Neoprene Glaucus atlanticus tail (aka Blue Sea Slug tail )

[Ilyena]

Hi Mers,

Just thought I'd start this for anyone who was interested. I'm making a neoprene tail (and top) to imitate the Blue Sea Slug and going to try and make the tail tentacles 3D by using vinyl tubing.
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Already bought is the neoprene and a few other things, so while waiting for the paint I've started on a matching top (which in the pic is upside down..whoops)
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Once I finish the fluke design I'll post a pic...maybe (although I've posted a similar pic in the tail designs thread, it wasn't finalised then), but I need to put a zip in to get the monofin out and I have no idea since it has tentacles.

Hugs and fishes ^_^

[Blondie]

Ooohhh!! I love this!

[MermaidNadia]

Wow, fantastic and unique. Looks like you have the touch of a seamstress. What paints are you going to use? I am also working on some neoprene tails and so far my paint jobs have been total failures. Can't seem to find the right stuff...
I appreciate seeing inspiring work like yours...

[Ilyena]

^_^, thanks. I hope it works out how I'm planning, tried out the 3D part before on scrap fabric and it works pretty good, if it doesn't work on the neoprene then it'll be a wide fluke >_<.
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I'm using Lumiere paint, by Jacquard and heat setting it after every layer, the test patches are holding up well in the water (be it only the shower but still). Aww that's so sweet :)

[BayouMermaid]

A couple of weeks ago, my beau and I were talking about how cool a glaucus atlanticus tail would be. I am so excited to see this come together :) Good luck!

[Ilyena]

Thats awesome . I've had this plan sketched up for a few months, Hopefully I can do this gorgeous creature justice . Thanks for the support ^_^

[Mizuko]

This is going to be amazing! :D I cant wait to see your progress! :D

[Ilyena]

I hope so Mizuko >_<, so far so good. I've drawn out the pattern, cut out the neoprene and tried it on, then had to re cut as it was a bit big in places.

[starlite]

great ! i love to see the end !

[Ilyena]

Neoprene has been sewn together and velcro attached to the bottom 'tentacles' so I can get the monofin out. I was hoping to add a zip instead but there's no where to put one for the monofin XP. Now just waiting for the paint.

[SeaGlass Siren]

Youll look like a Pokemon :) the sea slug tail is such an awesome idea

[Ilyena]

Thanks ^_^. I can't see how I'll look like a pokemon?? but it's an amusing idea.



Awesome ideas don't always work out in real life... I somehow think this tail might not be as easy to swim in and more just for asthetics.

[Kumori Kitsune]

that looks amazing

[Ilyena]

Well the only picture I have on my computer at the moment is the cut out parts, tacked together for fitting.... Do these things always make ones butt look big?? lol
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[Merman Dan]

Outstanding! I actually used the Glaucus nudi as the inspiration for a sea dragon in my D&D game.

[Mermaid Saphira]

This tail is sure to be amazing! I love the style of the top :)

[Ilyena]

Dan: Thanks. That sounds really cool

Saphira: Thank you, I hope it meets expectations ^_^

[teeth4u]

I love this! It is so unique and different! I can't wait to see more :D

[Spindrift]

This looks like a great project! I've only ever seen Doreen Virtue's tail that also had the Glaucus Atlanticus look. Definitely cool to see another!

[Jadestone]

eeeee I love this!!!! I loooooove nudibranches, especially this one!! I've doodled designs based off it before but I've never seriously considered making one, so I'm glad you have!! Can't wait to see how this turns out :D I also love your top!!

Re: patterns making the butt look big... I know this wasn't a serious question, but actually, yes they all do! Because it's a measure of the circumfrence of the body, not the diameter/silhouette, tail patterns will always look MUCH curvier/more dramatic than your actually legs. Your legs aren't 2d, so the tail has to fit in not just the width of your body but the height, making the pattern look much larger than your body normally does lol. So never fear :)

[Ilyena]

Eva: Thanks :D, I haven't seen many slug tails XP

Spindrift: I don't think I've seen that one XP

Jadestone: Thank you ^_^. I figured that, but it's just amusing looking at it like O_O.... lol

[Ilyena]

Well I started painting the top, and I'm really not happy with how its turning out (only the top tentacle and top part of the center has been worked on mostly). Comments/criticism??

