlry?) I just poured a new mold and it looks less bubbly already and the curing is happening now. Sooooo fingers crossed. I'm watching Labyrinth while I wait :(


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I like the way you think, Ms. Bromine.

[PearlieMae]

Process update on the test scales

https://vimeo.com/151354586


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Dat face! You're killing me!

As for the bubbles in your resin mold, too much release/moisture. Although, that texture is pretty cool!

[Theobromine]

I'm listening to Labyrinth soundtrack :(

[Mermaid Clarity]

Considering whether I could do a tail inspired by that ballgown... white iridescent scales, lots of floofy fabric fins...

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Oop. Mold's done.

[Mermaid Clarity]

AUGH okay. I'm doing a round without any release.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160111/1c546da31244d4eddf1736c4d59c2ebc.jpg


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[Sherielle]

I love your thought process on your scales. I, too, like a more realistic look to the scales. The round scales are fine and most people use them because they are the quickest way to an end, but I have had the same thoughts about the shape of the scales like you do.
I can't wait to see more progress!

[Theobromine]

That tail idea is gorgeous. I've always wanted to try making that gown, but my sewing skills are about kindergarten-level.

As for mold release, I have some of the Mann ease release but I've found that I actually just prefer using Vaseline. It's cheap, easy to get, and you can apply it with a soft paintbrush. In fact, it's also a good method for smoothing your sculpts.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Thanks Sherielle I'm hoping it still reads as "fishy."


That tail idea is gorgeous. I've always wanted to try making that gown, but my sewing skills are about kindergarten-level.

As for mold release, I have some of the Mann ease release but I've found that I actually just prefer using Vaseline. It's cheap, easy to get, and you can apply it with a soft paintbrush. In fact, it's also a good method for smoothing your sculpts.

If this round is still stupid, I'll try vaseline. -sigh.-

[Adalira]

I love your tail idea, looks so romantic! :-)

[Mermaid Clarity]

I love your tail idea, looks so romantic! :-)

Heheh, which one?

[Adalira]

[QUOTE=Selkish;231856]Considering whether I could do a tail inspired by that ballgown... white iridescent scales, lots of floofy fabric fins...

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This one :-)

[Mermaid Clarity]

So I just got off the phone with Reynolds Advanced Materials. They basically said the bubbling shouldn't happen but that doesn't really stop it from happening so... not sure what to do with that information. They *did* suggest using an acrylic spray and letting that be a barrier between the clay and the resin. So I'm gonna throw more money at this and get acrylic before I succumb buying straight-up shell shock. The first and second were using Ease Release 200 and the third was vaseline.

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[Mermaid Wesley]

They suggested that to me too. It didn't work because the monster clay had too much moisture. But yours is not as bubbly as mine so I still have hope!


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[Mermaid Clarity]

It is most definitely the clay. I just pulled one with no release agent whatsoever and it was bubbly. Off to Home Despot for acrylic.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

Status update:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N13WI3oVda8

[Mermaid Coralia]

Laughing so hard at your face while staring down the box. I might have scared my fat cat away. I frickin love where you're going with your scales. I agree on the round scale thing, I think it looks almost cartoonish to have them so little and perfectly round. I wanna try tackling this project myself soon, and that scale chart is super helpful. I can't wait to see where this goes.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Laughing so hard at your face while staring down the box. I might have scared my fat cat away. I frickin love where you're going with your scales. I agree on the round scale thing, I think it looks almost cartoonish to have them so little and perfectly round. I wanna try tackling this project myself soon, and that scale chart is super helpful. I can't wait to see where this goes.

Thanks :3 I deal with THIS EFFING MESS OF A PROJECT by trying to laugh about it. Or else I'd murder things.

[Mermaid Clarity]

An accurate representation of me at the moment:



https://youtu.be/iDmgmujuEG0?t=1m5s

[Theobromine]

Aww sweetie, this is only just the beginning ;)

[Mermaid Clarity]

Getting frustrated. I have a scale drying with a couple layers of acrylic but in the meantime here are my first two tests with a thin layer first:

I forgot to put ease release on the first one

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160111/695ed5ef875a0ac01ad611cf789d9d86.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160111/29f2f39337a9b1c9d511ab1604313ca1.jpg


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[Theobromine]

I guess this is why I don't use resin :-/

[Mermaid Clarity]

I guess this is why I don't use resin :-/

what do you use instead?

[Theobromine]

Urethane rubber. I've talked about it in a few different threads here and there. If you search my name and "urethane" you should be able to find them pretty easily.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Urethane rubber. I've talked about it in a few different threads here and there. If you search my name and "urethane" you should be able to find them pretty easily.

Ahh, okay. Sorry. I guess I missed it. that might be my next attempt after this one.

[Mermaid Clarity]

O FRABJOUS DAY! A BUBBLE FREE MOLD.

I found Fimo in my craft supplies (glow in the dark flavor) so I made a new scale and while there are bubbles on the outside of the negative slab, the actual negative looks clear!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160112/62a26c9c27f8908ecaf19bfb7e576954.jpg


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[Sabrina the Selkie]

Calloo callay she chortled in her joy!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Okay so I have silicone in the smooth molds. Getting white glow clay out of a white mold is kinda frustrating. I had to sit in my dark bathroom scraping it out because I don't have a black light and its the darkest room in the house. I've decided to make the most of the situation and my materials and sculpt more scales out of my Fimo and cast one more large scale with said Fimo cast. I can supliment my new scales with the silicone ones cast while I sculpt. That might cut my time down. I'll get a new resin for the fuke and burn that bridge when I get to it. -sigh-

At least I have some time to fret about my colors again.

Also here are all my rejects:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160112/5b142ac6e099c5351067284e0e985c2a.jpg


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[Ilyena]

Sorry if I didn't see but how about a thin layer of resin first? then just keep putting more layers, a thin layer first doesn't heat up as much as a thick layer. Ignore me if I missed it :P

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Fun. Good luck!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Sorry if I didn't see but how about a thin layer of resin first? then just keep putting more layers, a thin layer first doesn't heat up as much as a thick layer. Ignore me if I missed it :P


I talked briefly to the company that sold me the stuff, they didn't think it would work but I might try it anyway. It seems like a good shot.

