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AniaR
06-01-2018, 09:37 AM
I had tried to make this post a few weeks ago before my trip, but I broke the mernetwork. Hahaha So we had to delete the thread and here I am to re do it.

Long Story short, Anna Brown is a girl who uses multiple aliases online to scam and harass other mermaids. She has been banned from the majority of mermaid groups, but also from this forum.

Many people have had bad experiences being scammed, and then harassed when they stand up to it.

Here a google docs link to a file I created with as much proof as I can personally find.

If you've had an issue with her, please post here. You can block out names in screen shots to protect identities.

You can see the file here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vx2zeqhajbrrcm7/This-document-serves-as-a-track-record-of-Anna-Browne.doc?dl=0

A quick summary:

Lying about quality of tails and skill level, over charging and then harassing when mers publicly review
Leaving fake reviews on other's mers and tail makers pages
Lying about a known autistic mer-fan and trying to convince the network that he sexually harassed her
Reaching out to new community members and lying about existing ones
Using multiple accounts on FB to avoid bans
Using alt accounts/emails on mernetwork to avoid bands and suspensions
DOS Attack on Mernetwork
Using alt accounts to create a tumblr that openly bashed Finfolk (despite being in the Pod Squad)
Marking up used mermaid tails to sell
Marking up (drastically) mer-chandise (like purses) to scam mers
Fake/Scam fundraisers



Please be aware of people like this and don't be afraid to speak out. Fraud schemes are real!

AniaR
06-01-2018, 09:54 AM
Here's her current Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/SiliconeCove

Few screen shots from some recent drama that didn't make it into the doc:

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33677183_10210899918365267_8441996191540969472_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=edad42a631c31f39cf1fb7670a07e24c&oe=5B7C6144

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32541338_10216133035421384_5822436873968025600_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=13aebc4456095dc354b53705f04e52d7&oe=5BB778FD

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32595152_10216133035341382_2546357767585660928_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=de22af34855c9cced75f020c12e1c395&oe=5BB417BE

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32668022_10216133035541387_1415281961294888960_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=bc6056378110967dc085999051a5f6e7&oe=5BBC0744

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32507932_10216133035661390_3276868332392808448_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=447c1c16666fa63e9b4eeedbeefc6506&oe=5B8AC0DB

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32634497_10216133036141402_1498342411141644288_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=01ec8897048572afd8336814df552e05&oe=5BC2BDD6

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31664494_10216133105823144_4539101414722371584_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=146ca15f20bc0e004f46588c69414921&oe=5BB64DC6

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32501185_10216133106223154_3554380067901538304_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a9a2a42bd73fa27cc117289a42adc0fd&oe=5B8B1DB9

A "silicone" tail that "UPS" made look like this, lol

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32579952_10216177884468939_4599823241446424576_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1d8c8833edc09d38f48f596e8b7a20f5&oe=5B79A5F2

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32365605_10216177885508965_4708362309171412992_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=869c9e3de36cf344c0f0f2a992b08d5a&oe=5BB97016

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32652393_10216177886388987_5162946599877345280_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b7c2209c87574e30e21b580b7db02c3b&oe=5B8ADAE0

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32649778_10216177887709020_6018302342036717568_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8601cdfddc344faa7092b5bb92afbffc&oe=5BB9A12E

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32634487_10216177890829098_6225559966044913664_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0f8607ac195b588f5a50036de0d54a43&oe=5BBC284B

Keiris
06-01-2018, 02:28 PM
OMG WHAT A HOT MESS!! No talented tailmaker would turn that out! No shame at all.

PearlieMae
06-01-2018, 08:02 PM
Been looking for my string of screenshots from the demented mind of Anna Browne, but i think i deleted them when i had no room to download video of a monkey scratching its butt and sniffing his fingers.

Priorities.

Merman Storm
06-01-2018, 09:49 PM
From Wikipedia:
"Silicone rubbers are often one- or two-part polymers, and may contain fillers to improve properties or reduce cost. Silicone rubber is generally non-reactive, stable, and resistant to extreme environments and temperatures from -55 °C to +300 °C while still maintaining its useful properties"

That is as hot as an oven on broil. No way it was melted in transit.

Keiris
06-01-2018, 10:13 PM
Been looking for my string of screenshots from the demented mind of Anna Browne, but i think i deleted them when i had no room to download video of a monkey scratching its butt and sniffing his fingers.

Priorities.

Bahahahahah! Pearlie!!! :lol::lol::lol:

Ransom
06-02-2018, 06:57 AM
Seriously, this is messed up. I hope Brit gets her money back -- whatever that... abomination is, it's got no business being sold to anyone.

Thing is, AB's entire setup requires new victims since she can only do it once per person. Hopefully enough new mers know to do their homework and reach out to the right people.

PhaylennMurúch
06-02-2018, 05:44 PM
Seriously, this is messed up. I hope Brit gets her money back -- whatever that... abomination is, it's got no business being sold to anyone.

Thing is, AB's entire setup requires new victims since she can only do it once per person. Hopefully enough new mers know to do their homework and reach out to the right people.


I've been dealing with her for over a year now, you'd be surprised at how many people were conned into giving her multiple chances. How many folk just didn't say anything publicly when they got attacked or scammed by her, because there is a stigma against talking about your bad experiences and destroying someone's reputation and/or business.
(I had a horrific experience with Mermaid Morticia and Siren's Calling. When I posted about it I had SO many people come forward and say that they too had bad experiences but were too afraid to talk about it publicly. Had I known of her behavior before hand I wouldn't have dropped hundreds of dollars on her to make a tail)
So she's been scamming people for over a year now and it's only been since like November that people are becoming aware of it.

This isn't her only ploy as well, Anna has been banned from buying Avon for her shit, she is constantly in any BST group, not just mermaid related, trying to get people to buy her overpriced crap.
And I'm going to be honest, there's a sale in classifieds that has all of her trademark keywords, "Authentic" precious metals or stones, pointing out how much the seller spent on making it vs how much they're selling it for, etc. I just looked and it seems like that person has been banned already.