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[MerEmma]

I love the fluke!

[Ilyena]

Thank you ^_^. Uni has been taking up my time lately and will do so for the next 2 weeks so I can't work on it :(

[Ilyena]

So I finally got the glue so I can stick the neoprene together before sewing, test patch it currently drying so I'll see how that goes before sticking the whole thing together. I bought a zip to hide between the dorsal so it can be easily removable, and that is about as far as I have been able to get with study and such. Though planning to move place soon so finishing may take a while longer :(.

[Fun123joker]

OOOOO OOOOOOO OOOOOOO OOOOO CREATIVE

[Ilyena]

Thanks ^_^.

Oh my test patch has dried (well not completely cured ) and I've tried pulling it in every direction and almost hit myself when my fingers slipped.
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Don't mind Zazu...he loves pictures of himself >_<

And I still am going to do a zigzag stitch over the top, so I'm pretty sure the seems wont go anywhere...hopefully -fins crossed-

[JamesGunnels]

how much was your roll of neoprene...?

[Ilyena]

I paid $200 (including postage)....but mind you I'm also making a wetsuit with what I bought and there may be enough for another tail, less elaborate though and it may have a couple extra seems.

[Echidna]

You're all so creative!!

Nudibranches are among the prettiest sea creatures imo.
I probably would've tried to not only base the colours on it, but make the "tailbody" look like one too.

Crawling along the poolbottom could be a problem though xD

[Ilyena]

I completely agree with you with the prettiest, they have such a diverse morphological range.

I sketched a few times with making the body look like one but it didn't seen right/not my thing, but it could be an idea for someone else, more Nudibranch tails the better XP.
Might not be a problem as this species floats up and down the water column...though the stares one might get lol

[Echidna]

Might not be a problem as this species floats up and down the water column...though the stares one might get lol

Oh, I can do that!
In fact, I do that a lot when swimming xD
it's done with a synchro swimming technique, sculling.

Because I found so many gross and dangerous things in the pools I go to, I usually spend some time in the beginning of my swim just floating up and down just beneath the surface, checking the bottom AND watercolumn for things.

Funnily enough, I get a lot of aggravated stares (people probably think I do it only to watch them from below :rolleyes:),
unless I lie still on the poolbottom.
With one exception, no-one has ever bothered to check whether I might have drowned :p

[Echidna]

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For a tail, I'd just have to make one of my snaketail models, and add some needle-shaped fins on the sides (maybe with shelf-liner?).
Not sure about the big wings on top though.
Those would make swimming quite hard.

Anyway
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something like this would make a nice set!

[Ilyena]

I think they closed my pool once cause of something they found in the water...but usually its ok and adults don't look at me funny. Kids get a laugh as i swim under only to smile and wave while they frantically try and get another breath just to look under again. Life guards aren't doing their job >_<

I think that is why they float, cause those fins have no real function other than for directional and stability. That last picture looks pretty ^_^

[Ashton]

Where did you buy your neoprene from?

[Ilyena]

I got it from http://www.linkron.com.au/ . They're very friendly and helpful ^_^, though shipping out of Australia may be different

[Ilyena]

UPDATE: after a slow painting start on the second half... I ran out of paint and won't be able to get more until the new year as I'm away till the 5th Jan :(. Any who, just a picture of the second side, only just started blending the central line. 16434

I learnt if you are going to paint the whole tail, to not buy coloured neoprene, and should have just stuck to white....takes up too much paint to cover the bright blue.

[Ilyena]

Erro all,

Little bit of an update, have finished more than the pictures I will be attaching, but thats all that is on my computer at the present time.

Making the fluke 3D is proving to be harder than first thought and for future all 3D tails I think shall be left to the silicone ones.
The 3D part im working on odd view
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Under side of fluk...not exactly pretty
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Half fluke view, the other half is folded under
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Scrap paint test with a seam
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Dorsal fin ^_^
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hopefully I shall have it completed before I go back to uni, but the seams of the fluke are providing to be a bit of a challenge :/

[Aino Revontuletar]

This is so cool! I love nudibranches as well! That is really clever the way you have managed to make it 3D

[Spindrift]

Please keep going! This is going to turn out really awesome looking!

