I'm So Angry About This Situation I Could Scream! Please! Help her!

[Mermaid Dottie]

(Edited to provide a summary:
Justina Pelletier was diagnosed with an illness, and was being cared for properly and under the physician's direction. They took her to the hospital for the flu. She had to switch hospitals. Some doctor at Boston State Hospital took one look at her, didn't even glance at her medical family history, didn't call her regular doctor, and said her illness was all in her head. Now the hospital is holding the teen prisoner, and letting her health deteriorate. She gets few phone calls and even fewer visits from her family, all because the Hospital is restricting them. It has been this way for a flippin' YEAR. )

I just read a news article about a man who defied a judges gag order in order to get information about his daughter's "treatment" out to the public. This is horrendous. I just... I have no words... I'm so angry and upset by this.
The article was on my facebook feed. See the url below.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/17/ready-jon-father-so-heartbroken-about-daughter-held-at-hospital-against-his-will-he-just-defied-a-judges-order-to-talk-to-us-i-want-to-have-all-my-guns-blazing/#


I read the article. I became angry. I watched the video at the end of the article and became livid.
I cannot express this enough.
NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE A CHILD FROM A LOVING AND SAFE HOME AND TORTURE AND NEGLECT IN THIS MANNER!!!!!

There is a petition posted by a supporter on their facebook pag (https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Miracle-for-Justina/253343311469595)e that I'm going to link here. I really urge everyone to sign this. I'm so worried for this girl's safety that if I didn't have a child to care for myself, I would break into the hospital and get her out of there, no hesitation!

This is not a joke, a scam, or a simple case of a mistaken diagnosis, this is some (pardon my language) sonnovabitch dumbass peiceashit doctor who thinks he can get gain or glory from saying this girl's illness (diagnosed and successfully treated for years, with a family history, and everything) is all in her head, and he somehow thinks he can magically make her better through "Behavioural adjustment" or whatever the hell he wants to label his torture methods. I'm not happy right now, guys. Not. Happy.

Here is the Petition guys (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/free-justina-pelletier-boston-children-hospitals-custody/l0llfVPK). Please go sign it. This is the greatest most amazing community on the net. Let's show Boston State Hospital that what they're doing is morally wrong!

[SeaGlass Siren]

what in the fuck???

[SeaGlass Siren]

i have to create an account to sign up.. .__. is this a united states only site?

[Mermaid Dottie]

I don't think so. They only require Name, Email, and to do they're "I'm not a robot" test. They ask for a postal code, but it's not required.

[SeaGlass Siren]

they asked me to make an account .__.

[Mermaid Dottie]

Yes, you do have to sign up, but I think it's just to make sure the same person isn't signing over and over.

[Mermaid Dottie]

I also want to Highly HIGHLY recommend watching the video at the bottom of the article as it illustrates through video and pictures just how badly Justina's health has deteriorated under this Boston Doctor's "care".

[Echidna]

Things like this make me lose my faith in humanity, doctors, officials, and government.
Owait, I lost that years ago!

It reminds me of certain cases though.
Like that poor guy that was proclaimed insane and vanished for years before he was finally freed.

Also, about 90% of Lyme patients all over the world are declared lunatics as well, because it's so much easier than to actually try and treat the disease.

[Mermaid Dottie]

Oh I KNOW that one! Best guy friend I've ever had has Lyme. :( I couldn't believe that people don't treat it for what it is, after he told me about it. Made me sick to my stomach. Not so much as this, though. Schroeder's never been stolen from his folks. This poor girl hasn't spent longer than an hour with them in who knows how long.
It makes me want to cry.

[Mermaid Dottie]

I just found out there's a Change.org Petition with more supporters. Save Justina!
https://www.change.org/petitions/audit-boston-children-s-hospital-and-the-department-of-children-and-families-of-massachusetts-for-taking-custody-of-very-sick-children-with-no-reasonable-cause

[SeaGlass Siren]

oh thank god this site i use

[Mermaid Muir]

what in the fuck???
Taking the words right out of my mouth. What is going on here! Hoping for the best for the family!

[Sephina]

The sad part is this isn't the first time it's happened. I remember hearing a story almost the same a few years back where parents didn't like what the first hospital said, and went to a second for another opinion, so the first hospital sued for custody to treat the child because the parents were 'abusing them' by not providing the proper treatment. However a judge stepped in and forced the hospital to give the child back. Hospitals are clearly abusing the clause that was meant to stop real child abuse, it's ridiculous. The fact that the parents are going to be saddled with this huge bill almost makes me think that the hospitals are doing it solely to get some extra money. Maybe if it was up to the hospital to pay all the costs they would do this less and reserve it for real abuse cases.

[Sephina]

Also, I just found this more recent article http://foxct.com/2014/01/23/justina-pelletier-leaves-hospital/

Looks like she's out of the hospital and in some sort of home, however from the wording it looks like they are going to take custody away from the parents permanently and find her new guardians. This just keeps getting worse and worse.

[Mermaid Dottie]

She needs to get back to her parents.
You only have to look at the before and after videos to know that she was doing really well with her parents, and that she is not doing well in the hospital or rehab center, or wherever she is now.

[Mermaid Adriel]

Just signed. It's awful :( world turns in the opposite...

[Sephina]

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=22668251

And she's going into foster care. This just pisses me off so badly.

