FINSPO mermaidtails

[SeaVixen]

Has anyone heard of this company calls FINSPO mermaidtails? I came across this on etsy and there are no reviews so I figure they're new. They offer full silicone tails for $1450 and latex tails for $650. Just those 2 listings on their etsy.

Silicone tail
https://www.etsy.com/listing/204916267/custom-painted-silicone-mermaid-tail

Latex tail
https://www.etsy.com/listing/204907166/custom-latex-mermaid-tail

[Yulia]

I think it's the same owner that had Merberry?
They have been talked about here somewhere.

[Yulia]

Yes it is, here some more info:

http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?4091-Merberry-Tails-reviews-discussions/page3&highlight=finspo
http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?7879-Merberry&highlight=finspo

[Meronica]

She has a Facebook page as well, where tails are being offered for $1350 (probably without the Etsy fees). And yes, Amanda Avery is creating them.

I would love to order a silicone tail from her but I'm terrified of it falling to pieces or simply not receiving one at all, as I believe she still owes her Merberry customers refunds. :/ It's such a shame because she is the only SoCal tailmaker I know of.

[SeaVixen]

She has a Facebook page as well, where tails are being offered for $1350 (probably without the Etsy fees). And yes, Amanda Avery is creating them.

I would love to order a silicone tail from her but I'm terrified of it falling to pieces or simply not receiving one at all, as I believe she still owes her Merberry customers refunds. :/ It's such a shame because she is the only SoCal tailmaker I know of.
Mernation has $1200 full silicone tails. I wouldn't waste my time on someone who has a bad rep and has scammed so many. She seems to take people's money and blows it before they even get the product and are happy with it. Someone like that shouldn't be owning a business.

[Meronica]

^ I wholeheartedly agree!

[AniaR]

At least she's been trying to refund people unlike fishbutts who fits that description better

[jvry8c]

I have been doing a lot of communicating with her. She is trying to pay people back and is working with silicone now to avoid the problems with latex. I have faith in her but I'm going to see when my tail is finished. I'm a big believer in redemption. She agreed on a written contract as well. Not even king triton can break one of those without legal action. lol

[SeaVixen]

I got an email from Mernation to begin the process of making my tail. They send every customer a packet and included is a contract so they already do this and believe every company should. I got instructions for the duct tape dummy and love how they do that to ensure it fits along with instructions for measurements. The included a detailed invoice. Mine will cost $3210 and they ask for shipping after the product is done and you confirm you love how it looks. I can't wait to begin!!! Finally my life will be complete. I've already been booked for a birthday too!

[jvry8c]

Just a quick update. Amanda has been really good about keeping me informed about my tails progress and sending photo updates. So far I'm happy with her but we'll have to see how it turns out. I'm hopeful though :)

Here are some of the wip pics:
The design. Bet you can guess what fish i'm basing my tail off of.
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Fins
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Tail WIP
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[Aziara]

That's some really cute hip fins!

[Seraphina Suds]

Looks great so far! I hope everything continues to work out~

[MermaidCelesteFL]

Looks like you and Marlin will be good friends.

[PearlieMae]

I wonder how they are going to cast that waist bit?

[Mermaid Lorelei]

Perhaps cut it down the front/middle and lay it out flat then pour a two-part mold?

[Meronica]

It's neat to see that you took the plunge with Finspo. (: I hope that everything works out for you and you end up with an awesome tail! We're all rooting for this to turn out!


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[Mermaid Lunette]

Just a quick update. Amanda has been really good about keeping me informed about my tails progress and sending photo updates. So far I'm happy with her but we'll have to see how it turns out. I'm hopeful though :)

Here are some of the wip pics:
The design. Bet you can guess what fish i'm basing my tail off of.
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Fins
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Tail WIP
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Be sure to keep us updated ^^ I would love to see if she could be a reliable option ^_^

I actually just looked at her face book, is that bright blue fluke for you?

[jvry8c]

Yep. It will be darkened slightly though. So far it looks really cool and I can't wait to take my fins go a swim. Sucks that I'm so land locked in Missouri. Will definitely be making a trip over the summer. Amanda has done a good job if you ask me and I'm really hoping it turns out.

