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mikamer
08-01-2011, 11:08 PM
Introduction
This is an editorial on products and services from Eric the Mertailor. Here you will find compiled links to all things mertailor for your buying, reviewing, and information needs. An editorial is like a review, while it will include facts (all things I have linked and screenshot etc.) it will also quote people's opinions and community activity based on my observation and interaction within the community. This editorial is subject to additional information. (see, told you I'd hold off on the swearing!) Having a bit of code issue if a mod wants to fix the coding errors.

Purpose
The purpose of this editorial is to present a timeline of mertailor activity to readers along with information and reviews so potential customers can have all the information they need to make a choice about purchasing. This is also a compilation of all the information scattered around the internet brought into one spot

Information
Mertailor on the Web
First let's start with all the places you can find mertailor online and learn about who he is and what he does.

Mertailor's official website (http://www.themertailor.com/)
Mertailor's official blog (http://mertailor.blogspot.com/)
Mertailor's official facebook (http://www.facebook.com/mertailor)
Mertaior's official model mayhem (http://www.modelmayhem.com/1334584)
The following is a list of other places online in which you can find mertailor information including interviews, forums, blogs, etc. (these will be referenced furthur in the article)

Author Carolyn Turgeon's interview with Eric (http://iamamermaid.com/2011/02/21/the-mertailor-eric-ducharme-and-his-wondrous-tails/)
Lady Gaga's wears a mertailor tail (http://gagafashionland.com/2011/07/le-grand-journal-lady-gaga-in-mertailor/)
mertailor gab page (http://mertailorblog.forums.com/) (this will be quoted and referenced later)
The mer yuku page of forum posts for mertailor (http://mer.yuku.com/forums/107#.Tjd1rWv1beI)
A mer yuku thread that originally linked to an OLD interview with a young mertailor, now only quotes (http://mer.yuku.com/topic/378/Quotes-about-mertailor#.Tjd2L2v1beK)
Mertailor reviews on mernetwork (http://mernetwork.com/index/forumdisplay.php?19-Mertailor)

(http://mernetwork.com/index/forumdisplay.php?19-Mertailor)If you have any applicable mertailor links please post them in the comments so they can be added to this editorial.

Mertailor Reviews (of what is currently posted)
Please note the time and date of the review you're reading as it may be several years old and non-applicable anymore


Positive Reviews
My Mertailor Expierience http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?148-Archive-quot-My-Mertailor-experiences-quot
My mertailor experience http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?134-Archive-quot-My-Mertailor-Experience-quot

Neutral or in the middle Reviews
The needle in my tail http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?131-Archive-quot-The-Needle-inbeded-in-my-tail.-quot

Negative Reviews
Mertailor Review http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?60-Mertailor-Review
What Happened: http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?147-Archive-quot-what-happened-repost-of-Raven-s-review-and-replies-quot
The Never ending story about ordering a mertailor tail http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?145-Archive-quot-the-neverending-story-about-ordering-a-mertailor-tail-quot
My Tail Order: http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?144-Archive-quot-My-Tail-Order-quot
Tail and top mixup http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?133-Archive-quot-Mertailor-Tail-and-Top-Mix-up-quot
My mertailor experience http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?135-Archive-quot-My-Mertailor-tail-quot
Maybe I recieved a tail all ready used http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?132-Archive-quot-Maybe-I-received-a-tail-already-used.-quot
Mertailor http://mer.yuku.com/topic/343/Mertailor#.Tjd5EWv1beI

Something important to remember about reviews: Eric has had past reviews removed from the mer yuku website that he felt were "slandering" his name, he also deletes any negative comments he recieves on his FB. Some mers have tried to give him a second chance and thus deleted their reviews that were negative.

Main Mertailor Product Complaints:
What I gather from the mermaid community as the main complaints about mertailor's tails (combined from all the reviews and messages people have sent me)
- Tails aren't the right size
-Tails look nothing like they do on his website
-No option for return (please note, there is now a section on the new website for returns but no one has had an experience with him doing this yet)
-in most cases money not refunded
-many tails do not arrive on time
-material used in latex tails may not be safe (Alex)
-Tails do not last (See the degredation of a mertailor tail thread with photos (http://mer.yuku.com/topic/769#.Tjd61mv1beJ))
-tails often arrive in poor boxes and poor condition
-tails take longer to make and send then his website claims (at least 3 months for most people)
-paint scrapes off easily
-different types of neoprene used (Raina and Marla's tails)
-Flukes fill up with water and air and balloon, are not glued down

Main Mertailor Complaints
- accuses everyone in the community as copy cats
-wrongfully threatens legal action because he has a copy right claim (for a SCULPTURE (http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?136-Copyright-Claims-against-tails))
-does not aknowledge the help others have given him (Linda, (http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?172-Hello-from-a-Siren) for instance.)
-Lies to the community (His apology to Raina and the community did not come from him but rather Linda)
-harasses users to remove posts about him
-Hates when users talk about him (Raina sent a screenshot that will be talked about later)
-Uses his FB to dramatically call out users or issues in the community and rile his fans against people
-makes large attempts to silence the free speech of the community
-does not return emails or phone calls in a timely manner

A History of Mertailor Drama on Mer Yuku and in the Community
Mer yuku moved to mernetwork in part as a direct result of his reporting review threads that were not in his favour. Originally there were no "bad" posts about Mertailor but when Raina and Claudio first posted their reviews (since removed thanks to Eric) an uproard started in the community. No body wanted to admit they had similar complaints until Eric angered the wrong mermaid Raven (see her above original account of what happened and the tail she got). When Raven came out and told everyone about her experience suddenly many other who were having issues felt safe to do so (see all the reviews that are linked above). Mermaid Melissa joined in with her own issues about being exploited by Eric and before we knew it there were videos circulating the web about bad mertailor, his FB was deleted, and he seemed to dissapear.
You can still see some of the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugUh6eCpWD4
The video above goes in part with Raina's Review. Raina tells me she originally took it down for a while when it looked like Eric had changed but has since reposted it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oH2VP2TMmc
see above another warning video


Warning, this next bit is LONG and there will be a "TL:DR" at the end if you feel the need to skim by

After a bit of hiatus and a lot of anti-mertailor stuff Eric started a blog (http://mertailor.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2010-12-13T12%3A20%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=7)and this was one of the first big posts he made:




Critique (http://mertailor.blogspot.com/2010/12/critique.html)

As with any business, there is going to be a certain degree of negative press that is expected. Everyone is 100% entitled to their own opinions but, without breaking anyone's privacy, I would like to discuss this topic from a more objective standpoint. There are many places where people can go to post comments about their experience. This can be a great thing and produce a feeling of a close community, however, negative energy feeds off of negative energy. I am well aware of the things being said about me and my company. Some concerns are legitimate and come from actual customers who wish something had been done differently with their tail. Some review are from people that I have had personal relationships with that have ended and there is clearly bitterness in their posts. Some reviews are exaggerated in order to gain attention. I have seen people post many pictures of their tail looking fine, try to alter something by themself, create a new problem, and then post negative pictures blaming Mertailor for these problems. Unfortunately, this kind of negative press comes with the territory and is something that I am having to learn how to deal with. This is not uncommon for any business. Most people are far more likely to find a problem in something and speak about it if they see others doing the same, and praise is more rare to come by. I have realized that it is like shopping. You're pushing a shopping cart and you have a squeaky wheel. People are much more likely to complain about the squeaky wheel than to praise the 3 good wheels for having their WD-40 that day. Another example......celebrities have whole magazines where people are waiting for them to mess up and read about it, but millions of people back and support them for a reason.

