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DonPlease
04-19-2014, 09:09 AM
Hi!
I don't know if I choose the right sub-forum for this question, but I'll go for it. :phew: What do you believe about plastic surgeries in general? Also, what do you believe about celebrities that get plastic surgeries? As you know, there are plenty of celebrities that look a lot better after a plastic surgery/or more, while others look worse. Here are a couple of examples of celebrities looking worse: Elsa Patton (http://umtransplantgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/elsa-patton-plastic-surgery-before-and-after-84878.jpg), Cat Lady - Jocelyn Wildenstein (probably you know she spend around $4 millions on plastic surgeries). Here are a couple of celebrities that look better/good after some rumored plastic surgeries: Elizabeth Berkley (http://www.plasticsurgeryneed.com/has-elizabeth-berkley-had-plastic-surgery/), Reba Mcentire and more.

Now, my questions - if you had enough money, what type of plastic surgery would you get? If you won't, why is that?
Thanks and waiting for your answers :yay:

Echidna
04-19-2014, 09:44 AM
I would never get any, because I don't see the point.

SeaGlass Siren
04-19-2014, 09:59 AM
i guess it really depends. in a make-believe world, if it was painless... i'd probably get a minor jaw reduction. but i personally would not get it because i hate pain.

there are a few other people i've known that have had minor surgery because they want to look prettier. imo, nothing wrong with looking prettier. edit: for instance, i wear makeup and wear pretty clothes because i want to be pretty. there's no shame in that. most of the time i'm just in a tshirt and pants and i'll still be ok with that so long as i don't look like i just walked out of a dumpster. *end edit

BUT there's a fine line between minor surgery to enhance your features, and completely changing how you look...

hilary duff had a chin and nose job i think but it was minor. and she still looks a lot like herself, if not prettier/ more like her older sister. then you have a person who had a million dollar surgery (boobs, bum, nose, chin, tummy, leg lengthening and all.. the real life barbie doll anyone?

sometimes people cannot tell where that line is.

people also have different reasons for getting it. some people are insecure and they want to be a completely different person, some people say they love themselves too much and want to improve themselves and they're still perfectly comfortable with how they are (xiaxue, anyone?).

with that being said, whatever the reason you have to love (edit: and respect) yourself.
if you feel that its not right for you, then don't do it.
if you want to do it, it's your life. you make your own decisions.

shimmygoddess
04-19-2014, 10:12 AM
After breastfeeding 3 kids, I would def. be up for some enhancements or simply to get back to the way I used to look. However, my hubby is against it. I just try and deal with feeling self conscience. I think it is a choice each person should make. Weigh your options and figure out if it will truly make you feel better.

SeaGlass Siren
04-19-2014, 10:20 AM
yeah. like if people can make the choice to dye their hair or get a tattoo, i think they should be able to make the choice to get surgery too.

but then there's that underlying problem of it being shoved into the faces of children who are self concious of how they look at such a young age...

This though:
Weigh your options and figure out if it will truly make you feel better

Aziara
04-19-2014, 10:33 AM
I think there should be mandatory counseling before you get cosmetic surgery, just to be sure that it's something you really want and not a self-image problem. If someone has bad self image, they'll still have bad self image with a new nose/smoother face/thinner butt etc.

DonPlease
04-19-2014, 10:59 AM
Thanks for the answers.

"i guess it really depends. in a make-believe world, if it was painless... i'd probably get a minor jaw reduction. but i personally would not get it because i hate pain." I hate pain too, so I understand you exactly. I would like to get some plastic surgeries, but I don't even think about them, because I hate the pain. I'm afraid of the pain.

"However, my hubby is against it" - I understand this too ;-)

MerEmma
04-19-2014, 11:19 AM
Personally, I'm all for anyone opting for whatever they want. It's not for me as I have very high self esteem, but I completely understand others wanting to change a little bit of themselves, or everything about them. It's not my business. :)

Mermaid Wesley
04-19-2014, 12:36 PM
I agree^ do whatever you want to do to make yourself happy. It's not my business. I used to want a nose job and a breast reduction but I've grown to like my body the way it is. If you want to completely change how you look, go ahead. I'm okay how I am though.


