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Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 11:58 AM
So I'm making handmade scales to glue onto my old spandex tail, I made scales of various sizes and shapes to get a feel of what I wanted.
I tried gluing the different shapes down to see if the scale shape would influence how it holds.
It does.
The only scale that held out of the scales I actually liked was one shaped like Finfolk scales. 😓
Thats a problem because I OBVIOUSLY don't want to copy their designs.
Another thing is that my scales arent 3d like silicone scales are, they are paper thin, giving me a problem with, when the scales are laid out on top of one another, the whole thing looking like a giant blue blob, no dimension.
I remembered the Finfolk girls talking about how scale tipping added so much more demention to their scales so I tried it. And it worked! But it's hard to find paint that will stay on the scales while in water, the only colors I found were metallic. Gold being one of them. See where I'm going?
I just don't want to get finished with my tail, only to have people say I gold tipped my scales as a way to copy Finfolk.
My tail design is various shades of blue, and gold, so the gold tips look nice. Again, don't want to do it If I'm going to get people upset at me.
NOTE: this tail is for me. Not for sale. I may in the far distant future make them available to mermaids who aren't able to buy silicone tails. But I wouldn't add the gold scale tipping, and that would be after I make more working scale designs to add.
Side note:
My fluke design is original (as far as I know, but similar to numerous different flukes throughout the community, but that's the style that I like, sort of like FFs Loreena fluke but more plain.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/478afc30950f4f0553a41cc1e9fe69a9.jpg
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Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 12:00 PM
Please don't pay attention to the super glittery scale, I was going to use them scarcely throughout the tail as a way to kind of symbolize my name "Shimmer" but I don't know if I like them much anymore
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Mermaid Lorelei
03-15-2016, 12:22 PM
My suggestion is to message Finfolk about it. Artists are usually much more understanding when you approach them directly. :3
Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 12:27 PM
I totally didn't even think about messaging them myself. Thank you lol
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PearlieMae
03-15-2016, 12:42 PM
I LOVE the shimmery scales scattered throughout! Reminds me of Victor Nivotsev's mermaid paintings!
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I agree...it's a personal tail, and if you ask first, you might be pleasantly surprised.
Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 12:53 PM
Ah his paintings were actually what inspired the gold and blue and the shimmery scales!
And I really look up to you, so it's nice to have your opinion, especially since you have such beautiful taste in tails.
I just sent them an email asking about it, and am really anxious to hear back.
I just want to know asap so I can have my tail done for my maternity shoot this summer.
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Mermaid Lorelei
03-15-2016, 01:01 PM
If you don't hear back from their email, you might shoot them a message on facebook as well.
Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 01:07 PM
I will definitely send one on Facebook if they haven't responded in a few days. I know their email stays busy
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SeaGlass Siren
03-16-2016, 01:08 PM
PLEASE OH PLEASE HAVE THE SHIMMERY SCALES!! :swoon:
Shimmer Mermaid
03-16-2016, 01:09 PM
Okay it's decided, shimmery scales are a must. I feel like if I make the tail without them I will be disowned for bad taste lmao
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SeaGlass Siren
03-16-2016, 01:15 PM
imagine it all being put together!! <3
Shimmer Mermaid
03-16-2016, 01:16 PM
The more y'all are supporting it and getting me thinking about it, the more I like the idea
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PearlieMae
03-16-2016, 03:17 PM
As much as I dislike the book, Rainbow Fish has some interesting coloration:
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The scales with the little circles are glittery holographic scales.
SeaGlass Siren
03-16-2016, 10:14 PM
RAINBOWFIIISHHH
Shimmer Mermaid
03-18-2016, 06:57 PM
I still haven't heard from Finfolk, through email or Facebook.
Though my Facebook message says it's been seen.... 😞
I don't know if I should continue, but if I want it to be done by My scheduled date, I have to stay on schedule, and I am supposed to start making the scales Monday, but I don't know what I should do if they won't reply...
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Mermaid Wesley
03-18-2016, 07:13 PM
Hm. Maybe send a follow up message
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Mermaid Cecelia
03-18-2016, 09:53 PM
I think it is alright if you go ahead and do the gold tipping. Like you said, it's going to be your personal tail and not for sale, and you're doing it for a reason other than just copying their ideas. I don't really see what would be the problem with it. You've put in the effort to get permission, so I think they'll understand if you move ahead
Shimmer Mermaid
03-20-2016, 08:21 AM
I sent a follow up message, to no prevail, on Facebook it said seen again, but no reply
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PearlieMae
03-20-2016, 11:37 AM
I don't see it as being a problem for a personal tail, you can do anything you like. The only conflict I would see would be if you were offering it for sale.
Make your dream tail! :cheerleader::cheerleader::cheerleader:
Shimmer Mermaid
03-20-2016, 11:40 AM
Thank you Pearlie! I'll go ahead and start on schedule.
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Shimmer Mermaid
03-22-2016, 03:18 PM
Okay, I'm really glad I took y'alls advice!
I made more scales, and today I worked on tipping, and shimmer scales. I laid them out the way they will be on the tail, and I have to say im in love with how it all looks together!!
The shimmery scales are definitely going to be a part of the tail!!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160322/97607aa4f44e12a88e9b2edf8f87f3be.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160322/1ca8565d312ac9ee1ca45d79210e6e61.jpg
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Shimmer Mermaid
03-22-2016, 03:19 PM
In the second picture I turned on my flash to see how it would make the shimmery scales look, and as you can see, they look amazing!!
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Shimmer Mermaid
03-22-2016, 03:21 PM
https://vimeo.com/159995809
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PearlieMae
03-22-2016, 03:24 PM
It's going to be an amazing tail!