If you are reading this and just getting to know about me for the first time, or just interested to know more about me, I DO urge you to do your research on me and my company. Research my references, check out who I've worked with, what I've done, and where I've performed. Communicate directly with me and make your own judgement. Mertailor has existed for over 5 years and had hundreds of satisfied customers all over the world. Look into everything and make sure you see the whole track record, not just the squeaky wheel.

I look forward to talking to you soon.
Eric

Now, this was met by mixed feelings in the community and you can see their reaction on mer yuku here (http://mer.yuku.com/topic/431/Mertailor-Blog#.TjeAH2v1beI)
Raina wrote the following response to Eric:


Dear Eric

I know you read meryuku on a regular basis and that's pretty clear from the details of your posts on blogger. So I'm writing a public open letter to you to keep things accountable on both ends, and to summarize my thoughts on what you're doing.

I'm a firm believer than people can change. I'd hate for someone to judge me on what I was like a year ago, or heck even a few months ago. I grow, I learn, I make choices, I try every day to wake up and be a better person. I am very hopeful that you can overcome all your negative choices and negative press to become the person you'd like to be. Despite being very frustrated with your actions both with my tail and on our forum, I am not above changing my opinions of you and allowing you a chance to screw up and recover. I'm a human being, I do stupid things too. I know somewhere down the line I'm going to really upset someone and I'll hope they'll give me a second change to redeem myself too.

I see that you're going to take more efforts to ensure the fit of your tails. I am thrilled to see this as it's something I have been suggesting for a while. I do not expect that you'd be able to get every single tail right and I also don't expect that you'd be able to fix every single tail that you get wrong. I do however expect you to see a problem and do everything you can to prevent it from happening again. In this case- you're looking into better ways to communicate measurement and really, that's all I can ask. I was very happy to see that blog post and I certainly hope you'll follow through on it. Nobody expects you to be perfect, but it's important to admit to mistakes so that everyone including yourself can move on from them.

You've upset a lot of people.... but at the end of the day it wasn't the fact that our tails didn't fit, weren't the right colour, or had artistic interpretations that got us to the extreme points of bitterness that we've all been showing. It was your attitude, your lack of responsibility, and ultimately your attempt to silence us that pushed us to the beyond. I feel like everyone with the exception of Raven who knows you personally and felt very betrayed by your behaviour, worked really hard to be constructive in our critiques and dealings with you until you crossed the line of trying to have us silenced. Before that point you didn't have a lot of negative public feedback, there weren't anti-youtube videos, and there certainly weren't as many forum posts. All the bitterness exploded after that point and I hope you're able to recognize that and think differently before you react to your next piece of feedback.

I for one, always tried to balance my critiques of you with the fact that you always replied to me emails politely and on-time, created a beautiful piece of artwork (even if it didn't fit), and gave me a discounted price when I talked about the negative things. However, you had all those posts removed and with your recent behaviour I saw no reason to sandwhich in compliments and respect when you clearly weren't capable of giving that to me or others.

Im happy that you removed your things and took time to gather yourself and start over so to say with your blog and facebook. I hope you've learned something from the experience and I am pleased to see a more positive responsible attitude coming from your blog. Im disappointed in myself that I allowed myself to sink to such caddy behaviour as making fun of you and I take responsibility for that. It was very difficult to deal with you in a respectful manner after you crossed the line of having our threads removed.

I believe that I have real complaints about my tail. It drastically doesn't fit, it looks nothing like advertised on the site, and I've come to find out the material and the paint are not what I was told they were or what I selected in the ordering process. I think those are real complaints and I'm sure by now you've seen my video to see how drastically they impact my tail. I think I am valid in having a real complaint that you came to our forum and tried to bully people and have threads/posts removed. Those are real genuine complaints. They aren't exaggerated to make you look bad- I think I've all ready demonstrated that with my earlier reviews that you had removed.

In your analogies on your blog I'd like to say, I am not buying a product from a celebrity. If a celebrity's behaviour upset me then sure I wouldn't buy their product. Ive met several famous musicians who turned out to be horrible people and I dont buy their music or say good things about them to anyone. With you, if it was just your attitude that was the problem and not the tails, or your personal life was in question etc but your tails were fine... I could separate those things from the art you create. But it's not just your attitude that was the problem, it was the tails. In your analogy of the shopping cart it wasn't that the wheel was squeeky, it was that you were missing a whole wheel rendering the cart useless. You can't use a cart that only has 3 wheels. That's what my tail was like, a cart with 3 wheels.

I think you're on the right path with your analogies though. One thing important I learned working in customer service is that if you provide good service to a customer they may tell their friend. If you provide bad service they will tell everyone they know. That's how it's always going to be.

Personally, I've heard a lot more about you from other people. A lot of anecdotal evidence if you will. I can't say I don't judge you on it because I see people who are really hurt. However. I would be more than willing to remove my own anti-mertailor videos if you were to issue a public apology to the mer yuku communities on your blog admitting that it was inappropriate to threaten us with legal action and have our critiques removed. After that I would consider the matter over and I'd stop telling everyone who will listen about my experience with you. Obviously, I can't vouch for anyone else in this community because they've all had their own personal experiences with you. But I felt that whole situation to be incredibly inappropriate and not at all the kind of image you want to be putting out there. So I'd like an apology. it doesn't have to be a big horrible "oh yes Im an awful person" kind of thing cuz hopefully you arent. You're just a regular human being who made some bad choices. But I'd like it to be sincere and truthful. I think it would make all of us feel much better and I also think it would improve your current standing with future customers. It does need to be specific however and not "Im sorry some people are mad at me" kind of deal. In order for me to believe anything you're writing right now on your blog, or to stop encouraging people to NOT buy from you I and this community need some sort of assurance that you're doing your best to change and make things right

So there you go, the ball is in your court. I'll keep an eye on your blog. If I don't see anything I'll continue to tell people my current opinions unless you do something else drastic to change them.

-Raina



To which "Eric" (it was found out later it was not actually him) replied:


Due to recent activity I feel that I owe an apology to the mermaid community.

To the mermaids and mermen of mer.yuku, I would like to say that I am very sorry for taking such negative actions against your forum posts. Reading some of the things that were said were very upsetting and I do believe I over reacted. I was wrong to speak so harshly about legal retaliation, and while I do still feel that some things said crossed the line, I should not have had all of the posts regarding Mertailor removed. You are all entitled to your opinions and I am learning to respect that.

Raina, I would like to personally apologize to you for having your posts removed. You do have legitimate concerns regarding your tail and I realize that. Thank you for taking the time to write to me. I appreciate the overall tone that was felt in your letter. I did not feel animosity, but rather a person who was being completely genuine. I wish you all the best in your mermaiding career.

Thank you everyone for reading and I look forward to being part of your mermaid/man journey.

Eric

This marked the turning point in which Eric fooled us all into thinking he really DID change for the better and was going to work really hard on his relationship with the community.

Too Long Didnt Read:
Summary: Eric apologized to the community and his apology was mostly accepted. Though later the community would find out he did not make the apology another user did in an effort to help him out.

