H20 or Ariel?

[Merman Arion]

Hi guys :)

some of you already know that I'm planning to buy a second tail from Finfolk Productions.
I currently own a blue tail from them which is my dream tail and I love it. However, tails are like tattoos and once you start having one, you are craving for more and I would like to own a second one for more diversity. The inner fan in myself would like a rendition of two classics :



"H20 Just Add Water" the australian show
"The Little Mermaid" from Walt Disney


Obviously, a custom new fluke will have to be made but I checked with Finfolk and they loved both ideas.
There is one problem though... I don't know which one to choose! One day, I want H20, the day after it's the Ariel tail. It's a nightmare! :cry:

I can see myself wearing the two of them but I'm having a tough time making a decision so I'm interested to hear your advices.
The following images are just examples but there are, in my opinion, to the best rendition of the classics. The tail from H20 is from The Mertailor and the Ariel tail is from Merbella Studios.

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Do not forget to click on the poll. Thank you very much for your help.

[Mermaid Crystal Shimmer]

I'd go for the Ariel tail. (Simply because I'm a TLM fan and green looks great with redheads ;) )
I've never been fond of the H2O tails.

[Mermaid Evolet]

I'd say an H2O tail, because I think it would suit you better with your hair color and style.:mermaid kiss:
I hope it helps your decision.

[Lydia Lobster]

Hard decision to make... I am really not an H2O Fan, but the tails are very nice.

I grew up with the little mermaid and so I (!) would pick the Ariel tail, of course.

But: In MY opinion he H2O one is more masculine and would look awesome on you, i think ... its really a (hard!) question of taste...

( and who is saying that you can't have both tails, one day ? ;) )

[Mermaid Adriel]

I agree with Lydia, H2O are better for you :)

[Mermaid Jaffa]

Zac's tail. I love that fluke!

[MerShellly]

Zac's tail. I love that fluke!

I agree with ireneho, but if not Zac's then I would say the h2o tail because I think it suits you better. I understand why it's so hard for you to pick tho :)

[Kishiko]

It's a gurrrlllllll tail (<< cue shrek reference :lol:)

but yeah i think Zacs tail would be killer on you!

[MermaidCecelia]

H2o would look great! As well as the Ariel tail
Buttttt I'd say try h2o style first

[Merman Arion]

Zac's tail. I love that fluke!


It's a gurrrlllllll tail (<< cue shrek reference :lol:)

but yeah i think Zacs tail would be killer on you!


I agree with ireneho, but if not Zac's then I would say the h2o tail because I think it suits you better. I understand why it's so hard for you to pick tho :)

Thank you girls for your input but if I was going for Zac's tail, I would have said "Mako Mermaids" instead of "H20 Just Add Water" ;)
To me, they are two different shows.

[Kishiko]

Ohhhh yeah sorry I thought it was in general :P I agree, the h2o would also look super awesome!!

[Merman Dan]

Alas, I have only seen snippets of H2O, when my girls watched a few episodes. That being said, the tail on the left looks more fun to swim in!

[MermanOliver]

Looking at the fluke shapes, I think the H2O tail might give more propulsion than the Ariel one, if that helps somehow.
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[Raayvhen]

There aren't nearly enough green mermen. I say the Ariel tail!

[Merman Arion]

Alas, I have only seen snippets of H2O, when my girls watched a few episodes. That being said, the tail on the left looks more fun to swim in!


Looking at the fluke shapes, I think the H2O tail might give more propulsion than the Ariel one, if that helps somehow.

Thanks guys! Don't forget to vote :)

[Mermaid Fenicia]

Maybe a mix of both tails: the shape of H2O with the colors of Ariel, or the other way round ;)

[Merman Arion]

Maybe a mix of both tails: the shape of H2O with the colors of Ariel, or the other way round ;)

Eric made a tail like that but I don't know because I find the result somehow... unnatural.

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[Mermaid Fenicia]

I think the other way round is nicer ;) Shape of Ariel's tail with the H2O-colors ;)

[CowgirlMermaid]

Yeah, that coud look cool! An Orange Ariel tail.
(Or go with the Ariel style, but do the colors of Tritons tail?)