[Mermaid Wesley]

I knew you could do it!


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[Mermaid Clarity]

I ordered my pigments. Everyone I've talked to has reaffirmed my decision to go with precious metal tail. I look good in warm colors and it'll go with everything :D

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[Sabrina the Selkie]

Nice! !

[Mermaid Clarity]

I tried the method suggested by a few people but most recently by Ilyena and spread a thin layer of resin over the positive and let it dry, poking it and brushing it to ensure no bubbles formed/disperse the oil that was released by the clay. The resultant mold was comparable to the Fimo molds which is good because maybe that means I don't have to remake my scales!!!

So now there's pearl-pigmented silicone in the "successful" molds. We'll see what we get.

http://mernetwork.com/index/attachment.php?attachmentid=35141&stc=1

I hate waiting for things.

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Have fuuun~~~ ♥

[PearlieMae]

Grasshopper, you are going to have to learn patience. :meditation:

Have you considered Plastilina clay? It's oil based, so no moisture and no need for mold release. And it's softer and easier to sculpt...just make sure it's sulphur-free. It's what I use. Unlike Theobromine, I prefer hard resin molds, but she's having great success with urethane rubber molds.

[Ashton]

I will see you Friday and we can figure this out, as I said, I will bring some of the stuff I used and some of my molds to show you <3
We can do it together <3 <3

[Mermaid Clarity]

Well, in the spirit of getting things done, I did test the three semi successful molds with silicone. They produce rather dull scales but I know this is solved with a small coat of silicone. I don't know if another mold will make shinier scales than that. I'm not satisfied but we're getting closer.

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[Ashton]

Lookin' goood!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Grasshopper, you are going to have to learn patience. :meditation:

Have you considered Plastilina clay? It's oil based, so no moisture and no need for mold release. And it's softer and easier to sculpt...just make sure it's sulphur-free. It's what I use. Unlike Theobromine, I prefer hard resin molds, but she's having great success with urethane rubber molds.

My hesitation with plastilina is that I think the oil in the monster clay is the problem. It's being drawn out by the heat from the curing and pooling to make those little pores.


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[Mermaid Coralia]

I think you're my spirit animal because I totally hate waiting for that stuff to dry too. I usually put it down and try to do something else. Or usually by the time it's done it's bedtime anyway so I get to sleep on it.:p

[Mermaid Clarity]

I think you're my spirit animal because I totally hate waiting for that stuff to dry too. I usually put it down and try to do something else. Or usually by the time it's done it's bedtime anyway so I get to sleep on it.:p

"I think you're my spirit animal?"

"I think you're my spirit animal"

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I'm so sorry. :D


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[Mermaid Mystery]

LMAO

[Mermaid Wesley]

Ah Clara


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[Theobromine]

I second Pearlie's suggestion. I love Prima Plastilina clay. I've been using both that and Monster clay and I prefer the Plastilina. It is much softer and easier to smooth. And while it's an oil based clay as well, all oil-based clays are not the same. Monster clay is actually a lot waxier. Perhaps it's the wax that's causing the issue? I know that while you can heat and melt it, if it gets TOO hot (aka don't blast it with a heat gun, roffle mayo) the wax can separate out and pool on the surface.
Plastilina ftw.

[Mermaid Clarity]

That'd do it. I'm still hoping for solutions that don't mean buying more stuff.


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[Ashton]

HAHAH!

[Mermaid Clarity]

So I'm not sure what to do you know, I kind of have a method of moldmaking that works with my old clay scales. Unfortunately, I still don't think it's quite perfect enough and if I'm going to do this I am kind of demanding perfection of myself. I have layered a little bit of silicone mixed with a small amount of pearl pigment (soft iridescent blue shimmer) and I'm hoping it shinines up the scales and gets rid of all the unwanted texture.

In other news the blacklight I ordered in order to see the glowing pigments that I'm using has come in and I've been playing with that. Since the Fimo I have glows, I have been messing around with that all night.

Here is a bird skull I made which is the original reason I even have the glowing Fimo in the first place.

https://vimeo.com/151739045

Also, my peek a boo high lights glow too.

https://vimeo.com/151739263

I love this little blacklight though... I haven't looked at anything that might ruin that sentiment yet.


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[Mermaid Coralia]

Lol blacklights are so much fun to play with! But also kinda scary,always hoping you don't find something gross

[Mermaid Clarity]

Still at a loss for what to do, I tossed some leftover pearl silicone. I used varying sizes thicknesses of coating I don't think the pearl is the best coating choice but I feel better about my texture problems. It may be time to start the big mold... https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160115/5f8b0e270e61cf81e95d598866e3fdd2.jpg


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[PearlieMae]

While Theobromine might beg to differ, I think you are getting bogged down in minutiae. You're going to have thousands of these, all melded together to make a cohesive whole. Just make the scales as good as they need to be. If you want them to come out of the mold shinier, you're going to have to coat the inside of your mold with something like a Krylon gloss spray paint. I painted the inside of a test mold with nail polish and the scales came out very glossy.

Monster clay holds moisture more than plastilina, and it's a bitch to work with. I've seen more molds ruined by Monster clay, all full of bubbles from the water content...as you are discovering.

[Theobromine]

^^ExcuuuUUUuuuUUUuuUUuuuuse me?!

[PearlieMae]

I was referring to your ten billion, tiny, absolutely perfect, wonderfully round, gorgeous, obsessive scales, darling! You know I love ya! :mermaid kiss:

[Theobromine]

I'm just chuckling to myself over here. Do I have a reputation now or something? Am I too anal about everything?...

[Sabrina the Selkie]

We all love you for it, Theobromine! It gives us something to oggle over!

[Theobromine]

And/or laugh at me about!

[Sabrina the Selkie]

You give us all a higher standard to try and hold ourselves to.

[Mermaid Clarity]

slash make us cry in the corner because we will never attain your perfection!

No seriously Theo, we love the crap out of you AND NEVER FORGET IT.

