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Mermaid Narina
06-30-2014, 12:37 AM
Um so I have a YouTube channel where I post mermaid/underwater tutorial related stuff, but I get a lot of rude (I'm talking really sexual inappropriate stuff) comments from a few people... Off the top of my head, the usernames are something like "b b m a n" and "c h p m a n"... Has anyone else had comments from them?

stuff like "I cummed watching this" :/ :/ :/ (vomits)

but yeah, they started off by giving ideas for my videos, and I love getting video ideas from my viewers so I did some of them, like doing underwater videos fully clothed, and going without googles, breath holds etc. Anyway then the comments from them became a lot less innocent, and I started to realise that there such a thing as an underwater fetish.

(in regards to fetishes, each to their own. But I've stated in my channel description and in my video description that I don't want any part in it)

so the thought of entertaining someone's fetish unknowingly make me feel very.. Well violated to be honest :/ so this happened originally last year (when I was 15)..
anyway, for the last year Mermaid Petronella and I've been emailing this guy called R o b e r t/b i l l C h a p l i n/C h a p m a n. He's a Christian, like us, and he has always been very polite and encouraging and giving us in depth feedback to improve our videos (and to be honest it has helped a lot).
The worrying thing is that his YouTube account has been suspended several times (he said it was for no reason at all...) and I have been messaged by another YouTube user who said to "watch out, he's a pedophile. Don't do anything he says".

So I don't really know who to trust or what to do.. I really want nothing to do with underwater fetishes, I routinely delete rude comments, and if they are really bad I will message the user asking them firmly to stop. I've blocked a few people too.

how do I continue having an underwater/mermaid themed channel without attracting the attention of fetish channels????

Lily
06-30-2014, 12:53 AM
Report the people to YouTube's Safety Center. http://www.youtube.com/yt/policyandsafety/reporting.html

Emphasize that they are sexually soliciting a minor. That should get noticed. Also take screenshots of every comment they post and any other messages they send you. If the harassment escalates, you'll have evidence.

Remove any references to your real name (I know google+ has made this really hard, but you can still do it) as well as where you live or where you go to school... Anything that could be traced to your irl identity needs to go ASAP.

As for the guy you've been emailing with... I would stop if I were you. Being a Christian doesn't automatically make you a good person, and if he's truly a pedophile, he could be using being religious as a way to make you feel comfortable and let down your guard.

I've gotten waaaaaay more paranoid about Internet harassment and stalking in the last few years. Post nothing personal. Report and block every creeper. Do not respond to anyone who gives you even the slightest inappropriate vibe or who others say are behaving inappropriately.

Raayvhen
06-30-2014, 01:43 AM
Absolutely everything that Lily said. Also I'd suggest confiding in someone you know personally, a family member or friend so that you have someone keeping an eye out for you just in case. If it gets bad enough I'd even go as far as to file a police report just so that there's evidence of a history of their behavior.

Mermaid Narina
06-30-2014, 02:12 AM
Thanks so much!
im naturally a very trusting person, but I have also heard a lot about scary things people do on the internet :O
i think you're right, I'm going to go with my gut feeling and stop contacting this guy

Raayvhen
06-30-2014, 02:24 AM
I'm so glad! I know its a hard truth but its always better to be paranoid. Some things aren't worth risking.

Stay safe and keep your eye out for merverts!

Lily
06-30-2014, 03:30 AM
Stay safe and keep your eye out for merverts!

I laughed way too hard at that!

Narina, I know what you mean. I tend to be a very trusting person online as well (heck, I met my husband on eharmnony!) but I've had scary experiences too. The most important thing is to keep yourself safe.

Mermaid Narina
06-30-2014, 06:24 AM
Merverts!!! :lol:

-Annwyn-
06-30-2014, 06:44 AM
Um so I have a YouTube channel where I post mermaid/underwater tutorial related stuff, but I get a lot of rude (I'm talking really sexual inappropriate stuff) comments from a few people... Off the top of my head, the usernames are something like "bbman" and "chpman"... Has anyone else had comments from them?

stuff like "I cummed watching this" :/ :/ :/ (vomits)

but yeah, they started off by giving ideas for my videos, and I love getting video ideas from my viewers so I did some of them, like doing underwater videos fully clothed, and going without googles, breath holds etc. Anyway then the comments from them became a lot less innocent, and I started to realise that there such a thing as an underwater fetish.