LaenaMarsh
06-02-2018, 08:04 PM
Well, here’s another Anna Browne story. I have 9 months of chat logs and paypal receipts if need be, but I haven’t had time to pull out the salient parts and redact personally identifiable information. Honestly, they’re pretty boring, because up until the tail arrived Anna and I were on pretty good terms, and then after we start talking about a settlement they just get repetitive, but I have them if people feel like they need more proof. I have included our correspondence in May so you can see what went down when the tail got here badly.

Anna reached out to me in October of last year after I’d commented that I was sad a pretty tail had sold out. She said she was starting out in the tail-making business, and was looking for someone to pay for materials cost so she could have the practice and pictures of a completed partial silicone tail to show. She was outsourcing a lot of the steps to people like Aquatails and Fancy Fish, so I was pretty confident that she was taking on a reasonable chunk of work for a new artist.

So Thanksgiving comes by, materials are coming in, everything’s looking good. By Christmas I’m showing my cousins pictures of the painted tail, and it looks great! Then on into February I’m having to poke her on the regular for status updates, which is about what I expected since she was a student, but she says the first layer of silicone is on, and maybe we want to do flesh colored scales around the top to blend it all together? It sounded pretty reasonable, so I paid her for more materials and she sent me some pictures of samples, but ultimately decided to get them from another artist. I was thrilled she was working on the tail.

She was radio silent for a while after that until she messaged me to tell me she was deleting all her social media accounts in April. I suspected that if she was incommunicado I would never get my tail, so I told her that I was reasonably confident I could fix it myself and she could send it along, because hey, it only needs another layer of silicone and scales cut into it right? How hard can that be?

I paid her for shipping, only to be told that she didn’t have time to ship it before she left on a 2 week vacation. I’ll admit, I was pretty nervous at that point that I wouldn’t hear from her again, but she did ship it a few days after she got back. While it was in transit, Brit got her tail with all the silicone curing issues so I got to wait and see what would show up on May 5.

It was consistent with Brit’s issues with the silicone peeling away from the neoprene and the gross, sticky feel of not properly cured silicone, with the added bonus of dirt and hair cured into my silicone layer. Also, little specs of octagonal blue glitter on everything in the box, including embedded in the tail’s silicone. Not in an ‘applied to the tail’ kind of way, just in a ‘did not clean the craft herpes from your workstation’ kind of way. As soon as it got there, I reached out to her with pictures. At first she tried to start a fight, telling me that it wasn’t possible, blaming dirt getting into the box during shipping, and accusing me of peeling off the silicone layer myself.

For a while there, it looked like she was trying to find a way to fix it within her budget, but the solutions she offered just weren’t acceptable. I proposed a settlement, and she left me hanging for quite a while, probably thinking I was going to go away eventually, but once I gave her a 24 hour period to answer she finally opened the document, along with the bombshell that if I returned the tail to her to fix, she wouldn’t even start on it until September (not that she’d ever explained to me how she would if silicone isn’t adhering to the neoprene). We didn’t reach an agreement, but at least I have a solid answer: she’s unwilling to fix this in any kind of reasonable way.

If I were going to do this again, what would I change? I don’t think any of these things would ultimately have changed how this whole situation turned out, but I probably would have seen it coming a lot faster. I didn’t insist on a hard and fast timeline because I knew a lot of dates were dependent on other people and her ability to work on it was going to be dependent on school deadlines. I didn’t want to execute a new update to the contract every time the date had to slip, but in retrospect, I should have put up with the hassle. I also think that I should have insisted that she didn’t take on any other tails, or at least not paying commissioned work, until my tail was done. I wouldn’t recommend this with an established tail artist with a track record of delivering tails, but with a new artist whose stated goal was to work out her process I don’t think it’s an unreasonable request. Looking at the timelines, it seems like progress on my tail all but stopped once Anna started working on Brit’s tail. On a practical level, I’d also have the aquatails neoprene tail shipped directly to me to be altered, that would have saved me some worry.

I also wish Anna had tested her materials before jumping in. Because she didn’t test the neoprene/paint/silicone arrangement, she’d invested a lot of time and money before the problems in her process became apparent. More than anything, I wish she was less combative when I got the tail and my fears about its condition were confirmed.

All in all, I’m not as bad off as I could be. The fluke and fins by fancy fish are in good shape, and I can put them on another tail. I’ve been channeling my energy into making my own tail, which should be fun. I plan on livestreaming it over Twitch, so maybe check it out. It’s my first time doing a lot of the steps, so you’ll probably get to see me fail at least once. We’ll probably also have mermaid chat going along with a colorful cast of characters, and you are welcome to stop by and share your own stories and advice.

Pictures to follow:

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AniaR
06-02-2018, 08:47 PM
I think Anna very strategically and manipulatively tries to do things that seem nice for others in order to balance out this stuff. So some people don't feel safe coming forward, because they feel like she's done them something nice and it would be rude to say something.

BlueCorvidae
06-03-2018, 12:07 AM
And I'm going to be honest, there's a sale in classifieds that has all of her trademark keywords, "Authentic" precious metals or stones, pointing out how much the seller spent on making it vs how much they're selling it for, etc. I just looked and it seems like that person has been banned already.

So can we get a mod to confirm if SalemMermaidTrials is a sockpuppet of Anna's or nah?

AniaR
06-03-2018, 12:22 AM
if a mod banned her, it's because she's a known IP address of Anna