[Mermaid Clarity]

While Theobromine might beg to differ, I think you are getting bogged down in minutiae. You're going to have thousands of these, all melded together to make a cohesive whole. Just make the scales as good as they need to be. If you want them to come out of the mold shinier, you're going to have to coat the inside of your mold with something like a Krylon gloss spray paint. I painted the inside of a test mold with nail polish and the scales came out very glossy.

I'm going to definitely remember the glossy tip but then I realized that I'm making a metal inspired tail and real metal, especially used metal isn't as shiny as my anal retentiveness is causing. I'm going to move forward with my scales... As soon as I finish my distraction project:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160115/b21b40f498fb94cb09d27e64877817d6.jpg

Inspired by Ashton and Merbellas I'm making some baroque scrollwork details for a top.


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[Theobromine]

<3

What pigments/colors are you using to get the metallic effect you're going for? You may have already specified but I am extremely senile or insane or something and forgot. Just wondering, cuz I use a lot of Pearl Ex and they have a bunch of really nice shades of gold, and I also just started playing around with their interference pigments which are ridiculously shimmery. You can mix them with other colors as well, to get some interesting effects. If that helps. (Also, probably why my own tail is taking so flippin' long, cuz I keep finding cool new colors or combinations and going "let's see what happens if I do THIS." Experimentation good, driving self nuts...maybe not so good?)

[Mermaid Clarity]

I ended up getting about 8 pigments including a glow and "highlight" from TKB Trading. The highlight is an interference that shimmers blue so that'll be good for an "all over" color when I seal stuff. Otherwise, the pigments are just micas from TKB. I know myself and I know that I'll ether love the crap out of my gold or keep buying pigments until I have TKB's entire gold catalog. I'm gonna literally be a gold-fish. muahahahhahahaahahahahahahahah

ahem.

[Merman Sean]

Hahaha you all are cracking me up. I love the idea of the scales, it’s something I am thinking about a lot and as soon as I am done with my building project, I am going to start on the scales as well.


I am in 2 minds if I would make a dragon tail or an armour tail.


The colours you have are very nice and it represents metals very well. The idea I have was to use a 100% copper pipe and grind it to get the copper filings and use that for the sparkle in the base of the scale. I have to treat the copper filings first before I use it in the scales. Some time ago i tried iron filings but it did not work very well, it look nice but it started to rust in the mould , after a while it looked horrendous lol.


The colour’s reminds me sunstones and moonstones.
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I was thinking I am not going to use 100% silicone on the scales and more of a polypropylene or carbon graphite look alike. I have to build a base in the silicone shell with mesh so that the scales can move while swimming. I think I have to do it because the scales are semi hard. The scale I want to use is this 1
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and I can maybe use glow in the dark for the rings, but that’s going take some testing to get it right.


Well done so far and I am very excited to see how it’s going to look.

[KaetiIngram]

If you want shinier scales, Monster Makers sells a high gloss flexible top coat. I was just looking at it last night, it's about $15 for a bottle to cover a whole tail. You could just use that after you've finished the whole thing. 😊

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[PearlieMae]

Hahaha you all are cracking me up. I love the idea of the scales, it’s something I am thinking about a lot and as soon as I am done with my building project, I am going to start on the scales as well.


I am in 2 minds if I would make a dragon tail or an armour tail.


The colours you have are very nice and it represents metals very well. The idea I have was to use a 100% copper pipe and grind it to get the copper filings and use that for the sparkle in the base of the scale. I have to treat the copper filings first before I use it in the scales. Some time ago i tried iron filings but it did not work very well, it look nice but it started to rust in the mould , after a while it looked horrendous lol.


The colour’s reminds me sunstones and moonstones.
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I was thinking I am not going to use 100% silicone on the scales and more of a polypropylene or carbon graphite look alike. I have to build a base in the silicone shell with mesh so that the scales can move while swimming. I think I have to do it because the scales are semi hard. The scale I want to use is this 1
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and I can maybe use glow in the dark for the rings, but that’s going take some testing to get it right.


Well done so far and I am very excited to see how it’s going to look.

I admire your willingness to go so far to make a tail as to grind actual copper for your scales. However, it really isn't necessary to go that far. There are plenty of lightweight mica-based pigments that will give you the same result, for far less money and effort, not to mention the added weight of a conductive metal in your tail.

Pearl Ex Sparkle Copper: (The mica is Aluminium silicate)
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Hard scales, like sequins, could be attached to your tail base either by sewing them on, or gluing the top part of each scale into place. Personally, I trust sewing them into place, but it's a matter of preference, if you have the right kind of adhesive.

[Merman Sean]

Ahh thanks for the info you all, it's awesome idees, i can't wait to start on it.

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[Mermaid Clarity]

My micas are supposed to come today, I'M SUPER EXCITED. I REALLY want to see what the metallics look like in the silicone. I'm going to do the first mold today using the thin layer of resin method and see what happens. AUUHG I WANT MY PIGMENTS NOW.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Pigments here! I'm making my larger mold now!

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[Mermaid Coralia]

Oooooooh Boy!

[Adalira]

Good luck! Can't wait to see more progress pics :-)

[Mermaid Clarity]

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Do you see the pocks all over the effing scales. I'm pretty sure that's the ease release. I'm out of smooth on too. Fuck


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[Hollydell]

Ohh no! sucks that its not working out!

Try to take a breath though. seems like your trying to rush it and that will only make things worse.

you will get it to work :)

[Mermaid Coralia]

I'd try switching clays, maybe?

[Mermaid Clarity]

So last night Ashton and Wesley came over to "help" and by help I mean CHAOS. But Ashton brought expertise in the form of how to work with the new cheap resin I bought from Michaels to work with the Fimo scales.

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Wesley came with expertise and moral support.

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Like I said, chaos.

Anyway, we tested the new pigments and made a new resin mold.

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Cleeeeaaarrr

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So many tests.

So apparently I get by with a little help from my friends. That's nice.


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[Merman Sean]

Ahh thats so sweet of Ashton and Wesley to help, thay say thats what friends are for.

