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Marie-Josie Cayer
08-16-2014, 02:05 PM
Finfolk Betta Mermaid tail for sale: complete dragonskin platinum silicone prosthetic made by Finfolk Productions in Mid October 2013. Weights approximately 25lbs but almost weighless in water. Built in Finis trainer monofin for swimming. Fits 8 woman shoes size perfectly and has straps for fastening various size foots in pockets. Fits Male Shoe Size 6.5 to 8 also. Has been used for four photoshoots and tested one time in waters. Has no mold inside and it can stretch up to a certain point. Selling it since there`s a gap and it`s loose at my waistline. The dorsal has been unglued when I received it, 2 inches long, will need to be reglued with dragonsking silicone.

Here`s the mermaid tail Facebook public link for more photos:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152562130070155.1073741858.534435154&type=1&l=32478c988a


These are the measurements that I gave at the time of production. All in inches:Waist

Belly button/smallest portion of torso 41
Hips (widest portion at hip bone) 46
Mermaid Booty Thighs (widest portion) 42
Knees 26
Calves (widest portion) 27
Ankles 16
Length:
Waist to Floor 44.5
Waist to Hip 9
Hip to Knee 17.5
Hip to Ankle: 35.5
Knee to Floor 19.5
Knee to Calf 7
Knee to Ankle 16.5
Shoe Size: 8 Woman

My weight is 170lbs and my height is 5 foot 5 inches.

If purchased new from Finfolk Productions (https://www.facebook.com/FinfolkProductions), a mermaid tail start at 2,500$US with basic Finis trainer monofin, plus dorsal is an additional 175$US and scale.tipping is 200$US. That does not include shipping and duty fees. Since this tail is still in very good condition, I am asking for 2500$US incuding free express shipping to continental North America with Canada Post or another prefered carrier by request. International shipping, please ask since it will considerably be more expensive. Sold as-is, no return, tail has a 3 years warranty with Finfolk. Please PM me for more information or photos if requested.

Thank you very much,
Marie-Josie Cayer

Marie-Josie Cayer
08-16-2014, 02:12 PM
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Ayla of Duluth
08-16-2014, 02:36 PM
just curious, do you have any videos of you swimming in it?

Marie-Josie Cayer
08-16-2014, 03:03 PM
No unfortunalety I don`t have a video at my reach. Thank you.

MerEmma
08-16-2014, 08:24 PM
Why are you selling it? It's gorgeous. :(

AniaR
08-16-2014, 08:50 PM
Wow the colors reallllllly faded :( that's too bad.

AniaR
08-16-2014, 08:51 PM
The dorsal can be repaired folks.silpoxy will do it and you can sew to reinforce

Winged Mermaid
08-16-2014, 09:09 PM
I hope you find a good home for it!

Although I have to say.. the colors hardly look like they're the same tail... looks like a layer mask was used in photo editing to super saturate the colors of the tail (and just the tail, which is why the table and snow aren't saturated with color) as well as the contrast, and maybe even used hue change to make it even more pink- when the tail is actually more pastel and white than hot pink like the FinFolk Pictures show. I know tail colors can be hard to show in pics, but saturating the color to the degree that it doesn't even look like the same paint job.. just, why? *confused*

Mermaid Wesley
08-16-2014, 09:15 PM
Maybe it's a bit washed out in some pics and edited in others?

PearlieMae
08-16-2014, 09:22 PM
it looks to me like the finfolk pictures were the ones oversaturated, they were taken outside under winter daylight so it's very blue, and the current pictures with the tail on the floor are taking a mixed light room light and day light from a window, it seems. I think the discrepancy in the pictures is just the difference in lighting rather than being as faded as it might appear in the newer pictures, and a difference in cameras as well. New shots taken outside in open shade (bright day, shade of a building) might render a truer rendition.

MerEmma
08-16-2014, 09:32 PM
Yeah, I just see what Pearlie mentioned. It just looks like a difference in lighting--Raina's tail can look amazing outside in daylight but meh in indoor lighting.