WNCmermaid
06-03-2018, 06:49 PM
~First let me start by saying that i DID get my money back, no thanks to Anna. I was lucky enough to have the support of the mermaid community and went straight through paypal and cut off all contact with crazy. She tried contacting me through a friend and offered to "fix" the tail and send me another finfolk or other covered in whatever she calls silicone. I told said friend that I wanted nothing from her and that if I wanted to ruin a perfectly good tail then I would buy my own when she gave me my money back!
~Second I want to apologize for how long it has taken me to get this information up here as I am still learning.
~Third THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING MER_MAZING!!!
Anyway, that being said I want to share my story here for everyone so this will not happen to anyone else...
So it all started when I created a facebook page just for fun because let's face it, that's how all the greats start right!?! The name of this page must have gotten her attention because it was only a week or so and there she was....
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/duco1snz9magf9x/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/duco1snz9magf9x/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/duco1snz9magf9x/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/duco1snz9magf9x/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png?dl=0
She prayed on the fact that I was new and had been looking for a tail for so long. Unable to get one because of the big cost in one chunk she happily took my payments, little did I know what I was sending payments for. She talked like she was friends with a well known tail maker and that she would get tips from him for my splash inspired tail. She also spoke of molds for scales and sent me pictures of different kinds saying she had a mold for one and would have to make one for the other. She talked like she had been at this for a long time! When i asked for photos of some of her past work she would say she was away from the computer or that her friend had them if she even answered the question at all. The whole process made me so uncomfortable but I had 2 other mers telling me she was trust worthy so I proceeded. I continued sending payments with the hope that a beautiful tail would be the outcome, I even tried to google her name several times and nothing came up! I stalked as much of her social media as I could but found nothing.
So the 3-4 week turn around she had originally told me about was beyond passed and she had had no contact with me in weeks, I started to blow up every person that I had a contact for that I knew had a contact for her including her "business partner" she always responded I will give her that much. eventually someone got a hold of her and she replied to me apologizing to me for the delay but making no effort to fix it in any way. At least we are back on track some what at this point...
Next issue, she sends me a picture of the updated work and the fins I had asked to be put on the hips were hanging around on the ankles! Oh well "Ooops my bad, I will fix it if you pay for more fins" She said she had sewn them on already and well me being this far into it I said whatever I have to do to finish and get my tail by my scheduled photo shoot for mothers day (my hubs had paid for makeup, venue, photographer, the works!) So she ordered half of what she should have and glued them on the hips so they couldn't flop and called it done. Well My deadline was her first excuse, she had to give everything time to cure and I made her rush it. Needless to say I missed the photo shoot!
She then gave me the whole bit about how she had to go to ups instead of the normal place she sends so she hopes they send it right and the reason she charged so much for shipping was for the insurance and for the packaging. She was sure to include that she let ups package the tail so if it arrives incorrect or messed up that I should take photos and let her know immediately so she can get the money from the insurance and "fix" it. (A scam on top of another scam) Well this thing arrived a hot mess!! The pictures don't do it justice! It is disgusting!! The fins that she put some nasty orange paint over and supposedly sewed on peeled off with little to no effort. {https://www.dropbox.com/s/yf6yora31kf0p2j/video-1528060933.mp4?dl=0} I will say she did put a Finis Wave in it which was surprisinghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/duco1snz9magf9x/Screenshot_2018-05-15-23-10-11%20%281%29.png?dl=0!! She of course blamed ups and tried to play that game but I am not stupid and I also had an amazing support system (the mer-community) silicone does not melt and scales should not be drawn on with sharpie! I am now making my own tail because she scared me from ordering something so specific to me I will not let her get me down I will turn this negative into a positive!! I also know this isn't everything but I will update as I can I've been at this for hours now haha :lol:
Here are links to the mess she sent me...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3oyzrrh08diw5l/34175972_1677342182385245_6242604951780982784_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsh3yh52omvhs95/34190318_1677342612385202_552280017707466752_n.jpg ?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/57wtzpqr1ux8tdw/34193415_1677341752385288_4656988075040178176_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddb49ie7kcdtv89/34268578_1677341945718602_5789677522018893824_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mamo22m9spflqfg/34268887_1677342019051928_2373820126622384128_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1707fbsvkx081xj/34274720_1677342379051892_7825134309676679168_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkwurf420ho2glf/34278648_1677342805718516_6786698010202996736_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/itnvyvh7rdr4c5u/34319179_1677341349051995_5195628324587569152_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rmzu3azn4hnrcn0/34344575_1677341625718634_853606870131146752_n.jpg ?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0klsqtoqloc5dao/34369719_1677342482385215_7896672045168066560_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xsobx4kckep3s5e/34382079_1677341669051963_1144181259044388864_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4y0p63d8nvbf56/34386223_1677341805718616_6700141744740106240_n.jp g?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6xaxgnzu2z01bf/34418506_1677342325718564_131111861054603264_n.jpg ?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubeflvg08s1zl2k/34449072_1677341355718661_3626485915897036800_n.jp g?dl=0
And what it was sent in...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uyzm49tmj6759uz/34441762_1677342849051845_7370509049277710336_n.jp g?dl=0

BlueCorvidae
06-03-2018, 08:38 PM
Anna isn't in the Finfolk Pod Squad anymore. I think she deleted her facebook, so we'll probably have to be on the lookout for other aliases she could be trying to use.

AniaR
06-03-2018, 10:34 PM
she's been removed from most groups

BlueCorvidae
06-03-2018, 11:22 PM
she's been removed from most groups
So I'm going to point out the fact that people keep giving her a lot of money even when she's pretending to be a new and relatively unknown seller. Sure she's a blatant scammer, but people are falling for it anyway. EVEN IF they start wising up and not buying from anyone they know is Anna, that's not going to stop them from falling for her sock accounts. They haven't done their research before, why would they start now?

So I'm going to stand by what I said; Anna already made a new account to ban-evade and sell her garbage on the mernetwork. Even if she's been removed from groups or straight up deleted her facebook, odds are she'll just be back with a new account and a fake name. So be on the lookout for potential socks on facebook and other social media.

Ransom
06-04-2018, 01:54 AM
Wow. This has to be the world's crappiest game of Whack-a-Mole.

I'd say the best thing to advise new mers would be to look out for red flags -- things like no photos of the actual items, lack of a track record (and her constant excuses that she couldn't send pics of her work) and shoddy-quality stuff in other shops.

If in doubt, the wider community will know more... though it's best to consult them before you've paid up, not after.

Any other thoughts?

Unfortunately all the scams are also making it much harder for legit entrants into the market :(

Arking
06-04-2018, 02:22 AM
I was considering using caulk on neoprene after seeing some other threads using it. Marinus Mortimer had some amazing work I recalled seeing that gave me the idea. Seeing this has me second guessing whether I should do that. @_@ This is a nightmare scenario, it looks milky and not cured.

gay-mermaid.memory
06-04-2018, 03:55 AM
I was considering using caulk on neoprene after seeing some other threads using it. Marinus Mortimer had some amazing work I recalled seeing that gave me the idea. Seeing this has me second guessing whether I should do that. @_@ This is a nightmare scenario, it looks milky and not cured.

i dont know what she is using but it sure isnt 100% silicone caulk. either she is mixing something into it that affects curing or it is something else entirely that she is passing off as silicone.