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[Mermaid Clarity]

So let's talk scales for a second.

I made 12 scales using one of my stupid scale molds (except for my untampered scales) 4 styles and 3 colors. I will start blending colors, I think to achieve some different colors but I'm very happy with the gold at least.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160116/b168555ae1178b463a16345139b7fc52.jpg

This bottom row is just straight silicone mixed with one pigment. I'm not super fond of the "Nosy Be Chamaleon" on the far left which is the kinda reddish color. I was hoping it would be more dark brown/bronze. It does have some sweet blue sparks in it that you can't see without a gloss over it. (Which is what I'm trying next)

The middle was "Echo" and was supposed to be a champagne and is more like a very yellow skin color with a blue sheen.. I don't think I'll use it straight on its own.

The right is "Forged Gold" I like it. I might like it a little yellow/lighter. But I know it graduates nicely from the copper. Mixing won't hurt it.

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This is the pass with blue "hilite"

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And "gold sparks!"

Finally I did a pass with an attempt at the green patina effect. The patina needs some more experimenting and should be so much more pigmented. It does glow kinda though.


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[Theobromine]

Can I just say I love you for using Nosy Be chams as an inspiration. As a fellow chameleon-inspired mer, I approve.

[Ashton]

Here at Ashton's ratchet art studio we are cheap and everything is saved and can be used as a tool later!


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[Sabrina the Selkie]

Awesome!

[Mermaid Wesley]

Yay!! I'm glad the hilight shows up a little. The patina scales have SOMETHING going on so SUCCESS


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[Mermaid Clarity]

but the something isn't enough. I NEED MOAR.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Lol


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[Ashton]

we can always make more! thats why we hoard supplies- like cups and shit brushes from the DOLLAR TREEEEEE! woot woot

[Aysun_the_Mermaid]

but the something isn't enough. I NEED MOAR.
Like Ariel?

I want moooooooooooooore

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[Adalira]

It may have been chaos but it sure looks like a lot of fun as well! :-)

[Mermaid Coralia]

Looks like you girls had fun! I wanna see MOAR SCALES

[Ashton]

How did the molds turn out?

[Merman Sean]

Lol yeah i wanted to ask the same thing. I hope all is well ...

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[Mermaid_Sarina]

I love your scales Selkish!! I hope it's started to work out for you :)

[Mermaid Clarity]

I'm cleaning out the mold right now. I got distracted yesterday because of an event. I kinda wish I'd done a full scale sheet because this resin takes so long to cure.

[Ashton]

Your tail will look so cool when it is done, and since you are starting now you will for sure have it by summer time.

[Theobromine]

That's what *I* thought, a year ago....

[PearlieMae]

Your tail will look so cool when it is done, and since you are starting now you will for sure have it by summer time.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(Sorry, Selkish...that just struck me funny. I wish you all the best in the completion of your tail!)

[Mermaid Clarity]

I'm diligent! I might be able to do this....?

The mold Ashton and Wesley helped me make came out pretty nice. I just mixed some new scales to see if I could clear more of the Fimo and get the colors I wanted from my pigments.

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Now THESE are the molten metal scales I was hoping for. The gold looked yellower with the addition of the gold sparks I bought for the slime coat. The copper on the far right have hints of the blue highlight I also used for a slime coat but you can barely see it. No matter really. I do like the effect still. On the far left is a pigment that actually was my first tail color inspiration.


SIDETRACKED: This month's Ipsy bag gave me a pot of eyeshadow that reminded me of an eyeshadow I had years ago, the first one I bought when I started learning makeup. It was Too Faced's "Label Whore". I lost that pot but never forgot that coppery burgundy that flashed blue in the light. I recently bought a replacement (urban decays "Lounge") . Then, Ipsy sent me a pot of Marsk's "Mudcake" and since the Nosy Be Chamaleon was coming out much too rosy, I figured, if I have the pigment, I can use it.

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Additionally, I was able to counteract a lot of that rosiness with the Dublin green pigment I had bought for the patina scales. So now I have the more true to pot coppery brown with blue sparks. So now, fingers crossed to see how this turns out!!!


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[Mermaid Wesley]

You can have it done by summer if you work almost every day. I won't lie I'll be a bit salty if you finish that fast though. >.>


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[Mermaid Clarity]

You can have it done by summer if you work almost every day. I won't lie I'll be a bit salty if you finish that fast though. >.>


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GOOD THING YOU'RE A MERMAID THEN, WESLEY BECAUSE GET READY TO BE SALTY. #determinedasfuck

[Mermaid Wesley]

GOOD THING YOU'RE A MERMAID THEN, WESLEY BECAUSE GET READY TO BE SALTY. #determinedasfuck

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


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[PearlieMae]

:thumbs-up::hail:

:cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleade r::cheerleader:

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Good luck!!!

[Ashton]

It is possible, I started in February and was done by summer. You do have to work everyday and pull multiple times a day. Again, it's possible; a lot of work; but possible.


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[Dancing Fish]

I'm diligent! I might be able to do this....?

IT CAN BE DONE!! (Though it helped that I had the entire month of May free of responsibilities like work/childcare...so...uh....)

Hey! Your scales are looking great! And this thread is seriously funny!

[Mermaid Clarity]

IT CAN BE DONE!! (Though it helped that I had the entire month of May free of responsibilities like work/childcare...so...uh....)

Hey! Your scales are looking great! And this thread is seriously funny!

Thanks :D humor is how I cope with like, everything. I'm actually shit in an emotional crisis because of it.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

So now that I've been back at work I've got less time to work but a little more time to daydream. I started doodling some ideas for tops inspired by the centaurettes from Fantasia.

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Something about the open back looks so much more "other worldly" than the standard bra trappings to me. Simply replace flowers with shells n'stuff. Also the centaurettes used birds and stuff for their outfits so I feel like using sea stars is like, a spiritual sibling to that.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160120/d74b09c4839ed01a4180af60bb93035d.jpg

I'm thinking maybe using those stick-on bras you can get as a base/mold and then using silicone starfish and other silicone pieces for additional support. I'm trying to figure out what to do for the garland piece. It's not like long garland-like species of seaweed don't exist. Suggestions would be nice.