[Miyu]

OOH SO PRETTY :swoon:

[Ashton]

This is a really cool concept~ I say keep going!

[Dee Tal]

I'm so excited to see this progress. Thanks for posting updates. I love extremely unique tails.

[Mermaid Dottie]

Yup, I love this. I hope you don't have any problems with those tubes. They look really neat though.

[Mizuko]

This is looking so awesome! :D

[Bellasea]

This is amazing! I can't wait to see more. Good job :D

[Jessica]

This is such a unique design!! :) I can't wait to see it finished!

[Ilyena]

Oh wow, didn't expect this many responses XP. Thank you mers soo much ^_^, it's nice to have such a supportive community <3.

Just a quick count...8 tubs of paint...yep definitely using white instead of blue neoprene next time >_<

[spottedcatfish]

I love this concept!

[*Celine*]

So far this is looking GREAT!!!

[Ilyena]

Thank you. I have figured that this may be more of an esthetic tail rather than functional >_<

[AtalontheDeer]

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For a tail, I'd just have to make one of my snaketail models, and add some needle-shaped fins on the sides (maybe with shelf-liner?).
Not sure about the big wings on top though.
Those would make swimming quite hard.

Anyway
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something like this would make a nice set!


Ohhhh very nice design somthing i like n sort of costuming.

[Ilyena]

After a redo of one half of the dorsal (had to scrap it completely) they're finally done :D



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[Mermaid Melanie]

beautiful ! <3 Nudibranchs !

[Azurin Luna]

Ooh, very nice :D

[Mermaid Caspiana]

Can't wait to see this finished! It's looking so cool!

[Ilyena]

Thank you all for the encouragement. I have slowly been persevering.

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I would have preferred to only glue the tentacles but the have to be stitched also as the glue doesn't stick them together completely. But I can say the serrated like edges are to keep predators away XP

Edit: tried making the last one visible but it's duplicating itself and being annoying, sorry

[Ashton]

The last 3 photos for some reason wont show up... But the progress looks really cool so far, I really love your unique design.

[Mermaid Mhara]

This looks amazing so far! :) keep it up, can't wait to see it finished!

[MermanZen]

Soooooo beautiful love your blue sea slug idea hope to see it in action

[Ilyena]

Yayy...another set back...-pouts-

So, for the fluke to have the shape I want it has to be completely sealed, which means another zip has to be put in, and hope the fluke fits through it :/.

Other than that, there are a couple of tentacles which kink/not straight, which was unintentional but awesome XP
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[Mermaid Dottie]

I'm loving your progress. This is seriously going to be SO awesome when you're done. Nobody has made a tail like this, so all this hard stuff you're encountering, just consider yourself a tailmaking pioneer!

[Ilyena]

Hehe, Aww thank you ^_^. Pioneer, maybe not, I wouldn't do something like this again, nor recommend it. But if someone wants to do it go right ahead :)

[Mermaid Dottie]

What I mean is, people can learn from following your progress.

[Ilyena]

Fair enough, and probably find an easier way to do it too lol.

[Ilyena]

Had a mer-meet yesterday ^_^, had so much fun. Tried out my neoprene tentacle top. It held up beautifully :D
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[Ashton]

looks good!

[MermanZen]

Beautiful Ilyena

[teeth4u]

The top looks awesome! I love the way it turned out and can't wait to see more of the tail.

[Ilyena]

Thank you ^_^.

It's almost done :D.

I thought I had posted this picture of the difference between the two flukes after the tentacles were raised on one.
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[Mermaid Caspiana]

I love it and can't wait to see this in the water! :D

[Mermaid Dottie]

Nice! The top looks comfy. And I'm with Caspiana. That thing is gonna look so cool swimming.

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[Mermaid Tula]

So awesome! It's looking fantastic!

[Mermaid Adriel]

So realistic! **

[*Celine*]

It looks really good, awesome!!!

[Ilyena]

Woo..another set back :'( <-literally. The struggle between re-seaming the whole top half of the tail and leaving it because the seams when worn bend. It's hard to explain, bend in and out next to the body.... WAIT crappy paint picture to the rescue XP 19257

So yea, also have run out of glue using it all to smooth areas, probably shouldn't have done that until I tried it on again. Any ideas on how to fix it rather than cutting my nice seams??