LaenaMarsh
06-04-2018, 05:59 AM
i dont know what she is using but it sure isnt 100% silicone caulk. either she is mixing something into it that affects curing or it is something else entirely that she is passing off as silicone.You could always do a test swatch... Take a square foot of neoprene, paint it with the paint you're going to use, and apply the silicone you want. Then at least you'll know what it will do.

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Mermaid Jaffa
06-04-2018, 07:28 AM
Looks like either PVA glue or hot glue.

LaenaMarsh
06-04-2018, 08:54 AM
If we were making a betting pool, I would drop a dollar on silicone with too much part A mixed in, so it didn't cure right. But short of sending it to a lab there's probably no way to tell. Having an example to poke at, I would say it's not hot glue- it's sticky, like silicone while it's curing.

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gay-mermaid.memory
06-04-2018, 09:25 AM
If we were making a betting pool, I would drop a dollar on silicone with too much part A mixed in, so it didn't cure right. But short of sending it to a lab there's probably no way to tell. Having an example to poke at, I would say it's not hot glue- it's sticky, like silicone while it's curing.

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from what ive seen of anna browne, i cannot imagine her buying something as expensive as dragonskin silicone

BlueCorvidae
06-04-2018, 10:03 AM
I think the way to go about this is to never but from a silicone tail seller that hasn't made a tail before. It's not unfair, how can a tailmaker make promises and take money if they don't know their own skill yet? If a new tailmaker shows you a silicone tail that looks great, make sure it's not a stolen photo.

Odds are, if somebody is new to the market and wants to start selling silicone tails, they've probably made their OWN tails first, and have pictures of themselves in it. Look for those and make sure the craftmanship is up to your standards.

...Or just keep in mind that Anna makes sockpuppets, and buy from sellers you already know.

WNCmermaid
06-04-2018, 10:30 AM
i dont know what she is using but it sure isnt 100% silicone caulk. either she is mixing something into it that affects curing or it is something else entirely that she is passing off as silicone.

My first thought was she is just using part A because she did send a picture of just the one bucket to someone.

LaenaMarsh
06-04-2018, 11:00 AM
My first thought was she is just using part A because she did send a picture of just the one bucket to someone.Now that I would believe.

I genuinely think she thinks she has taste and creates quality, which is why she explodes whenever she is presented with evidence to the contrary. Also why she has such a hate-on for Finfolk: they actually are tasteful and quality.

And you really need dragonskin for quality.

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AniaR
06-04-2018, 11:38 AM
So I'm going to stand by what I said; Anna already made a new account to ban-evade and sell her garbage on the mernetwork. Even if she's been removed from groups or straight up deleted her facebook, odds are she'll just be back with a new account and a fake name. So be on the lookout for potential socks on facebook and other social media.

that account was banned. if you see others, let Iona know so she can IP check them.

AniaR
06-04-2018, 11:39 AM
My first thought was she is just using part A because she did send a picture of just the one bucket to someone.

Anna always keeps manipulative images to try and prove her lies. So I don't think she's making tails out of dragonskin, she may have bought one of the small tester buckets and just keeps sending the pics.

She bought flukes and fins from Fancy Fish and pretends she made them

Ransom
06-04-2018, 12:22 PM
Wow. That's the kind of creativity I can't help but salute... and wish was used for better things than scamming [emoji58]

Keiris
06-04-2018, 02:33 PM
Ha! Ransom, you're right. It is amazing to think that if all that effort was actually put into creating and concentrating on honing one's skill, how much better she might possibly be at this point. However, some people just plainly are NOT destined to be artists because they simply have no talent.

Dancing Fish
06-04-2018, 03:54 PM
Well, add me to the list now, I guess.

Anna purchased several things from my Etsy under a false name, reported my shop to Etsy because I was running late (though my shop had an announcement that orders were taking up to 4 weeks), and caused me a lot of stress during my finals week (I'm a professor) with her messages under the false name while sending nice messages under her public name. I also took a chance back in April and ordered a monofin from her that never arrived. Sigh. There's more, but I want to respect privacy so I'm only posting what I can prove. The moderator is welcome to PM me for my evidence.

I don't like to make such things public, but I am doing so here because it follows exactly the pattern that the previous posts have indicated (multiple accounts, playing both sides, harassing Etsy shop owners, etc.). Anna was very nice to me up until recently, when another Etsy source for sew-on silicone fins became available.

Nerdmaid Faith
06-04-2018, 05:15 PM
As some of you may know I've also tried my hand at Etsy to some moderate success. Anna was one of my first customers (making me go Yikes due to her pattern of purchasing things and then leaving crap reviews) but I went ahead and sent them to her anyways as she has always been 'nice' to me. *cough suckup* As I suspected she didn't leave a 5 star review but I knew she really couldn't touch me. Then my shop got hit with some bad times and she said that she'll boost her review to bring up the score which was nice, along with some of her "experienced Etsy knowledge". I was getting that from my good *real* friends at VirtuoSew but thanks.

Flash forward to the terrible events that went down with that splash tail. I left a few comments stating my dissapointment with her, nothing extreme, just that I was sad that she has not changed her ways. Then what do you know, that SAME DAY she edits her review score again to be much lower and meaner. Okaaaay pal.

You all should know that I have been aware (and wary) of her from the start, I think from that first "Mermaid Movie Campaign". I was suspicious due to her lack of filmmaking proof and YouTube channel filled with uncut vertical videos. She did end up coming to a few of my pod meetups as she has family over the border and unfortunately left a bad taste in the mouths of a few of our members. I have not seen her in person since October and don't plan on letting her come to any more of our meets.

In summary, most of my dealings with her over the past yearish have been polite but uneasy. She knows she really can't go after me with no justification so I feel safe publicly stating my total mistrust in her.