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[Luna Dreamtide]

I love your ideas for the top! Also your sketches are lovely.

[JustCOS]

My only concern with stick on bras is that you use water to remove them. Unless you're planning on using a waterproof body safe glue, or use something skintone to wrap around the whole way, the second those babies get wet they'll just slide off

[Mermaid Clarity]

My only concern with stick on bras is that you use water to remove them. Unless you're planning on using a waterproof body safe glue, or use something skintone to wrap around the whole way, the second those babies get wet they'll just slide off

Huh, I did not know that about sticky bras... back to the drawing board I guess... or spirit gum?

[Mermaid Clarity]

What is that? More scales?

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Not all of these are usable but y'know, they're looking right.


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[JustCOS]

Yeah, I wear them for conventions sometimes, and by the end of the day just sweat alone makes them come off (I usually bodytape them to the outfit I'm wearing so everything holds itself together). Those scales are looking pretty, though. Very natural!

[Mermaid Mystery]

they remind me of some of the scales on a bearded dragon's back. I spend a lot of time looking at lizards.

[Ilyena]

Spirit gum comes off in water :(. Try Pros-aide Adhesive, I mixed that with paint to see if i could make a better body paint and it took several hours of scrubbing, 3 showers and even 2 days wearing jeans before it came off, but that's what you get when you don't have the remover stuff.

[Mermaid Clarity]

What about shit tons of waterproof eyelash glue?


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[Ashton]

Depends on the brand, and some eyelash glue [like all things] doesn't really do what it says it should.
I say test it.
I have had some wig glue in the past that had this 'amazing ability' of not coming off when remover is applied or in the shower... after like 2 days and like 6+ showers later it came off in chunks. But it was super weave glue from the hair place on Torrance/PCH.. Because when it comes to cosplay; I need 'dem wigs to stay on my head.

[Mermaid Wesley]

If not for underwater those would still be beautiful as a dry shoot or something


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[AquaStella]

Beautiful scales Selkish. Really loving the color scheme and your positivism!! You got this!

[Adalira]

Those scales look great and the colors looks great together as well :-)

[Mermaid Clarity]

Totally distracted at work thinking about my tail, I came across this:

https://www.vat19.com/item/precious-metals-putty

I forsee myself getting a lot of metallic-colored things in my future, just because they remind me of my tail...

[Mermaid Clarity]

http://solarcolordust.com/products/copy-of-ultra-thermal-dust-black-to-blue-grey-86f-e0f4e7f7-3239-46cb-845b-694515f09801

I'm also looking at this stuff: it's cold activated which means I could achieve my dream of being one of those barbies that change color underwater. I was thinking, if I mixed this in with a little bit of my glow/blue pigment, I could have rust stains that go from a bright turquoise to a royal blue. Or something. I dunno, silicone might insulate it too much.

Here's a video of the pigments doing their thing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaGsXFd4yB4

[WaterDragon]

I have some of those in my cart and have been waiting for payday to order them.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Maybe a top if the patina isn't enough? I wanna use that stuff for something too lol


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[KaetiIngram]

Omg I REALLY hope you find a way to use that solar changing dust because I've been wanting to see somebody use it on a tail for EVER! It's so damn cool.

[Ashton]

That reminds me of those spoons from the cereal box that changed color when you "added milk"

[Luna Dreamtide]

That is so cool! I so want to do that now!

[PearlieMae]

Ooooh! Loving that pigment! I hope it's silicone-compatible...just ordered up a batch! Thanks! :mermaid kiss:

[Luna Dreamtide]

Ooooh! Loving that pigment! I hope it's silicone-compatible...just ordered up a batch! Thanks! :mermaid kiss:
Ooh awesome! Let us know how it goes!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Ooooh! Loving that pigment! I hope it's silicone-compatible...just ordered up a batch! Thanks! :mermaid kiss:

Yes! Please tell us!!!!

I got another shipment of pigments and then Wesley was SUPER kind and brought me her leftover pigments as well and honestly... I should film myself rolling in it. That's basically how I feel about it.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160123/c3bcf33b528bb7b87a3fa7f4077aabeb.jpg

I also got a pot of aqua glow pigment too. This way the pigment won't dilute the color of my patina and I can probably add the white glow to the tummy scales too. MAXIMUM GLOW PAYOFF.

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Also I got holo glitter. Why? I don't know. But look at it.

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SILVER

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HOLO

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GLITTER. (But my phone won't photograph the rainbow unicorn majesty)




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[Adalira]

This is so exciting! Would love to see the glow on your tail and see how it looks!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Used the new pigments today with some dragonskin fast. GUYS. GET DRAGONSKIN FAST ONCE YOU'VE GOT YOUR PIGMENT GAME DOWN. IT'S THE BEST.

I also played with laying gold leaf down into the scales under a layer of clear. It came out lovely but the silicone doesn't stick to it well so I'll have to be careful with how I use it.

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Laid down more copper and some patina tests.

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Oh my god this gold leaf on gold is my dream.

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SUCCESS

Also I threw a bunch of spare pigment into one scale and it looked pretty great.

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[PearlieMae]

Use gold leaf sparingly, it will cause your silicone to separate. It's thin, but it's still a piece of sheet metal.

They look nice! Save some of the slower cure silicone for attaching your scales, though. :mermaid kiss:

[Luna Dreamtide]

I love the way the patina scales look - it's really a great idea! The leftover pigment scale looks pretty awesome too!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Use gold leaf sparingly, it will cause your silicone to separate. It's thin, but it's still a piece of sheet metal.

They look nice! Save some of the slower cure silicone for attaching your scales, though. :mermaid kiss:

Yes, I noticed the separation as I was pulling the scale out of the mold. It's fine though because I think I like the flakey look a bit more. The leftover scale is the one that's REALLY falling apart.


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[Mermaid Wesley]

Lovely!


