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Kanti
05-13-2012, 02:30 PM
Anyone here have a model mayhem?
I made one a couple months ago but I didn't realize I had to approve
my profile and it seems minutes after it was approved I was being bombarded
with emails and questions regarding shoots, most of them for "nudes and erotics"
Now I'm a bit overwhelmed with all this. I dunno if half these people are legit or
not.

Does this happen often? Is it just a "first join" type of thing or will I continuously
get a spout of emails like this? It's a bit crazy o_o

Spindrift
05-13-2012, 02:58 PM
Isn't there a way to designate what kind of shoots you are interested in? Maybe?

AniaR
05-13-2012, 03:13 PM
yes it can go crazy :D but some are scams so be very very careful!!!!
I had a MM for my modelling only for years but deleted it recently, now I just have one only for mermaid stuff- I dont use it very often though to book anything. However with the one I used for non mer modelling I met some lifelong friends! :D

Kanti
05-13-2012, 08:32 PM
I don't mind doing nudes I don't quite know what erotica entails though.
I don't want to go to some place and end up being on the set of a porn scene.. Lol

I think I might cross off nudes and see what happens, cause it's a bit offsetting to
get that many requests for nude photos the second you join.
Also how do you tell if it's a scam? I'd assume they'd try to get you there alone or
take you to a place that's sketchy.

Sitre Seer Moroaica
05-13-2012, 08:54 PM
Nudes and Erotica is HUGE in the Modeling world and they NEVER go away. I never want to do nudes with photographers and even when I strictly say no they still ask. About 90% of the time they are taken either outside, in their houses or in Hotel rooms. Normally with nudity they really dont want escorts there and a lot of photographers refuse men to be escorts. They are all types of people who put up questions about scams and sexual harassment etc in the forums so I'd really look through the modeling section especially since your new to MM. Normally the scams I get are (We are working through a Clothing designer who picked you to model, We will send this amount of money to your address and send half of it the make up artist that we have chosen etc) The check is always a bad check and if you cash it within a few days it bounces and shit goes bad. I say work/find people on MM that are in your area ONLY and add those else where who you know. I usually friend my favorite clothing designers (if they have one) and I definitely friend a lot of people who live and/or travel to Colorado a lot.

If you get nude requests just delete it and move on.

Sitre Seer Moroaica
05-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Also Erotica is like Porn. It's usually is a photographer using a lot of angles and photographs your private parts really close and have your face blurred in the back or someone touching you explicitly or you touching yourself in certain areas either on the bed, in public, hotel rooms where ever. It's definitely NOT artistic nudity. I can give you loads of examples if you wish?

Kanti
05-13-2012, 08:58 PM
When you say "male escort" I assume you mean someone coming to the location with you, right?
Cause I wouldn't go ANYWHERE alone. I'd definitely bring my boyfriend with me, so if they say he
can't be on the set AT ALL then that'd definitely be something very fishy that I'd turn down and report.

I suppose the only "nude" I'd like to do is for a classroom where there are a lot of people present so
I wouldn't be caught alone with anyone or have to fear anything sketchy.

Sitre Seer Moroaica
05-13-2012, 09:42 PM
Yes any person who comes with you to a photo shoot is an escort. Also I'm gonna make this short, Not all the photographers are bad. Just because they don't allow your boyfriend doesn't mean they are trying to get in your pants. There are more reasons why they wont allow your boyfriend to come then you think. Examples? They could try and run the shoot and ruin it, they will try to control your posing or the boyfriend could become insanely jealous and yet again ruin it. Now I'm not saying YOUR boyfriend will do it but it happens and will repeatively happens and all they want is to get great photos, expand their's and your portfolio as well as have a good experience/shoot.

Now to report a photographer just because they wont allow your boyfriend? I'm sorry but I find that going a bit too far as well as rude and a lot of people will tell you on MM that you should stop modeling if you were to do that. Just because they refuse your boyfriend doesn't mean you HAVE to go alone. Normally I bring a friend that is a girl with me, sometimes my boyfriend comes and sometimes my dad and sometimes I know the photographer very well and is a good friend of mine so I ride with them alone.

