Making a New Fabric Tail (purple and teal)!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Over the weekend, I went to Maryland for my cousin's graduation. As it turns out, she lives in an area that contains a Walmart, a Michael's, AND a Jo-Ann's all within a few miles of each other. Needless to say, I spent about 6 hours shopping, and I got some beautiful fabric from which I will make...wait for it...A NEW TAIL! I'm so excited as my old reliable tail baby is getting a little worn and I've wanted a tail with this color scheme for a while. Since I'm planning this tail out much more than my others, I thought I'd start a thread to document my process and get some input from my fellow mers. Here are some pictures of what I have so far;
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170523/834c332807901fdc698e0ead4eeb7a2d.jpg
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[MermaidJaiden]

That fluke is just absolutely gorgeous!

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[Rinoa Opaltide]

Ooh those are going to look absolutely gorgeous together! I actually have some of the blue metallic swirly fabric to make a tail myself :) Can't wait to see how yours turns out - good luck!

[Mermaid Aria]

Those colors are so pretty! Love the fluke design! 😍

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[Hydra1337]

I can't wait to see how this will turn out. :)

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Thanks! I'm really excited to use the knowledge I've gained in the past to make something new and beautiful. I've actually just about finished the fluke design. I've been working on it for the past hour. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170523/33f89945a5931fa2c7cac41c3bab7cf7.jpg
I'm going to be using the mottled fabric for the fluke. This is the paint job that I'm going to be doing over that fabric. The white parts that are outlined in bold will be painted white, the rest will have the fabric showing through.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

I took off the fringe because I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it.


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[Hydra1337]

I'm personally not a fringe person so I think the updated fluke looks much better.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

I think fringe looks nice on Hannah's tails, but they're neoprene and sequin and I don't know if I'm going to be able to pull of the same look.


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[Hydra1337]

Either way this tail is going to look sick AF. :)

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Either way this tail is going to look sick AF. :)

Thanks! I hope so, too. *fingers crossed*


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[Aurelian]

It looks like a great design! I love the fabrics! :swoon:

[Mermaid Wesley]

Looks super cool!! Keep us posted!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

There's something I just can't quite figure out, though. See, when I make my tails, I have a process that I think is a bit different than most people's. I don't meticulously take my measurements from waist to floor and around each joint and curve. Instead, I roughly measure a section of fabric that wraps around my waist (like a waistband for a pair of jeans) plus a little bit of seam allowance. Then I cut the fabric in a line from that measurement so that I end up with one piece of fabric that is basically a rectangular wrap. I then begin to sew from the "waistband" down, slanting the line inward as i go so that it hugs my body. Every so often, i try it on to make sure that it fits tightly. If it is too loose, then I take it in some more. When I'm done, it ends up being a sort of body sleeve. I make the fluke the normal way, by drawing out the shape on two pieces of fabric, then sewing them together and painting them. Then, I attach the fluke and body by sewing the ends of them together. This method is based off of the OG Fin Fun tails construction, except that you end up with only one seam on the back instead of two seams on the sides. This way, you look a little bit more realistic, and it offers an easy place to put a dorsal fin (just stick some fabric in the seam while sewing!).

Whew. That was a lot. Okay, so here's what I can't figure out:

I love the look of mermaid tails that have a little v-shaped section of scales that dips down into to the fluke (like most silicone tails). It looks lovelier and a lot more realistic than the Fin Fun style (a sharp horizontal seam), which is also what my method generally yields. Can anyone think of a way to create a fabric tail using the method above that results in a single seam in the back, rather than two seams at the sides, as well as the v-shaped overhang?

[Mermaid Ankhali]

http://mernetwork.com/index/image.php?u=6193&dateline=1445923130 vshttp://mermaidtailsreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/realistic-mermaid-tails-for-swimming.jpg

[Mermaid Lieke]

Wow, I love your fabrics!

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[Hydra1337]

Maybe you can lay it flat (with the single seam in the back), trace where the triangle would be as if it had side seams, and then cut it.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

So like, sew the body sleeve, then cut the triangle from the excess fabric and see them together?


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[Hydra1337]

Sew the triangles to the fluke but yeah. Just place everything together before you sew or cut to make sure everything will fit properly.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Hmm..yeah, that could work! I'd have to think something up for hiding the seam though...sequins maybe? Not the fancy kind, just the normal circular kind. I have a bunch of those at home and was thinking about using some...


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

On the other hand, I was planning on painting the sides of the tail black and fading into the fabric. So, maybe I should do the double seam and that paint would hide it...that would make the triangle easier, but there would no place for a dorsal...


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[Aurelian]

That sounds like it would work. :) By the way, that's a great idea for making the tail. I'll remember it when I make mine. It seems like a good time-saver.

[PearlieMae]

I love your fabrics! I have many of the same ones! A little info on them, especially the scale fabric - they aren't very good with abrasion...the shiny wears off pretty quickly, as well as the color. I'm working on a silicone/fabric hybrid that I'm pretty happy with - a $30 trial size of Dragonskin from Smooth On is more than enough to coat your fabric tail in silicone to protect the finish. I coat the fabric before sewing it with a zigzag stitch for stretch.