AniaR
08-16-2014, 09:36 PM
this is true.

Winged Mermaid
08-16-2014, 10:19 PM
Lighting CAN make a lot of difference, with tails I think almost everyone knows that. That's why most tail pics from tailmakers are outside, in natural light where the colors show truest. I also know that paint on the wall can make a big difference (my walls are light burnt orange.. makes photos inside horrid). But that looks beyond the change in lighting IMO. Honestly I've never seen lighting be the difference a tail being white in one pic and that same area being hot pink in another, or pastel in one pink in one and super hot pink in another. I've noticed FinFolk and other tail makers edit their photos to make the colors more vibrant than what they are. Guess it's a standard practice? Just never seen a tail be so different from a customer photo than the tailmaker's photo before. Then again Marie is the owner of the tail, she would know what the real differences are ;)

AniaR
08-16-2014, 10:50 PM
I find my tail looks brither outside because blue and orange are opposite colors so when Im in water or pools it pops waaay more than under florescent. But my tail has certainly faded over the years, thanks to loads of direct sunlight from outdoor gigs, and chlorine. But my tail is 3 years old and been through hell so I expect it to be faded :p

I was just surprised because this tail is so new. And Marie is from Quebec they get around the same amount of sun we get in NS.

I know too Marie that Quebec is very difficult for mers- not many public places will allow swimming :( Im wondering if that's part of the reason you feel like selling it? It's so close to fitting Mermaid Mimi... not quite long enough or big enough feet. (PLus she doesnt have the money right now) I am so desperate to get her a new tail my heart skipped a beat reading the measurements. lol

I'm sure you'll find it a good home, and Im sorry for whatever reasons you're selling it for :(

Morticia Mermaid
08-17-2014, 01:00 AM
Even if it is faded, the tail is still gorgeous. If I had the funds I would be all over this (its just about my size, nothing a belt wouldn't fix). I'd love to have one of their tails one day

Merman Arion
08-17-2014, 04:26 AM
Of course it's edited! I thought everyone already knew that. Here are some examples with my tail :

The final (edited) picture of my tail on their FB page :

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The final progress pictures of my tail :

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Besides, I admit that I use a neon filter on my Iphone to make the colors of my tail look more vibrant when I take pictures of it indoor.

Mermaid Fenicia
08-17-2014, 04:30 AM
If you read the first post, you'll know she is selling it because it's to big for her and she will buy another tail instead ;)

Merman Arion
08-17-2014, 04:44 AM
If you read the first post, you'll know she is selling it because it's to big for her and she will buy another tail instead ;)

She will?? There is nothing written here that says she will buy another tail.

That makes no sense to me. Why not keeping this one and send it to the twins for a free fix thanks to the warranty she has then??

Marie-Josie Cayer
08-17-2014, 07:09 AM
I have decided to sale the tail since the city of Gatineau has refuse public pool access across region for mermaiding. I was able to try it out at Brittania Beach in Ottawa, Ontario two weeks ago but I realized how the tail was made when a big gap would appear to my front or back when swimming, even tied with a sash belt it would just slip out and make things more cumbersome and it made way to show buttoms when swimming on belly. It`s mid to low rise cut to waistline. As for colours, they are not pastel, they have a nice vibrate colour. My camera does not pick up colour quality Finfolk would do with their camera. If the tail does not get sold within a couple of weeks, I may consider for repairs but personnally I would prefer having a neoprene taill like Hannah Fraser`s per example. Lighter for cosplay photoshoots and conventions. Hope it helps. Thank you once again.

Mermaid Adriel
08-17-2014, 07:45 AM
So beautiful ** I hope it finds a good home...

AniaR
08-17-2014, 09:27 AM
I figured it might be a pool thing I hear a lot of complaints from mers in the area who can't get access. So sorry!