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AniaR
04-19-2014, 01:13 PM
If I had money I'd get perfect teeth. It has been very hard growing up with my teeth. And hard on my health too because of how high my pallet is. I am trying hard to afford braces. But if I had money I'd likely opt for the day long surgery.



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Echidna
04-19-2014, 02:39 PM
If I had money I'd get perfect teeth.

I'd say teeth don't fall under "plastical surgery", especially if they're a health issue!

I was treated by an orthodontist as a child/teen and had braces.
It was horrible, and a few years after the braces had been removed my teeth reassembled themselves again :p
One should really wait with braces until one's fully grown.

And elaborating on my first post a bit; I'd only undergo surgery if it absolutely had to be for health reasons.
No way I'm having something done just because I don't like a part of my body or something.
I was made fun of in highschool and prior due to my large nose, and at that time, it seemed like a true issue to me.

But a few years later, I don't care squat if my nose is large, my teeth aren't up to super-bleach standard, or whatever as long as it's not a health issue :p

AniaR
04-19-2014, 05:46 PM
they are considered cosmetic here, even when it's health issue. we dont call it plastic surgery just cosmetic surgery. it's so lame :( my teeth are awful I have trained myself to cover all but my front when I speak. I have genetically inherited a second set of adult teeth. I've had most of them pulled, but just can't afford to have them all. I am a shark. lol the over crowding is awful.

Echidna
04-19-2014, 06:01 PM
they are considered cosmetic here, even when it's health issue. we dont call it plastic surgery just cosmetic surgery.

meh, that's really lame.
It's not covered here either, you can spend a fortune on fillings, braces and stuff unless you take the most inexpensive, toxic options.

I meant that it counts as health issue more than cosmetic in regards to the thread though.
If someone had trouble walking due to two differently sized legs, for example, I'd not consider a surgery to bring them to the same length as plastic (or cosmetic) either.

Winged Mermaid
04-19-2014, 06:26 PM
I'm also one to think that if you can take steps to improve yourself so you can be comfortable with the body you live in, do it, and be proud of it! It's your body and your right, and as long as you have a grip on what will make you happy then go for it. I think pre surgery counseling is a good idea to make sure people aren't trying to fix a deeper emotional issue with an outward fix. But besides that, yeah be proud of what you do to make yourself feel comfortable in your own skin.

I never see why ladies are so insulted about people asking then about their hair color for instance. I dye my hair red and I'm proud of it. So what if it's not natural? I suit me and it makes me feel better about myself, and more myself than I would with my natural color.

That being said, i think if I ever got anything done, I'd wait until after I was done having kids and have a tummy tuck.

There are other things about myself that I'm no the biggest fan of (my chin is the other one that sticks out in my mind) but I can learn to accept those :)

SeaGlass Siren
04-19-2014, 06:34 PM
But your face looks like the ophelia (hamlet) paintings . Especially with your red hair. If you ever decide to get it remember that you look like a skarespearean painting. And that a complement!

Starfrit
04-20-2014, 12:00 AM
my teeth are awful I have trained myself to cover all but my front when I speak.

Thank god I'm not the only one who's self-conscious about her teeth! Not only have my teeth always been crooked and I have an overbite, I've always had really weak enamel and starting when I was really young the enamel used to wear away right down to the nerves... Eventually it got so bad and so painful that I just couldn't brush them at all, and was really self-conscious about it. I've gotten it fixed though and a lot of my teeth are covered in fake enamel, so it's a hell of an improvement, but I'm still really self-conscious about it, never smile showing my teeth, always cover my mouth with my hand when I'm laughing, things like that. If I could get any cosmetic surgery in the world, it would definitely be for perfect teeth.

... Well, that and breast implants.