And for a small amount of time everyone made good on their word. Raina took her things down, it took a little while for Raven to come around, Melissa went on hating the mertailor and then very quietly and out of the public eye seemed to make amends. People were sending their tails to get fixed if they were messed up and Eric launched his new silicone tails. It looked like everything was getting better...

BUT new negative reviews were still popping up and instead of agreeing most users were just encouraging the customers to contact Eric to see if he could fix things up for them. I have heard from several mermaids on this site as well that many customers would contact them in an effort to get help with their bad tails. Soon things started to rub Eric the wrong way again...

On his blog Eric made a post about what he REALLY thinks of the community (hence why I dont agree with him being on the cover of a certain magazine)


If you want my honest opinion, I think it is a joke. Just because there is a group of people with a common passion, does not give them the right to break laws, infringe, or bully. In the real world there are laws, rules, and regulations for reasons. If people cannot follow them and get caught, they are likely to get called out by their wrongful actions or reprimanded by the law. People may not like this, but that's how the world rolls. If people do not want to get reprimanded or called out on a mistake that they made, then they should have not done it in the first place. It is a pretty simple fact of life. Right, wrong, or otherwise, when people duplicate original works of art (ie. sculptures, music, paintings, photographs, drawings, costumes, etc), they know what they are doing. Whether or not people are willing to deal with or accept the repercussions is another story in itself. Plain and simple, reproducing original images or reposting or publishing them without the consent of the original owner(s) is unlawful.

The community should be for people to be original and unique. To live dream. However, that is not the case from most material available on many public domains. Believe it or not there are hundreds of ways to create a mermaid tail. If I remember correctly from going back to my childhood days, mermaids are half human, half fish. If this is the case then there are thousands upon thousands of various species of fish. Each fish has a different color pattern caudal or fluke shape, scale patterns/shapes, and various pectoral and dorsal fins.

With that said, why do people say there is only a "select few" ways to create a mermaid tail? Unfortunately, I do not think this is the case. I think people are suffering themselves from being original by being lazy.

It seemed this was all the result of a certain merman who was working on making a custom merman tail for a friend that Eric felt threatened by. IN fact, the tail (photos since removed from FB) looked NOTHING like anything done by Eric and as we've all ready seen he clearly doesnt understand copying and copyright (this will be it's own section as we keep going)

Now, I personally, after seeing a lot of this hypocritical behaviour between him and a professional mermaid did a krass editorial on mer yuku that has since been deleted that documented ways in which he violated copyright and some other issues. I deleted it because Melissa mermaid contacted about half of you in what I feel was a bullying and manipulative way (I got a few messages from mermaids begging me to take it down because she wouldnt stop bothering them and telling everyone THEY did it), and accused the other half of you of being me. I felt like, the message was sent and recieved and everyone knew so I could delete the post and save other people the headache.

Eric responded to this by removing every single person he thought could have had anything to do with and everyone from the community and all the mermaids he knew off his FB. This shocked many who had no idea what was going on and most recieved a generic response. (p.s. Raina, I'll leave it to you if you want to post the message you recieved from him)

There's a lot of stuff that happened in between here on FB that Im going to post in it's own spot because I have screenshots, but what happened next really showed his true colours. The Mer yuku community decided they needed to vote on whether or not they would allow Eric to join the mernetwork community. You can read the thread here (http://mer.yuku.com/topic/1103/Poll-Please-Vote-Mertailor-and-MerNetwork?page=1#.TjeFcWv1beI)

Highlights from the poll?
-We discovered for sure that Eric did not do any of the blog posts that had to do with the apology to Raina and the mer.yuku community
-We discovered Eric didn't even make a lot of the tails that were making people happy- it was his assistant he denies having
-More reviews of bad product got posted (See Dixie's here: http://mer.yuku.com/reply/11174/Poll-Please-Vote-Mertailor-and-MerNetwork#reply-11174 )
-Freethinker shared how Eric didn't follow through on his Wife's tail fixing- Freethinker has been a LOYAL mertailor customer for years and really supported him when everything was bad, read about that here: http://mer.yuku.com/reply/11195/Poll-Please-Vote-Mertailor-and-MerNetwork#reply-11195

And then... Eric did something SERIOUSLY stupid that sealed his fate. He posted a screencap of a comment Raina left on a lady Gaga page about his bad tails. See the screencap and comments here: http://mer.yuku.com/reply/11244/Poll-Please-Vote-Mertailor-and-MerNetwork#reply-11244
Turns out, Eric's fans didn't agree with what he'd done (can you say unprofessional to the max?!) and many started commenting, of course he deleted them as fast as he could and soon delete the whole post. Raina's reply: http://mer.yuku.com/reply/11254/Poll-Please-Vote-Mertailor-and-MerNetwork#reply-11254

One of the tails Eric DIDNT make: http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/didnotmakethsitail.jpg

Once this happened, Eric started unleashing a slew of inappropriate comments on his facebook that were direct replies and callouts to things that he saw here...

Facebook Drama

With this, it's just best to show screenshots since he can delete anything he wants. This may also be a too long didnt read for many of you, so feel free to skim past if you know all this. Just posting for accountability. I hate when he says we're lying about him.


http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/11.png
This is a direct call out to this thread: http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?164-My-Dragon-Skin-Tail-In-the-Works

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/anypress.jpg
Eric believes any press is good press, and to claim "once the people got to know me" is a bit of a lie dont you think? Since they weren't getting to know him at all? Just someone trying to help him out?

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/assistanttalk.jpg
First of all, this goes with the link where freethinker talks about his assistant Linda. And way to void someone's privacy there Eric. The people on your FB have no idea what you're talking about and you've just singled someone out again. Do you realize that's considered "personal attack" on FB policy and is a bannable offence? We all know he didn't make the tails on his own and that he didn't do his mertailor stuff on his own. Linda was even called his assistant in an article about his underwater performing where she was with him to do auditions. *face palm* keep your lies straight main!
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/butnolinda.jpg
but no thank you to your assistants, no thank you to thom shouse or anyone who you literally stole tail making advice, ideas, (ripping apart tails sound familiar?) from... geesh.
Then we have THIS post that completley contradicts that one...
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/butugethelp.jpg
because you know, he's had NO help getting where he is.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/fairquestion.jpg
A complaint on his page from 2 weeks ago, never answered. But thankfully, not deleted.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/gaga.jpg
Copying Gaga who loves to call people her little monsters, guess we're all little mermaids and mermen of Erics
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/ignored.jpg
Respond to your emails please!
People need to track him down on here or FB to get a response.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/maybeforlatex.jpg
Customers would like you to do something about your latex tails Mister Mertailor....
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/mertailor3.jpg
This post happened after in the dragon skin thread people started wondering about Eric's materials and their safe use. He may use dragon skin for silicone, he doesn't use it for latex.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/mertailorhairpull.jpg
Showing a photo of you pulling a girl's hair back? Pretty creepy. And why does he always insist on pretending he's straight in his photos? He's gay, we all know it. No one cares. Be proud and stop pretending you're something you're not just to sell your product!

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/no.jpg
Even though he did it for years. Eric will no longer make tails with 2 colors! Le gasp!
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/noanswer.jpg
Another question with no answer....
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/onlylikesuswhen.jpg
Posts like this confuse me and seem fake considering how much he seems to hate the mermaiding world... especially ours...
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/ownbigfan.jpg
Eric is his own biggest fan that's for sure.
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/stoporders.jpg
I wonder if he'll stop taking orders then for tails since he obviously wont be able to keep up on them! Probably not, and everyone will just get them late!
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/whentheydontfallapart.jpg
You mean when they dont fall apart, right?