Also, I make my fabric tails with one back seam. It's essentially a cone...I've drawn a basic pattern, but you can leave the bottom fabric uncut and configure it over your fin once you have it all assembled:

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

I love your fabrics! I have many of the same ones! A little info on them, especially the scale fabric - they aren't very good with abrasion...the shiny wears off pretty quickly, as well as the color. I'm working on a silicone/fabric hybrid that I'm pretty happy with - a $30 trial size of Dragonskin from Smooth On is more than enough to coat your fabric tail in silicone to protect the finish. I coat the fabric before sewing it with a zigzag stitch for stretch.

Also, I make my fabric tails with one back seam. It's essentially a cone...I've drawn a basic pattern, but you can leave the bottom fabric uncut and configure it over your fin once you have it all assembled:

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Wow, thanks, Pearlie! I always do the back seam by trial and error, but that pattern looks perfect. On the silicone side of things, I don't think that I have the skill level to coat my fabric in Dragonskin.


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[PearlieMae]

It's like spreading warm butter - super easy!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

How does one sew through silicone? Do you need an industrial machine? Or do you just do it by hand?


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[PearlieMae]

A regular sewing machine works fine. Just dust on some cornstarch or baby powder so it doesn't stick as it's going through. You can also use tissue paper that you tear away once you're done sewing. Use a wide zigzag stitch (I sew it twice, just to make it even stronger) so it will stretch when you're wearing it. A straight stitch will break.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

I'll have to ask my mom if I can buy it. They'll probably say no, though. Between our lack of income and the cost of college, I doubt they'll give me $30 to just experiment with.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Or maybe I'm just letting fear stop me from making something amazing


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[Mermaid Wesley]

Whatever you do I'm excited to see the result!


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[PearlieMae]

If you don't coat it, just be gentle with it...no butt scooting!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

If you don't coat it, just be gentle with it...no butt scooting!

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Which silicone do you prefer (Dragon Skin 10 Fast, Medium, Slow, 20, FX Pro?)


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[Mermaid Wesley]

Dragonskin 10 is the standard for tails. I like to use the slow.


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[PearlieMae]

Depends on the application and how adept you are at working with the different speeds.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

So, now that my last big out-of-school project is done, I've got a bit of time to work on my (dream) tail! I'm so excited. Ok, so I was still having a bit of trouble visualizing how I could make the little triangle thingy while still maintaining the single back seam. So, what I've basically done here is I've taken a piece of dummy fabric and cut out the shape as it would look if I were to sew a two-seam tail. Then, I pinned the two halves together and cut them apart where the seam would be in the back to get a better visual of the flat shape that I would have to create.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/41209b3095ecf789f3910ae9162564d1.jpg
I've selected this black sparkly fabric to use as a dorsal and perhaps some extra fins. It has ALL the right colors in it![emoji4]

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Okay, so I've forgotten to take pictures of the measurements, but here is the tail skin pinned up and ready to be sewn. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/a0c9f2ba2ecea58fd206d42fb6500f83.jpg


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/bdbf484bbc8d8ede23add2b7f7639949.jpg
The tail body is done!


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[Slim]

That tail is going to be awesome. My friend just completed a tail using that fabric for me.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/bdbf484bbc8d8ede23add2b7f7639949.jpg
The tail body is done!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Sweet! Can I see?


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[Slim]

Most definitely once it arrives. She has to send it first. I'll do my best to remember.

[Slim]

The last 2 pictures I have of it in the progress are these.

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

The last 2 pictures I have of it in the progress are these.

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Wow! That's so pretty! And it looks so professional! We'll be tail twins!


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[Slim]

I'm just trying to be patience. The monofin in that one is way more better apparently than my fin fun monofin (which is falling apart no matter how great I take care of it).

[Slim]

Being twins would be awesome :)

[Mermaid Ankhali]

I also really need to get a new monofin. I only have the Fin Fun one from my first tail that I got 3 years ago. I still make all my tails around that one. Monofins are costly.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/fd2cb1418cdb7b88a91027a7702c8310.jpg
I've got my fluke outlined and ready to cut out!


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[Slim]

That is awesome. Something about my fin fun monofin is that it's trying fold itself within the fabric cover of the monofin. I already used the hair dryer to flatten the plastic out but after the next swim, the cover to that monofin is bending the plastic inside back out of shape.

[Mermaid_Izzy]

I think that the best monofin design I have seen for a fabric tail is the old monfin's MagicTail had. They actually had a rubber foot pocket and it wasn't just fabric holding your feet to the board. It'd be nice to recreate it.

I have had mine for four years and while I was at MerMainia the back of the foot pocket ripped, I am going to try and repair it.