Mer-Crazy
04-20-2014, 02:22 AM
I'm gonna hop on the teeth train. Mine's due to a combination of lack of funds and a crippling fear of needles. I go into hysteric sobbing any time they come near me, and often have panic attacks when I have to get them. So the dentist is something I've avoided for a long time and my teethe are possibly one of my biggest issues with myself as they've grown in crooked because of an accident when I was younger which damaged the nerves in my mouth. Though on that note I'm aware it's not something people tend to notice. I had no idea Raina had 'bad' teethe until she said something and even going back looking for it I didn't really see anything.

Other than that I'd never consider cosmetic surgery. I don't have anything I'd really like to change except the 'excess' weight, which is something I'd rather approach with diet and exercise rather than lipo or something of that nature. I'm not a big fan of plastic surgery, but I don't hold anything against people who get it, especially if it's for health reasons unless they begin to look unnatural. Then I really just feel like shaking them whilst screaming 'what is wrong with you can't you see what you're doing to yourself?'

Merley
04-20-2014, 02:34 AM
I hate my nose. Always have. If I could change anything I would change that. I have a bump and when I smile my cheeks spread too wide and it's just awful. I look like a bloated fish and not the cute kind. I want one of those cute little ski-slope noses. I've always thought it would make my face look a great deal better and I'd feel more self-confident. I also kind of truly believe girls with straight noses get treated better and more job opportunities. So idk, despite the pain or the stigma associated with plastic/cosmetic surgery or whatnot, I think I'd do it if I had the money. The rest of me I can live with.

Mermaid Lorelei
04-20-2014, 03:27 PM
Now, my questions - if you had enough money, what type of plastic surgery would you get?

Well, I'm just going to be completely honest and say, I'd want a working tail. Now, yes, I understand this is totally out of the range of current possibility, but you did ask. :P It's so out there that I know it would never happen, but I do find myself wishing it were true somedays. I'm happy with how I look though. I used to dislike my nose and neck, but I got over it as I grew up.

Nausicaa
04-20-2014, 09:56 PM
Well, in my opinion there is nothing more important to a person than being able to look in the mirror and say not "I think I'm pretty" or "so-and-so-person will really like me now" but to say "I look exactly the way that I want."
I have a LOT of tattoos and a lot of piercings, I also dye my hair, jog two miles every day with my dogs, use anti-acne products, use a lotion with a bronzing agent, use tooth whitening products, maintain a very strict 1300 calorie a day diet for weight maintenance and straighten or curl my hair as I see fit and wear whatever makeup I want. Not because I'm trying to impress anyone, but because I was very insecure from the time that I hit puberty up until I left highschool and got my GED when I was 17, and only after I started actually being proactive about my appearance did I start feeling better.

There seems to be a bunch of people making a big deal about trying to counter the pressure on the younger generation to "look perfect" or "live up to unrealistic media standards" by stressing that one should be happy just the way they are, and if you're not happy with your outward self then there must be something wrong with you inside, or that it's someone else's fault for making you self-conscious and I think that's causing a whole new problem with making insecure people insecure about their insecurities. Really, in the world that we live in now today there isn't any excuse for a person to be unhappy with themselves, if you want to be better, work harder.
I personally love the idea of plastic surgery, that if you work hard enough you can change ANYTHING about yourself. I'm a big supporter and am currently saving up for a nose job which will (hopefully if I keep going at the rate that I'm going at) be my 21st birthday present to myself, and only after I'm finished working for that will my goal be a silicone tail :D

Thalassa
04-20-2014, 10:23 PM
I know I'm in the minority, but I'm against plastic surgery except for circumstances that affect one's health. Personally I think the way you are born is just great for you. People that decorate or change themselves so much that they're no longer recognizable are an insult to themselves, in my opinion.

The problem with plastic surgery is it's a slippery slope. It's in human nature to want more and better. You get your nose or whatever fixed and then you'll fixate on something else that's not "perfect." Your eyes too close, your neck too saggy...And once you've gotten one surgery, it becomes a lot easier to say, "Look, I can just fix it with surgery!" So you undergo multiple procedures and none of them fix the underlying problem with your self-esteem. I'm not saying you have to hate yourself to undergo plastic surgery, but if you dislike what you see in the mirror and go for a quick fix...chances are you'll continue to dislike what you see.