Eric and The Lady Gaga Saga...
So, you've all ready seen the drama where Eric tried to call out another member of the community for having an opinion about his tails on a lady Gaga website right? Well here's what you missed from his page. When the video came out there was a LOT of negative feedback about his tail. So much so, that he decided he couldn't take full credit. While he tells Raina "Gaga's opinion means more than yours" consider how he responded to fans who didn't like his tail...

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/defenseaboutGaga.jpg (this was posted on Raina's page and copied and pasted on his own page several times)

He's not exactly happy people don't like it, and he's not willing to take credit. Don't you think Gaga's opinion means more than yours too Mister Mertailor?
I wonder how she'd feel if she saw you're practically embaressed by the tail you made her but you will still pick on a member of the community in her name!

Eric and Copying

Eric accuses everyone of copying him and threatens legal action. Let's take a look shall we of how Eric copies others!
Hey Raven's Etsy! Remember how you did a bunch of octopus themed jewelery? Oh look: http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k569/mikamer75/idontcopynono.jpg

Let's not forget the logos and designs Eric uses that he claims are original and are not. Look familiar?
http://www.lantainfo.com/hotel/koh_lanta/lanta_mermaid/lanta_mermaid_logo.gif

But let's do a real comparison here of mertailor tails VS other tails that were done first....

Here's a gallery of Thom Shouse Tails: http://www.mermaidrentals.com/gallery.htm common copies in Eric? scales and patterns, fluke designs, even the fit and the way they bunch! Even Eric's colours could be a dead ringer for many of Thoms.
Compare Thoms (even do a google search for more variety) with these: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=260678517283071&set=pt.130816216935969&type=1&theater
There's a reason one of the articles said Thom just stopped talking to Eric one day.


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=219151451435778&set=a.159382254079365.41893.130816216935969&type=1&theater
Looks an awful lot like mermaid's in motions blue tail! Like, a LOT. And even if he's not trying to copy- dont you think if it was the other way around he'd accuse?

and Raina, I gotta say, doesn't this look an AWFUL lot like your tail (after Raven re did it) and even one of hers?!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2225650958540&set=a.1111666309620.18805.1165753630&type=1&theater


Conclusion
Many people dont have any other option if they want a realistic tail than to go to Eric. But I believe that will be changing within the year as more people learn to make their own and more tail makers are coming out. Eric goes out of his way to censor people who say anything negative to the point of embaressing people on his FB through callouts. (Coral, Linda, Raina, etc.) He spends so much time following everything that's done on this forum it's no wonder he doesn't get tail orders done on time. He seems to have burned many bridges, angered many people, and made many enimies.

You take a risk when you purchase from mertailor. While his new tails may look beautiful remember they are photoshoppes and even then you can see the issues. You also as much as we try to make this a free place are not free to say whatever you feel or want without some sort of retribution from him. if you post a concern on here you may not get fair treatment from Eric.

Consider this is a person who is WINGING IT. Eric didn't go to school to learn how to run a business. While he makes tails and has become very good, NOTHING QUALIFIES HIM to run a business, interact with customers, handle money, or really anything. He clearly lacks customer service skills and public relations.

You are free to do what you want to do and if you want to support him or give him a chance that is your choice. He did not turn over a new leaf. He didn't change. Other people did that for him. He is the same old person causing drama and headaches. While this editorial is very thick with my opinions and the opinions of the members who contributed (many wished to stay anonymous) it is still full of facts that you can see with your own eyes and make a choice about.

Good luck. And for god's sake praise me for not swearing this time.

AniaR
08-01-2011, 11:34 PM
I am one of the people who contributed my experience to this (obviously) most of it was/is common knowledge anyway except this:

This was the message Eric sent me:


I am sorry to say this, but I have made a decision to delete mermaids from my personal page again. Things are getting too dramatic and I need my personal space back. All of your kind words and support has been appreciated.

I will add that I am extremely upset about recent posts in random places about my relationship with Melissa and myself. I did not appreciate any of the responses. Your response included. All that was, was unnecessary drama. The mermaid forum is a no good place.This just goes to show you how two faced people can be.

I do not like drama and I stay away. However, I will say to you that the "mermaids" who you think are your friends are not. They LOVE to talk smack behind your back and many others. Just watch out for the wrath, it's not fun. I know from my own personal experience.

Everyone voices their opinions all the time, here is mine:

There are a small handful of professionals and originals in the mermaid community who've worked their butts off to get where they are today. Let me tell you something, they are not frequent posters on any mermaid forum.

Many people learn from their mistakes. It seems there are still a few stinky fish in the bunch. No pun intended.

I will finish this email with stating that I have been working on a tail for you in my spare time which is slim to non. It's difficult because you seem to have an issue with heavy tails.

I wish you the best of luck with your mermaid journey.


I did my very best when I got this message to respond respectfully and let this go, but then I found out he hadn't actually apologized to me (lie) and hadnt even started a tail like he claims (lie). So yes, then I couldn't help but get angry and angrier especially seeing how he was out against other people and now how much he obsesses over the forum.

I didn't have a good experience, everyone knows so I told Mika they didn't need to keep me anonymous. I dont post on my facebook "I hate mertailor" or anything like that, but when people ask me about my tail or my experience I am not going to lie.

Eric has a lot of growing up to do and I feel really bad for him. I admit I get carried away making fun on here, but it's sorta my way with dealing of the pain of it all and I'm working on finding better ways. I do believe people have a right to know what he does and what he's like and when they see something like this they really can't argue with it because it's all links and photos and quotes. I put my video back up because he didn't honour our agreement. I know there were also more angry reviews but they have been deleted :\

Moonflower
08-02-2011, 12:32 AM
The link to the Thom Shouse gallery is broken.

Taylor is a Mermaid
08-02-2011, 01:00 AM
What are we accomplishing by rehashing the drama and finding every slight Eric's done to us? Aren't we bigger than that?

mikamer
08-02-2011, 02:07 AM
this is an editorial, in the review section. All it is is a history of his time with the community with applicable links. it's all public information and links that anyone can find but instead of having it all over the internet it's now compiled into one place. Thought I made the "purpose" pretty clear.

Thom link works after a couple refreshes, but you can also google. Should be fixed now

Taylor is a Mermaid
08-02-2011, 02:52 AM
this is an editorial, in the review section. All it is is a history of his time with the community with applicable links. it's all public information and links that anyone can find but instead of having it all over the internet it's now compiled into one place. Thought I made the "purpose" pretty clear.

Thom link works after a couple refreshes, but you can also google. Should be fixed now
I do think the reviews part is very helpful, so thank you for compiling all of that in one place. We'll have to agree to disagree on the rest, though.

mikamer
08-02-2011, 02:56 AM
well, I think my main point, is he tries so hard to make sure this stuff is deleted and never sees the light of day and that's not very fair you know? This is a record. Also, I think a lot of people have decided to give him a second chance based on his "turning a new leaf" which isn't true at all and was actually someone else. People should know they're being lied to but I can't just say that, unless I show all the evidence who would believe?