I never understood why fabric tail made their monofins so weird and hard to use.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Oh, well I've never used a monofin that had foot pockets, so I can't really comment on which is easier or harder to use. The only complaints I really have about the Fin Fun monofin are that the elastic around the ankles wears down over time and the design creates a really sharp, blocky heel, which is, like, the exact opposite of the mermaid aesthetic. My fin is bending a bit, too. But, it's probably my fault because of bad storage and all that. Also, I would complain about the (lack of) propulsion, but I had the old fin (clear plastic) before I got the new insert (black). That one had even worse propulsion, and sometimes trying to put it back in the sleeve could cut you. And it broke on me. So, compared to that, the new one is leaps and bounds better. [emoji227]


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[Mermaid_Izzy]

Oh, well I've never used a monofin that had foot pockets, so I can't really comment on which is easier or harder to use. The only complaints I really have about the Fin Fun monofin are that the elastic around the ankles wears down over time and the design creates a really sharp, blocky heel, which is, like, the exact opposite of the mermaid aesthetic. My fin is bending a bit, too. But, it's probably my fault because of bad storage and all that. Also, I would complain about the (lack of) propulsion, but I had the old fin (clear plastic) before I got the new insert (black). That one had even worse propulsion, and sometimes trying to put it back in the sleeve could cut you. And it broke on me. So, compared to that, the new one is leaps and bounds better. [emoji227]


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It's good they are improving it! My MagicTail appears to be made with a Plexiglas like material.


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[Slim]

The monofin inside the one that was just finish is a MagicTail monofin.

[Mermaid_Izzy]

The monofin inside the one that was just finish is a MagicTail monofin.

In your tail?


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[Slim]

Yes. It's the MagicTail Mermaid Flipper Classic for the tail that was just finished. I still can't wait until she sends it so i can try that monofin.

[Mermaid Delphinidae]

Very cool! I love the colors you chose, and the shape you're going with for the fluke. (I actually plan on doing a similar shape for mine) I can't wait to see it finished!

[Slim]

It's done. I'm just waiting for her to send it. When it arrive, I will take pictures :)

[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

Good luck Kali! I can't wait to see the finished tail, it looks so beautiful already! Also thanks for deciding to document your process I've found a lot of useful info for when i make my tail!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Good luck Kali! I can't wait to see the finished tail, it looks so beautiful already! Also thanks for deciding to document your process I've found a lot of useful info for when i make my tail!

Thank you! I'm actually enjoying documenting the process. It helps to keep me on track and plan out my ideas more. Good luck to you, too!


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[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

Thank you! I'm actually enjoying documenting the process. It helps to keep me on track and plan out my ideas more. Good luck to you, too!


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Thanks! I would imagine your enjoying documenting the process. Having written/ illustrated plans help keep me focused and on track more too. :)

[Slim]

My friend will be mailing the tail on her payday which is one week from today. Sorry for the delay ahead of time but when it arrive in over a week, I promise pictures.

[Slim]

My friend posted a picture of the tail with description on her tail making page. I'll post the link below. She added more features to it. I still can't wait to see ya'll finish work using the same fabric.

https://www.facebook.com/SandyTalesMermaidTails/photos/a.440763126256968.1073741828.438423416490939/475119532821327/?type=3&theater

[PearlieMae]

So, now that my last big out-of-school project is done, I've got a bit of time to work on my (dream) tail! I'm so excited. Ok, so I was still having a bit of trouble visualizing how I could make the little triangle thingy while still maintaining the single back seam. So, what I've basically done here is I've taken a piece of dummy fabric and cut out the shape as it would look if I were to sew a two-seam tail. Then, I pinned the two halves together and cut them apart where the seam would be in the back to get a better visual of the flat shape that I would have to create.


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THAT'S ingenious! I wish I would have thought of that before I chewed through many yards of fabric before figuring it out!

[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

THAT'S ingenious! I wish I would have thought of that before I chewed through many yards of fabric before figuring it out!

Dummies/ testing: always a good idea. I made a couple dummies when i was making a cardigan before I sewed the final piece, even though I figured I could just jump to the final fabric; it was a good thing I did as I ended up making several adjustments several times! I'm planning on doing the same thing when I make my tail (after I gather up all the necessary funds).

[MermaidJaiden]

I am actually using the same fabric as you! And im having the same problems with the whole V thing! Also btw, i talked with you on courtneys live stream hehe.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

I am actually using the same fabric as you! And im having the same problems with the whole V thing! Also btw, i talked with you on courtneys live stream hehe.

Oh, HIII!!!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Ok, sorry, I know I've been MIA for a while. I've been having some complications with making the tail (specifically, attaching the back of the tail body to the fluke). I got a little discouraged, but I think I'm working it out now. So, here's what happened:
I was having a hard time trying to figure out exactly how to sew the back half of the tail to the fluke while maintaining the same v-shape and continuing the back seam in a way that looked neat. The front actually came out okay. But, anyway, eventually, I figured that I had to just go for it or I would end up going nowhere. So, I put some of the leftover dorsal fabric between the scale fabric and pinched the scale fabric together in a way that mimicked the seam and pushed it under the sewing machine. Lucky me, it ended up coming out very neat. Unlucky me, the ankle area was too small. Instead of a nice, pretty, v-shaped intersection of scales and fluke, it just looked like a bunch of wrinkled, stretched out spandex. Not very pretty!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So now I'm on the way to fixing it. I undid the bottom part of the back seam. Also, the tail body was too long, so I'm going to add an elastic waistband that will make it the right length so that the v-shaped section will be just the right amount of stretched out. The problem with that then was the fluke shape, which pulls in dramatically toward the center. Because of that, shortening the tail body exposed the underlying monofin. So, now I'm thinking that I may have to sew the fluke shut.


