Winged Mermaid
07-29-2011, 03:07 AM
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Posts: 323
06/26/10 06:32:59
Hello everyone,
I’m finally writing my review of Adam's Tails that many of you have asked for.
I've stood by Adam for years but finally have to admit that I've been scammed and would like this review to serve as a warning to all, particularly in light of Adam's recent "urgent" advertising for his new cheap tails on the Seatails boards.
I placed an order for a US+$2500 full silicone tail, which, as you all know, seemed like a great price at the time. I signed a contract and paid a deposit, then went through a lengthy process where I designed
the tail and fluke.
After awhile Adam said he needed the rest of the money and needed it fast, even though the contract stated I didn't have to pay until the tail was completed. I didn't have the money at the time so took out a cash advance on my VISA to pay and wire him the final payment. I paid all the fees and interest. Surprisingly things slowed down and he was "too busy" to finish my tail and I watched other peoples tails completed before mine. He has an unending supply of excuses, and emails that contradict both the progress on the tail and tales of his personal troubles. Adam used my mold and tail fluke design to design the new cheaper tail that he offered last year,
promising that he would use the money from these sales to finish my tail. I consider that intellectual theft, as he used the design commercially and made money from it.
After waiting for 2 years I demanded a refund and have spent the last 5 months receiving promises that the money would be in my account every week. I have just found out from Adam that he finished and sold my tail without telling me or refunding my money, so essentially selling stolen goods. I have photo's of my design and photo's of the other person holding my fluke if anyone wishes to see.
I realize now that not being able to put a large purchase like this on my VISA but wiring via Western Union or directly to a bank account is a classic internet way of scamming people, but really trusted him.
Please don’t make my mistake.
I am now making inquiries via Interpol regarding theft, and would love to hear from any others that may be in a similar situation.
PRO’s:
Nothing to report. Adam seemed like a really nice person who did stunning work.
CON’s:
I placed an order with Adam almost 2 and a half years ago. All I have to show for it is an inbox full of excuses and broken promises. That, and I’m out +US$2500, which I don’t believe I will ever see again. Oh! And the intellectual theft, that he’s made money out of. Oh! and the actual theft part...
Customer Service:
Haha! See above. Throughout our “relationship” there were always excuses, varying from very personal to business. Always a sob story present. I wouldn’t dream of airing this normally, except when a couple of us “customers” compared notes, we had all been sent the exact same emails several times about how hard up he was. Needless to say, we weren't impressed.
Last Edited By: Selene (http://selene.mer.yuku.com/) 06/26/10 17:03:02. Edited 2 times.
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Posts: 250
06/26/10 07:21:00
thank you very much for posting this. I have been looking at his tails and it is true, they are magnificent work, but if he really has these types of ethics while making his tails, i do not think that i will be buying from him at all.
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Posts: 232
06/26/10 08:59:20
Salene, that is so sad to hear. I hope that there is some way you will be able to get your money back. Keep us updated.
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Posts: 540
06/26/10 10:40:20
Thank you for telling us what has happened. I was thinking about getting a tail from him a while back and I saw that you were still waiting for yours and it had been a year. I didn't think anything bad about him when you posted that I was just too impatient to wait a year for a tail, this is good to know because his deal is very sweet sounding but I'm not going to risk it.
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Posts: 139
06/26/10 12:13:26
Hi Selene! before you posted your story, I was looking at the tails but I just knew there was something amiss. I talked to other merfolk that were cheated by him before I knew your story-and yes I will use the word cheat. I didn't want anyone else to get tricked so I posted this response to what he was posting on Seatails about his biz partner cheating him and how he will sell anyone a tail for cheap. I kept it nice bc he could change his ways eventually. I believe all people are basically good, but I wasn't going to let any more of our kind get hurt like you did. This is what I wrote:
"not to stick my neck out but I just asked a few merpeople about their tail experiences from you Adam. I was very interested in getting another tail at such a discount and I always check customer reviews first. Ur customers say they have given you the money but have not received their tails, nor their refunds-and some of them have been on hold for over a year. I am shocked and appalled. I hope you make things right with these merpeople, for the sake of your business, and for the sake of your bad situation. It's been my life experience that when bad things happened to me-it was bc I deserved it for treating others poorly. I've changed my life around and tho I'm not perfect-I understand that what goes around-comes around. I feel bad for your situation, but you can't expect it to change for the better if you don't fix your wrongs-you can run, and you can hide, but you can't outrun your karma. I hope to hear that you make good changes, and when i hear positive reviews and the wrongs corrected, I may be your next customer. Good luck!"