[Mermaid Dottie]

So, your seams wrinkle because it's too big? Have you thought about cutting a slit in back and adding a type of dorsal frill? Do you have a duct tape dummy of your legs? That might help you fit it when you do manage to adjust it.

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[Ashe]

I've had that wrinkle problem before with my tails. All that needs to be done (in MY case) is just to try and re size and re sew the affected areas. You'll want to be careful not to do this too many times especially with neoprene because taking out the thread can and most likely will leave holes. It should be a fairly easy fix, however, seeing how wonderfully that top was sewn!

I just found this thread today (I was off the network for a looooooong time!) The tail is looking great! One of the best neoprene tails I've seen! I can wait to see how it is finished :)

[Ilyena]

Hey Mers.

I apologise for those who wanted to see this finished, but I have been having a little trouble finding the motivation to finish this (very very low presently, due to circumstances at home), and have been working on a few other smaller un-related mer things. I will get it done...one day, but currently it is still on my floor taking up space :/. Though that poses another question...since I have found folding creates creases and makes lines in the paint (found those too on mine when i bend it to work on it), how does one store a neoprene tail without creating more permanent creases???

[Azurin Luna]

I have neoprene tailes, and I hang mine on a hanger with a wide roll over which the tail is draped, it will still crease a little, but when I start swimming they disappear. I don't know about pained tails though, cause mine are not painted at all.

[Mermaid Kelda]

You could make one of those wall/standing hangers a lot of mers seem to use. MerMatt recently posted his here: http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?8052-First-Silicone-Tail-Swim&p=127667&viewfull=1#post127667

[Ilyena]

I've seen a couple similar to that one where the pipes go inside but not around the outside. Thank you ^_^

[Ilyena]

Well....it's been a while and a long journey to get this tail finished. Between getting frustrated with it and almost giving up. Blood, sweat and tears have shed. It's in its final stages of coating with a thing layer of silicone cause of all of the paint work, I don't fancy it to rub off anytime soon. The silicone has made it a bit more textured and like it's still wet. Photoshoot with a good friend of mine in the next couple of days. but a sneak peak of the dorsal area for tonight ^_^

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[Mermaid Wesley]

Woo!


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[OceanWhisper]

This is going to look incredible I bet!! :D I love this type of nudibranch

[Ilyena]

OMG ITS FINALLY DONE AND TOUCHABLE (not the icky sticky silicone feeling)
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The tentacle tips curl in odd ways, which I think is awesome.

[OceanWhisper]

omg it's pretty and looks really pearlescent :D awesome :pearl:

[Starfrit]

D: OH MY COD ILYENA IT'S GORGEOUS!!

[Miyu]

WOW! :jawdrop::clap:

[PearlieMae]

That is so freaking awesome! Can't wait to see it swim!

[Mermaid Jessica Pearl]

OMG IT IS A WORK OF ART!

[Mermaid Aika]

That tail is gorgeous!!!

[Meronica]

How cute!! It reminds me of the Pokemon Lugia...I wonder if it was based off of the same sea slug? o:

Pardon my nerd moment.

[Yulia]

How cute!! It reminds me of the Pokemon Lugia...I wonder if it was based off of the same sea slug? o:

Pardon my nerd moment.

"Lugia's tendency for being underwater resembles plesiosaurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/plesiosauria). It is also possible that Lugia is based on Ryūjin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ry%C5%ABjin), a dragon who lived on the ocean floor and was the Shinto god of the sea. The two have similarities in mythology, and Lugia's Shiny colors (red and white) are the same colors as the coral Ryujin's palace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ry%C5%ABg%C5%AB-j%C5%8D) was made of. The beluga whale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/beluga_whale), a white whale with a similar body shape and coloration to Lugia, may also be a basis for Lugia's design and name. Lugia's back fins and tail spikes are reminiscent of the Stegosaurus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stegosaurus)."

[Meronica]

Well he certainly looks more like this sea slug than a beluga whale! [emoji14]

[Ilyena]

Oh wow, people commented -gets happily flustered- ^_^ Thank you heaps, too many frustrating moments happened with it, but it's all over now and weirdly was quite worth it. Re-seamed it 3 times which killed my wrist and fingers lol. Only 10 tubs of paint.