Mermaid Lorelei
08-17-2014, 04:38 PM
Hmm... this looks interesting. Pink isn't my color, but do you know if Finfolk does repaint jobs like Merbellas?

Merman Arion
08-17-2014, 04:41 PM
Hmm... this looks interesting. Pink isn't my color, but do you know if Finfolk does repaint jobs like Merbellas?

I believe they do! You want me to ask them? I often talk to Abby and Bryn on FB :)

Mermaid Lorelei
08-17-2014, 04:53 PM
If you want to. :P

Finfolk Productions
08-18-2014, 12:55 AM
Hey guys,

Quick reminder that we read through the network regularly. If you have concerns about our work we ask that you bring questions to us directly, versus speculating. ( :( )We would *never* alter photos beyond typical editing procedures. This is very obviously a difference in lighting, camera, and exposure.

Thanks for understanding!

Finfolk Productions
08-18-2014, 01:11 AM
I hope you find a good home for it!

Although I have to say.. the colors hardly look like they're the same tail... looks like a layer mask was used in photo editing to super saturate the colors of the tail (and just the tail, which is why the table and snow aren't saturated with color) as well as the contrast, and maybe even used hue change to make it even more pink- when the tail is actually more pastel and white than hot pink like the FinFolk Pictures show. I know tail colors can be hard to show in pics, but saturating the color to the degree that it doesn't even look like the same paint job.. just, why? *confused*

Would never do such a thing. The photos we've shared have only undergone typical editing from raw image format. We would never, ever select a tail from a photo and alter it only. (Really, way too much work- and we're super proud of our paint jobs, we'd never try to cover them up!)

Mermaid Galene
08-18-2014, 10:29 AM
I'm glad FinFolk had a chance to step in here. Their integrity, IMO, is unquestionable, and I know they would never misrepresent the colors of a tail. They would have absolutely no motivation for doing so, since their tail colors in real life are saturated and superbly well painted!

I have done a whole lot of Photoshopping over the years - hundreds if not thousands of photos and videos. Most photos as captured by a camera don't have perfect lighting or exposure. (Arion's original photo is an example of this; it's slightly underexposed. The edited version is simply brighter.) Correcting exposure, removing unwanted shadows, or even boosting color saturation when the original lighting was poor, does not change the fundamental hue of colors in the image. It merely brings the appearance of the edited photo closer to what the eye sees in real life.

Photoshop certainly can be used to lie. The mainstream media does it every day, particularly on photos of models or celebrities. But I'm sure professional tailmakers, by and large, would never do that.

Sherielle
08-18-2014, 10:55 AM
I want a betta tail SO BAD! Especially if Finfolk were to repaint it, but I just can't foot 2k, right now.

AniaR
08-18-2014, 11:07 AM
yeah Finfolk? Do you do repaints as Lorelei asked? I keep thinking that be a great thing for more tail makers to do would probably increase sales of used tails and create brand loyalty.

Mermaid Jessica Pearl
08-18-2014, 11:22 AM
The pearly pigments also look insanely beautiful and vibrant when full sun is hitting them as opposed to artificial light. My tail just glows and reflects so beautifully in the sun. And I have seen pics that the seller has posted before and this tail looks ammmaaazing outside! I can't wait to see more pics of it's new owner wearing it :)

Seaweed
08-18-2014, 11:58 AM
Hey guys,

Quick reminder that we read through the network regularly. If you have concerns about our work we ask that you bring questions to us directly, versus speculating. ( :( )We would *never* alter photos beyond typical editing procedures. This is very obviously a difference in lighting, camera, and exposure.

Thanks for understanding!

Ok, but a lot of people message you but you guys sometimes, don't really reply

Winged Mermaid
08-18-2014, 07:10 PM
Hey guys,

Quick reminder that we read through the network regularly. If you have concerns about our work we ask that you bring questions to us directly, versus speculating. ( :( )We would *never* alter photos beyond typical editing procedures. This is very obviously a difference in lighting, camera, and exposure.

Thanks for understanding!