[Yulia]

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[Kishiko]

http://i.imgur.com/56GyEPe.jpg

New tail they just posted

[Yulia]

Not a copy, but reminds me of Annikas Merbella tail.

This finspo tail is pretty, but the straightness looks odd to me.

[Meronica]

I would really like to see her tails on one of her customers. They always look so...straight and then one of the pictures she has on her Facebook appears to show someone wearing a tail, but if you look closely it's really just laying on top of her legs. They also look very flat despite having a monofin, as if they could be cast very very thin or something. :/

I'm really trying to stay optimistic about Finspo as they are located so close to where I live. I hope jvry8c posts a review once they receive their tail.


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[AniaR]

They still look like caulking to me

[Winged Mermaid]

Well the good news is that, if you read their product descriptions and FAQ (https://www.facebook.com/notes/finspo-mermaid-tails/photoshoot-tail-faq/281411652051450) they sell the caulking tails for dry use only, they're called "photoshoot tails".

[Meronica]

Well the good news is that, if you read their product descriptions and FAQ (https://www.facebook.com/notes/finspo-mermaid-tails/photoshoot-tail-faq/281411652051450) they sell the caulking tails for dry use only, they're called "photoshoot tails".

I thought they were latex? Her swimmable "silicone" tails appear to be caulking. :(


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[Kishiko]

I think the green tail is caulking (the scales look stamped) but I think the blue ones are silicone (the scales look like they're actually moulded)

Edit: I looked at the post with the Ariel tail and it is one of the "photo shoot" tails (caulking)

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[AniaR]

I've had many manner of tails. They look like silicone caulking to me due to consistency, the way the paint sits on it, and how it looks cured and how thin they are. It does not look like any kind of dragon skin IMO.

[AniaR]

You can mold caulking FYI.

[Kishiko]

You can mold caulking FYI.

Lol yes I know that. I guess we'll see when jvrc8y gets their tail


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[jvry8c]

Yep yep. Hopefully I will not be disappointed. I'm hoping to get my tail before may 1st. I will do an unboxing video and full review. I wanted to upload a progress pic of my tail but my phone is being dumb @_@.

[jvry8c]

Here are two update photos of my tail. Still a WIP (needs some touch up work, hip fin, stripes, etc) but just to give you all an idea. 2893628937

[Mermaid Wesley]

looks good so far!

[Mermaid Wesley]

Oh, is the fluke peeling?

[jvry8c]

Oh, is the fluke peeling?

still a WIP but yeah that's what it looks like.

[Mermaid Jaffa]

Is she going to hide the big seams in the dorsal fin?

[jvry8c]

she said yes but will have to see.

[Mermaid Wesley]

I hope it works out for you!


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[Yulia]

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[Seraphina Suds]

Not surprised in the least... I hope those who bought tails can still make them work.

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[Seatan]

Yowch... I had a bad feeling about this and guess it was right sadly.

[Ashe]

I've been trying to invite a friend to post on here but I think she's nervous about starting drama. I won't say much but she payed a lot of money for a tail from FINSPO and ended up getting something she really wasn't happy with. I think she's been considering selling it.

[Mermaid Wesley]

She should come and post! It won't start drama if it's just facts. If she's honest it would be ok. We might be able to help her out if it's fixable too.


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[Yulia]

I'm glad Finspo did the responsible thing and stopped taking orders. Kudos to that.
That's more than Mertailor does. I hope she resolves her customer issues too though.

[Imogen Finnly]

Yulia the pictures were broke for me:/ so im sort of lost following this thread. Anyone wanna break it down fo me? ;)

formerly jayy

[AniaR]

did Finspo stop taking orders??? I thought they stopped when they were merberry but now they take orders as finspo??

[Seatan]

Yulia the pictures were broke for me:/ so im sort of lost following this thread. Anyone wanna break it down fo me? ;)

formerly jayy

Basically after some bad reviews FINSPO announced they won't be taking any more silicone tail orders until they have better developed their skills. Looks like another case of having jumped in too soon before perfecting the art, though since they had problems as Merberry they should have known better...

