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Mermaid Jaffa
10-28-2014, 09:10 AM
Wondering if anyone here is entering?

I'm not sure yet, though it would be nice to see how some my homemade tails look with a digital print on them.

Here is the link in case you're thinking to enter.

https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079&app_data=37691

Echidna
10-28-2014, 10:36 AM
oh, nice find!

I wonder if they'll put up the winning design as purchasable?
That'd be neat. I voted for the Northern Lights tail, but it looks like it won't have a chance, as this is basically a "who's the most popular on FB"-contest :(

I honestly don't understand why they don't take custom orders, everyone has one of the same 3 colours.

Mermaid Jaffa
10-28-2014, 05:23 PM
I would love to see one in red. Not bright Christmas red but a dark blood red.

I'll enter anyways, who knows, I might win some free tails! Then I can totally scrap the first Magictail I bought into a top or something.

BriannaPixieDee
10-28-2014, 06:04 PM
Totally entering! :D

Edit:

Entered. (https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079&app_data=37691-628215)

Mermaid Saoirse
10-29-2014, 07:10 PM
I entered the competition! My design is Aqua Forests (https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079&app_data=37691-628565). :)

AniaR
10-29-2014, 07:35 PM
what bothers me a lot is the image they're using to promote it looks like an exact copy of my mermaid nessie's tail, and I know she would be heart broken if they mass produced her design (especially without her permission). I am hoping it's just an image they're using to advertise, and dont intend on making a bunch of tails.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351249_752225958159668_1606962959575676146_n.jpg ?oh=60b86ecfa3fc6adf5849f9bdde97038e&oe=54EB8019

Top lefthand corner. WHen people share the status from the ap, it's the main preview on FB, that image in the top left.

Nessie's tail:

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10473169_457875754349773_678026625582275894_n.jpg? oh=8f3817bf903b3bf77ebdca4e21f8eee0&oe=54E196B6

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10661867_497851963685485_325703220532050398_o.jpg

AniaR
10-29-2014, 07:38 PM
I honestly don't understand why they don't take custom orders, everyone has one of the same 3 colours.

They use a machine to screen print their own fabric and it's pre-programmed to the set designs. It's quite difficult to re=program a new one and would cause many issues if having to constantly program in a new one. (I asked years ago)

Seraphina Suds
10-29-2014, 09:14 PM
Maybe it's because I'm on mobile, but any of the shared links that I try to click on take me to the main Facebook page, not individual design posts or rules or anything. Am I the only one?

Raina, I can definitely see the similarities between the tails. No wonder it looked familiar. But there are a fair amount of differences in the fluke. I think they were just going for a bright and colorful tail to show off the color scheme options?

AniaR
10-29-2014, 09:39 PM
to me it's just too similar. It's one thing when someone gets a single tail that looks like someone else's original creation (Nessie didn't just design it, she made it) but this company aims to mass produce. So I certainly hope they don't do that.

Princess Pearl
10-29-2014, 10:15 PM
I just thought it looked like a mantis shrimp.


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Mermaid Nessie
10-29-2014, 10:20 PM
In all honesty, it was rather upsetting seeing this. I've got a pretty unique looking tail, personally I think it's way too hard to "accidentally" copy something that looks so different. Definitely feeling a little ripped off right now. I'd hope that it is just a drawing and they aren't mass producing this tail.

MerEmma
10-29-2014, 10:46 PM
I definitely see the differences, but at least your fluke is a LOT different from the image! I love your tail so much, and I truly believe it was probably made to use as an example. Hope for the best!

AniaR
10-29-2014, 11:03 PM
aside from that it's a cool contest idea

Echidna
10-30-2014, 05:58 AM
They use a machine to screen print their own fabric and it's pre-programmed to the set designs. It's quite difficult to re=program a new one and would cause many issues if having to constantly program in a new one. (I asked years ago)

good to know, thanks!

I wasn't even thinking of complicate custom designs.
Just a few more different colours maybe, as MTs are so popular, you see them all over the world.

There are no green tails (what they have as "green" is more another yellow with a slightly green tint), no red, no white, no black.

I'm not sure if they copied Nessie's tail with that logo picture.
The fluke is clearly different; it's basically a "photoshop doodle" example, using the colours of the rainbow (in the exact order) from the inside out.
I admit the tail body similarity is harder to explain.
It's not out of the question they came up with it on their own though, because- it happens that people in different part of the world who know nothing of each other come up with exact the same idea.

I think that logo is a placeholder, not an actual design.
You can see the most popular designs on the page.