[Merman Arion]

I think the other way round is nicer ;) Shape of Ariel's tail with the H2O-colors ;)


Yeah, that coud look cool! An Orange Ariel tail.
(Or go with the Ariel style, but do the colors of Tritons tail?)

Thanks girls but it wouldn't be a rendition of the classics anymore ;)

[Anahita]

I'm pulling for the Ariel tail simply because I think Finfolk could do an awesome and unique take on it. The H2O tail doesn't leave much creative room... But a little mermaid tail does.

Also, I'm a sucker for a man in green. ;)

[Echidna]

so you want a rendition of a staple classic tail, and both are from famous females.
Maybe for recognition? ("Oh look, ARIEL-MAN!!")

I would totally get it if you simply wanted an orange tail, or a green one.
As it is, I find it a bit confusing.

I'd go for green, but definitely with a different design for a merman lol.

[Mermaid Wesley]

I think you can have a tail based on a girls tail or a boys tail or a fish's tail or idk Ursula if you wanted to. This is a
tough call.... I would go with h2o. I think you would look better in gold. But that's just from the few pics I've seen of you :) but then again I really wanna see finfolk do Ariel..... Hmmmmm this is hard!


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[Jonny]

Yeah I totally agree, personally I would go with the H2O tail purely because I love how it looks but I think the Ariel tail looks stunning as well. If you are really stuck then just watch some episodes of H2O and the little mermaid and then decide, well that normally works for me.

[Mermaid Jaffa]

I chose Zac's tail because its rare to see on another mer. The design of it feels more manly I think.

[Mermaid Wesley]

He doesn't want to do zacs tail :)


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[Lostariel Telrunya]

To be honest, it can be hard to try and do a complete copy of a female's tail, simply because the design of the tail is normally contoured to fit a different shape on a female than a male. For example, a lot of female tails want to emphasize the curves of the legs, whereas a male's tail wouldn't focus as much on that. A lady's tail might have a sort of v shape at the waistline, but that may look a bit weird on a guy.
I love green tails personally, but I don't like the fluke on the Ariel tail you had, or how the artist rendered it. The H2O tail could look more masculine, but there are a TON of tails out there that look exactly/extremely similar to them already, if you care about originality.
I think you could do a really cool Ariel tail that has been modified slightly for a guy's physique, just be careful with the fluke: Ariel's tail is probably the hardest to do because of the floppiness and translucency of it in the movie, and, unless you are a certain someone *cough* *cough*-PearlieMae-*cough*.... it is quite difficult to get the right effect on the fluke. I would LOVE to see your rendition though!

[SeaNymph]

Neither one, because I think both tail types will be associated with girls and female figures. I would go for Finfolk's Poseidon fluke!

[Raayvhen]

I feel like a lot of you are really be gender exclusive towards feminine tails. Stop.

Arion can have whatever type of tail he wants.

Masculine doesn't always have to equal male and feminine doesn't always have to equate to female.

[Anahita]

I'm going to agree with Raayvhen here.

What at does it matter if the inspiration tail was originally masculine or feminine? This kind of gender-rigidity and inability for so many people commenting here to see past that is REALLY disheartening. This community is supposed to be better than that.

[Mermaid Wesley]

Thats right. Girls can wear pants men can wear skirts and makeup if they so chose and Arion can have a tail based on whatever the hell he wants because A) gender roles are absolutely optional. B) Its not really anyone else's business. C) who's actually gonna say shit to him if he has a tail based on a mermaid's tail that he doesnt already get as a merman.

why are you all trying to undermine him? he said what he wants and he asked your opinion on one or the other. dont have anything nice to say? say nothing. plain and simple.

[Mermaid Jaffa]

How bout a demon tail? With spikes and pointy fins?

[Merman Arion]

I feel like a lot of you are really be gender exclusive towards feminine tails. Stop.

Arion can have whatever type of tail he wants.

Masculine doesn't always have to equal male and feminine doesn't always have to equate to female.


I'm going to agree with Raayvhen here.

What at does it matter if the inspiration tail was originally masculine or feminine? This kind of gender-rigidity and inability for so many people commenting here to see past that is REALLY disheartening. This community is supposed to be better than that.