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AniaR
06-04-2018, 07:32 PM
I forgot about the Mermaid Movie Campaign

AniaR
06-05-2018, 12:34 PM
I was working on a blog post yesterday about avoiding scammers and was googling the known list of scammers. I swear there is one SOMEWHERE but I can't find it. It has Adam Martyn etc on it. (if anyone finds it let me know)

Anyway, while searching I found this: https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/600461.html

Someone from mernetwork probably put it on there. It's like a 4chan style forum. Someone found a LOT of extra proof. I went on and asked them to post any more they have but got banned. LOL apparently that broke their rules. (none that I could find) and got me a threat from someone who clearly is from here lol But THAT ASIDE. There's some really interesting additional links and screen shots there.
I never even saw half this stuff, the tweeting at Etsy- good lord. Claiming her ex was a MURDERER???

Arking
06-05-2018, 01:59 PM
Lovely.

Some of those personal attacks about her poetry and the body shaming take this too far. There's a line between providing information and bullying and it's fair to say the anonymous person who posted that to Lolcow crossed that line.

I understand and support the idea of warning people about the financial risks involved but it makes me uncomfortable knowing that someone from this forum or at least watching this forum feels entitled to perpetuate that kind of dialogue. Whomever it is should consider reading Raina's blog post on scamming, it's a far better way to engage and inform people without resorting to personal attacks.

SirenCyrus
06-05-2018, 02:30 PM
by the by, the 'rules' you broke on /lolcow/ is identifying yourself in the first place. the forum is 100% meant to be anon. they call it 'exposing your power level'. in other words, unless you have proof yourself to submit, lurking is the only way to garner information.

yes, its a cruel system, but 4chan, reddit, kiwifarms, E.D, has always been like this. keep following the posts, just don't post yourself.

also, yes. this is bullying. plain and simple, you need proof of how this effects people, look at what they did to Chirstine Weston Chandler. these forums are meant to create a sadistic self destructive environment where people get their kicks off of inhumanizing their targets.

still, it as evil as it is, it is still the best place to get receipts of horrific conduct. despite the venom of these cites, there is still yet good that can be gleaned from them.

LaenaMarsh
06-05-2018, 02:51 PM
It's unfortunate that's the page that's trending in Google search results for Anna Browne instead of this one. There's enough speculation and irrelevant insults there that she might be able to convince a potential client that none of it is true and keep on scamming.

Drama communities are fascinating from a sociological perspective, but I wouldn't want to get all up in there. Hopefully any new mers follow the links and find those of us with hard proof.

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SirenCyrus
06-05-2018, 03:02 PM
ohh man, there is no way you can convince a smart buyer that the stuff on kiwifarms is fake. even if there is a lot of theory crafting, proof will always be bumped. and it is 100% unabridged. if there is a lolcow page about you you are pretty much fluked. best chance of avoiding it is avoiding the internet, because they also always find you if you reinvent yourself. these people literally have nothing better to do.

AniaR
06-05-2018, 03:21 PM
by the by, the 'rules' you broke on /lolcow/ is identifying yourself in the first place. the forum is 100% meant to be anon. they call it 'exposing your power level'. in other words, unless you have proof yourself to submit, lurking is the only way to garner information.

So why the heck do they have an actual name field in their comments? LOL. Why not make it anon by default. Or even an anon check box. The way it looks, you're supposed to pick a name lol. (I know that's not up to you to answer, just pointing out the obviously stupid lol)


It's unfortunate that's the page that's trending in Google search results for Anna Browne instead of this one. There's enough speculation and irrelevant insults there that she might be able to convince a potential client that none of it is true and keep on scamming.

This thread is so new it's not indexed by google very well yet. I think it'll get up there. I actually found lolcow by searching "mernetwork scammer list" and it was the top hit! We used to have a scammer list here, but I can't find it. So I tried google. no luck. I am wondering if it was moved. I wasnt even searching Anna, TBH she uses so many fake names I never bothered googling her lol.

While I totally agree the body shaming etc is not needed, I did find some of the posts from her illustrated her behaviour. A few people who reached out to me told me how caught off guard they were by it and I think these are perfect examples of it...


ohh man, there is no way you can convince a smart buyer that the stuff on kiwifarms is fake. even if there is a lot of theory crafting, proof will always be bumped. and it is 100% unabridged.

Yes one of another old scammers Kanti- had a bunch of proof show up there. We had issues with her here and then someone found a thread and realized she'd pulled the same scams on a bunch of other communities. :(

LaenaMarsh
06-05-2018, 04:38 PM
So why the heck do they have an actual name field in their comments? LOL. Why not make it anon by default. Or even an anon check box. The way it looks, you're supposed to pick a name lol. (I know that's not up to you to answer, just pointing out the obviously stupid lol)
:(

That's where the fascinating sociology comes in... The newbs mess up, people point it out, over time you become the pointer rather than the pointee and then you're entrenched in the community.

Not my bag, but whatever. If it keeps other people from buying a spooge tail it's a net positive.


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BlueCorvidae
06-05-2018, 10:10 PM
JFC Raina. I respect you and all, but why would you post something with your professional name attached to it on a forum like that in the first place?

SirenCyrus
06-05-2018, 11:19 PM
Yes one of another old scammers Kanti- had a bunch of proof show up there. We had issues with her here and then someone found a thread and realized she'd pulled the same scams on a bunch of other communities. :(

right. apologies, i forgot not all of us were born with an ethernet connection. glad there are threads here to try and look out for the less internet literate.

AniaR
06-06-2018, 09:56 AM
JFC Raina. I respect you and all, but why would you post something with your professional name attached to it on a forum like that in the first place?

I just make a habit of not hiding behind anonymity. My name has always been my online handle as well, loooooooong before my career. (Hit reddit gold and the front page a few times too ;) ) Plus my thinking at the time of posting (I mean it had a name field. lol) is that there were obviously community members in there and maybe if people found stuff they'd send it my way to add to the file. oh well. I'm not bothered/worried.

BlueCorvidae
06-06-2018, 10:49 AM
I just make a habit of not hiding behind anonymity. My name has always been my online handle as well, loooooooong before my career. (Hit reddit gold and the front page a few times too ;) ) Plus my thinking at the time of posting (I mean it had a name field. lol) is that there were obviously community members in there and maybe if people found stuff they'd send it my way to add to the file. oh well. I'm not bothered/worried.
I'd be careful about those places in the future. Not only can they turn on you if they decide they don't like you, but people who aren't fans of these places will wonder why you're posting on a bullying site. There really isn't anything to be gained.