Hopefully they choose one that is beautiful and unique.

PearlieMae
10-30-2014, 09:58 AM
This is the thing that has always bothered me with any art/design contest. 99% of the time, they run these things to get free designs to exploit for their own profit.

25126

Why give away your designs? Even if you don't win, they still own your intellectual property and you gave it to them freely.

Mermaid Jaffa
10-30-2014, 06:01 PM
Oh. Well no then. I don't want my special designs to become free property.

Mermaid Saoirse
10-30-2014, 06:14 PM
I don't have any real attachment to the design I submitted, so I'm not too worried about it not being mine anymore.

Echidna
10-31-2014, 07:10 AM
whew, I didn't even see that.

I don't think that's ok, unless they mean with "may be printed on bathing suits" that they plan to choose several designs for tail mass production.
And even so, it's a cheap way to get designs (give away 3 free tails and get dozens of designs they never need to pay anyone for).

AniaR
10-31-2014, 12:34 PM
true but it's pretty standard for design contests. I've been on DA 11 years and they partner with loads of groups for design contests and it happens all the time :(

-Annwyn-
10-31-2014, 06:05 PM
what bothers me a lot is the image they're using to promote it looks like an exact copy of my mermaid nessie's tail, and I know she would be heart broken if they mass produced her design (especially without her permission). I am hoping it's just an image they're using to advertise, and dont intend on making a bunch of tails.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351249_752225958159668_1606962959575676146_n.jpg ?oh=60b86ecfa3fc6adf5849f9bdde97038e&oe=54EB8019

Top lefthand corner. WHen people share the status from the ap, it's the main preview on FB, that image in the top left.

Nessie's tail:

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10473169_457875754349773_678026625582275894_n.jpg? oh=8f3817bf903b3bf77ebdca4e21f8eee0&oe=54E196B6

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10661867_497851963685485_325703220532050398_o.jpg


They dont even even remotely look the same! Geez, ROFL!
I think it looks closer to one of Mermaid Kats tails.

deepblue
10-31-2014, 06:24 PM
I have to agree, I don't think they look all that much alike. The body portion is similar, the fluke not at all.

And yeah... nice way to get free designs, I hope everyone is reading all the terms and conditions of entry.

Genevieve
10-31-2014, 07:31 PM
Minus that caveat, it's a neat idea. Not being able to create loads of tails myself, I think it would be kind of cool to see something I created available to everybody.

deepblue
10-31-2014, 08:23 PM
And it's not even uncommon for design or other creative contests to have that caveat. But someone always will be surprised.

QueenZero
11-01-2014, 04:24 PM
While I see the differences between the tail in the contest and Nessie's tail, I don't blame Nessie for being upset. Tails are a very personal thing, especially if you both design and make them yourself. The coloring in the body is rather unique; I can see why Nessie would be upset.
Good luck to anyone who enters!

Mermaid Clara
11-01-2014, 05:36 PM
I made an entry based on one of my designs but not the exact same, but it would me a lot to me if anyone voted for me!
https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079&app_data=37691

CowgirlMermaid
11-03-2014, 03:05 PM
I entered also, with the Monster Tail.
I had a dozen color designs sketched up and let my boyfriend pick one.
The Monster tail was specially drawn for him, so he picked that design for me to enter.

Fantasyartist Xanadu
11-03-2014, 04:46 PM
THE 1st WINNER has been ANNOUNCED!
It’s TRUE! If you vote YOU can have a tail too!!!
Don’t be afraid, give it a try!
https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079
They will have a raffle EVERY Monday. Any vote is entered. Enter now, you can win any Monday until the end of the contest.
That is every monday now through December!Choose the best Design and win a Magictail mermaid costume for swimming.

"Every Monday we raffle a complete Magictail Set.
Here's your chance to win a full mermaid swimming set!
All you have to do is click the link and hit the (VOTE) button.
"
All voters can win.
The first winner from all the voters of the magictail design contest 2014 is Rebecca K Nakagawa
https://www.facebook.com/Bluemoonshadow


Rebecca will get a magictail mermaid costum for swimming for free!
Choose the best Design and win a Magictail mermaid costume for swimming.
Every Monday we raffle a complete Magictail Set.
All voters can win. More than 80 Designs available now!

You can VOTE for more then one design, I HOPE you will consider voting for mine.
It is the Tropical Sunset tail.
Currently it’s in the top 5.
Please help support my design, I’d LOVE to see them make this design for sale.
Thank you!!!

Your vote is an entry to WIN a tail.
https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079

Mermaid Jaffa
11-06-2014, 09:29 PM
Who did the Nautilus Tail? Its beautiful!!!