Everyone has a personal preference but I would HATE to see a good photographers reputation be ruined because some girl assumed the worse and reported them when they have never had any issues. Every photographers has a right to say no as well as the model when it comes to a photo shoot but that does not mean you have to report them. That's like reporting you for saying no to nudity.

Now I have seen/heard of several stories if these girls going to photo shoots and strictly saying no nudity to the photographer and he decided to start demanding it and the girl went nude because she was tired of it. Seriously that happens. It happens to me all the time and that will also never go away. Just keep saying no or just ignore it. Never go nude unless you are ready.

Also my MM is: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1793064

AniaR
05-13-2012, 10:32 PM
Also how do you tell if it's a scam? I'd assume they'd try to get you there alone or
take you to a place that's sketchy.

If they ask you to pay any money in first contact, or if they try and convince you to pay for a modelling workshop generally. MM tries really hard to crack down but people create multiple accounts. There was a huge case of it in my city and the woman use MM and just was finally arrested after scamming a LOT of people


Also Erotica is like Porn.
thats not true, thats like saying "nude" is like porn. DeviantART has a very awesome erotica/fetish gallery. IN what I've been exposed to working in an art gallery for 8 years, and my time as a model/photographer, and using websites like deviantart and MM, erotica tends to focus on taboo sexual subjects- that doesn't mean it's porn. These sights don't allow porn and porn means putting a into b or showing fluids etc. Some of the most popular erotica works have no nudity and are more subjective or suggestive. Porn can certainly have elements of erotica but it's unfair to say erotica is like porn. It extends into traditional arts as well, not just photography. As in ANY art field there will always be people who do legit porn and pass it off, but it's a lot less than people assume.

Examples from DA fetish/erotica gallery: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs8/i/2005/310/7/2/your_favorite_color_by_suzi9mm.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs36/i/2008/255/c/f/Locked_by_armene.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs45/i/2009/101/5/a/Bondage_Ballet_by_johntisbury.jpg
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/335/9/7/Kitty_by_Klodi.jpg
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs39/PRE/f/2008/354/a/8/two_prostitutes_by_cellar_fcp.jpg (this is an insanely popular image, frequently shown on tumblr, from a book about erotic art)

well known artist George Steeves is also an excellent example of erotic work that is provocative and clearly not porn. Some of his images can be seen on google images, but most are online on art gallery catalogues like www.msvuart.ca (http://www.msvuart.ca)




Kanti, I think posing for drawing is great. And taking along someone with you so you feel safe is always good too- I have never heard of any photographer denying someone that right, legit modelling workshops and casting groups encourage it as well. I wouldn't jump right into photo modelling for nudity, but when you do decide to do it make sure you understand the model release forms you're signing and you know where the work is going to end up. Never work with anyone who refuses to make time to meet you and discuss first. I actually met with the nude photographer I work with the most several times. My boyfriend came to my first photoshoot with him but after that I was totally convinced and comfortable. Same with the other photographer I worked with. In both cases both men were able to give me many references, had many publications, and exhibited work.

No matter what or how legit someone seems, if you get bad vibes, then you got bad vibes! The one time I ignored my vibes I wish I didn't. The person met all my usual standards but just gave me a bad vibe and I was very regretful of working with them. Not because I was unsafe, but because of the way they portrayed me. Maybe taking off the nude thing for now until you get a feel for the site and some of the people. It's not like you can't approach someone if you'd like who you know does nude works.


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Normally with nudity they really dont want escorts there and a lot of photographers refuse men to be escorts.
if you don't do nudes, I dont think that's a fair statement to make at all.

Kanti
05-13-2012, 10:43 PM
Hmmm I probably won't be doing erotic then xD

Maybe, I have no idea the etiquette of these scenarios. Still, I see them telling me no male escorts as
threatening. A female can try to "take control" of a shoot in the same way a male would. If they do male
shoots would the same thing happen? Would they say "don't bring a female escort"? xD
Either way, I suppose I'll just avoid those, they seem strange to me and make me uncomfortable, regardless
of the reasoning behind it.
You're right though, I shouldn't report anyone, I just wouldn't go.
I'm sure you know more about it than me xD

Err... Also I dunno I'm starting to rethink it a bit. I don't mind the nudity that much but if I ever ran into a
photographer who kept pushing it after I already said no that'd be really rude.