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[MermaidJaiden]

If you want, i am going to do my mine in a way that looks somewhat realistic but still somewhat easy to do, i could show you

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Update photos:


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So, I've attached the back of the tail body to the fluke (and covered the slightly unsightly seam with a heel fin. I've also pretty much fixed the fluke problems by sewing the fluke partially closed so that the monofin can remain secure. My tail is now technically swimmable!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

However, I am far from finished. I still have to paint the fluke and add the side fins as seen in my earlier fluke design pattern sketch. I also plan on adding sequins. Very pretty sequins [emoji2] Also, I will be putting in an elastic waistband. Lastly, I was thinking oh using my new airbrush to add some black spots to the tail body and some pretty fade-out effects to the fluke and maybe the sides of the tail. What are you guys think? I would be using Createx paints.

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[Slim]

It's looking great

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Thank you!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

I'm actually surprised at how many people are using this fabric, but our tails are all coming out so different!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So I fell asleep for about 2 hours, so here's the continuation of what I was doing two hours ago: you can see in this photo how, even with the extra sewing to secure the monofin, the sleeve still shows. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170616/a373e360075b0570df297dbc0321c2b8.jpg
So I'm thinking of covering that by adding a little piece of fabric like this on both sides:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170616/33c409b0e9ed27589cbf53a87bb661d0.jpg
Then there's the other problem that I'm not quite sure how to fix: I stupidly cut out the second half of the fluke backwards, so now they don't match up...Suggestions?


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170617/90ec01ecf42245f1e3aede0c993b3e31.jpg
Who's ready to get paintin'?

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Progress photo:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170617/ccd9c8c9ea4a3e7ded3521866cd21cf8.jpg


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

The first side is done!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170617/cff16547d880471936957ef16979e197.jpg


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Oh, btw did I mention that I have a time limit? This tail has to be done by Wednesday so that I can pack it for Project: Graduation (my school-sanctioned overnight trip to FunPlex) on Thursday night! o.O


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[Slim]

It looks like it is already done.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

It looks like it is already done.


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Oh, thank you! But I have some more planned for this baby. I want to add some spots to the tail body (which I will probably need a body form for) and I planned on adding some extra (realistic) fins. I was going to put them at the ankle like in my drawing, but that may be too much, so i may make them pectoral fins. I also want to add sequins. It's amazing what some basic, circular sequins can do for a fabric tail. If you haven't, you should see Courtney Mermaid's tails. I LOVE them! And, besides all that, I've still got to paint the other side!! [emoji15]


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[Hydra1337]

Holy carp it looks amazing so far!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Holy carp it looks amazing so far!

Thank you![emoji227]


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[MermaidJaiden]

Oh my gosh you are definitely doing a way better job than i will😭 That paint job is just stunning

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[Neerai]

So great job!!! :D

[Mermaid Ankhali]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170620/d4d4790cd5702d54f4f1dbd1f31067f6.jpg
Mom is letting me paint in the living room, so I've got to be extra careful! It's time to paint the other side and then put the finishing touches on this side (to make it look nicer and neater). Then I need to make a body form so that I can paint some spots on the tail body.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So, you know how you heat-set Createx by using an iron (with protective fabric in the middle) or a dryer or the like? Will that damage the holographic fabric?


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[Aurelian]

The fluke looks like a stained-glass window. I love it! :swoon:

[MermaidJaiden]

Im going to be heat setting my paint with a blow dryer on the highest setting for around 40 minutes

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Im going to be heat setting my paint with a blow dryer on the highest setting for around 40 minutes

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Ok. Thanks.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

If anybody is curious about materials, besides the Createx paint and airbrush, I'm also using these CHEAP craft paints from Walmart:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170620/b43d43f1a1abfe9938f64288cc365806.jpg
And these two Elmer's Paint markers. I actually didn't use the white one on the other side, and I wish that I had because I am able to use it to create this 3D effect that kicks the tail of the other side:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170620/53764ea8cec777606a9563abc606e741.jpg
But using paint markers is really fun and easy. Once I swim-test this baby and see how the paint holds up, I'll go get them in a bunch of colors if they hold up well.


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[PearlieMae]

BEAUTIFUL!!!

(I hope you are testing everything on scraps!)

[MermaidJaiden]

Hey kali, could you tell me how you blended the black part on top? I have a blend in my design but i dont exactly know how i should do it :/

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[Mermaid Wesley]

Beautiful!!


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Hey kali, could you tell me how you blended the black part on top? I have a blend in my design but i dont exactly know how i should do it :/

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Yeah, I used an airbrush. That kind of faded, natural look is really only possible with an airbrush. I mean, you can accomplish something similar using a small paintbrush and scumbling or dry blending technique, but it's not quite the same.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

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I have been adding sequins to give my tail that extra POP and sparkle. This portion is inspired by the beautiful tails of Courtney Mermaid.
By the way, my fluke design is inspired by Mermaid Raven. If, no, WHEN I finally save up enough money for a full silicone, I definitely want a Merbella's!


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[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

Wow Kali, your tail is so beautiful, I love all the details, the paint, patterns and colors. Its easy to tell you put everything into working on that tail, and it shows! It's been super fun to see it progress, and those sequins! They definitely bring it up to the next level! It looks so great!