(in regards to fetishes, each to their own. But I've stated in my channel description and in my video description that I don't want any part in it)

so the thought of entertaining someone's fetish unknowingly make me feel very.. Well violated to be honest :/ so this happened originally last year (when I was 15)..
anyway, for the last year Mermaid Petronella and I've been emailing this guy called Robert/bill Chaplin. He's a Christian, like us, and he has always been very polite and encouraging and giving us in depth feedback to improve our videos (and to be honest it has helped a lot).
The worrying thing is that his YouTube account has been suspended several times (he said it was for no reason at all...) and I have been messaged by another YouTube user who said to "watch out, he's a pedophile. Don't do anything he says".

So I don't really know who to trust or what to do.. I really want nothing to do with underwater fetishes, I routinely delete rude comments, and if they are really bad I will message the user asking them firmly to stop. I've blocked a few people too.

how do I continue having an underwater/mermaid themed channel without attracting the attention of fetish channels????


Welcome to "Being a Mermaid on YouTube". :$


Yeah, those two guys have NOTHING better to do then sit around all day in front of their computer looking up underwater fetish stuff and demanding things of us. I ended up banninating both their arses about two years ago. I highly recommend it for the sake of your sanity. Do not ever reply back to them.


So how do you stop attracting those types? You can't. You'll learn in life that people get turned on by anything. Even making a video of you doing something as simple as walking down the street will bring on the creepers. You just gotta roll with the punches and know that blocking them is your best form of defence and that none of it is your fault. It's not acceptable behaviour.

AniaR
06-30-2014, 08:45 AM
Yup both of em. I blocked em from my stuff. Creepers

Mermaid Lily_Pad
06-30-2014, 12:34 PM
Hey Narina,
I don't want to go into to much detail, but basically I run a very large forum as well as owning a store in a popular online game. I have run classes specifically on online safety and internet predators and how to identify, avoid and protect yourself.


1. NEVER give out your name, address, phone number, school, email, FB account, or any other pertinent personal information. This includes looking at every single video you make and picture you post to see if anything in the background of those pictures can reveal where you are. The name of the Pool for instance, an advertisement on the wall with an address to a local business. Anything that may betray your location.

2. Just because a person says they are one thing, does not mean it is true. Anything can be forged online. A persons picture, name, age, where they live, even their voice if you happen to hear them. I could tell anyone I am a 14 year old devote Christian boy and show pictures of some kid I found on the internet. I could tell you what school I go to and town I live in. I can chat about bands I like and good movies, and my family. I am a darn good writer and making up a fake persona is Really easy. You would never guess I am a 35 year old woman with two kids. Even talking on the phone I could probably fool you. My point is, you just Don't Know. The nicest person on the planet whos intentions could seem incredibly innocent and who looks like he just wants to help you out could be someone who is simply trying to gain your friendship and confidence so he can find out where you are. The internet is an extremely dangerous place, especially for kids, and even Naive adults. You need to be proactive in your own protection. Paranoia is not such a bad thing when it comes to online.

3. NEVER EVER send ANYONE money! If that nice kid you meet online suddenly says his family has gone broke and he hasn't eaten in days and all he needs is a hundred bucks to make it to the end of the week. WALK AWAY! If he has an internet connection and a computer, then he has enough money to get by. People can create some very fantastic lies just to try and rip another person off.

4. NEVER meet ANYONE online in person. Not without your parents knowledge, and even then I would advice against it. Like I said, the person may sound great online. He may promise you things like..."I would love to get a few pictures of you in your mermaid outfit for the magazine,newspaper,book I am writing. Can I meet you XYZ. Don't Do It!" That being said, if you absolutely feel like it's your big break and you need to do it. Meet in a Public place, with LOTS of people. Bring friends, family, anyone you can with you. Don't go anywhere in that place alone. Don't go back to his place, or change locations, don't get in a car with him. Don't go straight home afterwards and make sure when you do go home you are not being followed. I know this may sound extreme, but like I said...there are a lot of unpleasant people targeting children, and even grown adults. You need to take care of yourself.