However, as in all things I am fully aware that this is my own personal opinion, that people's lives are their own to make their own choices. I'd advise a friend against plastic surgery, but I wouldn't stop being their friend if they decided to get it anyway.

MerEmma
04-20-2014, 10:45 PM
I know I'm in the minority, but I'm against plastic surgery except for circumstances that affect one's health. Personally I think the way you are born is just great for you. People that decorate or change themselves so much that they're no longer recognizable are an insult to themselves, in my opinion.

The problem with plastic surgery is it's a slippery slope. It's in human nature to want more and better. You get your nose or whatever fixed and then you'll fixate on something else that's not "perfect." Your eyes too close, your neck too saggy...And once you've gotten one surgery, it becomes a lot easier to say, "Look, I can just fix it with surgery!" So you undergo multiple procedures and none of them fix the underlying problem with your self-esteem. I'm not saying you have to hate yourself to undergo plastic surgery, but if you dislike what you see in the mirror and go for a quick fix...chances are you'll continue to dislike what you see.

However, as in all things I am fully aware that this is my own personal opinion, that people's lives are their own to make their own choices. I'd advise a friend against plastic surgery, but I wouldn't stop being their friend if they decided to get it anyway.

Please tell me if I'm at all disrespectful, as it's not my goal to be. You're completely inclined to your opinion and this one is one that doesn't really affect others (as it's not like you're protesting at clinics!). But for many, yes, they do want to change a lot about who they are. They aren't happy with it and they'd like to fix things, but you should also realize that many people (esp if you read this thread!) just have one or two things about themselves that they could really justify spending the money to change. Things that would boost their confidence most to make them happier on a day to day standard.

For some people, what they don't like about themselves is just their hair. They can curl it, straighten it, dye it if they like and it's an easy, reversible fix. They can even chop it all off or shave it down if that's how they want to express themselves.

For others of course, what makes them insecure and have low self esteem might be something more major. Maybe it's their nose, maybe it's how small their chest is (or how large it is! I know from friends that finding clothes is a bitch especially on that end of the spectrum!). But if it makes them feel bad when they look in the mirror, I feel like they should definitely be able to change it. The vast majority of people who get cosmetic surgery change one or two things about themselves and then really love themselves. They can really feel like the best they can look like.

I have VERY high self confidence about myself, and I am so glad that I do. I can look in the mirror and feel proud, comfortable in my skin. I know that to others I'm not perfect but I look in the mirror and know that I feel good. I look good. I AM good. I feel powerful being that comfortable. But that doesn't mean there still aren't things I wouldn't change about myself. I realize that I'm not most people in that my insecurities are few (and again, I'm very thankful that my surroundings and lifestyle have granted me such), so I'm not the best example of it.

But while I can still appreciate my looks, I still feel insecure and if given the opportunity I may jump at the opportunity. I just want you to understand that most people have one or two major things that they'd like to change about themselves, it's not always an endless "oh, just this more" because it's also very expensive.

EDIT: Wall of text alert lol.
TL;DR: Not everyone has an endless line of insecurities and most people can only afford/really mostly want one or two things fixed to feel more confident about themselves.

Thalassa
04-20-2014, 11:07 PM
Of course! But I've also heard from people who thought it was just one thing...until they got that fixed. Suddenly that one thing that they had pointed to and said, "I'd be totally happy with myself if only for this one thing" wasn't it. They still looked in the mirror and were unhappy or became dissatisfied. So they found another thing to fix. And it went on and on.

And...for the record...and I know I'm going to get a lot of flack...I don't agree with a lot of body art/mods/hair dye that goes on. But just because I don't think it's good doesn't mean I think the people who do it are evil or that I'm going to suddenly shun everyone who makes the choice to dye their hair pink or whatever. Just because I don't embrace something doesn't mean I can't tolerate it.

Anyway, I've said my piece. I know it's not an opinion many agree with, but I do hope you all realize that I'm not being hateful towards anyone or anything like that.