Fantasyartist Xanadu
11-07-2014, 12:10 AM
Who did the Nautilus Tail? Its beautiful!!!

Mer guyver did the Nautilus currently in 1st place,
My good friend Tiffany did the "dreaming of Nautilus" tail.

AniaR
11-07-2014, 12:15 AM
hey Xanadu... feel free to go introduce yourself in the introduction thread..

MermaidAmestris
11-11-2014, 10:06 PM
I've entered! You can see the Riptide Tail here (https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079&app_data=37691). It's no secret that I need a tail haha. It would really mean the world to me if somebody else voted on mine, but I'm not here to beg for votes. All the same, I hope I win <3 Or at least win one of the raffles

Fantasyartist Xanadu
11-16-2014, 05:45 PM
I've entered! You can see the Riptide Tail here (https://www.facebook.com/Magictail?sk=app_244041225639079&app_data=37691). It's no secret that I need a tail haha. It would really mean the world to me if somebody else voted on mine, but I'm not here to beg for votes. All the same, I hope I win <3 Or at least win one of the raffles

I've been seriously trying super SUPER hard!!!
It's crazy how much I post on fb and yet I wonder if I am wasting my efforts...

I'm not going to give up!!!
I'll keep hoping for a chance. :-)


Please take a moment to Vote in the contest currently running. EVERY one who votes is entering a raffle to WIN their own mermaid tail set!
If you vote for my tail, YOU might win a tail of you very own!
How cool is that?
Magictail design Contest 2014 https://apps.agorapulse.com/go/40269/37691/628921

Mermaid Jaffa
11-24-2014, 07:01 PM
I tried to link them but it only goes to the contest fb main page.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this tail as a Fin Folk one...
Page 5 Entry 91. The Tie Dye tail

And Merbellas or Finfolk fluke.
Page 6 Entry 108 Fantasy (Angel Tail & Fallen Tail)

This one looks familiar too! Not that I'm nit picking, I wanted to see all the entries and vote for my favorites.
Page 14 Entry 261 Deep Blue Sea.

Yulia
11-25-2014, 02:38 PM
The Tie Dye tail looks like a fliptail och one of these Merbella Angler-tails.
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/files.apps.agorapulse.com/contest/entry/634297/b62a5cff-10c8-41fa-8ac7-94eac5a53b14.medium.jpg?time=1416368574000
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/1271762_598854466837304_1970278267_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/1015891_544140295622765_1183340480_o.jpg

CowgirlMermaid
11-25-2014, 02:56 PM
This one look a lot like a tail I've seen that Finfolk made..

Dokterfisch - Surgeonfish (page 7)
https://apps.agorapulse.com/tab/contest/40269/entry/632019

Mermaid Jaffa
11-25-2014, 07:10 PM
There are several there that are based off pro tail makers customer designs. Is that allowed?

I don't know who owns what, so I couldn't add names to tails. After looking at all the entries, I thought most of the tails in the contest look a lot like what I've already seen here.

Unless said tail owners entered the competition to share their beloved tail designs?

Mermaid Nessie
11-30-2014, 04:15 PM
The tie dye tail has my butt.. how awkward.

Mermaid Jaffa
12-02-2014, 03:09 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Magictail/timeline

Scroll down a bit. The lady looks like Mermaid Melissa. Its not her is it?

SeaNymph
12-02-2014, 05:47 AM
Hmm, that is MY Merbella tail in the picture Yulia posted. I will make a hell of trouble if someone of the contestants steals my design. The Tie Dye tail looks close but thank god no exact copy. But this is a stolen photo of a finfolk tail, isnīt it? They call it Neverland tail....
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Mermaid Jaffa
12-02-2014, 09:18 AM
Must be a new addition, didn't see that one there on my previous look through.

Go on their fb page and kick up a stink.

Echidna
12-02-2014, 12:14 PM
They'll just delete and block you.

Yulia
12-02-2014, 02:05 PM
I actually posted to their page, It doesn't bother me if they block me.

MermaidAmestris
12-02-2014, 02:05 PM
I think it should be against the rules for anyone to post a design that's not made on the template that Magictail gave them. I see a lot of pictures of other people's silicone tails, random pictures from Google, and templates for other tails, such as Merbellas and Finfolk templates. It seems fairly obvious to me that a lot of these were stolen. The girl who posted the Neverland tail really upsets me--not only did she steal someone else's design, she didn't even draw it out--just posted a photo of the other person's tail, and then to make it worse she claimed that she and her friend came up with it after watching Peter Pan!