5. Trust your instincts. If something about the person seems kind of "off". Your brain is warning you to pay attention and you need to listen to it.

6. If you do by chance meet someone online and they seem like the greatest person on the planet yet they always have an excuse to not talk on the phone, not vid chat, etc..and if you do plan to meet them somewhere yet they cancel each time because of one thing or another....they are lying.

I have helped a lot of girls and even some men who have been hurt by online predators. Anything from having tons of money stolen, to a man who was engaged to his online girlfriend that he had known for a long time only to find out the girlfriend was actually a man. I helped him uncover that. It was extremely sad.

A bit of paranoia can keep you safe online. Be careful, and be aware of what you post.

BlueMermaid
07-09-2014, 11:50 AM
This is very good advice. I left youtube for a long time thanks to those perverts. Being a christian, and trying to "help you improve" are classic signs of people trying to take advantage of you. On the internet, you should be super duper extra cautious. I know from experience. Trust no one.



Report the people to YouTube's Safety Center. http://www.youtube.com/yt/policyandsafety/reporting.html

Emphasize that they are sexually soliciting a minor. That should get noticed. Also take screenshots of every comment they post and any other messages they send you. If the harassment escalates, you'll have evidence.

Remove any references to your real name (I know google+ has made this really hard, but you can still do it) as well as where you live or where you go to school... Anything that could be traced to your irl identity needs to go ASAP.

As for the guy you've been emailing with... I would stop if I were you. Being a Christian doesn't automatically make you a good person, and if he's truly a pedophile, he could be using being religious as a way to make you feel comfortable and let down your guard.

I've gotten waaaaaay more paranoid about Internet harassment and stalking in the last few years. Post nothing personal. Report and block every creeper. Do not respond to anyone who gives you even the slightest inappropriate vibe or who others say are behaving inappropriately.

BlueMermaid
07-09-2014, 11:53 AM
Excellent advice!


Hey Narina,
I don't want to go into to much detail, but basically I run a very large forum as well as owning a store in a popular online game. I have run classes specifically on online safety and internet predators and how to identify, avoid and protect yourself.


1. NEVER give out your name, address, phone number, school, email, FB account, or any other pertinent personal information. This includes looking at every single video you make and picture you post to see if anything in the background of those pictures can reveal where you are. The name of the Pool for instance, an advertisement on the wall with an address to a local business. Anything that may betray your location.

2. Just because a person says they are one thing, does not mean it is true. Anything can be forged online. A persons picture, name, age, where they live, even their voice if you happen to hear them. I could tell anyone I am a 14 year old devote Christian boy and show pictures of some kid I found on the internet. I could tell you what school I go to and town I live in. I can chat about bands I like and good movies, and my family. I am a darn good writer and making up a fake persona is Really easy. You would never guess I am a 35 year old woman with two kids. Even talking on the phone I could probably fool you. My point is, you just Don't Know. The nicest person on the planet whos intentions could seem incredibly innocent and who looks like he just wants to help you out could be someone who is simply trying to gain your friendship and confidence so he can find out where you are. The internet is an extremely dangerous place, especially for kids, and even Naive adults. You need to be proactive in your own protection. Paranoia is not such a bad thing when it comes to online.

3. NEVER EVER send ANYONE money! If that nice kid you meet online suddenly says his family has gone broke and he hasn't eaten in days and all he needs is a hundred bucks to make it to the end of the week. WALK AWAY! If he has an internet connection and a computer, then he has enough money to get by. People can create some very fantastic lies just to try and rip another person off.

4. NEVER meet ANYONE online in person. Not without your parents knowledge, and even then I would advice against it. Like I said, the person may sound great online. He may promise you things like..."I would love to get a few pictures of you in your mermaid outfit for the magazine,newspaper,book I am writing. Can I meet you XYZ. Don't Do It!" That being said, if you absolutely feel like it's your big break and you need to do it. Meet in a Public place, with LOTS of people. Bring friends, family, anyone you can with you. Don't go anywhere in that place alone. Don't go back to his place, or change locations, don't get in a car with him. Don't go straight home afterwards and make sure when you do go home you are not being followed. I know this may sound extreme, but like I said...there are a lot of unpleasant people targeting children, and even grown adults. You need to take care of yourself.