Kanti
08-07-2011, 02:24 AM
I think it's great that you guys put all this information up to expose the faults with the Mertailor- Eric's business, but it seems a little much.
I've never been a fan of the Mertailor because his tails are expensive and, honestly, they're too similar to every other tail I've seen. There's nothing original about them and apparently the materials he makes them out of aren't really that great. I've watched youtube videos and read reviews that the average mertailor tail didn't last for more than a few months (or so I was told). After seeing a lot of the reviews on this site too, it's a shame he doesn't offer to fix tails that HE didn't even make right. To me, that seems a very despicable business practice.

But I've also never really hated him either.. Even after reading all that was above I still don't.
He's just someone trying to run a business, and like lots of people, his products aren't as great as he says. You know how many things I've bought that have been like "WOW IT'LL CHANGE YOUR LIFE!" and it breaks the first second I use it? You know how many products claim to have a LIFETIME WARRANTY and when you contact the seller they don't even pick up the phone? He may be a scummy business guy, and if you've been unfortunate enough to have had the displeasure of buying one of his tails, getting a crummy tail, and having him not give a crap to repair it, then you can just write a bad review and tell people. You don't have to FOLLOW his every move.

Either way, I think posting all his conversations and facebook things is just.. obsessive. It reminds me of a group of friends gossiping about another person. They all claim he's so terrible and crummy, but I mean, he must matter a lot to them because they're taking all this time to talk about him. It seems to me Eric really does care what you guys think, hence the updates and letters to your members. But he also seems too proud to admit that he's running a very shady business. And to me, it seems like all of you are more out to expose Eric as a shitty person rather than to show that Mertailor tails aren't very good. I knew his tails were crummy the second I saw the FIRST video of the ill-fitting tail. Everything after just seemed like an attempt to get me to believe Eric is a bad person and that I should hate him. And of course, in retaliation, Eric does the same. He writes those statuses because he personally is being attacked by a community of people who he probably thinks are jealous of him. And, you know, he has reason to think that. He is very successful, and if he is, he must be doing SOMETHING right.

You guys should really just leave it. Who cares about Eric. If his tails suck, that's all we need to know. I care more to know about Eric's business practices than your personal relationship with him.

No offense, (all i can do is hope I'm not shunned for semi-sticking up for this guy) but it just seems there's WAYYY too much bias against him. A WAY more scummy person who is even worse than Eric is Adam Martyn. Someone who doesn't even MAKE the tails for people. Someone who is NICE AS CAN BE when you talk to him, but is a horrible businessman and won't even refund your money. A person who makes wonderful looking tails, but you won't even get to see one in person because he's a scam artist. How come there's no special forum dedicated to that guy? Why does Eric get a novel written about him? I'd much rather be warned about Adam than Eric :/

Winged Mermaid
08-07-2011, 03:17 AM
I agree with Kanti. However I think this community is going through a healing period. At first it was merely customers who had bad business transactions with Eric. The real trouble came when he started threatening and bullying people so they would take down their negative reviews, and he didn't stop there, but also tried to get topics taken down on Seatails and MerYuku. Seatails (Ning) was closed down shortly after. With MerYuku he succeeded via Yuku host. I think that took it from a personal to a community level and a lot of people were very upset by this. Since then many people have come out saying they were very very hurt by Eric on a personal level as well. Individually and as a group there has been a lot of wrong done by him. Not only by his business but as him as a person, and that's where all this comes from.

I think this is somewhat because we have just moved from Yuku hosting. There all Eric had to do was send Yuku Legal a email saying what was going on was slander/libel or that we were breaking his copyright to have them delete any topic he wanted- in fact several of the deleted topics had nothing to do with him, but were on making tails an not even on his method (ex: informational thread about silicone long before he had started using it). Now that we are more secure I think this has provoked a venting stage. In my opinion this will pass and people are just getting all that hurt out.

I think he is irritating the situation by not only not learning from his past mistakes, but continuing bad business practices by insulting people on a personal level. Like when he says things like, "Unfortunately, there are people who feel the need to be disrespectful and lie to gain attention." He has also claimed (in a topic he deleted) that all issues with his tails are the customers fault. In the same topic he even accused me of using a tail, then posing it with shipping materials (then taking pictures and posting) to make it look like it had come out of the box in a lesser condition that actually received. I always try and tell people when writing reviews to be professional and not be emotional, but it's hard whenever he insists on continuing this way all the time.

More people are coming out with tail issues and personal issues as well. I think they just need to run their course at this point. I agree though that if you don't like Eric and don't support him, then "unlike" his page, delete him off your bookmarks, whatever, and just forget about him. I know perhaps the point of this post was to be informal, but it quickly became personal. Looking up on him all the time will only aggravate you more, and why would anyone want to live with that extra stress and negativity? If one doesn't think well of him then he's certainly not worth the time or thought. He obviously doesn't think well of the community and most if not all of the people in it, so why give him the time of day? The fact that he feels he has to follow everything on this forum, let alone respond on his FB, is actually pretty sad. Why stoop to that same level? Just let it go.

I just hope that people on a personal level and the community as a whole can just get this out in the open and out of their system then heal and move on.

In my closing, a fitting quote I hope everyone will take to heart.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." Buddha

Kanti
08-07-2011, 04:30 AM
That's understandable in a sense, but no one should be afraid to post a bad review of Eric's tails. It's freedom of speech and completely protected by ANY regular business ethic and if your previous website that hosted the forums honors something so ridiculous, then honestly, I'd be more ashamed with the website than Eric.
I guess why I wouldn't get mad because it's such a stupid and pathetic threat of action. If Eric ever tried to take "legal" action for me posting a bad review, using a method of making mermaid tails he claims is his, or anything else, really, I would honestly send him an email with a huge LOL and never speak with him again.
It is crummy that he did such immature things as you and so many others have shown me, but all the better to never associate with him again. If someone acted so immaturely and rudely towards me, I would simply give them the finger and never contact them again.
You can't chase someone around and hope they will change, feel sorry for them, or be irritated that they're not learning from their past mistakes unless they mean something to you. If its solely a business relationship, as I imagine most of you have to do with Eric, then who cares. Life sucks, you get cheated, but you walk away knowing that this person/business is completely unreliable. If you want to tell others, that's why you write reviews.
And just so everyone knows and is not afraid:
You are 100% allowed to write a negative review about ANYONE. If someone gives you a bad product, make a youtube video. Youtube will never respect the Mertailor's ridiculous requests because they actually know the law.

Kanti
08-07-2011, 05:03 AM
ANOTHER THING:
Creating your own mermaid tails is completely legal.
A good example of this is a legal battle that was fought between a man who designed and sold Storm Trooper armor vs. George Lucas.
George Lucas claimed the man couldn't replicate the armor and sell it because it infringed copyright, but the judges ruled that since the
armor was mass produced it wasn't considered art.
The article is here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jul/27/george-lucas-star-wars-replicas

Either way,
People have been visualizing, creating, and designing mermaids for centuries, Eric does not copyright the MERMAID. Another thing, many of you are creating these tails for your own personal use. That literally throws EVERYTHING out the window. Copyright is usually dedicated to prevent the RESALE of items that are directly copied off a previously original idea. In the example where he got upset that someone was making octopus sculptures that were similar to his, well, he didn't invent the octopus did he? No copyright. It would have been legitimate if he created an octopus creature with wings, horns, and a lion's tail, copyrighted it, and then someone made a sculpture of it, then that would be legitimate, since it is his original creation.