AniaR
05-13-2012, 10:46 PM
if I ever ran into a
photographer who kept pushing it after I already said no that'd be really rude.
A photographer who tries to push ANYTHING on you that you're clearly not interested in, does not have your best interest in mind and probably shouldn't be someone you work with :p

Kanti
05-13-2012, 10:59 PM
Does fetish count as erotica?
I sort of wanted to do "erotica" in the sense of maybe having a whip, using liquid latex, wearing very
tall shoes, etc. I suppose like those photos you posted. I didn't want anything to do with appearing to
touch myself o_o that seems very inappropriate. I mean, not that I don't disapprove of it, I just don't
want photos of me like that circulating around.
I joined modelmayhem to expose my art mainly and to get my prosthetics and costumes some artistic
use. I'd think that'd be a fun photo shoot rather than a "OK wear this swimsuit.. Ok now take the top
off and put your hands over your nipples.. Don't worry nothing will show... Ok now just let us shoot
your titties"

I'd do nude if the fact that me being nude wasn't the entire focus. I don't want to be one of those girls
in the sports illustrated magazine xD but if I did do a shoot with a mermaid tail I'd have no problem
with having my top off. I guess if that makes any sense.

AniaR
05-14-2012, 09:55 AM
I sort of wanted to do "erotica" in the sense of maybe having a whip, using liquid latex, wearing very
tall shoes, etc. I suppose like those photos you posted. all those things ARE fetishes ;) and they'd totally fall under erotica :)

so, you're not interested in "pin up" style nudes, (e.g. in the swimsuit with a hand covering a breast) but you'd be fine in doing artistic suggestive nude (where the nudity isn't the focus)

all your preferences and stuff, your ideas, things you're comfortable doing- you can outline all that stuff right on your MM Bio, that's what most people do. They're very clear and say "this is what I'm interested in, this is what I'm not" so you can still have the nudity check marked if you want, and then have it all spelled out in your bio :) but really, whatever you're comfortable with

Kanti
05-14-2012, 02:32 PM
No one mentions pinup though, they go straight for "Oh I see you have erotica checked off and I see that you
say you do nudes!" so I took down erotica. I don't want to say no to nude because I'm ok with it, I just need to
hear the circumstances first.

Mermaid Rillia
05-19-2012, 11:00 PM
How exactly does model maayhem work? I've been told to look into it.

AniaR
05-19-2012, 11:26 PM
How exactly does model maayhem work? I've been told to look into it.
A lot like FB only specifically for those in the photo/model industry.

Ilonka
05-23-2012, 12:48 PM
I have a mm and its helped me allot with my career as a model. Always check a persons profile and album to make sure they are legit and try to have a meeting prior to the shoot to discuss eachothers limits and preferences. I never work with photographers that don't allow a person to company me, for me that's fishy. Iv had pushy photographers as well and all I do is simply tell them i am not interested in working with them. Iv met dozens of wonderful photographers tho and yes there will always,be assholes but that's just part of the trade. Just be savvy and keep your guard up until you feel that person is trustworthy.

Sea Pearl
07-21-2012, 09:23 PM
Do you need to have done previous modeling work befoe you can put yourself up on there? I've heard quite a few people mention MM and was thinking about looking into it. I would think if you are careful and never go anywhere on you're own it would be fine.

Raayvhen
07-21-2012, 10:41 PM
You have to have 4 professional looking shots to apply but you don't actually have to have experience. I'm still getting my shots together to submit my application and they're going to be from the same shoot I'm using to apply to Suicide Girls. You can display your experience level on your profile.

Sea Pearl
07-21-2012, 11:20 PM
Thanks :) When I'm looking into something I usually have a million questions, lol.

Raayvhen
07-27-2012, 01:23 AM
I'm uploading my photos from the shoot I had on Monday, I'll link when my profile gets live. Just a fair warning, the majority of these are NSFW/NSFM

Sea Pearl
07-31-2012, 02:00 AM
I’m having my first mermaid shoot in a couple of day’s time and when I get the prints from it I’ll use them for my pictures. I hope I can use photos from the same shoot. I've heard too you have to apply to get onto model mayhem and was wonder what things they would turn down your application for? I've heard some people getting rejected for no reason.