[Meronica]

Super disappointed that the tailmaker closest to me is stealing designs and churning out cruddy products. :(


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[Imogen Finnly]

Thats not a surprising out turn to be honest. I mean they did tank as merberry. If their tails were "dry" why didnit still have a monfin?


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[jvry8c]

Just got mine. Will do a full review of it tonight. Kind of wish I would have shelled out a few more dollars to have my first silicone tail done by mernation instead but we'll have to see. Just glad I got it at all since it was nearly 2 months late and did not think I would get it at one point. Will still be nice to have a silicone tail even though it will not be the 10/10 I was hoping for.

[introverting]

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I've been meaning to post my review. I had a long and let's just say interesting experience with Amanda Avery, in fact, I've rewritten this review countless times considering all factors in the situation, and how to best explain it. Here are just a few photos of my tail, before it was used straight out of the box. I will be separating my review in different replies since I can't do them all at once.

[introverting]

I confess that I impulse bought the tail with my mom's credit card. But here's the story.

The design was inspired by a mertailor tail, which looked like this: http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/26/af816f4b5d13f57b394097b7b8f5e6b4.jpg

Amanda was a very polite and sweet seller, who always replied quickly and kept up to date. Unfortunately though, my dad had decided to take over my etsy account and ask for a refund. She had stopped responding to any messages he had given her after that. (Her policies state that she does not allow any refunds whatsoever)

Two weeks later, the rush order was fulfilled and I had received my tail. My parents had decided to come to terms with it, and accepted my apology for using their credit card. As for the box opening, I wasn't happy as I thought I should have been.

• Embedded hairs, dirt, and paint brush bristles
• Scales weren't completely finished
• Seams looked sloppy and caulky
• Tail came in slightly dirty
• Edges of the fins weren't smoothed out
• Extra silicone hung out of the fluke tips
• A lot of the tail was caulky
• Lacked attention to detail



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[AniaR]

Ughh so much I could say I just don't want you to feel worse. I hope you can make the best of it

[Mermaid Mystery]

I'm glad you came forward after all this time

[MerEmma]

Wow. Those seams are just awful...I'm so sorry.

[introverting]

Of course, I was upset. I had paid $3300, including a $400 top that wasn't worth the price. Since Finspo had stopped responding to any form of communication, I started a case on Etsy for a product inconsistent with the description. I had shown pictures, compared them to the modeled tails, and explained why I deserved a refund. Amanda, however, only responded with the fact that I impulse bought the tail, which had nothing to do with the quality of the product and disregarded everything I had said. She offered free repairs, but I couldn't trust her anymore. She even said that she probably made a better tail than the one pictured—a MERTAILOR tail.

[Mermaid Mystery]

I'm pretty sure everyone here agrees that mertailor doesn't make the best tails, but he has more experience than Amanda. and to be honest the tail looks a lot worse than a majority of mertailor tails I've seen.

[introverting]

Need I say again, her only response to the tail defects was just, "This must be buyer's remorse or a daughter with her parent's credit card." Well of course I would be remorseful for a substandard product.

[introverting]

I sent an apology email to Amanda for causing her so much trouble. Even she herself admitted to the quality not being there yet. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/26/ea1808febdc23b5c4935ec0c8595138c.jpg

[introverting]

Right now, my dad is consulting with American Express for a buyer's guarantee refund. Hopefully I will get the money back. The plan is to use that money to get a better Merbellas tail, then sell the Finspo tail at a cheap price.

[introverting]

More pictures of some defects may or may not be posted. Depends if y'all want to so any more.

[introverting]

Ughh so much I could say I just don't want you to feel worse. I hope you can make the best of it

Thanks Raina, any opinions/input would be great, I wouldn't be offended or anything :)

[Kishiko]

Do you have a full length picture of it?