5. Trust your instincts. If something about the person seems kind of "off". Your brain is warning you to pay attention and you need to listen to it.

6. If you do by chance meet someone online and they seem like the greatest person on the planet yet they always have an excuse to not talk on the phone, not vid chat, etc..and if you do plan to meet them somewhere yet they cancel each time because of one thing or another....they are lying.

I have helped a lot of girls and even some men who have been hurt by online predators. Anything from having tons of money stolen, to a man who was engaged to his online girlfriend that he had known for a long time only to find out the girlfriend was actually a man. I helped him uncover that. It was extremely sad.

A bit of paranoia can keep you safe online. Be careful, and be aware of what you post.

coral_sybil
07-09-2014, 03:54 PM
I'd stop talking to him if I were you. The criticism is great and all, and I'm glad it helped out, but things about being accused of going after other under age people should not be taken lightly. And if he is an older male than he should have other things to do than chat to a 15 year old.

Aquarianne
07-09-2014, 04:20 PM
Telling you right now that my roommate in college was a "devoted christian", with a quote-a-day bible and a gold crucifix on her necklace. She still stole the fifty dollars my parents sent me one year for my birthday. And used it to buy a decorative blanket. That she and her boyfriend then made love on. In our dorm. Basically, she only started being christian when she began dating this boy, who was born-again christian, and she wanted to make him happy.

Just because someone says they're a christian, doesn't mean they always act like one. The real test is in how you act. And like others have said above, online people can lie about who they are completely. One of the most widely-used ploys by creepers and scam artists is to tell people they're religious, and sign everything "god bless", because we naturally tend to assume these kinds of people are more trustworthy.

Honestly I would just disable comments on your vids, which is what I do on some videos I post. Pervs will often leave a comment on the vid on the spur of the moment, because they're watching it right then. If you disable comments, they usually won't bother to try and seek out where to contact you directly and say creepy things, because it's too much effort. No, you won't be able to get comments from genuinely nice people, but those are the people who WILL privately message you if they want to say something or ask a question.

And don't stress about perverts too much, because they're bound to crop up on the silliest things. I had a guy with a foot fetish message me and ask to buy a pair of my used socks once. I told him to cough up a hundred bucks or tell his story walking. XD Didn't hear back.

And dittoing the guy who ppl say is a pedophile. If he's been flagged that much and he keeps talking to a 15 yr old, and you're getting warning emails, DROP THAT DUDE. Drop him like a hot coal.

EDIT: and MAD PROPS to FableCat, that was a very thorough and concise advice list! I wish I could have it laminated and posted in every school. More people need to be aware of just how much info they accidentally give away about themselves online.

Rivertee
07-09-2014, 05:04 PM
Hun I'm here to let you know that, that man is a registered sex offender and has done time for his crimes. He's scouted MANY young women for years and earns their trust just to defile and sometimes even 'accedentally' cause their deths. The name is registered and there are many reports of him continuing his disdeeds. Stay away from him and report him to the police. If you've already done as such congratdulations. Eventually the law will put him away for good instead of him getting out on multiple different excuses.

coral_sybil
07-16-2014, 10:50 AM
Hun I'm here to let you know that, that man is a registered sex offender and has done time for his crimes.

I thought I recognized that name from "Operation Scarecrow"

Mermaid Narina
07-16-2014, 09:48 PM
Thankyou Fablecat, Bluemermaid, Coral Sybil and Aquarianne <3 getting your advice has really helped give me some perspective, its easy to feel overwhelmed when you cant really talk to anyone!


Hun I'm here to let you know that, that man is a registered sex offender and has done time for his crimes. He's scouted MANY young women for years and earns their trust just to defile and sometimes even 'accedentally' cause their deths. The name is registered and there are many reports of him continuing his disdeeds. Stay away from him and report him to the police. If you've already done as such congratdulations. Eventually the law will put him away for good instead of him getting out on multiple different excuses.

This might be a weird question, but any chance you can give me a link to where you found that? I know two other girls who also message him, and I'd like to show them