Thats right. Girls can wear pants men can wear skirts and makeup if they so chose and Arion can have a tail based on whatever the hell he wants because A) gender roles are absolutely optional. B) Its not really anyone else's business. C) who's actually gonna say shit to him if he has a tail based on a mermaid's tail that he doesnt already get as a merman.

why are you all trying to undermine him? he said what he wants and he asked your opinion on one or the other. dont have anything nice to say? say nothing. plain and simple.

I really appreciate your support and for that, girls, thank you very much :hug:

Indeed, it would be kind of unfair that no man would be able to wear a H20 tail or an Ariel tail under the reason that the original characters were females. I find that kind of discriminatory. Like I previously said, Zac's tail is from the show "Mako Mermaids" and it's a different show compared to the original which was called "H20 Just Add Water". I admit his tail is beautiful and the shape of the fluke looks really nice but it would be too predictable and kind of boring that I choose this tail under the reason that I'm a guy.

I like to do things differently, it's a part of my personality. If I feel like wearing a tail worn previously by females characters, why not? Besides, like some people commented here, the H20 tail could be very masculine for me. I have confidence that whether the tail I will pick, the rendition will be great and I can send very masculine vibes to the public. I don't want this to turn into drama so it's cool. I'm not offended. Everyone is entitled to share their opinions here. I asked for that, hence the poll because I find the debate interesting. I appreciate the honesty here, I prefer much that to hypocrisy :)

Edit : Remember that the poll gives you two choice. It's either H20 or the Ariel tail. I will not change my mind from these two but thanks for any different suggestion ;)

[Winged Mermaid]

That's a hard one! The only drawback I think is no matter which way you go, kids are going to be bugging you all the time about where you got it, how much it was, and if you'll give them yours XP

[Merman Arion]

That's a hard one! The only drawback I think is no matter which way you go, kids are going to be bugging you all the time about where you got it, how much it was, and if you'll give them yours XP

Hahaha. You might be right, Iona. I'm prepared for that ;)
And what would be your opinion? Of course it's a hard one but it wouldn't be fun otherwise :p

Edit : It's the second day and I find the current results of the poll really interesting!
30 people voted so far and the H20 tail is leading first but the Ariel tail is staying strong. I wonder what's gonna be like in 5 days.

[Winged Mermaid]

I like the H2O tail design way better! I also think the design will be more unique- after all because TLM is a classic it's kind of been done to death. But that's just my opinion ;)

[Kishiko]

I'm still pulling for the H2O, I agree with Iona! I'm only worried you're going to have little kids screaming at you asking why you stole Ariel's tail or the h2O girls' tail! :lol:

[Merman Dan]

Harold the merman (http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Harold_the_Merman) had a green tail in early concept art (back when Ursula was a lion fish).

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925170725/disney/images/thumb/e/eb/Ursulaharold.PNG/500px-Ursulaharold.PNG

[SeaNymph]

Haha, that's too cool, Dan!!! Okay, I love Ireneho's idea of a demon tail but if your choice is just between these two girly tails I would vote for Ariel. Green would look good at you and the style is mystic.

[Merman Dan]

How bout a demon tail? With spikes and pointy fins?

I once considered using the black chimaera as the inspiration for a tail:
http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Chimaera.jpg

[Mermaid Jaffa]

What an odd looking fish! It has a dog's face!

[Merman Dan]

The chimaera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimaera) is related to sharks and rays. I used them as the basis for the krana, or sea orcs, in my undersea D&D game.

[Lostariel Telrunya]

Dude, that fish would make an awesome tail! Arion, I hope you did not take my other comment the wrong way. The point I was trying to make was that if you are doing one of these tails, make it your own tail, I wouldn't do a complete copy. I personally think if you aren't going to change much from the original design, the H2O tail would look super cool on you. The Ariel tail is always a bit difficult to render in silicone or latex because of the reasons I said previously, but if you did do the Ariel tail, I think it would also look awesome, but it all depends on how much of your own artistic flair you're going to put into it!

[PearlieMae]

Funny, I don't see either tail as feminine.