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[Ashe]

Ouch, Janele. I hadn't known that it was this bad. I really hope things work out for you, but I just feel like the tailmaking market is full of disappointment when it comes to things like this. I wish you the best of luck :thumbs-up:

[introverting]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/26/c374202c7580c1646c5f92b48f75a18c.jpg

Amanda's picture. I guess it looks okay overall.

[Ashe]

It looks near flawless in that picture... Did she send you progress pictures?

[Kishiko]

Looking from that to your photos it looks so retouched tbh


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[introverting]

It looks near flawless in that picture... Did she send you progress pictures?

She promised them but I never got them :/

[Mermaid Momo]

What bothers me about the photos she posted of her tails is how retouched they are. The background looks so blurred, you can't even tell what it's sitting on! (it actually looks to me like she cut and pasted the tail on there) And I would really like to see more photos, do you have any when worn? (because that straight shape she has going on all of her tails are really weirding me out about how it would fit a human that isn't straight.)

[introverting]

I didn't even consider it to be retouched... ugh I'm so stupid [emoji29]

[introverting]

I'll have the photos late tonight, my phone's bugging out :/

[introverting]

What bothers me about the photos she posted of her tails is how retouched they are. The background looks so blurred, you can't even tell what it's sitting on! (it actually looks to me like she cut and pasted the tail on there) And I would really like to see more photos, do you have any when worn? (because that straight shape she has going on all of her tails are really weirding me out about how it would fit a human that isn't straight.)

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[AnnaAbyss]

Ermahgerd, what a gorgeous tail!

[Raayvhen]

Ermahgerd, what a gorgeous tail!

It does look good from a distance, but check out the previous page.

introverting, I'm sorry you had to have this experience, it sounds like a nightmare. At least it looks like with a little tlc this tail could work for the mean time.

[Mermaid Mystery]

no amount of photoshop can hide that missing paint [emoji102]

[Mermaid Crystal Shimmer]

I really hope you can get your money back! It took 2 years to get her to repay the full amount of my merberry tail :/ (she finally paid the last amount a few months back)

[introverting]

I really hope you can get your money back! It took 2 years to get her to repay the full amount of my merberry tail :/ (she finally paid the last amount a few months back)

Thanks Crystal, it's nice knowing there's people out there who went through the same thing.

[Yulia]

You look so cute with it on, I hope that it will be usable and swimmable despite the defects.
What monofin is inside?

[introverting]

You look so cute with it on, I hope that it will be usable and swimmable despite the defects.
What monofin is inside?

Thank you so much!

A finis trainer.

[jvry8c]

here are a few photos of mine. Basically some of the same problems as introverting though not quite as bad. Not quite was i was hoping for for 1700. The tail seems like its worth about 1/4th less considering the problems. Still looks good from afar but i would only really give it a C- as far as a rating goes. I'm kind of disappointed by the seem along the side and the sides of the fluke. Should still be good for swimming and could look worse. I'll know better when I get a another tail in a year or two.
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[jvry8c]

could not get a very good shot with it on since I was alone but this is what it looks like from my perspective. Will have to get a friend to take a few shots with it on. Please excuse the sock and cat toys. My cat was obsessed with the tail when i first put it on and thought it was obviously a giant toy fish for him. :P
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[introverting]

Oh darn... I wish I had kept persistent on the etsy case with them... The whole time Amanda was just being in denial... First ordering from her, I expected such a beautiful tail, and I was so happy to find a tailmaker so close to me.

The thing was I asked her where she was located at. The very first time I chatted with her she said she's in Anaheim, but the next time I talked to her she had relocated to Long Beach. Isn't it sorta suspicious that she keeps moving around?

Ugh... I feel so scammed and stolen of my money.... Thanks for the advice everyone [emoji29]

[PearlieMae]

If she still owes you money, tell her you expect to be refunded.

[jvry8c]

I know exactly how you feel.