[SeaGlass Siren]

Can't she request to be put back with her parents?

[MerAnthony]

That goes to show that people make judgements without knowing the facts or circumstances an make judgements or blame parents for something that has hapened without just cause. GOD I hate some people sometimes.

[Sephina]

Can't she request to be put back with her parents? She's of the age where she technically could, but I think the court has mandated that the parents no longer have custody and she has to go into foster care. If the court says that she can't go back with her parents then she has to wait until she's 18, if she makes it that long.

[Ocean-Borne]

Why would anyone do something like this? What happened to 'treat as you'd like to be treated', eh?

[MerAnthony]

Why would anyone do something like this? What happened to 'treat as you'd like to be treated', eh?I think that went out the widow like "presumed innocent before proven guilty" with the police.

[Aziara]

I think that went out the widow like "presumed innocent before proven guilty" with the police.
Lemme tell you--When it comes to child services, they treat you like 'guilty until proven innocent'. My parents were fostering a child, looking to adopt her, but some so-called 'friends' wanted to adopt her instead... so they gave an anonymous tip that my parents were abusing the girl. Now, my parents aren't perfect, but they've mellowed out since I was a kid, and they certainly never did any of the stuff that their 'friends' said they did. In fact, it was her biological father that had sexually abused her, and child services refused to hear it, saying the girl had been coached to say it! Even after all the allogations were proven false, they wouldn't give the girl back, and they wouldn't remove the criminal record of the abuse that never happened! My parents had to get a lawyer to get their records expunged, and they almost didn't get it done, it was touch and go for a while. Luckily I was 19 at the time and they couldn't take me too!

[SeaGlass Siren]

She's of the age where she technically could, but I think the court has mandated that the parents no longer have custody and she has to go into foster care. If the court says that she can't go back with her parents then she has to wait until she's 18, if she makes it that long.
Back when I was in foster care I kept demanding to be taken home to my parents. Eventually child services gave in but they requested weekly visits To see if we were ok.

[deepblue]

While I understand the anger associated with this case, especially if you went through a traumatizing situation wherein you were removed from your parents, it can only be justified if indeed what the public knows is actually, absolutely true. The hospital in question is Boston Children's Hospital- the pediatric teaching hospital of Harvard Medical School. Harvard isn't exactly full of quacks. Any students there are top notch and they work with some of the best medical minds in this country. Does it mean they don't make mistakes, of course not, but I'd give them the benefit of the doubt when there is no proof otherwise.

She's being moved right now however, because she stabilized. It's of course easy to get very upset about something when we believe a child and her parents are being abused by those in power over them, but unless you have access to every test, every record, no one outside the case can actually know what's going on. If indeed these parents are the problem, that's pretty horrifying, too. As for the blanket gag order, that's unusual and was probably a mistake because it makes everyone far more suspicious. However, considering the father says things like, "could be some kind of protein deficiency, or some kind of poison in her system,” maybe he should just shut up while the process is undertaken to see his daughter. That quote comes from the story at the link below.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/25/conn-teen-long-custody-battle-move-again/P2e5jYYQHOwD4QnTPW09eN/story.html

[Mermaid Danielle]

While I understand the anger associated with this case, especially if you went through a traumatizing situation wherein you were removed from your parents, it can only be justified if indeed what the public knows is actually, absolutely true. The hospital in question is Boston Children's Hospital- the pediatric teaching hospital of Harvard Medical School. Harvard isn't exactly full of quacks. Any students there are top notch and they work with some of the best medical minds in this country. Does it mean they don't make mistakes, of course not, but I'd give them the benefit of the doubt when there is no proof otherwise.

She's being moved right now however, because she stabilized. It's of course easy to get very upset about something when we believe a child and her parents are being abused by those in power over them, but unless you have access to every test, every record, no one outside the case can actually know what's going on. If indeed these parents are the problem, that's pretty horrifying, too. As for the blanket gag order, that's unusual and was probably a mistake because it makes everyone far more suspicious. However, considering the father says things like, "could be some kind of protein deficiency, or some kind of poison in her system,” maybe he should just shut up while the process is undertaken to see his daughter. That quote comes from the story at the link below.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/25/conn-teen-long-custody-battle-move-again/P2e5jYYQHOwD4QnTPW09eN/story.html

I agree with this. There is so much about this that is so up in the air, with the public (rightfully) not knowing the entire history behind the case. One thing I'm really questioning though is why the parents wouldn't hire in a third party (doctor) to review the case. Instead of spending so much on dealing with the lawyers and repeatedly going to court, wouldn't it have made more sense to find someone with no conflicting interests to offer their opinion on the matter?

Anyways, praying for her and her family. I hope it all works out well. I can't imagine what they are going through.

[Mermaid Dottie]

They asked for additional opinions. They were refused by the state.
They weren't shown to the doctor they were told they would be, and the one they DID end up seeing didn't even look at her past history, or talk to her regular doctor. The Dad is probably way too emotional to be talking to reporters, and the way he said some stuff sounded unprofessional. But, I can't say that I blame him.
You only have to look at the before and after videos to know they're not helping her, wherever she is.
Her folks took her in for flu symptoms. Nothing relating to her pre-diagnosed condition except that flu can be amplified by it, so they wanted to be safe. The hospital claimed over-medicalization.
I DON'T GET IT.

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