But I hope it can swim, with the pipes inside the fluke, I'm not entirely sure, might be more of a dry/shore line tail.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Wooow it's lovely!


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[Ilyena]

Thank you ^_^.

It weights 7kg, took me 15 minutes to squeeze my rear into it and do both the zips up, (not including the time it took me to get the monofin in)
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[Mermaid Wesley]

Oh gosh it's amazing!! I'm serious it's fantastic.


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[Azurin Luna]

Looks very nice :D
Love the uniqueness of it :D

[Toxotes]

It's a really beautiful tail! You can see the lot of work in it.

[Echidna]

:jawdrop: WOW!

It looks soo beautiful!
That tail rocks.

Congratulations!

[Vrindavana Starfish]

That is seriously amazing!

[OceanRose]

Spectacular tail!! so different and awesome, well done girl!

[Ilyena]

Aww thank you mers ^_^, <3 <3 to everyone.

I'm so happy its finally done only took about a year since the neoprene arrived lol. 3D neoprene fluke vision was a success!!!

[Ilyena]

Whoop, well back from holidays and tried taking my tail for its maiden voyage. I need weights as its really buoyant, especially the fluke and how much air the tubes hold if i don't submerge it completely/get the air out. Missed a few parts with the silicone and noticed the paint peeling, that part is fixed now, but a new zipper needs to be put in as part of the teeth part came away from the fabric it was attached to. Fluke is soo heavy to lift one it's full of water (see image below). It's hard to swim in, especially in the shallows, wasn't game to go deep where we went as it's a known reef that has sharks. Fluke doesn't bend much due to the pipes but I'll get used if I could move my body more. Though as this slug floats in the water column...who needs to swim lol. But I love it, just got to get used to moving in it and how it's more restrictive. Gah so happy its done (besides the zip) ^_^

Now for those who read my boring rant, here is a couple of pictures as a reward :P Though please ignore my weird facial expressions, dad isn't the best photographer and was just clicking the big button and it was really sunny >_<
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[Echidna]

wonderful!

That tail really stands out.
Hopefully no one will go and copycat it :P

Maybe it will even serve as shark intimidator with that colour scheme.
(Isn't that slug poisonous?)

[SeaGlass Siren]

holy jebus... that's the most realistic looking sea slug tail i've ever seen... Much respect to you missie!

[MermaidStormy]

You look amazing <3

[Mermaid Jaffa]

Wowee! Amazing work!

I reckon you could go in the reef anyways. The sharks will just think you're one giant sea slug and won't mess with you.

[Ilyena]

Echidna: Thank you ^_^. This slug eats poisonous jellyfish and stores the poison in the tentacle things and ultimately concentrates it, therefore being more poisonous that what it ate XP.

Seaglass and Stormy: Thank you :D.

Jaffa: Not quite sure, I don't think these slugs come down this far. But I'd rather not test the theory :)

[JamesGunnels]

How well does it propel you through the water?

[Ilyena]

Not quite sure as I have only recently gotten the weights to use with it and it was only shallow there. But it went quite nicely along the surface, it is more of a cruising, slow movement tail :)

[Echidna]

^^heh, I think most tails are more cruising, slow movement, whatever they're made of xD

A speeding tail would have to look very different from the usual, pretty fancy tails with fins and stuff.
...and now I've got ideas.

[Ilyena]

Yay ideas. But yes pretty tails are more slow and graceful than built for speed :)

[Mermaid Galene]

What a fabulous tail, Ilyena! Well done.

[Vela]

Ilyena,

This is a beautiful tail!! I am so inspired and really need to start on my tail! I have had my neoprene for almost a year and just have been lacking inspiration! But your tail is fantastic!! How did you seal the paint with the silicone? was it painted on? Great work! Hope you can swim better in it soon!!!

[Ilyena]

Hey Koti ^_^, This tail took a year for me to do lol, though maybe a month if I had worked on it more often.

The silicone was thinned down with terpentine till it was like pancake batter then painted on...though, I got frustrated with the brushes losing bristles and gumming up that I just used my fingers and the silicone leveled itself out mostly. A couple of areas needed a second coat as a batch I made was a little too runny :P

[Mermaid Danielle]

This tail is incredible! Great job!