And no offense to either tailmaker, I don't really care for either one. I don't like the unfinished look of the h2o tail, and I don't like the waistband of the Ariel tail. I'm sure they are well crafted, I just don't care for the looks.

Lostariel, I could rock that Ariel fluke! ;)

[Lostariel Telrunya]

Oh yes you could! I think that's what you should do for your next project, is make the best Ariel tail anyone has ever seen :) You can use 'short-and-stubby' and make it as fishy-floppy-flowy as you want!

[Merman Arion]

I don't like the unfinished look of the h2o tails

You think? In my opinion, it doesn't look bad in this photo. I have no doubt that Finfolk can create an amazing replica with the scales of my first tail :)

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[Yulia]

I'm sick and tired of all the H2O renditions (yet all of them is pretty, it's just a matter of taste!)
So I voted for Ariel, it's more of an "unexplored territory" I think.

You would rock a red Ariel-tail, like Arista.

[Merman Arion]

I'm sick and tired of all the H2O renditions (yet all of them is pretty, it's just a matter of taste!). So I voted for Ariel, it's more of an "unexplored territory" I think.

Interesting opinion. An "unexplored territory"?
Iona was saying earlier that the Ariel tails had been done to death by fans and tail makers but we don't see many of the H20 tails.

To my knowledge, only Eric, Jesse and Mike Van Daal made renditions of the H20 tails. That's like.. three people.

[Yulia]

Interesting opinion. An "unexplored territory"?
Iona was saying earlier that the Ariel tails had been done to death by fans and tail makers but we don't see many of the H20 tails.

To my knowledge, only Eric, Jesse and Mike Van Daal made renditions of the H20 tails. That's like.. three people.
I've seen like, the Merbella Ariel-tail that's silicone and really trying too look like the real thing.
With "homemade" tails i'd say it's probably 50/50, but personally I'm tired of all the H20 flukes everywhere.
There's a lot of green tails out there, but there's got to be more to it than just the color to be an ariel tail.
Again, it's my view on it, and since orange isn't one of my favourite colors that may alter my judgement... ;)

Though, the Loreena fluke looks a bit like the Arielfluke, an H20-Finfolk fluke might be a better add to their repetoir, so to speak.

[Keiris]

It's interesting. I don't find either shape particularly masculine or feminine looking on their own. In TLM, all the merpeople are swimming together in silhouette and they all have the same shape to their tail regardless of their sex. The shape of the H20 tails is genderless. Both tails actually have MUCH less detail in them compared to some of the elaborate creations that Mike, Raven, Finfolk, Mertailor, Pearlie etc. have made especially with the addition of all the decorative fins. Arion has a very masculine appearance anyway. Neither of those shapes will look innately feminine on his body whether they are painted in greens OR goldens.

[MarkF]

H2o for me. More real looking.
Thank Anahita, I miss the question originally.

[Anahita]

H2o- I had to think this one over the night.
The Little Mermaid /Spash tail is the traditional silicone style tail had emphases all the curve of it host. It also uses those curves to stay on.
The H2o style shows little to no shape of the legs of the host, instead allows for a different method of staying on the host.
I personally like the H2o for less heel appearence because the fin projects from the bottom, center of the foot and in my case it's more forgiving in building. Personally, I will use different scales, Merfamily here has expanded the possibilities far beyond either of those to shows.
If you like the Little Mermaid, just do it.

He's not looking into an extended neoprene tail, FYI. Finfolk doesn't make those. His tail is still going to be a silicone tail like what he has now. Arion is just asking about the colorscheme and fluke style, not the actual structure of it.

Also, other men wear silicone tails, they stay on because they are made to the wearers measurements, not because they're curvy. ;)

[Meilyn]

Personally, I'm in love with the Loreena fluke if you couldn't tell lol.

I would go for an Ariel color scheme tail with the Loreena fluke. I freaking love that fluke! And I think it might work.

It has the same curves, but I really think it would go well with the Loreena.
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I think they would do a grand job with it. Simply using the loreena.

But again, I'm a Loreena fluke sloot LOL.