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[Adalira]

That looks really nice :-)

[Ashton]

I am glad the mold came out well-
(you're welcome:p)

[Mermaid Clarity]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160125/c551aea16cdba2ec2fec6600eeb176d9.jpg

Oh my goodness, have you taken the time to learn about our Lord and Savior dragonskin fast?

(I'm so sorry if I offended any Utah mermaids just now)

I just had a very efficient afternoon producing scales. I love that Dragon skin fast cures so quickly. In fact, I was thinking about the fact that it cures so quickly I don't have the time to dawdle between molds. In a perfect world I would still have Dragon skin slow to use during the weekdays I have work so I can pour and cure while I'm away and Dragon skin fast for the days that I don't work and can devote the most amount of time to making scales.

Anyway the fast cure time was good because I'm still experimenting somewhat with colors now that I have a gold that I like. I'm also trying to get the colors to gradate nicely between such a rosy copper and a yellow gold.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160125/8d578858d58bc871f06f92ccd2d25ebd.jpg

I discovered what gave my soft peachy rose gold it's color just in time to realize it wouldn't blend as nicely as I thought. Oh well, I've discovered how to make it more saturated.

In other good news, I got a nicer patina set done (as you can see from before.)

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So many excite.




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[Theobromine]

Pro tip: use a heat gun, it makes regular dragonskin cure in a fraction of the time! (That's what I do when I need something to cure fast. I can't use the fast-cure silicone because many of my molds are too intricate and I have to use a toothpick to work the silicone into some of the really thin areas so I need it to NOT cure too fast in that case.)

[Luna Dreamtide]

Selkish I love your collection of metallic scales - This is going to be a really cool tail!


Pro tip: use a heat gun, it makes regular dragonskin cure in a fraction of the time! (That's what I do when I need something to cure fast. I can't use the fast-cure silicone because many of my molds are too intricate and I have to use a toothpick to work the silicone into some of the really thin areas so I need it to NOT cure too fast in that case.)
So the longer the cute time the better for intricate work Theobromine? I've found an Australia producer of silicone and am not sure what the cure time is on it yet but I hope it'll be long enough...

[swimmingsammi95]

I use a blow dryer to speed mine up :D also outside in the sun on a warm day makes it cure almost instantly

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[Mermaid Clarity]

So perhaps it's the come down from the triumph of getting the gradient done or perhaps it's the fact that they gave us 2 free carafes of soju at dinner tonight but I'm suddenly daunted by the idea that I HAVE TO MAKE SO MANY SCALES. I don't even know what color I should start with. And SO MANY. SO MANY SCALES. WHAT DO!?


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[Mermaid Kate Silverfin]

Don't worry! It seems super daunting, especially when you think you have enough and start pinning (and of course there isn't nearly enough of them)! What I found worked for me is make a gradient of scales that I was happy with (about a batch of each colour), noting down what colours were mixed. Once you have the colours all planned out, then you just need to make more! Steady does it!

[Mermaid Wesley]

start front GO

[Ashton]

Just be careful not to get anxiety over the scale pulling...
I did and it was awful, I was like "if I don't get at least 5 pulls today I will never complete this tail AAHHHHGHGHGHASDFJOasdfk!" *insert clip of a muppet wiggling their arms about*

[Ashton]

I just got your text like right now.... like 8am the NEXT DAY... my phone is a POS... I am going to the apple store tomorrow... please dont think that I ditched you :doh:

[Adalira]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160125/c551aea16cdba2ec2fec6600eeb176d9.jpg

Oh my goodness, have you taken the time to learn about our Lord and Savior dragonskin fast?

(I'm so sorry if I offended any Utah mermaids just now)

I just had a very efficient afternoon producing scales. I love that Dragon skin fast cures so quickly. In fact, I was thinking about the fact that it cures so quickly I don't have the time to dawdle between molds. In a perfect world I would still have Dragon skin slow to use during the weekdays I have work so I can pour and cure while I'm away and Dragon skin fast for the days that I don't work and can devote the most amount of time to making scales.

Anyway the fast cure time was good because I'm still experimenting somewhat with colors now that I have a gold that I like. I'm also trying to get the colors to gradate nicely between such a rosy copper and a yellow gold.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160125/8d578858d58bc871f06f92ccd2d25ebd.jpg

I discovered what gave my soft peachy rose gold it's color just in time to realize it wouldn't blend as nicely as I thought. Oh well, I've discovered how to make it more saturated.

In other good news, I got a nicer patina set done (as you can see from before.)

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160125/b713d82b52ffe5e15959a25c79ac9e05.jpg

So many excite.




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They actually glow in the dark! Yay! It looks awesome!

[PearlieMae]

I use a desk lamp with a 100 watt bulb to cure my scales faster I stack my scale molds in plastic trays so they don't stick together.

[Dancing Fish]

OOh, I love the patina scales. This is a great color scheme so far. Lovely!

[Vrindavana Starfish]

I love the petina scales! This is going to be beautiful!

[Mermaid Clarity]

Pro tip: use a heat gun, it makes regular dragonskin cure in a fraction of the time! (That's what I do when I need something to cure fast. I can't use the fast-cure silicone because many of my molds are too intricate and I have to use a toothpick to work the silicone into some of the really thin areas so I need it to NOT cure too fast in that case.)

I think i'd like a slower cure for some things but in testing colors and pulling MASSIVE amounts of scales, fast is nice. I have a heat gun but I sometimes just don't need it unless I know my house is just particularly cold. Also, too much heat makes my resin molds act funny. When I get to more interesting things I might go medium or slow again.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Slowly getting over my anxiety by making lists of scales to pull and laying out gradients to imagine how the scales might look. I have new champagne ones for the upper stomach and lots of bright gold scales.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160126/50fb62a73ecc8b1a05b9127d3afab167.jpg

Also, probably the best part of this whole affair? Gratuitous silicone porn:

https://vimeo.com/153074435

https://vimeo.com/153074553





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[Reef Fish]

Beautiful :)

[Luna Dreamtide]

Pretty!

[Ashton]

Keep up the good work!
Have you made a body double for them yet?