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Posts: 907
06/26/10 20:35:30
You know, I thought it was very odd when I saw the tail I knew was for you being sold to another, then a tail fluke that looked just like it being sold to yet another woman. I was going to message you about it (he posted the pictures on Facebook yesterday) but now I know what is going on. I'm very disappointed to hear about him mistreating his customers and business in this way. It always seemed he was such a great guy, and dedicated to something he was passionate about. His tails are amazing, and it looks like he always takes the time to do the job right. I was hoping to some day own one of his tails.. perhaps he will get things together one day.
I am sorry you had to go through such an ordeal with all of this. I am grateful that you spoke up so others can avoid the situation you were put in.
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Posts: 56
06/28/10 04:06:09
Thank you for the warning. So sorry you had to go through what should have been a great experience of getting a new tail :( I am sure you will save many others heartache and money loss in the future with your warning.
Never use Western Union or bank transfers for anything. And to everyone ever purchasing tails or any custom item or work remember you are the paying customer and they are working for you once a contract is signed. Not the other way around. If they demand more money and that is not in the contract, tell them absolutely no and they are in breach of their contract.
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Posts: 11
07/04/10 08:14:46
This really stinks- I'm sorry you're going through this. Thank you so much for sharing your review. What makes the situation even worse is that as far as communities go, mers are a smallish one. Anyone who has the ability to make tails, especially working with silicone, is a great asset to us, since there aren't a lot of tail retailers out there. To see one of those people flake out and essentially become an unusuable resource is very sad.
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Posts: 230
07/08/10 18:36:39
A mutual friend of Merman Nate and Myself, was also ripped off by Adam.
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Posts: 323
06/26/10 06:32:59
Hello everyone,
I’m finally writing my review of Adam's Tails that many of you have asked for.
I've stood by Adam for years but finally have to admit that I've been scammed and would like this review to serve as a warning to all, particularly in light of Adam's recent "urgent" advertising for his new cheap tails on the Seatails boards.
I placed an order for a US+$2500 full silicone tail, which, as you all know, seemed like a great price at the time. I signed a contract and paid a deposit, then went through a lengthy process where I designed
the tail and fluke.
After awhile Adam said he needed the rest of the money and needed it fast, even though the contract stated I didn't have to pay until the tail was completed. I didn't have the money at the time so took out a cash advance on my VISA to pay and wire him the final payment. I paid all the fees and interest. Surprisingly things slowed down and he was "too busy" to finish my tail and I watched other peoples tails completed before mine. He has an unending supply of excuses, and emails that contradict both the progress on the tail and tales of his personal troubles. Adam used my mold and tail fluke design to design the new cheaper tail that he offered last year,
promising that he would use the money from these sales to finish my tail. I consider that intellectual theft, as he used the design commercially and made money from it.
After waiting for 2 years I demanded a refund and have spent the last 5 months receiving promises that the money would be in my account every week. I have just found out from Adam that he finished and sold my tail without telling me or refunding my money, so essentially selling stolen goods. I have photo's of my design and photo's of the other person holding my fluke if anyone wishes to see.
I realize now that not being able to put a large purchase like this on my VISA but wiring via Western Union or directly to a bank account is a classic internet way of scamming people, but really trusted him.
Please don’t make my mistake.
I am now making inquiries via Interpol regarding theft, and would love to hear from any others that may be in a similar situation.
PRO’s:
Nothing to report. Adam seemed like a really nice person who did stunning work.
CON’s:
I placed an order with Adam almost 2 and a half years ago. All I have to show for it is an inbox full of excuses and broken promises. That, and I’m out +US$2500, which I don’t believe I will ever see again. Oh! And the intellectual theft, that he’s made money out of. Oh! and the actual theft part...