Typical editing procedures DO include adjusting levels and/or curves, exposure, contrast, and vibrance and/or saturation ;) The photos that you sent Merman Arion, that he posted, proves that. I hope you'll excuse the flustered nature of my first post, as to me it looked like there was a larger difference in editing than usual, and it would be disappointing to me if you were misrepresenting your tails since I love your work. Thus why I backtracked in my second post and instead asked the actual owner what the colors are actually like, since they would know!

Also what Seaweed said, you must have dozens of people messaging you a day, and I would not expect to hear back over something trivial, like the saturation of a photo, when you have actual customers waiting.

While you're on here though- what about those asking about the gapping issue, repainting, and damage repairs and if you'd be able to accommodate those needs? I'm sure it would help the resell on Finfolk tails if folks knew those where things you could do for your second hand tails!

AniaR
08-18-2014, 08:43 PM
you gotta admit the two pics are pretty drastic. You cant blame people for making an observation. And if someone saw the finfolk pic and not the other and bought the tail they could end up very dissapointed. I actually just figured the colors had faded from a lot of use, that happens a lot when pigments are out in direct sunlight. when Raven took my tail back after the first year for touchups, we looked at before and after pics and it was drastically different after being in the sun so much.

Those pics really do look drastically different though. Look at the others: https://www.facebook.com/mariejosie.cayer/media_set?set=a.10152562130070155.1073741858.53443 5154&type=1&l=32478c988a

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/p417x417/644553_10152081189785155_942528930_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10552653_10152535795655155_299911947205616928_n.jp g

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/1521212_10152534066505155_1531959120137732182_n.jp g


Here's my point and I really ask that you read carefully:

when someone posts a tail for sale it doesnt matter who the tail maker is. People will scrutinize to be sure they're getting their money's worth and that they have the correct expectations for their purchase- considering we're talking so much money. there's no need to get upset. This is normal. It's not an attack on finfolk or speculation or anything. Its been a part of the buy/sell process long before your company existed. Look at all the classifieds here, look at links to ebay sells. They are observations, and no one is trying to start drama, or make you look bad. they're just observations. You cant deny the photos look drastically different. Now whether that's a difference of camera or lighting, whatever. But it's drastic enough that it's valid for people to make an observation.

I actually like the more muted colors, like I said if I had the money and if the size was just slightly different I'd love to have purchased it for our company for mermaid Mimi. it's totally her colors and I was reading the measurements thinking if it fit maybe I could charge it or something. Would have been so nice buying from another Canadian to avoid custom fees ;)

I know you girls probably get ancy and I was chatting with sean about this the other day with all the drama from he who shall not be named years ago, I think there's a stigma for tail makers on here. No one wants to look like he did or be involved in the same kind of stuff and I know you girls are working so hard to be above all that. I can see it with how you manage wait times, have a staff, post udates etc, You're doing your best to make up for where other tail makers are weak and it's awesome. But part of the territory is just understanding people are going to talk and discuss things. He who shall not be named ended up being banned from here cuz all he did was come in and argue with people who posted stuff and it became an unsafe place where no one felt they could post honest criticisms without being attacked. I don't think you're like that at all, but the last long time of posting nearly all your posts have been directed to people's criticism.

I find it frustrating too not defending everything people may think about me. But a good friend once told me, it makes us all look a little more "real", authentic, and sincere if people have a few criticisms. Most people will look at company and go with the one that has the odd complaint or criticism over the one with a flawless record. people get suspicious of a flawless record. Especially in this community because of the past with you know who ;)

Im with arion, if you edit photos so people get a better sense of how vibrant the colors can be in certain light go for it. Like people posted about my tail- looks crap in indoor lighting and shines outside (metallic pigments for the win). I certainly touch it up in indoor photos if it ends up looking dull and in-mermaidy. I've noticed in your professional pics it's not like you badly blur out the waist line or any wrinkles that pop up (does anyone else cringe when tail makers do that?) so that's great. I think that's the stuff people get nervous about. Plus he who shall not be named used to use the same damn photos and just change the colors. The tail I bought from him was a 100% fake photo :( As you can see it's just a touchy spot in the community.