AniaR
06-06-2018, 11:32 AM
I'd be careful about those places in the future. Not only can they turn on you if they decide they don't like you, but people who aren't fans of these places will wonder why you're posting on a bullying site. There really isn't anything to be gained.

thanks for the heads up. I admittedly knew nothing about the site. lol I was more thinking about preventing more fraud and scamming!

WNCmermaid
06-06-2018, 10:26 PM
Oh my this whole thing was interesting! What a psycho I never thought it would be so much craziness when I got suckered into purchasing a tail before I was ready. My DIY silicone tail is almost done on a happy note (made with silicone I bought with my refund from "scam tail"

LaenaMarsh
06-07-2018, 08:38 PM
Quick update!

She shut down the Esty linked above and started another one here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/FishWishCavern

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Mermaid Jaffa
06-08-2018, 03:35 AM
Lame. Etsy can't ban the user account so she can't make anymore shops?

Ransom
06-08-2018, 05:54 AM
Lame. Etsy can't ban the user account so she can't make anymore shops?There's nothing stopping her from simply setting up another user account, unfortunately. There's a reason why scammers are so hard to put down.

Mermaidsh
06-08-2018, 09:48 AM
The Anna Browne cone of drama is strong. I had posted on the Mermaid Mania tail scam post having seen one of the tails she "upgraded" in person. Anna didn't like my opinion and here's how that went:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2liwwo7.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/o8a23s.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/wguik0.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ifn574.png

http://i63.tinypic.com/zu2sr5.png

After her last comment she either blocked more our deactivated her account again. Anna sent emails to the pod admin saying that she didn't feel safe If I attend any events. I'm soft as a powder puff and twice as gentle. I never threatened Anna, and outside of meeting her once in person and the Facebook messages we didn't have any other contact. So, yeah...even if she doesn't sell you bad merch, she's still not very nice.

LaenaMarsh
06-08-2018, 10:47 AM
The Anna Browne cone of drama is strong. I had posted on the Mermaid Mania tail scam post having seen one of the tails she "upgraded" in person. Anna didn't like my opinion and here's how that went:

http://i68.tinypic.com/2liwwo7.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/o8a23s.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/wguik0.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ifn574.png

http://i63.tinypic.com/zu2sr5.png

After her last comment she either blocked more our deactivated her account again. Anna sent emails to the pod admin saying that she didn't feel safe If I attend any events. I'm soft as a powder puff and twice as gentle. I never threatened Anna, and outside of meeting her once in person and the Facebook messages we didn't have any other contact. So, yeah...even if she doesn't sell you bad merch, she's still not very nice.First thought... Something in your formatting is breaking every other image or so, but the thread is still followable.

Second... She told me in February she was deleting Facebook and wouldn't be reachable that way, so I'm surprised she was using it in May. Makes me suspect that she knew my tail was borked back then.

Third... She's still organizing meetups? That's probably how she's soliciting commissions.

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Arking
06-08-2018, 11:54 AM
Not to be her advocate in that specific engagement but she actually does write quite well and doesn't come across as overly defensive or aggressive. Even the back and forth between the conversations it seems like she's trying to suss out whether the event she's organized is going to be an uncomfortable place for her, and for the other mermaid whom has vocalized her disagreements.

Granted both seem to want to avoid drama but I see nothing wrong with Anna being clear that one of the events is one she is not only attending but put together. It's a public event to be sure, but her work is behind setting it up and it's not something she's going to want to walk away from if another mermaid decides to come in and start policing how she engages with others, or potentially starts to spread information she feels is hurting her in any way. There's no saying the other mermaid would do that, but if Anna does solicit commissions in-person there's reason to believe the other mermaid would want to warn others.

I'm not saying the other mermaid should have to give up her plans, but if she does actually have disagreements with Anna and is engaging in spreading information warning others about her bad business practices and fraudulent behavior, going to her events is probably not the greatest use of her time. At worse it can look like passive aggressive harassment, at best just unwise albeit uninvested fraternization. Go for now, maybe talk to other mermaids and try to get an idea of communication channels and means to setup other events if need be, but I'd not go chasing Anna's tail or swim in her waters if there are going to be disagreements. To put it simply, sometimes boycotting does work.

For comparison my old work hosts public events, we left on amicable terms but I'm well aware that certain individuals there did not like me and spread rumors about me behind my back after it became common knowledge they were doing things that could get them into legal trouble. Likewise those same individuals and others make me feel uncomfortable because of that behavior, yet their events are well attended even by my friends as they are public and for members of a marginalized community for which I am a part of. Yet I abstain from going to avoid further discomfort on my part and a desire to not engage or encounter those persons. I get that by not going it looks like I'm only hurting myself, but in this case I do organize my own events and choose to support other orgs and individuals who are a bit more forthright in their practice.

Mermaidsh
06-08-2018, 02:06 PM
For clarification, the event Anna set up was a public meet up for the entire pod, but it was not her event. She created the Facebook event, but was not the organizer or the admin. When she thought I would confront her in person, she presented me as a bully to the actual admins because I wanted to still attend an open meet up when she thought I shouldn't. I didn't go chasing Anna, we were both attending the event and until the scam tail issues, didn't have a problem with me.

I ended up not attending the event with the advice and coaching from our pods admin when they researched Anna's track record. Anna also didn't attend and said she was retiring from mermaiding for awhile because she was leaving the country.


First thought... Something in your formatting is breaking every other image or so, but the thread is still followable.

Do you know how to fix images when they do that? On my end it still looks complete. I don't post to forums often. I can't even get the quote thing to work.

AniaR
06-09-2018, 12:41 AM
Lame. Etsy can't ban the user account so she can't make anymore shops?

I think if enough people report it, she'll get an ip ban

AniaR
06-09-2018, 12:47 AM
FEW THINGS.

1) deactivating your account does mean someone who has NEVER MESSAGED YOU BEFORE can't find you to send you a message. So yes, it does deactivate your messenger.

2) The mermaid mania mods have told me anna has been using alt accounts to spy in the group and also having friends report back with screenshots (I've asked them to post here but they havent yet)

3) if Anna feels so strongly all of these screencaps and photos are slander, they lawyer up woman. Making legal threats when you actually can't, is called legally bullying, and unsurprisingly, is illegal. I'm so tired of mermaids who threaten this stuff when they're the ones actually breaking the law. she's not the first and wont be the last to try and pull this shit and get shut down.