The Mertailor's "copyright" is probably all smoke and mirrors and he really has no real legal action. The fact that he says he does is probably enough to scare most people into believing him.

Sorry, so much ranting, but NO ONE should be afraid to make or sell their own tails, NOR should they be afraid to write reviews about tails.
None of you should be afraid of the Mertailor. I only hope I have somewhat showed you that lol.

AniaR
08-09-2011, 06:40 PM
The Mertailor's "copyright" is probably all smoke and mirrors and he really has no real legal action.

His copyright is for a sculpture :\ that's it. All you gotta do is prove it's a costume and you're good. lol.

Eric has a lot of paranoia and impulse issues- he believes everyone is out to get him when they're not.

The reason I gave my information to be contributed to this is because Eric works so hard to have bad things deleted and then as you've now seen in this recent "review" threatens people when things don't go their way. He doesn't get to be that horrible to people and then delete- poof- no record- and he can pretend he was always nice and good. Like with the WMA thing, he said all that crap and threw Sita under the bus, then deleted all the posts that went with it, then argued on his page saying he never wrote them to begin with! Not okay.

I try not to be too obsessive but I know myself I am in a fresh hurt since I found out he never actually did apologize to me or the community. Coupled by the fact he stalks me online and this page and does everything he can to make me and the community look bad... I mean, he's a bully. The first thing you learn about the bully dynamic is not to just be a bystander and do nothing you know?

It really gets to me when he tried to take advantage of people's ignorance on copyright and legal matters. I find everything I get myself to a spot where I can let his drama go he pulls something like this and I feel like I have to do or say SOMETHING so he doesnt hurt someone! I honestly feel like if he'd just shut up with the threats and focus on his company and making it better I'd have no problem leaving him alone.

Kanti
08-09-2011, 11:40 PM
Yea of course, but I think that should be on a different page or something.
Eric may be a jerk but that honestly shouldn't interfere with people deciding whether or not they should buy tails from him. Everything you said is somewhat valid because he is trying to hide bad press about his business. That is a VERY bad thing and shouldn't be done. He is going about it immaturely, by threatening, deleting stuff, etc. but there is so much emphasis on the fact that he's doing it negatively rather than the fact that he's doing it. You get me?
I feel like if he was going around being polite about it, this huge page wouldn't be up. But even if he IS polite, that's still a bad business practice. People need to be able to post reviews so we all can see their work exposed. A lot of these posts were merely showing drama by posting the actual screenshot of his conversations when all that needed to be said is "he tries to hide his bad reviews so people can't see them".
After seeing what we saw in the other thread I see what you mean that he's quite immature, but honestly, who cares. If Eric was a nice person I'd be his friend, but if he wasn't I'd just buy a tail from him and never speak to him again. The point is that he makes good or bad tails.
This review was a history of messages that show the mertailor's bad attitude. It may be so that when he sees this posted up he feels his privacy is invaded and he can't make up for it. Possibly he thinks that when people see it they will automatically assume he's a huge jerk and any effort for him to pretend otherwise is a waste of time because the people of this community have already tagged him with a bad name. I saw this when he/she automatically assumed I wanted the Mertailor to go out of business. That may be hinthint for him telling people that you guys just DISLIKE him.

I could just be spouting crap, but a review is a review. All I care for when I see a review is:

Was the product as advertized?
How long did it take to get to me?
How long did it last?
And I suppose - Do reviews suggest the seller and product are good?

Having the actual person be nice to me is just a plus, it's not something I expect. Just so long as their business transactions are done correctly.

AniaR
08-10-2011, 09:28 AM
I understand, but this is labelled as an editorial right? Not a review. And while I totally agree and get your point about the screencapping I think in my opinion and experience with Eric it's just necessary because when you simply say "he did this" not only will he instantly deny it on his FB he'll throw in a couple lies as well and single out the person who complained! I think at least this way he knows people are watching and he cant just accuse everyone with a complaint of lying. But I do see your point. We're fighting drama with drama that never ends well... I was around when we tried to handle it the way you are suggesting, heck I was all for it.. til he started having our posts removed! I would normally be open to giving a person a second chance but he all ready blew that too :P

On a different note, I suggested Mika do a thing on Adam- we had a LOT about him on the yuku page. I sorta forgot about him because he was so publicly disowned from companies he worked with and there was an actual news story about him I dont think he's a threat anymore. But that was some drama. He pissed off the wrong mermaid when he decided to take Melissa's money. There was a huge expose so I guess I never think of him as a threat but you make a good point!

Kanti
08-10-2011, 02:08 PM
You know what, you got me.
You're completely right, this is an editorial and not a review lol.

Still, I just think the whole stalking each other thing is a little strange. I suppose that's what happens when a marketing business
and it's target audience come into contact with each other a lot on such unfriendly terms. I just feel like this post sort of tugs at
people and would make them not even want to give the mertailor a chance because they become personally offended at his
attitude. Either way, I suppose I don't personally care either way.

You're right, I'd rather be warned about something and not make a financial mistake.

mikamer
09-03-2011, 09:57 AM
I'm getting pretty sick of this whole "bad reviews are made by people who lie" BS. Mr. Mertailor makes it fucking hard to ignore him spouting constant crap.

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This is from the new mertailor FAQ. I'm sorry, do you see this BS on Thom Shouse's website? On Mike's website? On any professional mertail maker's website? Nope. Because they aren't all petty. I can't wrap my head around why he keeps lying that everyone who says anything bad is lying. Honestly, level with me here mernetwork- Have you EVER seen a mertailor review that was a lie? Everything I linked to here had lots of evidence and photos etc. I mean let's get real here- would someone really waste 1000's of dollars to purchase a mertailor tail, just to destroy it, and then lie and say it came that way? People are really ignorant and deserve crappy tails if that's what they believe.

Other new updated links people should consider before buying from this guy:
http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?331-Mertailor-pic-from-DA - A photo found on the internet leads some members to actually track down the model and find out she also had a poor experience

http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?60-Mertailor-Review - Raina encounters loads of drama from Eric's boyfriend who decides she is a "cyberbully" for posting a review.

http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?389-The-Mertailor - a positive yet extremely aggressive review surfaces about Eric- the author argues with and insults the community. Instead of linking to the actual review on his page Eric realizes he can control everything better if he posts reviews himself thus being able to delete any negative comments recieved (which is what he clearly does on his page anyway)

some positive reviews:

http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?416-My-mertailor-tail....-I-FINALLY-GOT-IT!-D After a rediculously long wait, angry parents, and forum members speaking up a mermaid finally gets her basic latex tail and is happy.

http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?404-A-Defining-Moment-My-Mertailor-Silicone-Tail Claudefish finally gets the tail of his dreams and his expectations are met.

A few other things of interest for the person considering buying:
-Eric continues to stalk the forum despite certain members agreeing to leave him alone. While Jesse and Andrew post about their hopeful professional businesses and users like Star post the progress of their tail making experiences Eric strives to remind people he is the original "mertailor" (completley ignoring anyone who EVER made a tail before him) and enjoys taking little jabs at the community about scale patterns etc.

-When the new Lady Gaga video arrives featuring a mermaid tail Eric refuses to admit that he did NOT make the tail rather elludes that he might of (which he didn't) because he made 2 tails for her- both mailed back. One has to wonder if Gaga's team didn't simply investigate all the faults with their mertailor tail and then create their own better one.