Customer Service:
Haha! See above. Throughout our “relationship” there were always excuses, varying from very personal to business. Always a sob story present. I wouldn’t dream of airing this normally, except when a couple of us “customers” compared notes, we had all been sent the exact same emails several times about how hard up he was. Needless to say, we weren't impressed.
Last Edited By: Selene (http://selene.mer.yuku.com/) 06/26/10 17:03:02. Edited 2 times.
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Posts: 250
06/26/10 07:21:00
thank you very much for posting this. I have been looking at his tails and it is true, they are magnificent work, but if he really has these types of ethics while making his tails, i do not think that i will be buying from him at all.
http://static.yuku.com/common/bypass/images/off_line.gifbluemermaid (http://bluemermaid.mer.yuku.com/)
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Posts: 232
06/26/10 08:59:20
Salene, that is so sad to hear. I hope that there is some way you will be able to get your money back. Keep us updated.
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Posts: 540
06/26/10 10:40:20
Thank you for telling us what has happened. I was thinking about getting a tail from him a while back and I saw that you were still waiting for yours and it had been a year. I didn't think anything bad about him when you posted that I was just too impatient to wait a year for a tail, this is good to know because his deal is very sweet sounding but I'm not going to risk it.
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Posts: 139
06/26/10 12:13:26
Hi Selene! before you posted your story, I was looking at the tails but I just knew there was something amiss. I talked to other merfolk that were cheated by him before I knew your story-and yes I will use the word cheat. I didn't want anyone else to get tricked so I posted this response to what he was posting on Seatails about his biz partner cheating him and how he will sell anyone a tail for cheap. I kept it nice bc he could change his ways eventually. I believe all people are basically good, but I wasn't going to let any more of our kind get hurt like you did. This is what I wrote:
"not to stick my neck out but I just asked a few merpeople about their tail experiences from you Adam. I was very interested in getting another tail at such a discount and I always check customer reviews first. Ur customers say they have given you the money but have not received their tails, nor their refunds-and some of them have been on hold for over a year. I am shocked and appalled. I hope you make things right with these merpeople, for the sake of your business, and for the sake of your bad situation. It's been my life experience that when bad things happened to me-it was bc I deserved it for treating others poorly. I've changed my life around and tho I'm not perfect-I understand that what goes around-comes around. I feel bad for your situation, but you can't expect it to change for the better if you don't fix your wrongs-you can run, and you can hide, but you can't outrun your karma. I hope to hear that you make good changes, and when i hear positive reviews and the wrongs corrected, I may be your next customer. Good luck!"
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Posts: 907
06/26/10 20:35:30
You know, I thought it was very odd when I saw the tail I knew was for you being sold to another, then a tail fluke that looked just like it being sold to yet another woman. I was going to message you about it (he posted the pictures on Facebook yesterday) but now I know what is going on. I'm very disappointed to hear about him mistreating his customers and business in this way. It always seemed he was such a great guy, and dedicated to something he was passionate about. His tails are amazing, and it looks like he always takes the time to do the job right. I was hoping to some day own one of his tails.. perhaps he will get things together one day.
I am sorry you had to go through such an ordeal with all of this. I am grateful that you spoke up so others can avoid the situation you were put in.
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Posts: 56
06/28/10 04:06:09
Thank you for the warning. So sorry you had to go through what should have been a great experience of getting a new tail :( I am sure you will save many others heartache and money loss in the future with your warning.
Never use Western Union or bank transfers for anything. And to everyone ever purchasing tails or any custom item or work remember you are the paying customer and they are working for you once a contract is signed. Not the other way around. If they demand more money and that is not in the contract, tell them absolutely no and they are in breach of their contract.
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Posts: 11
07/04/10 08:14:46
This really stinks- I'm sorry you're going through this. Thank you so much for sharing your review. What makes the situation even worse is that as far as communities go, mers are a smallish one. Anyone who has the ability to make tails, especially working with silicone, is a great asset to us, since there aren't a lot of tail retailers out there. To see one of those people flake out and essentially become an unusuable resource is very sad.
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Posts: 230
07/08/10 18:36:39
A mutual friend of Merman Nate and Myself, was also ripped off by Adam.