4) Britt owes Anna nothing, she can cut and run after the crap she got.

5) wasn't this woman moving like, yesterday, to live in a monastery?

6) Anna can't stop anyone from attending a public event.

7) this woman has been caught in so many lies we do not owe her anything. You don't have to assume the best, you honestly don't This is a scammer. we've proven that time and time again. it's time for her to leave the community.

LaenaMarsh
06-09-2018, 12:32 PM
An update to my story:

Yesterday I opened a letter from the post office telling me to bring all packaging to my local post office for inspection, because Anna had filed an insurance claim with USPS (mernetwork won't let me upload the letter). The nearest post office to my house is only open Monday through Friday, so I went to the next nearest one, where the supervisor told me that 1) that damage was definitely not the post office, but 2) the claim can only be processed at the post office on the letter.

So now I have to take off work to deal with this crap.

Also, this thread is basically public, so I assumed she was reading it. I doubt she actually went to a monastery, but I kind of hope she did.

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PhaylennMurúch
06-09-2018, 02:06 PM
I wonder how much she insured it for. Probably 3X what it's worth
If she gets caught doing this she could very well face jail time because insurance fraud on the post office is like a federal offense

AniaR
06-10-2018, 10:03 PM
what a psycho I cannot even BELIEVE this, it's like her way of punishing you for demanding a refund. I'm sorry

Mermaid Whisper
06-10-2018, 10:29 PM
I understand you're all really upset with the situation and it is absolutely justified, but the use of "psycho" as an insult/derogatory term only contributes to the stigma around and the demonization of genuinely psychotic people.

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AniaR
06-11-2018, 11:11 AM
psycho = short for psychopath not psychotic.

from dictionary:
noun

noun: psycho; plural noun: psychos


1.
a psychopath.

adjective
adjective: psycho


1.
psychopathic.


I am observing that Anna's behaviour is psychopathic which isn't to be confused with someone experience a psychotic delusion. Traditionally, psycho has always been short for psyhopathic- not short for psychotic or psychosis. I don't believe Anna is experiencing psychosis. I can't armchair diagnose anyone either, but I can draw parallels in her behavior. Which absolutely seems psychopathic in nature.


The signs and symptoms of psychopathy are identified most commonly in scientific studies by Hare's 20-item Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. This checklist identifies the following as the symptoms and signs of psychopathy:




Superficial charm and glibness - Evident in nearly all of her posts
Inflated sense of self-worth - Often openly brags
Constant need for stimulation - an example of this would be her constant interaction with the community despite "quitting it" and being banned
Lying pathologically - that one is fairly obvious
Conning others; being manipulative - fairly obvious
Lack of remorse or guilt - again, fairly obvious
Shallow emotions - seems shallow to me!
Callousness; lack of empathy - clearly has no empathy for the people she scams but can fake it when need be
Using others (a parasitic lifestyle) - using people in the community (a good example is her buying fancy fish designs and passing off as her own)
Poor control over behavior - think that's obvious
Promiscuous sexual behavior - can't comment on this other than how she tried to lure an autistic community member and then label him a mervert
Behavioral problems early in life - she makes a lot of public claims about these but we can't judge
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Being impulsive - I think her replies clearly demonstrate this
Being irresponsible - same
Blaming others and refusing to accept responsibility - obvious
Having several marital relationships - n/a
Delinquency when young = unknown
Revocation of conditional release - puts a lot of conditions on others who try to resolve
Criminal acts in several realms (criminal versatility) - scamming and fraud is criminal


To be a psychopath one only has to meet some of these, but as you can see we can demonstrate clear examples just from her interactions with the community for most. Psychopathic is a clear description of her behaviours as laid out here.

A good summary of the issues can also be found here:

https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/psychopathic-symptoms-spotting-the-symptoms-of-a-psychopath



A lack of guilt – spot this symptom when a psychopath does something that hurts another and feels no remorse about it.
A lack of empathy and compassion – spot this psychopathic symptom when the psychopath fails to understand or identify with the pain of others.
Narcissism – watch for an inflated sense of self and only caring about the self (more on the narcissistic psychopath (https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths)).
Superficial charm – look for a charming personality that always seems to say the right things but whose actions likely don't match the words.


Dishonesty – while a psychopath may try to charm his or her way out of a lie, look out for them, nonetheless.

Manipulativeness – this psychopathic symptom can be used in conjunction with any other to try and make the psychopath appear like other, non-psychopathic, people.
Reckless risk-taking – spot this symptom when the psychopath takes big risks with no regards to the consequences on himself/herself or others.



I thought by using the term it was self evident the meaning and the intent, so I apologize that it didn't come across that way and you found it to be derogatory. I will work on that. But I still believe it to be an accurate observation, especially given this latest attempt at insurance fraud that seems to be a response to being held accountable.

Arking
06-11-2018, 11:21 AM
Man I've got number 2. , 15. and 13. down to an art form! I'm working on 11, but that's probably falling into number 13 again. ;) How many does one need to qualify?

AniaR
06-11-2018, 01:16 PM
Lol it's totally normal for anyone to have them pop up from time to time, or even to have some of them permanently. (hello my adhd makes me #3!) but the test is done on a scale of each item being a 0-1-2-3 depending on the severity, several times in a year, in conjunction with other assessments. So I obviously can't assess Miss Anna lol.

But I do think the act of retaliation by filing false insurance claims def falls under a psyhopathic behaviour, especially when you see it in conjunction to everything else she's doing and the death threats to others etc. and in all honesty, people SHOULD be scared of her behaviour and protect themselves.

LaenaMarsh
06-11-2018, 04:07 PM
Insurance claim update: after going to three post offices over two days, I'm finally informed that they can't forward anything to the claims office if I don't have the box. Since Anna and I were talking days before and days after she filed the claim and didn't see fit to tell me that she filed it, I recycled the shipping box.

Gonna send a nice letter to the claims inspector about the situation, though.

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AniaR
06-11-2018, 04:22 PM
man that's frustrating. Are there any negative repercussions on you? If you're sending the letter, I would be sure to include some of the proof of her other scams such as the avon one etc.