[Merman Arion]

@Meilyn

I see your point but the Loreena fluke is way too spiky to my tastes to be used as a fluke for the Ariel tail. I would rather have a smoother fluke instead. And I find the end of the scales too pointed as well. Maybe I'm just being picky lol :p

[Anahita]

I do think the Loreena is too spiked for it, but I see where she's going with the shape. Of all the mermaid flukes out there, the Loreena looks closest to TLM, I think. It's also why I think Finfolk could easily create a beautiful, wonderful, and unique recreation of TLM tails.

Ariel's tail, because it's from a cartoon, doesn't have a lot of detail, and as such, in recreating it, there's room for interpretation. I think Abby and Bryn could interpret it beautifully. The H2O fluke on the other hand... It kind of feels done to death and really, because it comes from a live-action TV show, really doesn't leave much to the artist's individual talents to take over.

Of course, this is all a matter of opinion. I could be 100% off and completely in the opposite direction of where you're thinking. I wouldn't put it past me, lol!

[Sherielle]

I voted for the H2O tail because I also agree that Ariel is sort of cliché when it comes to mermaids.
Also, as far as men wearing mermaid tails? Balderdash.
I see it more like cosplay and some of my favorite cosplays are when they mix the genders. I have a Wolverine cosplay that I'm working for myself.
Arion,
Good luck in the choice! It's a hard one!.

[MerEmma]

Oh man, tough choice. I hadn't voted until now because I was struggling to decide. You'd rock either design no matter what. ;D

[Mermaid Jaffa]

I also like the tails that your friend drew of you and some friends. I can't remember where I saw it, but I think you know which one.

[Merman Arion]

I also like the tails that your friend drew of you and some friends. I can't remember where I saw it, but I think you know which one.

You mean this drawing? :)

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[Mermaid Morgann]

I was never a fan of the H2O tails. They were more realistic but I had thought the color scheme was not as pretty as I would have hoped for a show tailored to a younger generation of audience. I know that the Ariel tail can be seen as cliche but there are a plethora of orange tails similar to the H2O one and the one from Splash out there, and I see orange as an over-done color. The Ariel green also has a lot of creative potential as you can do a variety of greens, a variety of fins and additions, etc. You can even simply base the tail loosely off of Ariel. The same does go for an H2O style tail, too. I just see a lot more variety as an option with an Ariel tail (though I'm sure you can also do plenty with an H2O tail) and have already seen a lot of orange-colored mermaids.

[Meilyn]

You could always ask A+B to shave down the Loreena tips and make it less spiky and more smooth? as well Arion :)

[Mermaid Jaffa]

You mean this drawing? :)

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Yes. That one swimming below you with mako tail with long tips or the one on the far right, nearly an Ariel tail. Heck, I love them all!

[CowgirlMermaid]

I think you should go with the Ariel look.
The guy in the drawing with the Ariel style looks cool.
I think you should make the green colors just a little bit darker than the original.
Not to much, just a little darker, to make it a little bit more fit for a guy.
I think you could pull it of. :)

Good luck with making a choice :thumbs-up:

[Maethor]

Personally I think the Ariel tail would be stunning! The colors would be so rich and deep, especially made by Finfolk!

[Merman Arion]

Hi everyone.

It's the last day before the poll close. Don't hesitate to share your opinion here. I'm interested to hear everything :)

[SeaGlass Siren]

i voted H20 because i feel the green ariel tail is overdone.

[Mermaid Crystal Shimmer]

What actually surprises me is that Finfolk hasn't done much green tails. A lot of fire colors and pink/purple hues and blues.. but not a lot of green.

[Chrissy]

I went with the green b/c I think that color would look stunning on you, I also love love love the fluke shape!

[Merman Arion]

Thank you guys for your participation :)

H20 is the winner and your help just confirmed my choice. I'm gonna be working on the design now.

I might place an order with Finfolk sooner than planned because I'm just so excited!

[Mermaid Evolet]

Thank you guys for your participation :)

H20 is the winner and your help just confirmed my choice. I'm gonna be working on the design now.

I might place an order with Finfolk sooner than planned because I'm just so excited!

I'm glad we all could help :group hug:

I'm really excited to see the design.