[Vixy]

Wow! that looks epic and amazing, love the colours and the fins. :D

[Ilyena]

Well it was about time I swam properly in this monstrosity. Video to come from the Adelaide Mer-meet, which shows swimming and attempting to flip.

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I had 2kg of weight on me, but I need ankle weights as the fluke is buoyant as well a buoy, and it took much of my energy to try and stay down so I wasn't able to stay under the water as long. Oh well. Few problems with it now but can't do much with it as this tail was a learning curve.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Beautiful!

[Ashton]

I love your fluke!

[Mermaid Galene]

This tail turned out so well! Love it.

[Ilyena]

Thank you!!! <3

Here's the video from the days swim. Was an effort to swim in it. Should have gotten the video of putting it on, that was funny :P

https://youtu.be/Rryq_qCzQuc
You may have to adjust the quality setting.

[OceanWhisper]

The fluke looks really nice in the water :) Not too flowy, not too still

[Ilyena]

Thank you ^_^, it's surprisingly flowy considering the plumbing in the fluke lol.

[Mermaid Menanna]

Whoop, well back from holidays and tried taking my tail for its maiden voyage. I need weights as its really buoyant, especially the fluke and how much air the tubes hold if i don't submerge it completely/get the air out.
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Just saw this thread, haven't read all of it yet, but was thinking... those tubes in the fluke and your issue of them filling with air/water... if you ever try that again, try some silicone sealant inside the tubes, should be able to pump it in with a syringe. That would avoid air or water getting inside of them and keep them somewhat lightweight at the same time. :) Great tail. You've given me some new ideas for fin rays in my fluke. Thanks!

[Ilyena]

I thought of that, but it would be way thicker than any silicone fluke out there since its almost 3-4cm thick on the thickest tubes. I can open the fluke to get the monofin out so its not entirely closed off, just needs more drainage (fault on my behalf for using too much glue).

Thank you. Glad it has helped in someways and people can learn from the problems this method involves

[Mermaid Menanna]

I am considering using boning for fin rays in my fluke... lightweight, flexible, and solid, though I can see it wouldn't give the dimensions you used for yours, I think the effect will be similar. I have already decided to line the outer edges with it so that it holds shape out of water. (spandex tail)

[Ilyena]

Great idea ^_^, wish you luck in making it and can't wait too see

[Marie Gremillion]

Cool! I had been considering a glaucus atlanticus tail for a while but if you're already doing one I don't want to copy you. Back to the drawing board I guess, any suggestions? I like blues and blue/greens but I can't seem to find any mer worthy fish to use and not clash with my friend (who is doing a mother of pearl themed tail.

[Mermaid Alea]

I can't speak directly for Ilyena, but a lot of mers are inspired by the same fish/animal/color, etc. Even though there are a lot of tails out there inspired by say, large mouth bass, they are all uniquely different looking. I think as long as you make your idea for having a galaucus atlanticus tail different looking from Ilyena's it will be fine. Also, nothing says you have to limit your inspiration to just one sea creature. You could do a mix between the galaucus atalanticus and a betta fish, or something like that.

Once you know your inspiration I find it helps to sketch a lot of tail designs. Eventually you will come up with a design that you love that will be uniquely you! ;)

[Ilyena]

Exactly what Alea said. I'm not the only one who has made/been inspired by the nudibranch, and certainly won't be the last. I know I'm going to be creating a neoprene tail base for someone else who has a completely different take on the blue sea slug and wants to paint their own. But every one i have seen, even though they're inspired and based on the same animal, they're all different.

[Echidna]

Only just now saw the underwater pic and video.
The tail is mezmerizing!

Very unique. You must be so proud :)

[Lindsey Yow]

So amazing, beautiful and very unique!

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[Ilyena]

Echidna: Thank you, I loved it and was soo happy when it was done. I have only swam in it twice and worn it to a dry event once. I did soo many errors I don't think I can wear it again though (dry event only), without taking the whole thing apart and redoing it, swimming with it is a great effort and won't be done again.

Thank you Lindsay!

[Echidna]

That's sad to hear, as it looks so lovely underwater.

But I have my share of pretty tails that are hassle to swim in, I eventually decided to favour efficiency over beauty, at least for swimming.

[Ilyena]

I'm sure I can still use it as a dry event tail once I have the time to fix it. I have other tails till the :)