For the most part, with the OP I'm warning don't expect plastic surgery to be a magic wand that suddenly changes your life or appearance to be everything you ever wanted. It usually doesn't work that way.

AniaR
04-20-2014, 11:48 PM
If I posted an actual pic of my teeth you'd understand but I'm not that brave. I got molds done I'll post those lol

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Alveric
04-21-2014, 01:15 PM
There's another exception beyond health that I'd make. Twenty years ago, I was in a serious traffic accident that did a lot of damage to my lower face. None of the damage would have really effected my health, only my appearance. A plastic surgeon, still one of my favorite people, was brought onto my case and fixed it. The few scars that remain I can hide under facial hair.

Mermaid Dottie
04-22-2014, 12:57 PM
I don't think I would get cosmetic surgery, because I've always loved how I am except my teeth. I hope I'll be able to get braces at some point, at least on the bottom so I can keep them cleaner (and be able to floss without the stuff jumping and cutting my gums!)

I've not been happy with the weight I gained while I was pregnant the first time, as everyone knows, but I wouldn't have surgery to fix it. That's too expensive, and seems too extreme. I just bought a bike(doctor recommended exercise tool!) and a bike trailer for the kiddo. Now I can be active, again.

Now as far as other people go, I really do think God made you all beautiful, and that you don't need to change yourselves, but if one or to small changes are worth it to you, and you're happy once you get them, that's great.
I'm also with Alveric. If something happens and you're burned, in an accident, get your skin all scraped off, THAT is the PERFECT time to get surgery. Like I said, God made you beautiful. It's not wrong to want to get back to that beauty at all, if something like that happens.

Echidna
04-22-2014, 02:35 PM
I'm also with Alveric. If something happens and you're burned, in an accident, get your skin all scraped off, THAT is the PERFECT time to get surgery.

this, of course.

I can see both viewpoints- the point-blank opposition to any unnatural surgery, and the wish for "improvement".

Outside of health benefits, I dislike that there is a bit of group dymamic (and peer pressure) involved.
It's not so stringent in Europe, because very few people do that here compared to the US, but the teeth madness has already spread :p

You see, unaltered teeth and their material, Dentin, are usually yellow or grey, not blindingly white.
Photoshop and bleaching, however, have led to a lot of pressure to have such unnaturally white teeth, so more and more people do it (they also damage their teeth in the process, btw, but that's beside the point).

I would hate to see other fads to spread.
I don't want to feel pressured into getting my nose made smaller, just because everyone else did it.
And so on.

The pressure is so real because it's a sad fact that people with the "correct" exterior (meaning, whatever happens to be en vogue at that time) will get promotions easier, find more friends faster, be perceived more intelligent/nice/successful/whatever by other people.
It's dumb, but that's how the human brain works.

So I totally get why people undergo surgery for purely cosmetic reasons, even if it's detrimental to their health.
I will gladly keep my large nose though, because it enables me to get a lot more breath than small nosed people :D

Also, I would recommend waiting a few years if you're still a teenager or very young, because most teenagers just hate how they look, and chances are they won't anymore a few years later lol.

Mermaid Adriel
04-22-2014, 02:53 PM
I think that everybody is free to do whatever he/she wants with their body if something doesn't like, but I personally wouldn't go under surgeons' scalpel, even if I don't love my nose. It's expensive and maybe I won't be sure about the result.
So, if you want to change your body, that's ok, but sometimes you have to accept yourselves :)

Mermaid Wesley
04-22-2014, 02:58 PM
Caltuna- exactly. 2 years ago I hated my nose. I thought it made me ugly. I always thought I was ok looking except for my nose. But now I couldn't care less about my nose. It's fine. I'm beautiful and pretty the way I am. 2 years ago I was sure that I would get a nose job when I was 20. Now I'm turning 20 in a few months and I don't want one at all.