Shimmer Mermaid
03-24-2016, 04:57 PM
So apparently the scale tipping isn't just a FinFolk thing anymore.
Granted that tail looks really nice!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/de2c6a4aedbd6122d1154994558fc342.jpg
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Shimmer Mermaid
03-24-2016, 05:18 PM
And I've come to realize, like the idiot I am, that before I can even remotely start laying scales, I have to finish the fluke, and fins first. 😖
So I have to refit my spandex where the monofin fits, to fit my much bigger monofin before I can even start on making the outside or pretty part of the fluke.
But I can't do that until I go back to my other house in a few days. Ugh the process of moving is creating such a lag.
Looks like it's scales, scales, scales for the next few days
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Light of the Moon
03-29-2016, 10:59 AM
Better to fix now than at 30 thousand feet in the air
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Light of the Moon
03-29-2016, 11:04 AM
Sorry I was texting my brother and reading this at the same time. Nice idea though to tip the scales with shimmer!
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Shimmer Mermaid
03-29-2016, 11:06 AM
I got really confused at first lol I'm trying not to over think it, I'm just trying to let my creativity just take over on it.
Shimmer Mermaid
03-30-2016, 11:13 AM
FinFolk messaged back and said I was more than welcome to continue, and that they were happy they could provide inspiration to me.
Mermaid Wesley
03-30-2016, 04:54 PM
Yay! :)
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Shimmer Mermaid
04-25-2016, 10:43 AM
Making scales, and just started gluing some down. I separated the piece where I'm gluing the scales from the piece that I'm decorating for the fluke.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160425/00c45e1968a44a1c63628f98fcb1f665.jpg
Mermaid Mia
04-25-2016, 01:17 PM
This looks really neat. Might i ask what material the scales are made from?
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Shimmer Mermaid
04-25-2016, 01:28 PM
Flexible plastic strips
Mermaid Mia
04-25-2016, 01:31 PM
Flexible plastic strips
Thank makes sense. Thank you :3 and good luck with your tail! I cant wait to see more
Shimmer Mermaid
04-25-2016, 02:21 PM
Thank you! I've had a hard time getting the gold paint to stick to the scale, but I've put it through several tests, and I think I've got it
Shimmer Mermaid
06-22-2016, 02:58 PM
Made one test hip fin, and am not finished quite yet with painting it. But this was with a metallic yellow, But it turned out more mustardy than I would've liked, and I have since added a layer of a softer metallic gold.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160622/2c7ff018e6fe11aff1e42ffc4031d067.jpg
Neptunie2
06-27-2016, 05:42 PM
Hey beautiful tail!! Where did you get the plastic strips that the scales are made of? I've never seen a spandex tail with scales glued to it so I am very excited!
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Shimmer Mermaid
07-08-2016, 04:24 PM
A small local store has it. I'm really digging it. But it makes for very time consuming scale making.
Shimmer Mermaid
07-08-2016, 04:27 PM
Bought a Mahina Merfin to put on it. Really liking the movement of the fin underwater, but I would like to paint it, and am having some issues getting paint to hold, I haven't tried sanding it yet, because I'm honestly scared to.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160708/bc09a2ad2d68cc0f90362acbf2252eaf.jpg
Mermaid Aria
07-08-2016, 04:56 PM
Bought a Mahina Merfin to put on it. Really liking the movement of the fin underwater, but I would like to paint it, and am having some issues getting paint to hold, I haven't tried sanding it yet, because I'm honestly scared to.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160708/bc09a2ad2d68cc0f90362acbf2252eaf.jpg
There is a thread floating around here (pun intended) where someone painted it with plastidip. I'll see if I can find and link to it when I am not on mobile.
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Shimmer Mermaid
07-08-2016, 04:59 PM
I saw that, and she stated that she sanded it first, but I'm not wanting to risk damaging it. I love how smooth it is.
Mermaid Aria
07-08-2016, 05:04 PM
I saw that, and she stated that she sanded it first, but I'm not wanting to risk damaging it. I love how smooth it is.
I think it'll be smooth again when you paint it. The paint should grab and fill up the rough spots. But I understand where you are coming from, its why I won't cut my Wave.
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Shimmer Mermaid
07-08-2016, 05:06 PM
I may try sanding and panting a small piece on the back of the fin where the foot pockets are
PearlieMae
07-08-2016, 05:29 PM
Plastidip might work, but the first time you scuff it, it will begin to peel off.
Shimmer Mermaid
07-08-2016, 05:36 PM
What do you think about maybe sanding it a little and trying 3d fabric paint? I tried without sanding, and it held when you don't mess with it, but if you were to try to rub it (like if you got sand on it or it got dirty and needed to rub it with your hand or a wash rag) it would come off. Granted i didn't try to take it in the shower to see if it would hold up, which is how most wash their tails.
Cured or not, Tulip 3d fabric paint WILL bond to itself, even if you are putting fresh, wet, non cured paint on the same brand of paint that is a year old. Its like rubber and is made to last in water without fading.
PearlieMae
07-08-2016, 05:37 PM
Not much is going to stick to rubber, realistically.
Shimmer Mermaid
07-08-2016, 05:40 PM
I figured. 😕
I wonder how Mahina painted her fins to match the body of the tail. I don't know if she makes a latex or silicone slip/cover for them or not.
PearlieMae
07-08-2016, 05:45 PM
I have no idea, really...is she still active on Mernetwork?
TheSaltySiren
07-10-2016, 07:31 AM
You can try the Krylon fashion spray paint. it hols to lots of stuff, plastic, rubber and i have used it for things and it works. May work for your tail. Cannot wait to see the finished product.
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