[Adalira]

Hahaha, those video's are awesome!
I love the gold color by the way :-)

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Gorgeous

[Mermaid Clarity]

Thanks guys!


Keep up the good work!
Have you made a body double for them yet?

I haven't made a double yet. I'm hoping to do one this weekend.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

Sidebar: I don't know if I shared the necklace that kinda helped me with this color scheme when I started. If you've ever heard of Disneybounding I was thinking that it would be funny to Mersonabound... But the outfit I think would be a little bit too flashy for day-to-day wear.

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Anyway, I know what I'm doodling at work today.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

So yesterday a bunch of my pod got together for a craft day. We got almost nothing done. That said, what we did get done was a leg dummy!!!!

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At one point my dog thought I needed rescuing.

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Its very weird to see the true flatness of my butt in full 3D.

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It's also very odd to come home to on my bed.

Naturally I put it on my head.

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[Mermaid Mystery]

I love ur dog and will pet it next time I'm in SoCal

[PearlieMae]

So yesterday a bunch of my pod got together for a craft day. We got almost nothing done. That said, what we did get done was a leg dummy!!!!

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160131/9605d37e3f79cfb82407c3e75c39efac.jpg

At one point my dog thought I needed rescuing.

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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160131/6cb0b1424b597a2a39b959db0ca15fd6.jpg

Its very weird to see the true flatness of my butt in full 3D.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160131/a21bc46708a2b3877ad2ab88826a4313.jpg

It's also very odd to come home to on my bed.

Naturally I put it on my head.

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You are a very silly mermaid! I like that!

And yes, I put mine on my head, too. The ceiling fan scared the crap out of me! WHAPWHAPWHAP AAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH! :gah:

[Mermaid Clarity]

I love ur dog and will pet it next time I'm in SoCal

He's my unapologetically handsome puppy. Also he's neurotic so... there's that. And he's afraid of water. When we take him to the beach he does that thing where he chases after the waves but then they run after him and he freaks the fuck out.


You are a very silly mermaid! I like that!

And yes, I put mine on my head, too. The ceiling fan scared the crap out of me! WHAPWHAPWHAP AAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH! :gah:


That's why they call me Clam Clam! -cue theme music!-

[Ashton]

It was a very fun day!

[Adalira]

Those photos are so funny, seems like you mers had a great time together :-)

[Merman Arion]

I love watching these updates. Keep up the good work! :clap:

[Mermaid Julianne]

I've havent posted yet in this thread, but I have to say that your posts are highly entertaining and they always make me smile.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Those photos are so funny, seems like you mers had a great time together :-)


I've havent posted yet in this thread, but I have to say that your posts are highly entertaining and they always make me smile.

Awwwww :blush: thank youuuuuuu I'm really trying to push for this to be done by June and I'll have fun with it.

[MerChemi]

//crashes in
OMG IS YOUR DOG A CORGI?? I HAVE A CORGI TOO!!

but before i end up derailing your thread, i wanna say
your tail is going to look so beautiful
your colour scheme and scales and everything= perfection

and this is probably really weird, but your leg dummy is a really pretty colour
i cant wait to see how this turns out!!

[Mermaid Clarity]

//crashes in
OMG IS YOUR DOG A CORGI?? I HAVE A CORGI TOO!!

but before i end up derailing your thread, i wanna say
your tail is going to look so beautiful
your colour scheme and scales and everything= perfection

and this is probably really weird, but your leg dummy is a really pretty colour
i cant wait to see how this turns out!!

Lol thanks, production kinda got halted because I ran out of silicone for a bit but hopefully there will be more soon!

also, Strider is actually half Chow Chow half something but the angle makes him look short. He's the best puppy evveerrrrrr

[MerChemi]

Chow chows are great too! I have a family friend who has a pure chow, and hes super sweet but he sheds everywhere omg

[Mermaid Coralia]

Omfg the silicone porn :lol:
Also died at thinking of pearlie wth a body double on her head getting whapped by the ceiling fan.
I can't wait to see you put the scales all together

[Ashton]

When are you getting more silicone?

[Mermaid Clarity]

SILICONE CAME IN TODAY. TIME TO RESTART PRODUCTION...

As soon as I figure out a good way to pour to mix it.

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[Mermaid Wesley]

Yay! I used spoons to scoop it into smaller containers for my sanity. Just make sure you stir it first


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[Ashton]

Woohoo! You will be ready to sculpt and mold your fluke in no time!


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[Mermaid Clarity]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/0a98a6e23141a0cbbca9aae401991e13.jpg

I made opal scales.

"Why? I thought you were supposed to be making metallic scales."

I KNOW STUPID INNER VOICE STOP JUDGING ME FOR MY WEAKNESS AGAINST DISTRACTON- oooooh cake...

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Don't ask me to write on cakes, guys.


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[Ashe]

So gorgeous! Wonderful shimmer :) I love those little flecks on the inside.

[Mermaid Wesley]

You nerd lol


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[Ashton]

its ok to have a variety of colors, if anything it will add visual interest.

[Mermaid Clarity]

I'm probably not going to use the opal scales. I was testing the idea for my friend (on here as MerSeakilling.) who wants an opal-inspired tail.

[Ashton]

I'm probably not going to use the opal scales. I was testing the idea for my friend (on here as MerSeakilling.) who wants an opal-inspired tail.

Oh yeah, i think I remember talking to her about that idea.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Oh yeah, i think I remember talking to her about that idea.

Yeah, I've been kinda pushing her over the fence into a white opal tail over a black opal. (rather like how we press-ganged her into becoming a mermaid.) We'll be testing scales tomorrow.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Today I'm working on just pulling as many scales as possible today and getting this tail moving. I just pulled a batch of rose gold, copper and brass and I'm waiting on a batch of gold with gold leaf. I'm trying something with the gold leaf, one with large pieces placed in and another with the gold mixed in. The mixed pieces have an interesting Goldschlager (Yes, the alcohol) look.

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I'm hoping that the gold flake, unlike the cellophane will be to delicate inside the silicone and it'll rip apart rather than cut itself out of the scales.