Raayvhen
07-31-2012, 12:48 PM
I had no trouble getting accepted. I used two NSFW photos and two that were questionably NSFW.

BTW, since I promised...http://www.modelmayhem.com/2269651 If you make sure that you're in worksafe mode you shouldn't see the NSFW pictures.

Capt Nemo
08-05-2012, 12:12 AM
My MM account. http://www.modelmayhem.com/336461

I do allow escorts, and haven't had a problem yet. Escorts will be used as gear haulers, reflector holders, ect. Generally, I do not do nudity, although I do have need for an implied (hand bra) shot right now. Mermaid tail shots are about the only time I allow bikinis, as they normally don't work well under wetsuits.

Many times we see profiles on MM that are conflicting. The model says "no nudity", but then fills her port with nude shots. So that might be some of the reason you're getting some of the requests. We don't know, and that's why we ask. Some are scams, and some are perverts. The No Outting policy on MM sometimes helps the creeps, but it also helps protect the innocent as well. If the photographer keeps insisting on nudes after you say NO, WALK OUT ON HIS ASS! If he's on MM, use the Contact A Moderator, and report him. A few bad reports will get him booted.

Sea Pearl
07-27-2013, 06:14 PM
I know this question has been asked and discussed before but for those who have a Model Mayhem account, what have been your experiences?

Mermaid Varshana
07-27-2013, 06:37 PM
Haha ooohhhhh, ModelMayhem. I've had many good experiences. It's way better than other freelance modeling sites I've tried. I will say this....when you're dealing with any large group of people, you will run into big egoes, whinging balls of neuroses, and predatory perverts.

Mermaid Harmony
07-28-2013, 06:42 PM
I just got an MM site last month, and I already have my first paying gig coming up next month, and I had a photoshoot and have a few more in September. I like it. It's fun.

Scilla Mermaid
08-05-2013, 05:19 AM
i in MM too

Meilyn
02-18-2014, 05:10 AM
Make sure you stand firm on what you won't do in regards to any type of modeling and do not hide your boundaries and/or standards. You'll get a lot crap for it, but it's best to uphold what you think is right and don't do anything you know you're not comfortable doing or even thinking of.

Frecklefish
04-27-2014, 06:10 PM
I started up an MM account at the beginning of March and was bombarded with the same kind of "Shoot nudes and erotica!! I won't pay you, but come be topless for a while" crud that you always see. I made sure to put very specifically in my profile that I only am interested in couture, runway, or high fashion work and those messages stopped pretty automatically. So far the one shoot I've done in my tail was with a friend and it was TFP (time for prints) because we both wanted the experience of modelling/photographing. I bet it would be an interesting way to try and network your availability as a mermaid model more than any other kind of model, just not sure how one would go about doing that...

maressa
07-20-2014, 02:44 PM
In my experience... horrible horrible website. All of the photographers I have met through that site were unprofessional and did pretty terrible work, or wanted TFP (trade for print), which, in professional modeling is not usually acceptable. The minute you tell them you have rates they scoff at you. I don't recommend the site at all... seems to be full of 'creeps with cameras'. The one good photographer I set up a paid shoot with wanted sex after the shoot. Deleted my profile.

maressa
07-20-2014, 02:44 PM
Make sure you stand firm on what you won't do in regards to any type of modeling and do not hide your boundaries and/or standards. You'll get a lot crap for it, but it's best to uphold what you think is right and don't do anything you know you're not comfortable doing or even thinking of.
Also, absolutely this. They'll try to coax you into stuff you don't want to do... get a contract, set your boundaries, and stand firm!!!

Odette
07-20-2014, 05:19 PM
I love it. Some may flake on ya, but some are my good friends now. I have found awesome people on there that I hang out with every now and then. It's great! Reunited with old friends too.

Mermaid Margo
08-13-2014, 02:12 PM
I was finally accepted now that I have some better quality pics! http://www.modelmayhem.com/3473333

There are creepers and scammers on every site, unfortunately, and I've just learned to ignore them.
I'm not sure if there's a "block" feature on MM, but anyone who is too pushy is probably no good and should be avoided.