[Seatan]

Ugh it looks to me like these are the first few silicone tails she has done. This is the kind of work that people should be doing to practice and giving away, not selling. Mertailor may not be the best quality, but the micro details on the tail make me want to cry! Fight it--fight it hard. You deserve every penny of that $3300 back. It doesn't matter if it looks decent from far away, the actual quality is junk. I would never have sent a tail that looked like that to someone, no matter how much money it cost be to redo it. She doesn't know what she is doing, and she shouldn't have "accepted your apology," she should have apologized to you! I have been there, done that with buyer's remorse, but this is not that. It is simply an inferior product that should be refunded. I don't know what people's problem is that they would send out tails with such detailing issues! Do they have no shame??? (BTW you look gorgeous in it, but the little details make me so mad--quality is in the little touches!)

[jvry8c]

I think the problem is that they don't. There are similar problems with mine. It's also funny (but not) that on the inside of my tail you can see a few strands of red string or something that got caught in the silicone as it was setting. I'm considering posting photos of all the defects but am rather embarrassed to. Honestly it's a passable(ish) tail, however I still feel cheated. I'm sure you do more so than me. For what you payed I would expect WAYYY better.

[jvry8c]

I kind of feel like a fool right now after she told me about her past at merberry but I decided to give her a chance.

[Yulia]

I think the problem is that they don't. There are similar problems with mine. It's also funny (but not) that on the inside of my tail you can see a few strands of red string or something that got caught in the silicone as it was setting. I'm considering posting photos of all the defects but am rather embarrassed to. Honestly it's a passable(ish) tail, however I still feel cheated. I'm sure you do more so than me. For what you payed I would expect WAYYY better.

I had the same feeling to with my last tail, but you have to remember that it's not your fault. You are the one who pays, you are the weaker one in the situation.
I'd like to see more pictures. :)

[Ashe]

Jvry8c, don't be embarrassed to post pictures at all! It's not your job to be embarrassed, it's hers. I remember seeing your original design and being super excited to see the outcome! I would love to see how it could have been done differently by someone else... Not in a rude way haha, it's a really pretty idea! But I think that people who are planning on buying one of these tails should see how a tail that wasn't on rush order looks like.

[introverting]

Ugh it looks to me like these are the first few silicone tails she has done. This is the kind of work that people should be doing to practice and giving away, not selling. Mertailor may not be the best quality, but the micro details on the tail make me want to cry! Fight it--fight it hard. You deserve every penny of that $3300 back. It doesn't matter if it looks decent from far away, the actual quality is junk. I would never have sent a tail that looked like that to someone, no matter how much money it cost be to redo it. She doesn't know what she is doing, and she shouldn't have "accepted your apology," she should have apologized to you! I have been there, done that with buyer's remorse, but this is not that. It is simply an inferior product that should be refunded. I don't know what people's problem is that they would send out tails with such detailing issues! Do they have no shame??? (BTW you look gorgeous in it, but the little details make me so mad--quality is in the little touches!)

Thank you so much, hearing this makes me feel much better :)

[introverting]

I kind of feel like a fool right now after she told me about her past at merberry but I decided to give her a chance.

what did she tell you regarding her past?

[jvry8c]

basically told me she had trouble when she previously worked at merberry and had corrected alot of the issues she had. Will also upload more photos of it tomorrow showing a closer look at it. I believe this sums up my thoughts right now.

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[Mermaid Isabel]

I love GOT :D

[AniaR]

I am so mad you all are going through this yet again. :(

AT this rate we'll see Stevi and Jesse come back having "worked out their issues" and people getting ran over that way too

[jvry8c]

ok so here are some shots of the various defects in the tail. Alot of the problems with it could easily be overlooked in my book if the seam was not so badly done if you ask me. I'm also slightly disturbed that some of the paint ended up on my hand after rolling it around. I'm guessing that's not normal... Still glad to finally have a silicon tail but its not the dream tail I wanted. Also don't mind the hairs since I have a german shepherd and a cat so hair is kind of everywhere.