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[Mermaid Wesley]

gorgeous of course

[MermaidRaegan]

I would think that gold leaf would be fine inside your scales. I've seen people put delicate items such as confetti, sprinkles, and even pompoms inside silicone with good results because those items can't cut their way out. You may want to do a 'stress test' on one scale to see if any bits cut through. Can't wait to see all those gorgeous scales come together :)

[PearlieMae]

The gold leaf won't cut through, but it can act as a release. If the silicone pulls away and creates a pocket, it can weaken the silicone, making it prone to tearing. And if water gets in, it can lead to mold damage.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Here's the 3 kinds of gold scales, I'm making.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/52c35931c60bd428e0ad9fe907fa5776.jpg

I think the crumbly Goldschlager scales look the best but I'll still probably do a mix of both. I know the gold won't cut its way out but I am seriously worried about mold.


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[Mermaid Wesley]

If you use them kinda sparingly it should be ok i think.

[Ashton]

for the opal: What IFFFF you used like those rainbow/opal-ish cellophane sheets and like ran it through the paper shredder or cut in into small bits and then embedded them into the silicone... like making your own glitter kinda...

[Mermaid Clarity]

for the opal: What IFFFF you used like those rainbow/opal-ish cellophane sheets and like ran it through the paper shredder or cut in into small bits and then embedded them into the silicone... like making your own glitter kinda...

I thought of that too but it has to be SUPER flimsy stuff because anything thicker cuts itself out. The confetti I have now does that.


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[Ashton]

if it was small like my glitters I have I do not think it would be that big of a deal.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Yeah but then you lose the quartz-shape inside. Meh, I'm not worrying about it now because it's not my tail. #notmytailnotmyproblem


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[Ashton]

Yeah, not your problem to freak out over.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Yeah, not your problem to freak out over.

I HAVE SO MANY OTHERS TO FREAK OUT OVER. #kelpstock2017 #mycircusandmymonkeys #whydopeopleputmeincharge #ithriveonanxiety #whatdoyoumeanhashtagabuse?


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[Ashton]

I HAVE SO MANY OTHERS TO FREAK OUT OVER. #kelpstock2017 #mycircusandmymonkeys #whydopeopleputmeincharge #ithriveonanxiety #whatdoyoumeanhashtagabuse?

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Sounds about right, I have anxiety as well over those certain things as well.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Hey! Shitty infomercial time! Except not. Because this is awesome. Except that I haven't made more art for it yet so you get the same banner.

Yknow how I've been awkwardly hinting at something big and fishy I've been planning/a part of?


Holy crap guys, we announced it.

Kelp-friggin-stock.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160226/18ae922182184a3718b7d58a2298f142.jpg

Do you hear that? That's the sound of my anxiety and excitement battling it out for control of my faculties.

Anyway, link to that's here: SoCal Mermaid Convention ~ Kelpstock 2017
http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?t=12762

Back to our regularly scheduled freak out.


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[Ashton]

*pulls party popper*

[PearlieMae]

I made some opal scales almost two years ago, and they still hold up (I've been trying to kill them just to see how durable they are...). The opal 'glitter' is super flimsy. I wish I bought more when I had the chance because now I can't find it.

35863

PS: ignore the cat hairs.

[MermaidRaegan]

PRETTY!!! *grabby hands*

You should do some test pulls Selkish, I think it would be totally worth it to have something like that.

[Mermaid Clarity]

I made some opal scales almost two years ago, and they still hold up (I've been trying to kill them just to see how durable they are...). The opal 'glitter' is super flimsy. I wish I bought more when I had the chance because now I can't find it.

35863



PS: ignore the cat hairs.


PRETTY!!! *grabby hands*

You should do some test pulls Selkish, I think it would be totally worth it to have something like that.

I actually did do some test pulls of the opal (there are pictures somewhere in this thread) but the scales were cutting themselves out because my confetti was too thick. I'll deal with that another time but Pearlie Mae has got the look I was kind of going for. My friend who's around here somewhere MerSeaKilling (because puns) is working on a really cool method that I hope she documents as well. Maybe if I ever have free time again, we'll post some pulls.

[Mermaid Clarity]

So I've been thinking about a thing and I want to get some input from people...

Since I've started this project, I've wanted to make a set of armor to go with my tail. 'cause metal tail... metal armor... get it? Eeehhh eehhh??

Anyway, inspired by Thom, I was thinking of making a couple scar pieces to add to my tail for that "battle hardened" look to go with armor. I'm just trying to figure out how I'd go about doing all that... Thoughts? Ideas? Would that be cool or does that just seem too busy?

[Mermaid Clarity]

Oh, because for some reason I forgot to post this when I filmed it.


https://www.instagram.com/p/BBOSVS3BXk_/?taken-by=clearly_golden


https://www.instagram.com/p/BBOcZv6BXmt/?taken-by=clearly_golden

It's video of my scales on the mannequin.

[MermaidRaegan]

You could probably make a scar piece like the ones they sell at Halloween and put it somewhere on your tail body, then place scales around it. I'm not sure how you're binding all of the scales together once they are placed, but I imagine the same method would work for a scar piece as well. Did that make any sense? I have no idea. It is late here lol

[Mermaid Clarity]

You could probably make a scar piece like the ones they sell at Halloween and put it somewhere on your tail body, then place scales around it. I'm not sure how you're binding all of the scales together once they are placed, but I imagine the same method would work for a scar piece as well. Did that make any sense? I have no idea. It is late here lol

I wouldn't want the scars to be permanent I think. There might be a bit of lift under the scales when I'm finished but that would be my choice. The other issue is that nothing likes to stick to silicone.

[Mermaid Clarity]

So I put everything back on the dummy that fell down a bit back. (Stupid fish butt) I just wanted to see what I had to make more of and it turns out I'm HALFWAY FINISHED.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160307/cf2a58e949e0a6c51b48292e47c9a417.jpg

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SOON IT WILL BE FLUKE TIME!!!


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[Mermaid Wesley]

Woo! It looks nice!


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[Ashton]

woohoo!

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Shiiiiny.

[Luna Dreamtide]

That is looking really cool! Great work!