MermaidAmestris
12-02-2014, 02:11 PM
I would comment on her photo or tell Magictail about it, but I doubt they'd do anything

Echidna
12-02-2014, 03:03 PM
Didn't MT state specifically that designs had to be drawn on their provided template?
Just putting up the picture of an actual tail is (hopefully) not going to work.

MermaidAmestris
12-02-2014, 03:19 PM
I thought I read that in the rules too, but it seems like half the people in the contest are just posting random pictures or coloring on other templates

Sherielle
12-02-2014, 03:27 PM
People don't read. Period. I can't count how many times I'll have something posted on my facebook page with the price in the description and I'll STILL get comments of 'How much?'

Arielle
12-02-2014, 08:53 PM
My tail is awful lol https://apps.agorapulse.com/mobile/contest/40269/entry
I didn't want to print the template out. xD

I voted for all the links posted here that worked for me. :D Beautiful creations!

Princess Pearl
12-02-2014, 11:03 PM
It clearly states in the rules that any tail that is based on an existing design will not be accepted. They might be able to upload their entry, because that's all automated, but they can't win.

Mermaid Jaffa
12-03-2014, 02:57 AM
I don't know who owns this tail, but there is an nearly exact copy as an entry. I say nearly because its missing one set of side fins.
https://www.facebook.com/MerBellaStudios/photos/a.353014308087989.81213.178589958863759/356707621051991/?type=3&theater

Page 2, Entry 22 Underwater Magic.

And Idc if I get blocked too. I never heard a reply after I inquired about my very short and small size purple Magictail. They're not tails I tell curious parents about. I always tell them about the merfins and Fin Fun instead!

Back on topic, I'm just going through again, tagging the ones that belong to the pro tail makers and the color schemes that belong to other mermaids.

SeaNymph
12-03-2014, 03:14 PM
This was Ravens personal rainbow tail, which she made for herself, I think two years ago. A masterpiece of art.

Mermaid Jaffa
12-03-2014, 05:55 PM
This was Ravens personal rainbow tail, which she made for herself, I think two years ago. A masterpiece of art.

Does she know someone has copied her tail as their contest entry?

SeaNymph
12-05-2014, 07:46 AM
I donīt think so. Her clownfish tail design has also been copied. Twice. One of these designs was supposed to be drawn by an 8 year old girl. LOL! How stupid do they think people are? Itīs so sad that people donīt come up with own ideas and designs :-(

AniaR
12-05-2014, 07:57 AM
This is what I take issue with. Mass producing someone else's design. A rip off of a rip off. If it was other mediums they'd have to pay a licensing fee to original creators. But this community doesn't seem to think copying matters ( according to the other thread) but I think that is only true until something like this happens to you. All well and good to be open to others having a tail like yours but I am surprised it doesn't piss people off that entries are literally being ripped from other artists and submitted for the chance of being mass produced. If mertailor did this people would be losing their minds.

Miyu
12-05-2014, 08:50 AM
As much as I wouldn't mind terribly someone having a tail based off of/copied from mine... I really don't like that people are stealing the designs of other mers, who have not given permission!!!

Mermaid Jaffa
12-21-2014, 11:48 PM
So who won? All they said was the competition has ended but they didn't state who the winner is.

Mermaid Wesley
12-22-2014, 04:48 AM
Meridian won! She did a nautilus inspired tail! She's a SoCal mer who I've swam with a few times now. I'm very happy for her.


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Mermaid Jaffa
12-22-2014, 05:43 AM
Meridian won! She did a nautilus inspired tail! She's a SoCal mer who I've swam with a few times now. I'm very happy for her.


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Cool! I read that they're only printing 3 of her tails.

I must have misread it the first time as I thought they were going to mass produce that tail and was looking forward to buying a realistic fish tail.

Mermaid Wesley
12-22-2014, 05:49 AM
I think that they are. She gets 3 and then the tail will be available


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Echidna
12-23-2014, 11:20 PM
All the designs are still up on the Magictail site.

They took every single entry, removed the designer's watermark, put their own watermark on it ("Copyright by Magictail"), left the tail descriptions in but removed the author's name.
Instead, they put in "Author: Magictail GmbH"

This bothers me a lot.
It's one thing to say they have all the rights to the designs now, but why remove even the names of those who sent in the designs?

Mermaid Jaffa
01-03-2015, 07:55 AM
It seems they are now going to sell them. "Check in February" was what she said. Whether its Feb 2015 or 2016, I don't know. That was all the info she was willing to give me.