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[AniaR]

oh man :(

[Seatan]

That is some terrible seaming! And no the paint should NOT be coming off on you. You guys are all too nice. I am such an alpha bitch--I would be getting a lawyer and making their asses sorry they ever messed with me. My biggest personality fault that I am forever trying to work on is that I am not a "nice" person--I am a tell it like it is b-word who spends a lot of time working on being a kinder more gracious person than I am naturally. But when people screw me over I come after them like a hound of the wild hunt and they never, EVER want to mess with me again. Make her refund you! This has happened one too many times in this community--people need to stop getting away with it! Because that is what happens--they get away with it!

If this was a "real world" transaction then these people wouldn't get to pay you back as they please--they would have to sell their cars to refund you and trade their houses for apartments. This "well if it goes wrong I will refund them little by little" mindset is malarkey. We need to figure out a way to ban together as a community and make sure that people realize if they eff people over then they will PAY, and they will have to PAY IMMEDIATELY just like any other business, not at their luxury. Seriously, I am going to think about this, talk to my family's lawyer, and try to figure out if there isn't something we as a community can do to STOP this once and for all. At the very least I think that I am going to draw up legal sell papers that people can use for their tail buys that BIND the person to an expectation of quality or require immediate refund. Somebody has to give these people incentive to stop SCREWING our fellow mers. Then maybe it won't be people who "think" they can do it selling tails anymore since their rear ends will be legally on the line.

[Merman Arion]

@Seavanna

I googled "alpha bitch" for some gifs and I found these ;) :lol:

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[jvry8c]

I have just contacted Amanda. After writing about all the defects and giving photos to prove my point I gave her two alternatives. The first (which might be way to nice) is to ask for a partial refund upfront. I can understand that some work was put in even though the end product is unacceptable in my mind. The other if she refuses is to fight her legally for the full price of the tail. introverting (http://mernetwork.com/index/member.php?5665-introverting) I have also contacted you in a PM. We'll see what she has to say.

[introverting]

The thing is I have gotten legally involved with her—my dad called a lawyer about it. Unfortunately, since she was running her shop on Etsy, I had to start a case on Etsy first. The entire time I had to keep fighting and pushing for reasons why I DESERVED a darn refund, but she ignored all the defects I pointed out, and only brought up the "15 year old girl fraudulently using her dad's credit card" argument. It WAS NOT about that anymore, it was about a SUBSTANDARD PRODUCT that wasn't worth thirty-three hundred effing dollars. I was so tired of fighting with her, since she kept refusing to give the money back and kept saying, "Oh, but my pictures of the tail say otherwise!!! I could do FREE REPAIRS!!!1!1!!" I don't trust her with free repairs. The whole time she treated me like an inferior child that didn't know better. After mental and emotional exhaust, I quit fighting with her and closed the etsy case.

Oh goodness. If I contact her again (after the whole apology thing) what should I say? What should I do about it? I'm so confused now and NDJSJDBSJJ.

[introverting]

That is some terrible seaming! And no the paint should NOT be coming off on you. You guys are all too nice. I am such an alpha bitch--I would be getting a lawyer and making their asses sorry they ever messed with me. My biggest personality fault that I am forever trying to work on is that I am not a "nice" person--I am a tell it like it is b-word who spends a lot of time working on being a kinder more gracious person than I am naturally. But when people screw me over I come after them like a hound of the wild hunt and they never, EVER want to mess with me again. Make her refund you! This has happened one too many times in this community--people need to stop getting away with it! Because that is what happens--they get away with it!

If this was a "real world" transaction then these people wouldn't get to pay you back as they please--they would have to sell their cars to refund you and trade their houses for apartments. This "well if it goes wrong I will refund them little by little" mindset is malarkey. We need to figure out a way to ban together as a community and make sure that people realize if they eff people over then they will PAY, and they will have to PAY IMMEDIATELY just like any other business, not at their luxury. Seriously, I am going to think about this, talk to my family's lawyer, and try to figure out if there isn't something we as a community can do to STOP this once and for all. At the very least I think that I am going to draw up legal sell papers that people can use for their tail buys that BIND the person to an expectation of quality or require immediate refund. Somebody has to give these people incentive to stop SCREWING our fellow mers. Then maybe it won't be people who "think" they can do it selling tails anymore since their rear ends will be legally on the line.