[Dancing Fish]

Wow, I LOVE that fluke painting! So cool!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Hello, fellow merfolk! I know that I haven't posted on this thread in a long time, and, honestly, it was because I was so disappointed with the results of my test swim. However, I realize that I may be doing the community a disservice by withholding these details, so here goes. Pictures forthcoming.

Ok, so I went swimming on the night of June 22-23. When I left the pool, I was expecting there to be a bit of damage in the knee area as the pool was only 3 feet deep. I did not expect to see two black smudges where my kneecaps had been. That's right, abrasion causes the holographic design to fade...to black. COMPLETELY. I also noticed that most of the paint job had come off, but I expected that. I knew that craft paints aren't the best to use, but the reason why I used them is because the fluke on my old tail (the orange one) was painted using some old craft paints that I found in my room. I found that the paint seeped into the fabric and turned plasticky, which was perfect! However, when I bought the same set of paints, I found that the application was thin and smudgy, so either the formula was changed, or the initial paints only worked well because they were so old. Regardless, I wasn't surprised that most of the paint job wore off. The Elmer's paint markers held up fairly well and so did the airbrushing (Createx). However, they DID FADE, so please take that into account if you plan on using them and not reprinting your tail often. Still, that I could deal with. I went home that night-morning very tired and ready to patch up my tail and get to work on finishing it. However, the next time I saw my tail in daylight, it was a mermaid horror story come true. Pearlie, I never should have doubted you. So what did I find? Well, I found that a about a foot-length section of the tail body had turned from shimmery purple-green to bleach-colored. Obviously, I was very discouraged by this as I was very excited to have the shimmery black, purple, teal, spotted tail of my dreams.

So, tl;dr If you're using this fabric, COAT IT IN SILICONE. It WILL NOT last if you don't. ❤️ Cheers.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

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Discoloration of the tail body.
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Abrasion damage


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So, now, I've just got to accept that my tail is going to be more colorful than I wanted it to be.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So here's the plan: I'm going to make a body form so that i can see the full impact of the discoloration. Then, I'm going to go with my original plan of airbrushing besides black or maybe a dark purple and painting spots on the tail body. I'm hoping that that will hide the discoloration at least a little bit. I also bought some translucent purple Shimmery sequins, so I am going to put those over some of the discolored area and hope that that brings it back to the purple color at least a little bit. And then I'm going to add more sequins. Almost every scale will have at least on sequin on it. So hopefully the colored sequins will also help to bring the color back. And then, I'm going to coat the tail body in silicone.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

However, I'm not sure what to do with the fluke. Should I repaint it with some better quality fabric paint like Lumiere or Permaset Aqua? Or, should I repainted with the same paint, and then cover it in silicone? If I cover the fluke in silicone, will I be able to take the fin in and out? Or will I have to so the monofin inside? I was thinking about maybe getting a new monofin anyway, though.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Does anybody know of a monofin that has more propulsion than a Fin Fun, but essentially the same shape (can replace a Fin Fun in a tail made for a Fin Fun)?


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[Slim]

Magictail classic monofin can fit into any fin fun skin and it a lot more stiff with no floaty. I only use my tail of the same fabric in a salt water pool or spring. The person that made the tail decide to use a different fabric than the one I sent her and use a even cheaper fabric for the fluke. That cheaper fabric caused damage by the skin swim where the scale fabric survive. I feel your struggle though I put my in a tail maker.

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Magictail classic monofin can fit into any fin fun skin and it a lot more stiff with no floaty. I only use my tail of the same fabric in a salt water pool or spring. The person that made the tail decide to use a different fabric than the one I sent her and use a even cheaper fabric for the fluke. That cheaper fabric caused damage by the skin swim where the scale fabric survive. I feel your struggle though I put my in a tail maker.

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I DEFINITELY feel your pain. RIP our old ideas of what our tails would be like! [emoji6] I know it super-sucks, but the most important thing is to not be discouraged and try to think of ways to integrate the damages into a new and cohesive tail design.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Here's the tail wrapped around the body form:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170702/7aa81477a1e75370a2115ada09e14d22.jpg
You can see the large patch of discoloration here. But I think a nice paint job could hide it.


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[lotusauriel]

Over the weekend, I went to Maryland for my cousin's graduation. As it turns out, she lives in an area that contains a Walmart, a Michael's, AND a Jo-Ann's all within a few miles of each other. Needless to say, I spent about 6 hours shopping, and I got some beautiful fabric from which I will make...wait for it...A NEW TAIL! I'm so excited as my old reliable tail baby is getting a little worn and I've wanted a tail with this color scheme for a while. Since I'm planning this tail out much more than my others, I thought I'd start a thread to document my process and get some input from my fellow mers. Here are some pictures of what I have so far;
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That oilslick fabric is to die for.

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[Mermaid Ankhali]

That oilslick fabric is to die for.

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Yeah, I may have to give it another go since this tail isn't coming out exactly as I wanted it to. I really hope all of this trial-and-error turns out well.


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[lotusauriel]

Yeah, I may have to give it another go since this tail isn't coming out exactly as I wanted it to. I really hope all of this trial-and-error turns out well.


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I'm sorry it's not going as you wanted. I didn't read through the whole thread, so I missed that. I hope you can fix it.