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Echidna
04-22-2014, 06:34 PM
Caltuna- exactly. 2 years ago I hated my nose. I thought it made me ugly. I always thought I was ok looking except for my nose. But now I couldn't care less about my nose. It's fine. I'm beautiful and pretty the way I am. 2 years ago I was sure that I would get a nose job when I was 20. Now I'm turning 20 in a few months and I don't want one at all.

:thumbs-up:

was similar for me.
as a teen I was so unhappy about my nose and my height I often cried at night instead of sleeping!
I wanted a nose job badly, and even more a procedure to cut out some length of bone out of my legs to be a more fashionable height!
LOL!
I'm literally laughing about that now.

From my twenties on, I was like "well, it's fine" on both accounts.

But to think how strongly I felt it was horrible in my teens...I still wonder how I survived that shitty time.
(I ate next to nothing for many years because I hoped I would grow less.
Didn't help at all, but sure was bad for my health.)

Meilyn
04-24-2014, 01:06 AM
My mother signed for me when I was under 18 for an "experimental" cosmetic government aid, I didn't want to at the time, I said no, but they convinced me.

6 teeth extractions, low jaw taken apart and 2 millimeters cut out from each side (lower mandibular setback), two no choice liquid diets lasting 3 months then 4 months after the surgery, 4 years of braces and taking myself via metro bus 3-4 hours a day every other week to get them tightened when I was 13-17, and a total of 15,000$$ altogether through the "free experiment" and 5 years of appointments via public transit by myself...

At the moment, I truly hated and loathed my mother, however. She was just looking out for me.
I didn't know then how much it could affect my life but my mother deciding to give me a perfect smile was the nicest thing she had ever given me. I had over crowding and it made it look like I had fangs. I loved it, but people were frightened :/ I had an under bite and my jaw gave me headaches from the joints not connecting right.

Surgery isn't very painful. Nor is the recovery in my opinion. Just very physically overwhelming and physically annoying. I felt "sore" but I was never in much pain. I never took my pain meds cause the first and last time I tried to get rid of the annoyance, I felt like I was too close to death. Threw them all away.

My experience with surgery, if it's for YOURSELF and it's to make YOU happy or to better yourself, do it if you're willing to ride through the soreness and look positively. There's always risks, but they're a minimal percentage compared to how many people are happy and don't speak about their modifications. You can also love yourself, your body, and still want change with it that you can not do for yourself physically.

I absolutely love my smile and teeth now. Besides the extractions, nothing's been done to my teeth. I don't have any before photos but here's a smile photo :) I went through hell of having a sore mouth for literally years for this smile. 20303

Personally, cause I like boobs, I wanna get bigger boobs. Boobs don't grow with pregnancy in my genetics. I used my boob money to pay for my tail actually lol. And now that I have no job, I'm down to only 1k out of my 8k needed for bewbs :) I became 40 pounds overweight once and STILL no boobs, but I had to work off fat :/ it sucked LOL. So that's my last resort since pills didn't work too. I love having a super girly, hourglass figure, but that's just me.

drucilla
04-24-2014, 03:46 PM
Ok so before I write what all I want done I have to tell you why I feel that I need so many things done to fix my appearance.
I grew up in a small town my school was k-8 less than 100 students, and everyday i would go to school and have the other kids telling me how ugly I am and doing their best to make me kill myself, just constant bullying. Then when I would go home my parents, my sister, and even my grandmother would tell me how ugly and useless and stupid, ect, that I was. My father used to tell me that I should just kill myself because I'm sh**. In highschool it got worse, then I went into fostercare and moved away, it got better after that not a whole lot but a bit. I pretty much married the first person to ever call me beautiful and even today I have total strangers telling me I'm ugly. I was in a babies r us the woman was doing free pictures for parents and their children she refused to put me in the picture because she said I wasnt picture worthy but she put my husband and baby in a picture together, btw no my husband did not stand up for me and I was too shocked to say anything. The other day I was in target a woman who worked there was helping me find makeup, she called me ugly in a more coy way. These are just a few of Many times its happened.
I have a lot of days where I refuse to leave the house and show my face to anyone because of how ugly I feel. I avoid all mirrors in the house I can go months without looking at myself because every time I do I cry.
It's not that I have any disfigurements or scars I'm just plain ugly.
There are so many surgery's that I want to have but will never have the money for like
a jaw reduction,
surgery on my right ear to fix a mistake the doctors made when taking out some cysts.
A new nose. Basically anything they can do to fix my face
Remove 2 or 3 ribs.
Maybe lengthen my legs if it will still look porportionate.
It's just mainly my face any thing they can do to finally let me be beautiful I'm willing to do. I just wont ever have the money. I'm scared of what effects it could have on my daughter but I dont ever want to hear my husband say hes ashamed to be seen with me again, eventhough it was out of anger it still hurts.