LaenaMarsh
06-11-2018, 04:26 PM
I'll include a link to the thread. I was only planning on including pics of the other tail in addition to mine, since it had similar issues and was shipped via UPS. That's direct "these tails were screwed when they went in the box" evidence, whereas the Avon scam is less relevant.

If you got any back channel stories with similar tails that haven't made it up yet, if it's appropriate you can ping me with details to include.

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deepblue
06-11-2018, 07:23 PM
But I do think the act of retaliation by filing false insurance claims def falls under a psyhopathic behaviour, especially when you see it in conjunction to everything else she's doing and the death threats to others etc. and in all honesty, people SHOULD be scared of her behaviour and protect themselves.

Absolutely. I've been following this thread, and she's obv not a well person.

Anna's behaviour is clearly more than just problematic, and anyone can see that with or without any kind of professional training or education. We can all assess how people interact, no one needs to be a professional or have a psych education to see there is something clearly wrong there. I truly hope she finds herself in a real psychiatric eval for, both for herself and for everyone she is causing to suffer. Either she isn't responsible for her actions because she's mentally too far gone, or she does know and doesn't care or has convinced herself otherwise. She's not going to stop, if she even knows how to stop hurting people at this point.

Since her crimes and theft take place online, anyone in the US who's dealt with her might want to report fraud here: https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx/

And consider reporting her to the US Postal Inspector if she's using the mail system in her crimes: https://ehome.uspis.gov/fcsexternal/default.aspx

Thing is, even if they can't do anything yet, the more people who report her the better, so that her name will be in a database in case someone's actually able to go after her in court, or when she ends up getting herself arrested for the federal offense of mail insurance fraud, she'll be there. Corroborating testimony is helpful.

AniaR
06-12-2018, 09:18 AM
Excellent links deepblue, being as I am not American I had no idea but imma bookmark those for others too!

And thank you for your points and observations as well. I certainly do not want to hurt anyone with mental illness, but I also think we can't dance around the toxic behaviour we're seeing here and need to call it or nothing will change. You put it much more eloquently than I could!

Nerdmaid Faith
10-19-2018, 08:21 PM
Guys I have received contact from her, this is a warning that she is back.

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WNCmermaid
10-23-2018, 11:39 AM
Guys I have received contact from her, this is a warning that she is back.

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How is she contacting you? I was hoping she had shut down, is she trying to sell you a tail?

WNCmermaid
10-23-2018, 11:51 AM
For clarification, the event Anna set up was a public meet up for the entire pod, but it was not her event. She created the Facebook event, but was not the organizer or the admin. When she thought I would confront her in person, she presented me as a bully to the actual admins because I wanted to still attend an open meet up when she thought I shouldn't. I didn't go chasing Anna, we were both attending the event and until the scam tail issues, didn't have a problem with me.

I ended up not attending the event with the advice and coaching from our pods admin when they researched Anna's track record. Anna also didn't attend and said she was retiring from mermaiding for awhile because she was leaving the country.


First thought... Something in your formatting is breaking every other image or so, but the thread is still followable.

Do you know how to fix images when they do that? On my end it still looks complete. I don't post to forums often. I can't even get the quote thing to work.

Thats always her go to, when sue scammed me it was always" I have to do it by this time because im leaving the country"

WNCmermaid
10-23-2018, 11:53 AM
FEW THINGS.

1) deactivating your account does mean someone who has NEVER MESSAGED YOU BEFORE can't find you to send you a message. So yes, it does deactivate your messenger.

2) The mermaid mania mods have told me anna has been using alt accounts to spy in the group and also having friends report back with screenshots (I've asked them to post here but they havent yet)

3) if Anna feels so strongly all of these screencaps and photos are slander, they lawyer up woman. Making legal threats when you actually can't, is called legally bullying, and unsurprisingly, is illegal. I'm so tired of mermaids who threaten this stuff when they're the ones actually breaking the law. she's not the first and wont be the last to try and pull this shit and get shut down.

4) Britt owes Anna nothing, she can cut and run after the crap she got.

5) wasn't this woman moving like, yesterday, to live in a monastery?

6) Anna can't stop anyone from attending a public event.

7) this woman has been caught in so many lies we do not owe her anything. You don't have to assume the best, you honestly don't This is a scammer. we've proven that time and time again. it's time for her to leave the community.

thank you so much for thos Raina!!!

Nerdmaid Faith
11-01-2018, 11:46 AM
She contacted me 4 months after I had reached out, concerned about her scamming a member of my pod.

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PhaylennMurúch
11-02-2018, 01:28 PM
aww, and here I thought that we'd heard the last of the dreadful creature

LaenaMarsh
11-03-2018, 09:29 PM
She contacted me 4 months after I had reached out, concerned about her scamming a member of my pod.

Sent from my SM-A520W using TapatalkDo you get the impression she's trying to go back to scamming people? That's really the big issue here.

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Nerdmaid Faith
11-03-2018, 11:47 PM
Do you get the impression she's trying to go back to scamming people? That's really the big issue here.

Sent from my [device_name] using MerNetwork mobile appIt seems like shes trying to continue getting money from my and my pod members specific situation.

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LaenaMarsh
11-04-2018, 01:04 AM
It seems like shes trying to continue getting money from my and my pod members specific situation.

Sent from my SM-A520W using TapatalkWell, that's depressing.

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AniaR
11-15-2018, 11:06 PM
everyone is suddenly getting these messages....

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46310787_570286386760667_8024172298288234496_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=f0288acf6e9fd0d5b25fcd23d0aa147e&oe=5C8923A5

LaenaMarsh
11-15-2018, 11:13 PM
everyone is suddenly getting these messages....

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46310787_570286386760667_8024172298288234496_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=f0288acf6e9fd0d5b25fcd23d0aa147e&oe=5C8923A5I got one. Given that I've described everything here, I don't see any reason to reply to her.

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PhaylennMurúch
11-16-2018, 01:57 PM
same, got one yesterday. I've publicly said my piece. I don't feel like re-hashing it privately for her

AniaR
11-17-2018, 09:47 PM
She just used like 10 different alt accounts to exploit a 1 time discount code from finfolk, so I don't think she's changed that much. I suggest people just ignore this message from her and carry on.