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[Nerdmaid Faith]

Does anybody know of a monofin that has more propulsion than a Fin Fun, but essentially the same shape (can replace a Fin Fun in a tail made for a Fin Fun)?


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A suntails monofin is pretty good!

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[Arking]

That is a stunning material, what an exciting project to be working on. :O I wonder what kind of fabric paint they've used to create that iridescent effect.

[Mermaid Fenicia]

So here's the plan: I'm going to make a body form so that i can see the full impact of the discoloration. Then, I'm going to go with my original plan of airbrushing besides black or maybe a dark purple and painting spots on the tail body. I'm hoping that that will hide the discoloration at least a little bit. I also bought some translucent purple Shimmery sequins, so I am going to put those over some of the discolored area and hope that that brings it back to the purple color at least a little bit. And then I'm going to add more sequins. Almost every scale will have at least on sequin on it. So hopefully the colored sequins will also help to bring the color back. And then, I'm going to coat the tail body in silicone.


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Sequins will cut through the silicone :(

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Sequins will cut through the silicone :(

What do you mean? I have never used silicone before. I don't understand.


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[Dancing Fish]

Pearlie found that if you try to cover sequins with silicone, the sharp edges of the sequins will shear through the silicone and leave holes. The silicone also won't stick to the sequins themselves. You might have better luck coating the fabric with silicone first, then adding the sequins. If you sew them on a little loosely, so they're not pressing down too hard on the silicone layer, you might have better luck.

[Mermaid Bree]

I just received my tail with the SunTails fin. I'm extremely impressed with it - while not a 'pro' dive type, it seems to really stay on your feet, and the way the foot pockets wrap around the fin, it's not sloppy... In other words, not a TOY.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Pearlie found that if you try to cover sequins with silicone, the sharp edges of the sequins will shear through the silicone and leave holes. The silicone also won't stick to the sequins themselves. You might have better luck coating the fabric with silicone first, then adding the sequins. If you sew them on a little loosely, so they're not pressing down too hard on the silicone layer, you might have better luck.

But I already sewed the sequins on. SO MANY. They're not she'll-shaped or anything, just regular round ones.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

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So this is basically what I spent the whole day doing.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Even though I am beginning to like this tail again, I must still urge anyone who is using this fabric: DO NOT SWIM IN CHLORINE WITH THE BARE FABRIC. Here's a before/after comparison of what happened after just one swim:
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Yaya Han, I expected better from you.


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[Mermaid Bree]

Looks like a chemical reaction between the sequins and the 'foil' on the fabric - most sequins are made from metalized mylar, and it's possible that there was a little 'battery' action occuring, if those dark stains are where the sequins were.

[Slim]

I feel the struggle.


Even though I am beginning to like this tail again, I must still urge anyone who is using this fabric: DO NOT SWIM IN CHLORINE WITH THE BARE FABRIC. Here's a before/after comparison of what happened after just one swim:
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Yaya Han, I expected better from you.


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[Arking]

Looks like a chemical reaction between the sequins and the 'foil' on the fabric - most sequins are made from metalized mylar, and it's possible that there was a little 'battery' action occuring, if those dark stains are where the sequins were.

Fascinating, and yet terrible at the same time. Fortunately the pattern seem to be identifiable yet which means it can be repainted.

With a little patience you'll be able to cover up the mess but this is a tragic turn of events. I'm glad you're not giving up, you've got this just a some patch work and you'll be back in the water in no time.

[lotusauriel]

I have metallic green mermaid scale leggings, where the color has rubbed out in places they rub together too. I wish I knew of a way to fix or prevent this. I guess this means I need to do something else for the water corset I'm planning. Was going to use a Yaya Han iridescent spandex, kinda like your fluke, as a top layer. Whether you try to rework it, or start over, if you use the same fabrics, maybe do it as the base to a partial silicone tail, and pipe silicone scales on top of it. I don't know if it will obscure the colors and pattern or not. You would have to use your body form, because it won't be stretchy anymore. I am going to have to test this theory.

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[PearlieMae]

Silicone over sequins will only end in tears. Tears in the silicone and tears from your eyes!

You could paint a coat of silicone over the tail, little bits at a time, and literally paint it around the sequins. I if you tint your silicone with a tiny bit of pigment, you might be able to restore some of its former glory. Or wait until Joann's has a 60% off coupon and start over with a new piece of that fabric... I know that's a lot to take on, but sometimes it's easier to start again, than beat yourself up trying to resurrect your prototype. The second tail will go so much faster, too, now that you know what not to do.

Keep your tail on the form to work on, if you do decide to try and repair this one, it makes life a lot easier. Straighten out a wire coat hanger and pierce it through the top of the body form (then twist it back together) so you can hang it up to work on it. It makes life easier.

I'm sorry you ran into so much trouble! Good luck!

[Mermaid_Izzy]

I don't know if she's on MerNetwork, but she was at MerMania. (Here's the link to her Instagram: http://instagram.com/one_mermaid_fantasy)

But she posted on Instagram about how swimming in a fabric, very similar to this, destroyed it.

Link to post:https://instagram.com/p/BVazW9TBhTL/



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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Looks like a chemical reaction between the sequins and the 'foil' on the fabric - most sequins are made from metalized mylar, and it's possible that there was a little 'battery' action occuring, if those dark stains are where the sequins were.