Mermaid_Kenzee
04-24-2014, 06:28 PM
i dont like plastic surgery becuase everyone one is beautiful the way they are :D

DonPlease
04-25-2014, 04:35 AM
Hello!
Sorry for the late reply. Seems there are tons of replies around here with plastic surgery.
@MerEmma - this is true. This is my opinion also. Everyone can do whatever they want, if they don't bother me at all. If you want to look better, why not? If you want to look worse, why not? (I mean, celebrities that spend millions for it). Thanks for your opinion. It's exactly like mine.
@MerHopefully - I think this is true. I think the hardest thing is to accept who you are and what you have. Sometimes, even after a couple of plastic surgeries, you won't be completely satisfied with your body. I see lots of people want to get nose jobs.
@AniaR - even if I had more money, I would be afraid to go to the dentist for perfect teeth. Just like I would be afraid to get a plastic surgery.
@caltuna - as long we are health, the rest is simple. Right?
@Winged Mermaid - this is true. If you want to do something, you need to be proud of it afterwards. Or else, you're going to fall in the trap of doing surgeries and surgeries and never feel happy.

It's funny that even celebrities that already look good, Joanna Krupa (http://www.plasticsurgeryneed.com/does-joanna-krupa-have-plastic-surgery/) for example, are said to get plastic surgeries. Why is that even most beautiful persons (men/women) get plastic surgeries nowadays?

@Waikiki Mermaid - why is that you can't change your nose? Money issue? Something else? I, for example, I would be very afraid to get a plastic surgery.
@Lyric - I think it's very important to look in the mirror and see a pretty face there. It doesn't matter how many plastic surgeries and tattoos you have, all that matters if you are confident and pretty for yourself.

MerGrrl
04-26-2014, 03:05 PM
I've lived in the rural mountains where no one even bothered to shave their legs and in LA where plastic surgery is practically mandatory. ;)

I've seen some beautiful results from the right plastic surgeon. I wouldn't do it, because I am lucky enough to be pretty happy with the way I look, and to me it's not worth the risks or $$ involved. But not everyone feels the same way about how they look - plenty of people "won" the gene lottery while others feel like their looks are farther from the cultural norm. It's not fair for one person who happened to be born looking closer to the cultural "ideal" to judge another, who wasn't, on wanting to change their looks. Some of us were born American citizens, while others have to work their whole lives for a green card.

Ultimately, the satisfaction is probably deeper with self-acceptance. But eff that, am I right? Lol jk. I say, if you can find a really good surgeon and can afford it, why not fix that thing that's been bugging you? Plenty of people are thrilled with their results, and not everyone gets addicted to it.

On the other hand, if you're on the fence, why not look into counseling and see if you can change your most flexible feature - your mind.

Kishiko
04-26-2014, 03:27 PM
I think the only plastic surgery I'll ever get is getting my ears layer back, which I definitely will do after I turn 18. Every since I was little people always made fun of my so much for my ears calling me dumbo and making hearing jokes and it made me feel so terrible because I was self conscious about them. I can't wear my hair fully up because it looks like someone stuck two wings on my head. I once glued my ears back (very bad decision I know) and had a terrible rash for days. So yeah that's all I'm going to do (: but I have no problem if other people want to get surgery so they can love the person in the mirror.

SeaGlass Siren
04-26-2014, 09:52 PM
My mom only ever had a slight nose job and lip plumpers but that's abt it