- Eric along with mermaid melissa were both interviewed about the world mermaid awards- (something Eric had his own drama with anyway when he claimed it wasnt happening when it was) by a radio show- which makes no sense since neither of them attended.

Just some helpful things to consider- since huge attempts are always made to hide the truth.

Winged Mermaid
09-03-2011, 03:45 PM
Actually the only reviews that were found to be false were fake reviews made by Eric himself under a false account. Twice.

I know I get emails from people who have emailed Eric already, asking my opinion. In the emails he says the same thing he's said on his site- that negative reviews are lies from people wanting to get attention. Then he tells people to go to the testimonials page now. I'm sorry, but no one takes testimonials posted by a company seriously. Every infomercial and company in the world posts the positive reviews at "testimonials" on their pages, advertisements, ect. But no one takes them seriously because they KNOW the company only posts the good ones, and they can edit them by whatever means to say/look the way they want. Instead they go and look up reviews from a non bias source (like Amazon for instance).

Saying that "people lie to gain attention" is an extremely unprofessional thing to say, and anyone who reads it will know it immediately. I say let him leave it up. All he's doing is hurting his business for anyone who sees it.

AniaR
09-03-2011, 07:26 PM
He told people my tail cost 100$ and that I was lying to everyone and that I didnt even measure. *rolls eyes* I keep getting messages on youtube about it. Im just so excited to have new tails and to get rid of the mertailor one. Even though Raven did an amazing job fixing it up for me- Id just rather go my separate ways from mertailor. I try not to even look at his page anymore it just makes me angry

AniaR
09-03-2011, 11:03 PM
Mika, as I said Ive been trying to ignore mertailor- but check out these comments on my youtube video. They sound like they're right out of his (I think he must be reading this thread) mouth. Geesh. 1209

this is what Im talking about, how is my video even possible fake at all?!?!? How does someone fake that?!

kazekoh
09-04-2011, 01:18 AM
I saw a post of his yesterday where it was pointed at you Raina. Saying the tail only balloons, tears,or stretches if you try to take the monofin out/ take it apart. But then a lady posted " Mine do all that and I never take apart any thing ???"

That post got deleted so fast it was funny. As yes, I have it screen capped~

I wish he'd just get his act together you know? >: There is no reason to be mean, or really deny that some of his tails were just bad. I have heard of/ seen at least 5 or so tails of his just fall apart, don't fit, and are made of less then par stuff. Its not like its JUST Rania's tail. He can't hide the fact that some of his tails just don't hold up to the grain forever.
I don't know if it is because he is rushing or what. -shrug- If he can't do the tails in the time frame (Even in the case of family issues), and do them right; then he needs to get a waiting list like Mike does. People understand that. They understand life and family. They will wait.

I have been watching this 'debate' for quite some time since I am one of those people who thinks "There is two sides to every story; learn what it is" . In fact, I have encouraged people to post their positive( But HONEST) reviews/storys if they have one after they have had their tail for a while.
However, I have seen time and time again what has happened with people who have dealt with Eric. He makes me uncomfortable by what he posts sometimes and I haven't even ordered anything from him.

Bottom line is: One gets a bad review and One gets them often enough, you aren't making your customers happy. One should think of them as critiques and change your business accordingly.

That's just my two cents. xD;

AniaR
09-04-2011, 09:16 AM
Thing is- unless the monofin and flukes are glued down the tail WILL balloon up. Im not the only one who's proven this- people who are happy with their tails have too. Its funny how he can send me a big email about wanting everything to stop and I agree to it- and the second I let my guard down and start ignoring him and living my life the jabs start coming. I think he's at the point where so many people see that my complaints and the complaints of others are REASONABLE that his last resort it just to accuse us of lying.

Kazekoh- I have had a horrible experience and I STILL encourage people to write good reviews if they've had a good experience. I still CELEBRATE with people when they get a good tail, and when they decide to buy a mertailor tail I wish them luck. The only negative things I do are post my reviews and talk honestly about my experience, and put him in his place when he tries to pull crap on the community like empty legal threats. I could do so much more if I wanted to! The last people he pissed off made SURE that you couldn't find a good word about him anywhere on the internet. His facebook, youtube, and emails got hacked and everything deleted. Anyone who could publicly wrote on their pages, the forum, etc. how much they didn't support him. All I do is stick to the forum with my truth. I dont go out and argue with people who like him - some of my friends are happy mertailor customers and the first thing I get out of the way with them when I meet them is that I dont care they have a good tail that's fine I'll never bring it up to them! I dont post stuff all over my FB I dont even post on my statuses stuff like "I dont support mertailor", I dont stalk his youtube like he seems to be doing to mine and comment with a bunch of fake profiles all over his stuff.

I think Im too naive. Just like the first time when I quickly accepted his "apology". When someone says they're done I usually believe them and go my own way. he makes that impossible. I feel really really bad for him. As an artist myself I know it's not fun to accept a bad review or critique but to become so obsessive as he is with our community- He's totally missing all the good that happens here, all the amazing people, and all the great information. He's missing out on something that could benefit his company. That paranoia and fear rule his life. It's really sad, and protecting myself against mertailor takes up waaaay too much of my time as is. I have a LIFE. With real priorities, with people who are important to me, as long as mertailor leaves us alone I have very little interest in anything he does. Thought I made that clear, but apparently not.

/end rant

Mermaid Jewel
09-04-2011, 09:41 AM
I totally understand where you're coming from, Raina. I don't have any experience with Mertailor or his stuff so even though I've been following the debate, I decline to comment usually. But I understand the art thing too, I hate it when I have something I think is amazing and someone says is bad. Also if I know I didn't put all my effort into a piece for some reason and people still point out every flaw, even though they don't know I couldn't put all my work into it. Though, the slander and slamming was a bit unnecessary.

And this whole deal doesn't seem to be affecting your success much :D Wish you luck!

kazekoh
09-04-2011, 01:03 PM
Yeah I understand that Raina. I just dislike when people attack a person like you who has tried to be the peace bringer and everything. There is a reason why I came to support you rather then him.
I don't know why he is singleing you out. >: It just bothers me greatly. As you said, if he left us alone, we'll leave him alone. But it seems he forgets that.

I agree with not antagonizing him, or people on purpose though. I have not posted on my facebook page or even main facebook that I hate him or don't buy from him (I don't hate by the way. He just makes me annoyed..) Only time I have even posted on his page was when the whole drama that started on his end and I was pretty nice I thought. I keep most of my thoughts to myself....Most. lol.
I am happy for people who have good tails too~ I hope to see more of them.

I'm an art major. If you don't accept the critique you are given gracefully in some of my classes (By Classmates or the teacher), your grade gets lowered. So I have verrry little sympathy on that corner lol xD; Gotta love school for that.

Alveric
09-04-2011, 05:05 PM
Sadly, as a Civil War reenactor, I've seen this happen before when someone with talent, but no business sense try to turn a hobby into a business. Things eventually spiral into the ground with bitterness alround. Sad. He was probably once, and apparently sometimes still is a good tail maker.

Alveric

MermaidAubrin
09-04-2011, 06:39 PM
Sadly, as a Civil War reenactor, I've seen this happen before when someone with talent, but no business sense try to turn a hobby into a business. Things eventually spiral into the ground with bitterness alround. Sad. He was probably once, and apparently sometimes still is a good tail maker.