Oh, no, the dark spots are spots that I painted on. The stripes were originally to cover the knee abrasions, but I kind of like them now.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

So I think that I'm going to start over and take another crack at this tail. I've got some coupons from JoAnn's, so I'll get some new fabric as soon as I can. I'm not sure what I'll do with this tail. I mean, it is technically swimmable now, and since I'm not going to coat it in silicone, maybe I should just swim in it for as long as I can. Oh, by he way, I found that airbrushing with iridescent violet Createx paint at least partially covered the discoloration.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

I wanted to paint spots on this tail because of a design that I drew of what my dream tail might look like one day:
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Yes, it most certainly is a Merbella's full silicone (Hearts out to you, Raven, you awesome tail maker you!) When I saw this fabric, I thought that it would be perfect to make the fabric version of this tail. Maybe, once I start over, I can paint in the spots and they won't look like damage because the fabric will still look shiny and new.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

Oh, btw, I plan on utilizing the same fluke design that I started out with.


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[Mermaid Ankhali]

I suppose I should have posted this earlier, but, inspirations for this tail project include:
Mermaid Raven: my fluke design is inspired by her Angler fluke (my all time favorite silicone tail fluke)
Courtney Mermaid: inspired the sequined scales, obviously [emoji4]
Gothic architecture: inspired parts of the fluke design.


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[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

Oh my gosh! Kali I've been following this thread from the beginning and it was heartbreaking to see the damage. That being said I love how determined you are and the black stripes on the sides look really cool. I wish you much luck on the remake/ resurrection whichever you choose. I'm also glad the YaYa Han fabric only d do anything to you, other mers have experienced burns and fabric disintegration.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Oh my gosh! Kali I've been following this thread from the beginning and it was heartbreaking to see the damage. That being said I love how determined you are and the black stripes on the sides look really cool. I wish you much luck on the remake/ resurrection whichever you choose. I'm also glad the YaYa Han fabric only d do anything to you, other mers have experienced burns and fabric disintegration.

Oh my cod, are you serious? That is awful! Has Yaya Han said anything about that?
...I suppose I can't just swim in this tail until it falls apart, then.


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[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

Unfortunately I am (trust me I wish I wasn't). I know, it's good the knowledge is out there now. Honestly I haven't looked up any recalls or official statements from her on the matter so I don't know.
I personally wouldn't recommend swimming in it more just because someone passed out after wearing a costume made from it for two hours. My guess is that the sweating caused the chemical on the back to loosen and transfer to the skin, at the same time slowly tightening on the wearer to the point that it caused a decrease in both circulation and available oxygen.

And if you want a safer alternative Spandex World and Spandex House are my go-tos.

[Slim]

I've been swimming in a saltwater pool and I haven't experienced the burn yet. The color fading hasn't even started yet so I think that maybe a chlorine reaction thing to it. The fluke made a with a different fabric than what I ordered is a different story. I guess it can really only be worn in a chemical-less body of water.

[Slim]

I wish I seen this two months ago.


Unfortunately I am (trust me I wish I wasn't). I know, it's good the knowledge is out there now. Honestly I haven't looked up any recalls or official statements from her on the matter so I don't know.
I personally wouldn't recommend swimming in it more just because someone passed out after wearing a costume made from it for two hours. My guess is that the sweating caused the chemical on the back to loosen and transfer to the skin, at the same time slowly tightening on the wearer to the point that it caused a decrease in both circulation and available oxygen.

And if you want a safer alternative Spandex World and Spandex House are my go-tos.

[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

I've been swimming in a saltwater pool and I haven't experienced the burn yet. The color fading hasn't even started yet so I think that maybe a chlorine reaction thing to it. The fluke made a with a different fabric than what I ordered is a different story. I guess it can really only be worn in a chemical-less body of water.

Oh that's great. And that's even better! It may be, it could also be the body's reaction to it (in your case a lack there of :D ). Also I can imagine if it was coated with silicone on the inside it wouldn't (be as) likely to cause that effect. Another thing is you have to follow the manufacturer's instructions to the letter to avoid the side effects, but it doesn't guarantee they won't happen. I've decided to stay away from that particular line.

That's too bad about the fluke fabric. What brand was it and what did it do? If you don't mind my asking, never bad to have more information!

[Sea~Phoenix Savannah]

I wish I seen this two months ago.

Aww :( Well at least you know now! I love those places.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Does that mean that this tail will not be safe even if I coat it in silicone?


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[PearlieMae]

I can't imagine that the fabric is not completely safe for most people. I have a feeling that whoever experienced 'burning', etc. must have either had some underlying issues or was the one person in thousands that might have an allergic reaction. From Cosplayfabrics.com: "The Yaya Han Collection Mermaid Oil Slick is 95% Polyester and 5% Spandex and has a 185 GSM. The fabric is 58” wide. We recommend hand washing in cold water with only non-chlorine bleach. Line dry and do not iron. Gentle steaming is fine, but always test carefully in a small area." And Spandex, according to Wikipedia: "Spandex, Lycra or elastane is a synthetic fiber known for its exceptional elasticity. It is stronger and more durable than natural rubber. It is a polyether-polyurea copolymer that was invented in 1958 by chemist Joseph Shivers at DuPont's Benger Laboratory in Waynesboro, Virginia." So it couldn't have been a latex reaction as there is no latex. My only beef with Yaya Han's fabrics is the claim that they are durable.