Ugh, I wish I had known about all of this and had this mindset at the time! You go girl!!

[jvry8c]

I understand. Still the paint should not be coming off when i touch the tail or it touches anything else. I spent part of today cleaning up where I put it on to test if it would fit me. Thankfully it at least fits very well.

[introverting]

I have just contacted Amanda. After writing about all the defects and giving photos to prove my point I gave her two alternatives. The first (which might be way to nice) is to ask for a partial refund upfront. I can understand that some work was put in even though the end product is unacceptable in my mind. The other if she refuses is to fight her legally for the full price of the tail. introverting (http://mernetwork.com/index/member.php?5665-introverting) I have also contacted you in a PM. We'll see what she has to say.

Keep us updated with her responses!

[AnnaAbyss]

Holy shit with the money you spent on it you could've bought at tail from Mike Van Daal. O.O

[Ashe]

Holy shit with the money you spent on it you could've bought at tail from Mike Van Daal. O.O
Believe me, I've thoroughly pounded that into her brain :lol: She's hoping to get a Merbella

[SeaMonkey]

ok so here are some shots of the various defects in the tail. Alot of the problems with it could easily be overlooked in my book if the seam was not so badly done if you ask me. I'm also slightly disturbed that some of the paint ended up on my hand after rolling it around. I'm guessing that's not normal... Still glad to finally have a silicon tail but its not the dream tail I wanted. Also don't mind the hairs since I have a german shepherd and a cat so hair is kind of everywhere.

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I feel so bad for you. That is some of the worst work i have ever seen. If i were a tail maker i'd make you a tail for free, thats how bad i feel. i know the anticipation of getting a new tail, especially if is your first. So sorry you were disappointed.

[deepblue]

Anyone wanting only a partial refund for that is being kind. Paying them work is one thing, but that is some crappy work. You wouldn't buy it sight-seen, and if you could take it back into a shop and return it for a full refund, I imagine you would.

But good luck getting any of that money back. I wonder if you can do any repair on that... you'd have to do a lot of cutting and reassembling.

Gah, what is with these people who think they they can call themselves pro tailmakers when all they are doing is selling what ought to be their learning tails... in fact, making learning tails and then giving them away or selling them at auction for $10+ would make more sense.

[Winged Mermaid]

After checking in with the people she still owed refunds to and finding out she never delivered on the refunds, even after getting orders for her new company, I blacklisted Finspo tails (http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?10347). Just FYI.

[introverting]

After checking in with the people she still owed refunds to and finding out she never delivered on the refunds, even after getting orders for her new company, I blacklisted Finspo tails (http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?10347). Just FYI.
Thank you so much Iona.

[Merman Arion]

After checking in with the people she still owed refunds to and finding out she never delivered on the refunds, even after getting orders for her new company, I blacklisted Finspo tails (http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?10347). Just FYI.

I honestly think you should blacklist Aurore la sirène in France. She never refunded Yulia and still do bad quality tails.

[Winged Mermaid]

I honestly think you should blacklist Aurore la sirène in France. She never refunded Yulia and still do bad quality tails.



Tailmakers are blacklisted if they take orders and do not produce tails or refunds within a year and a half (unless agreed upon by client and tail maker). A tailmaker will be removed from this list if and when they return all owed money to their customers and/or deliver the tails owed to said customers.

I only blacklist those that do the above. Yulia got a tail. A horrible tail, but she got a tail.
If we started putting people with poor-quality tails on the blacklist, or made a different list for sub-par tailmakers, it would get out of hand, QUICKLY. Believe me. Merbellas and Finfolk would end up being on there, with how people can be and how I've seen people be. That's what reviews are for. If you get a bad tail, leave a bad review. Then people can read reviews and decide for themselves.

I'm going to be working on getting ALL the tailmakers a place in the review forums. When I do so I will contact those I can and let them know there's a section for reviews where they leave one (as I did when I made review forums for the last batch I added, not everyone chose to leave them though even though they'd already written reviews elsewhere). Then there will be links to the reviews on the tailmakers page.