Echidna
08-13-2014, 04:32 PM
In my experience... horrible horrible website. All of the photographers I have met through that site were unprofessional and did pretty terrible work, or wanted TFP (trade for print), which, in professional modeling is not usually acceptable. The minute you tell them you have rates they scoff at you. I don't recommend the site at all... seems to be full of 'creeps with cameras'. The one good photographer I set up a paid shoot with wanted sex after the shoot. Deleted my profile.

:jawdrop: sounds horrible, but not everyone on MM is like that. You have had really bad luck.

My profile is straightforward and explicit (no erotica/nudity), and with a very few exceptions I've only received legit offers from pro photographers and model agencies.

Of course there is always the stray "I have something super special and I need you for this shoot", which turns out to be some smartass wanting to do a nude calendar even though "no nudity" is stated in my profile he didn't bother to read.

My main complaint would be that the site is supposed to be international, yet most casting calls I get require me to jet over to LA or somesuch (erm...), but that's less the fault of the site and more due to the mediocre English skills of many Europeans, who rather use their country-based modelling sites.

Capt Nemo
08-16-2014, 11:01 AM
In my experience... horrible horrible website. All of the photographers I have met through that site were unprofessional and did pretty terrible work, or wanted TFP (trade for print), which, in professional modeling is not usually acceptable. The minute you tell them you have rates they scoff at you. I don't recommend the site at all... seems to be full of 'creeps with cameras'. The one good photographer I set up a paid shoot with wanted sex after the shoot. Deleted my profile.

You should have reported them to the mods! The mods enjoy going after the pervy GWC's (guys with camera).

I haven't been there much in the last 2 years due to all the flakes. I have a narrow shooting window during the summer due to my stage job, and flakeing models are the reason I haven't done a shoot in a long time. There are reasons I have to do wetsuit fitting sessions before a shoot. This summer is a good reason! Water temps just broke 60 degrees last week, and you are not going in that unless you want become an icicle! Once you get cold, the shoot is over, as you become a danger to you and me in the water. And cold water is not fun! So far, every model that has shot, wanted to do scuba lessons after the shoot because they had fun snorkeling due to having the right equipment! And misery does not make good pictures. But some models think this is a perv session. It also doesn't help having another photographer with the same last name get busted for cameras hidden in the dressing room. And the funny thing is, I worked with him on a show that he was photographer for. (as a stagehand)

Echidna
08-16-2014, 12:45 PM
I guess it depends on the experiences you have made.
Once you've encountered a perv with a hidden camera, you're bound to be suspicious :/

I received several scam messages since my last post.
Forwarded them to the Mods, and the profile they came from was banned instantly :p
So they really try, but there's always the odd scammer or criminal they can't detect.

Like the fishy business I had with an Eastern European, who clearly picked me out for my name and wrote the entire message in Romanian too.
He claimed he was eager to work with me, wanted to do a shooting in Germany, and suddenly flaked when he realized I was already working there (he apparently thought I was sitting in Eastern Europe in some tiny village eager to get out).
Never heard of him again.
I have a pretty good idea what that one was about, unfortunately there's nothing I could give the Mods to investigate.

MermaidCelesteFL
09-03-2014, 11:09 PM
I'm looking into doing MM, but I fear I might be too "plain-looking" or a little overweight. Should I still do it?

Echidna
09-04-2014, 12:47 AM
It can't hurt to try.
Just send in some pictures, and if they accept you, you're good to go.

MermaidCelesteFL
09-09-2014, 07:44 PM
OMG. My MM account was approved the other day, and I just got an offer for an underwater photo shoot with the tail!

Mer_Adella
09-11-2014, 09:00 PM
Here's the nice thing about MM they approve you no matter your body image...everyone needs models. Most photographers actually want and are leaning towards curvy, full figured woman to raise awareness that ALL bodies are beautiful. that's great that you got an offer to be photographed. I am mostly a model more than a mermaid model now. so if you have any questions or concerns you can message me. Talk to the photographer and if you feel creeped out ask if you can bring a "buddy" if they say no right away be wary. If they ask why say that you always bring someone in case you need something. They should be ok with it as it is for your safety. I mention this as I have heard/seen/delt with a lot of creepers and it would have been easier to weed them out by asking that simple question...can i bring a buddy for my safety and mertending?

MermaidCelesteFL
09-30-2014, 09:39 PM
I got my first underwater shoot coming up this weekend from a photographer I met through MM! The one after it is PAID! Many praises to this site!