The fabric should be perfectly fine once coated in platinum-cure silicone (DragonSkin). I don't recommend silicone caulk.

PS: I DID experience some of the dye from the black fabric bleeding into the silicone, but I neglected to pre-wash the fabric before coating it.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

I can't imagine that the fabric is not completely safe for most people. I have a feeling that whoever experienced 'burning', etc. must have either had some underlying issues or was the one person in thousands that might have an allergic reaction. From Cosplayfabrics.com: "The Yaya Han Collection Mermaid Oil Slick is 95% Polyester and 5% Spandex and has a 185 GSM. The fabric is 58” wide. We recommend hand washing in cold water with only non-chlorine bleach. Line dry and do not iron. Gentle steaming is fine, but always test carefully in a small area." And Spandex, according to Wikipedia: "Spandex, Lycra or elastane is a synthetic fiber known for its exceptional elasticity. It is stronger and more durable than natural rubber. It is a polyether-polyurea copolymer that was invented in 1958 by chemist Joseph Shivers at DuPont's Benger Laboratory in Waynesboro, Virginia." So it couldn't have been a latex reaction as there is no latex. My only beef with Yaya Han's fabrics is the claim that they are durable.

The fabric should be perfectly fine once coated in platinum-cure silicone (DragonSkin). I don't recommend silicone caulk.

PS: I DID experience some of the dye from the black fabric bleeding into the silicone, but I neglected to pre-wash the fabric before coating it.

Thanks for letting me know, Pearlie!


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[The Harlem Mermaid]

Oh love the colors beautiful

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[StellaRae]

I've been swimming in a saltwater pool and I haven't experienced the burn yet. The color fading hasn't even started yet so I think that maybe a chlorine reaction thing to it. The fluke made a with a different fabric than what I ordered is a different story. I guess it can really only be worn in a chemical-less body of water.


Just FYI saltwater pools are still chlorine pools, so if you're allergic to chlorine swimming in saltwater pools isn't a good idea. You'd have to find a pool sanitized with biguanide. In a "salt pool" the chlorine is just manufactured by a chemical reaction from the salt getting "zapped" and running over the titanium plates form the cell generator. I guess you are just lucky that your fabric has held up better! Are you washing it out immediately after? I've found this has helped with my fabric tails but I haven't used this fabric before.

[Slim]

I immediately wash it as soon as I get out of the pool. The scale part still has it shiny to it. The fluke made with a different fabric however is wearing out.


Just FYI saltwater pools are still chlorine pools, so if you're allergic to chlorine swimming in saltwater pools isn't a good idea. You'd have to find a pool sanitized with biguanide. In a "salt pool" the chlorine is just manufactured by a chemical reaction from the salt getting "zapped" and running over the titanium plates form the cell generator. I guess you are just lucky that your fabric has held up better! Are you washing it out immediately after? I've found this has helped with my fabric tails but I haven't used this fabric before.

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Well, JoAnn's fabric sale ends today, and every fabric that I want to buy is either out of stock or only available in a store over 25 mi away :headdesk:

[Slim]

:( On the bright side, you can use coupons when they do get them back in stock. I know the system if you need help with that.

Well, JoAnn's fabric sale ends today, and every fabric that I want to buy is either out of stock or only available in a store over 25 mi away :headdesk:

[Mermaid Ankhali]

:( On the bright side, you can use coupons when they do get them back in stock. I know the system if you need help with that.

Really? That's amazing!


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[MermaidJaiden]

Okay i have no idea why i am the only one not having problems with this fabric?? I have swam in this fabric multiple times, no rinsing or washing afterwards, and it is still perfect. Maybe i just got lucky, idk.

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[Slim]

Okay i have no idea why i am the only one not having problems with this fabric?? I have swam in this fabric multiple times, no rinsing or washing afterwards, and it is still perfect. Maybe i just got lucky, idk.

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Only my fluke from a fabric I didn't pick is what being ruined on my tail. The scale part which is the same as your that I did pick and paid for hasn't shown no sign of fading. We both got lucky with the scale.

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[MermaidJaiden]

Only my fluke from a fabric I didn't pick is what being ruined on my tail. The scale part which is the same as your that I did pick and paid for hasn't shown no sign of fading. We both got lucky with the scale.

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Seems that we did.

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[Melamermaid_Kendra]

I soaked this fabric in vinegar, detergent, and hydrogen peroxide last night (dog peed on it and i had to get the acid out) and it stayed perfectly fine, minus the little fade to where the pee was

[MermaidBrandie]

A suntails monofin is pretty good!

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Also the Mirage Merfin!

[Mermaid Ankhali]

Only my fluke from a fabric I didn't pick is what being ruined on my tail. The scale part which is the same as your that I did pick and paid for hasn't shown no sign of fading. We both got lucky with the scale.

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Is your scale patt
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Is your scale pattern upside down?

[Slim]

It isn't upside down. I had to double check as I wouldn't had been surprised if it wasn't.


Is your scale pattern upside down?