Alveric yeah i get what you mean and although he has been pretty rude to the mer communty i feel bad that his dream sine he was very young turn out so badly

inactive account
09-06-2011, 06:16 PM
seem's like once upon a time Eric made mermaid tails because he wanted other people's dreams to come true, now he makes them for money-that's it, at the end of the day if hes getting over $1000.00 off someone he dosent give a sh*t whether the tail is good or bad. Got another idea too- If Eric had a 'BAD' review and they try to tell him or post photos of it, all he ahs to do is block the person on facebook and by email. LOVE how his silicone tail photos are photoshoped aswell as the latex ones seeing as in his photos there are no mushy seams but in real life there are.

AniaR
09-08-2011, 10:39 PM
Neotail, he musta seen your post. He said on his FB no seams. I dont think his silicone ones have seams though- not from anything I can see. But I know his Alex ones do.

Claudefish
09-08-2011, 10:51 PM
Raina and Mika (for a sec thought yall were the same person =P) Stop Obsessing over Eric!!! For christ's sake!!

jukumerboii
09-09-2011, 04:42 AM
YEA I THINK WE'VE ALL KNOW WHAT IS REALLY UP,,WE JUST ALL NEED TO LEAVE HIM BE AND JUST LEAVE THIS WHERE IT IS AT! RAINA U R GETTING NEW TAILS THAT ARE GOING TO SLAY THE ONE U HAVE NOW! LET'S ALL JUST TAKE DEEP BREATHES AND MOVE ON TO MORE POSITIVE THINGS! ERIC WILL BE ERIC NO MATTER WHAT! IM SURE ONCE MORE TAIL MAKERS COME OUT TO SLAY MER-BLOOD...LET'S JUST SAY HE MIGHT TRY TO FIX UP THINGS!! SN: he need to start paying homage to the ORIGINAL TAIL MAKER; THOM SHOUSE! that is all

AniaR
09-09-2011, 07:16 AM
Raina and Mika (for a sec thought yall were the same person =P) Stop Obsessing over Eric!!! For christ's sake!!
oh yes, I'm well aware of what he tells people ;)
I think I've proven I can ignore Eric when he leaves me alone, when he starts sending jabbing messages and using alt accounts to contact me I have every right to talk about it- especially when I;ve agreed to leaving him alone. Not everyone ended up with a nice silicone tail like yours claudio ;) I just think it's kinda ironic you say that since every second post he makes on his page is some personal jab at someone or some thread on the forum. So maybe pass along the same advice to him so everyone can breathe <3


WILL BE ERIC NO MATTER WHAT!

This is true- and I agree with what you said about Thom Shouse- but I found an interview like, a year ago, and the link no longer works where it talks a little more about his thom shouse thing

AniaR
09-09-2011, 08:55 AM
Edit: typing from my phone so I apologize in advanced for typos etcI first responded to this on my way out so I didn't get a chance to really think much but I'll admitOn my bus ride I did. So I have a few things to say: I acknowledge and talk about mertailor in 2 places: this thread and mine. That's it. I post in response to others comments or when something new happens to me I talk about it. I don't talk about it on my FB page, website, in vlogs or anything/place else. Ignoring Eric doesn't make him stop or go away. Every single time I personally choose to ignore him he does something big and bad against me like when his BF posted slander about me or his alt account talking to me on youtube. If I were "obsessive" I'd do what melissa did back when she was angry with him and make every post about him, make alt accounts constantly, recruit upset customers, post all over my page and website and videos, and tell a magazine. I really resent being called obsessive when I have constant personal experiences and I post in apropriate places, I'm polite and respectful to people who post good things etc. And like I said I find it ironic I'm being told this by someone (and claudio I say this with respect- I've been Erics fb friend I KNOW he'll tell people anything to get support, he'll only talk to you when he needs help, and takes no personal interest in you at all. I have no doubt he asked you to post nice things/defend him because he asked me to do the same thing.) When as I said all ready he spends so much time personally calling out people on his FB page and obsessiving over me and the forum.And at the end of the day- you're all still reading and responding to these threads when you could be ignoring too. It's so easy to tell someone to do that until you're on the receiving end. I get upwards of 25-35 emails a week about all this stuff so believe me when I tell you I could post a whole lot more. I just encourage people to post their own stories but people are terrified if they do they won't get a good tail or the drama will be set on them. I remember when I first joined mer yuku no one would post honestly out of fear for bad treatment. That's a big reason why I don't let go and I would be that way regardless of the persn trying to do it. I think I've proven that with other issues I've stood up for such as the salmon farming happening in my city and the power tripping going on there. (I post about that frequently on my page)I'm not going to "ignore" when he tells people I'm a liar who didn't buy my tail from him who's lying to get attention. "Lying" about my tail doesn't get me more fans or gigs- so I'm still unclear about how that would be helping me...

jukumerboii
09-10-2011, 12:58 AM
:hail: Raina u are the best i swear!!! for the simple fact that u let people know whats really up and u tell them in a respectful way! u are so brave and speak up for ur self when u have to and i have 1000% respect for that in anybody!

AniaR
09-10-2011, 01:26 AM
People dont have to agree with me, I love you guys -everyone here. I know I can get carried away and I work really hard to keep that in check. Im just stressed out with health stuff and moving and school and other stuff lately. I dont have TIME to follow mertailor's every move online and the times when I feel like I have to follow him because he pulls stuff are very stressful. At the end of the day though I'd rather he pick on me than someone else because I know my rights and the law and like I said the biggest reason why I can't let things go is because the second I do I seem him pull something on someone else. You guys dont have to agree with me or like what I say, but at least let me post about my experiences in the appropriate places eh? ;) <3

jukumerboii
09-11-2011, 12:02 AM
speaking nothing but the TRUTH!!

Claudefish
09-12-2011, 09:38 PM
Let me make something perfectly clear, as it would seems that you have the wrong impression of the whole FB thing: Eric, only recently, friended me on Facebook. Though at one point i was on his fb friend list, he took mee off of it cuz i was blowing up his page and email with questions about my tail, and after a couple days had decided to unfriend me to try and keep a separation of his work and personal life. I had no problem with that =)). Eric did not need to ask me to write a good review for him, but he did ask me to "write a review, stating the facts whether good or bad." unbeknownst to him, I had already typed up a review by the time he called to see if i had gotten my tail in the mail, and had just posted it XD Anyway, Steph, you are right. I do not see you obsessing, and I was just a bit irritated until i saw that this thread bad been up for a while. I know that you had a similar experience with him as i did last year, but am happy to say that it looks as though you have taken the necessary steps with your tail (as I did with mine) to make it work, and have continuously used it for various projects. I just retired my old tail...and am giving some serious thought to giving it one last paintjob, and putting it in a glass frame or case, for even though I had problems with it, I was able to take steps to work with it, and it did, in fact, serve to be an awesome first tail over all.

AniaR
09-13-2011, 09:10 AM
Claude I want you to know I am VERY happy that you got the tail you wanted :) when people ask me I tell them my experience but I also always point them in the direction of yours. You deserved a great fin-tastic tail after everything you went through... and you looked so gosh darned happy in all your photos especially at the mer awards :)

I think you should totally frame the first tail too! It's great for sentimental reasons but I think that would be one killer art piece for people to talk about on the wall :)