Jadestone
10-21-2014, 04:12 PM
So, I joined about a month ago! I'e had a few messages, but a hard time finding times/locations (in the cause of an underwater shoot... no pools that seem willing :/ )

Do any of you post availabilities, or just contact photographers directly? Trying to figure out the best approach for this sort of thing.

Feel free to add me if you like :) http://www.modelmayhem.com/3496448

Sea Pearl
11-08-2014, 03:15 AM
Good for you starting up an account. I've been on there for a year now myself.
I always put up a casting call and describe what I am after as far as date, time and location. Sometimes I get photographers respond, but I will always send out individual inquiry too. Photographers have always been super friendly and excited about it. I've learned not everyone looks at the casting calls on a regular basis. If you have any more questions, though I am not an expert myself, I would be happy to help.

Best of luck.

Merman Chatfish
12-11-2014, 03:21 PM
Anyone here have a model mayhem?
I made one a couple months ago but I didn't realize I had to approve
my profile and it seems minutes after it was approved I was being bombarded
with emails and questions regarding shoots, most of them for "nudes and erotics"
Now I'm a bit overwhelmed with all this. I dunno if half these people are legit or
not.

Does this happen often? Is it just a "first join" type of thing or will I continuously
get a spout of emails like this? It's a bit crazy o_o


I just got a MM account (http://www.modelmayhem.com/3563319) and as soon as it was approved I had 12 guys asking to be friends and stuff, and its like what? I don't know you people what the heck. I did a search here for Model Mayhem to ask your exact question. One of the first emails I got was "do you have tats, six pack, do nudes" with less grammar.


I'm looking into doing MM, but I fear I might be too "plain-looking" or a little overweight. Should I still do it?

I don't think you look even slightly overweight.


Does fetish count as erotica?
I sort of wanted to do "erotica" in the sense of maybe having a whip, using liquid latex, wearing very
tall shoes, etc. I suppose like those photos you posted. I didn't want anything to do with appearing to
touch myself o_o that seems very inappropriate. I mean, not that I don't disapprove of it, I just don't
want photos of me like that circulating around.
I joined modelmayhem to expose my art mainly and to get my prosthetics and costumes some artistic
use. I'd think that'd be a fun photo shoot rather than a "OK wear this swimsuit.. Ok now take the top
off and put your hands over your nipples.. Don't worry nothing will show... Ok now just let us shoot
your titties"

I'd do nude if the fact that me being nude wasn't the entire focus. I don't want to be one of those girls
in the sports illustrated magazine xD but if I did do a shoot with a mermaid tail I'd have no problem
with having my top off. I guess if that makes any sense.



Kanti I was wondering the same thing when deciding my settings. I don't mind erotica like liquid/regular latex, bondage, whatever, and I am ok nude, but I don't want to become a porn shoot. What you want of doing a mermaid shoot but don't care if you have a top or not makes perfect sense. You want to be a natural mermaid, not so much vagina mermaid from another thread.

I know as a guy this is much less likely to happen but if someone said to me Ok now just let us shoot your titties" I would ask for the memory card and just leave.

Hmm....could you do that, bring your own memory card and at the end say "ok you know what this made me uncomfortable, I'm not letting you keep these"?

Mermaid Kelda
12-11-2014, 03:25 PM
One of the first emails I got was "do you have tats, six pack, do nudes" with less grammar.
:rotfl:

Merman Chatfish
12-11-2014, 03:35 PM
And me saying that is bad. I spent all of elementary, middle, and high school in special education for my writing and grammar.

MermaidLuciana
06-01-2015, 01:40 AM
The key with MM is to make yourself standout, and to be short/sweet/to the point with your profile. Make sure your stats are correct. If you tick off "nude" or "partial nude" (or pinups or lingerei) be prepared to have to force yourself to filter through the creeps and pervs. Whenever I initially made my account, I was a minor and I had SO many photographers ask me for "pics of just me in my underwear" dude, WTF :l

As for now? It's great to network and get critique on your photos, but take caution with the forum feature. There's a lot of egotistical maniacs on there and others are just plain rude to newbies to the photo/modeling world.

Don't worry about your height/weight/whatever. There's a photographer for EVERY body type.