Marie it still breaks my heart you cant find a place to swim. I am hoping as we advance Canadian mermaids we'll get enough notoriety and pull that we can get more pools in Quebec to embrace mermaids. I have a full plan to try and get them to understand, and a plan for insuring Quebec mermaids too. but just not fast enough :(

Finfolk Productions
08-18-2014, 10:14 PM
Thanks for all the clarification on your points, guys! We appreciate you taking the time! We love constructive criticism, we only step in when we want to clarify an issue that may be of special concern or may be misinformation.

As for repairs, yes, we will always do those when requested. :D As for repaints, we will do those, but with the disclaimer that sometimes old silicone does not take new paint well! New paint on an old tail may be more susceptible to scrapes or peeling. Unfortunately not much can be done to completely avoid this- paint adheres best to silicone that is still in it's "green" state and which hasn't been exposed to elements or chemicals.

As always, thanks for the love and support!

AniaR
08-18-2014, 10:51 PM
Yay!!!<3

Marie-Josie Cayer
08-19-2014, 04:54 AM
Ania, we will see what can be done. I intent to keep the tail for sale until the end of August at least. If nothing happens until then, well I may consider repairing it. I do accept reasonable offers and merpersons can PM me if there`s something. Thanks.

BlueMermaid
08-19-2014, 08:54 AM
Finfolk, how much can the tail be altered? Can it be taken in to a much smaller size?

Marie-Josie Cayer
08-26-2014, 05:49 PM
Concerning altering, you would have to talk to Finfolk or another mermaid tail maker about it.

I am considering lowering my price to 2000$US plus shipping if anyone in interested into it.

Please let me know if there's anything. Thank you.

Marie-Josie Cayer
08-28-2014, 08:40 PM
I have reconsidered and I will keep my mermaid tail and get some repairs done when I get appropriate funds. I hope to find a suitable place to swim in a near future and try to participate in more mer related events when they are made possible. Thank you for understanding.

shimmygoddess
08-28-2014, 10:02 PM
Personally, I think its wrong to edit any tail progress photos or even the final photos that are sent to the client. Only because then they are expecting the tail to look one way...bright and vibrant but when they actually receive it, the color saturation is off. As a photographer I can totally understand why this is done and I always edit to photos, but as a mermaid client I would want the initial photos I receive to represent the colors as accurate as possible. **Just a general statement not directed at anyone.


Of course it's edited! I thought everyone already knew that. Here are some examples with my tail :

Sherielle
08-29-2014, 09:29 AM
I have reconsidered and I will keep my mermaid tail and get some repairs done when I get appropriate funds. I hope to find a suitable place to swim in a near future and try to participate in more mer related events when they are made possible. Thank you for understanding.I don't blame you! It's a beautiful tail and it would be so hard to part with it if it were mine.

Marie-Josie Cayer
09-19-2014, 05:00 PM
After reconsideration and re-assessing the current sitution I am facing, I finally decided to put my mermaid tail set for sale and it will include all accessories as a complete set. I have made a listing on Ebay and wanted to share with you: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181532448959

Thank you once again.
Marie-Josie Cayer

Mermaid Melusinah
09-19-2014, 05:24 PM
Aww This breaks my heart! <3 I know how excited you were about this tail when I worked with you designing the accessories. :( I truly hope this goes to a loving home! It's really a beautiful tail! <3
I saw you mention needing neoprene. Talk to Siren's Calling. She makes amazing REAL hand painted NeoPRENE (NOT neoprin) tails. <3

Mermaid Riia
09-20-2014, 07:49 AM
Awh :( this is sad news..


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Mermaid Sirenia
09-24-2014, 10:19 PM
I wish it was in my size xD the more finfolk tails the merrier!


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