No. Not the adult entertainer. This is the ventral side of the dolphin tail I want, anatomically correct. Fortunately, I saw photos of a similar one done by the artist now heading up Merrowfins.Quote:
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No. Not the adult entertainer. This is the ventral side of the dolphin tail I want, anatomically correct. Fortunately, I saw photos of a similar one done by the artist now heading up Merrowfins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mermaid Momo
Her tail was anatomically correct too but with only one holeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dolphin Man
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A male dolphin has two holes, one for... well storing his maleness and the other for excretion.
But are you going to do anything with them or is it just for accuracy? I think that's the question.
I'm glad you asked. If you're going to spend a lot of money, I think, you should go all out and make the design be the best it can be. Besides going to conventions or swimming recreationally, I've thought about doing it professionally, thus the Barnum and Bailey like name "The Dolphin Man". I don't know how much calling there would be for mermen. it would be interesting to perform in a sideshow. I've been intending to practice my clicks and whistles. So, the simple answer is... it's just for accuracy. It's to fool people into thinking that's a real tail.
Oh well that's really cool!
I don't want this to come off in any way insulting, but are you concerned people MIGHT think it's a sexual thing? I'm not really getting the benefit of adding the slits it kinda seems like adding nipples to a mermaid top, or but crack on the tail or something. I just find people think this whole merfolk thing is pretty weird, and seeing something like that on someone I think many people would automatically assume it's a sexual thing. I mean honestly, if you didn't specify it, I think many of us thought that. Realism is fun and all, but we're still people in costumes and merfolk aren't real. I can't say I've ever noticed the slits on a dolphin. So I'm not sure people would make that connection. Nothing intended to offend you at all, it's your choice and your tail, but I have to admit it would make me uncomfortable if I randomly saw it out at a pool. I think men also have a much harder time being accepted as mers, and are often lumped in with predators etc when they're around kids and we know mertails draw kids.
Whatever makes you happy I guess. I'm just not really seeing the benefit. The Vagina tail made a huge amount of people uncomfortable at merfest 2 (for which I witnessed personally) and there were several complaints about it.
Yeah i second thinking about using the tail professionally or around children. This is more of a tail for a personal collection imo. But like raina said, it isn't my tail and if if's the tail of your dreams then have at it
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This has been the tail I've wanted, but it's nice to get a heads up on possible reactions. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mermaid Momo
You could always wear a decorated fish net wrap if youre going to be around kiddos?
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I've heard a lot of bad reviews on merrowfins so it's making me not want to buy a partial silicone tail from him <_< Unfortunately i'm on a budget to buy a tail, that's why I wanted to get a partial instead of a full silicone tail now but his work has so many negative review especially on customer service o.o
There have also been a lot of happy costumers but they have not posted reviews which is unfortunate. All tailmakers have good and bad qualities. Maybe you should talk to him or people who have ordered individually
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Originally Posted by Pearl01
Yes I haven't seen many positive reviews from him but thank you I will do this. I've emailed him before but only once and never got a response back but I'll start talking to more people who've gotten it from him instead c:
Check the review thread, some more were just posted
So true a lot haven't posted reviews
Omg I'm so glad someone else said it, I only just joined Mernetwork but I've been following this Mertailor thing for years and Eric seems to be a classic narcissist playing the victim with this. Also, the rape comment was incredibly disgusting, idk how he thinks that having business competition is in any way comparable to rape. I've lost any remaining hope for him to change.
^In response to Winged Mermaid's comment from 10-20-2015, 02:58 AM (#117 on this thread)
that comment is over a year old. lol so let's not worry about old drama.
For those saying there's not many reviews I think they're sitting in the queue waiting for an admin to approve them? The forum had to institute an approval process because certain tail makers used to just make loads of alt accounts and post fake positive reviews for themselves lol
Is the approval system the reason why some reviews can't be read yet but the username still appears on the side of latest post?
yes. I suspect the admins are all just busy with the holidays
Does anyone else feel like Merrowfins copies aLOT of their tail designs? I feel like every other time I see a tail from them it leaves me thinking "well that looks just like ___"
I don't see it. Can you give specific examples?
I mean, there are a few that seem unique, but other then that... take your pick. It also seems like almost all of their flukes, like 75% are based off other shops. I just feel like nearly everything they do is a remake. *shrugs* maybe It's just me? but that many flukes can't be a coincidence.
Again, I don't see it. Could you please show me comparison pictures of Merrowfins' and other shops' flukes that look so similar? As far as I could tell from what I've seen on the Merrowfins Facebook page there haven't been any remakes.
I don't really see it fluke wise either, most of their flukes aren't copies but are instead very basic stereotypical mermaid shaped. I do think however that he is obsessed with the past a bit instead of moving forward. He has made a few posts about " i actually made this not mertailor"
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Those kinds of posts I have seen. Every once in a while he'll post selfies too that are vaguely mermaiding related which are kind of a turn off for me personally. I feel like stuff like that should be on a personal page not a business one.
So, I didnt really want to take the time to do this XD but I had a little extra time on my hands so I thought why not. I'm personally most familiar with mertailors work, so I used him as my main example, but there've been a few times where I've seen a merrow tail and thought "Merbella", and theres another company I've thought of too but I can't remember.
At first it was easy enough finding some pretty interesting examples.
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And I'd even oddly find posts like...Merrow made after mertailor like "hey check me out I did this first" type things.....Then....I found these?? And now I'm waaay confused... The right column is "mertailor" and the left is "merrow"?? These pictures are posted to both pages with no mention of the other, each claiming them as their own?? Did these two like...have a bad break up or something? Cuz I'm legitimately confused now.
Regardless, I stick to my origial comment that it seems Merrow in general seems to rely too heavily on "inspiration" from other shops. Again, Mertailor is just the example I could easily pinpoint off the back, but it isn't the only one I've thought his tails resembled.
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oooh I get your confusion now, you don't know the history between the two of them. They used to be work partners and in a relationship and then broke up, Matty, the owner of Merrowfins worked on a lot of the sculpts and tails for Mertailor when they were together and as such posts the sculpts and tails he made onto the Merrowfins page also, so what you're thinking are replicas aren't replicas, it's the exact same tail. For example the adult film tail was made by the mertailor company except Matty was the one who sculpted it I believe, same with the lobster tail.
Most of the flukes that are similar are to be honest, quite blah flukes because they're basic mermaid flukes that almost every tailmaker out there has or has had before they began making their customized fluke sculpts.
So basically: Merrowfins is claiming the work they did when they were part of Mertailor which means the post the same tails Mertailor does, since Merrowfins was the sculpter for mertailor a lot of their flukes will resemble the work they did before but a lot of the flukes are very basic shapes which can be seen in other tailmaker's works too because they're basic mermaid flukes.
Glat to see im not the only one that wants to include sexual or genitalia area to the tail, i for one never planned to work with kids so i think it wont matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolphin Man
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Whatever happened to that tail anyways? They posted a dolphin tail recently but no slits in sight.
I do still wonder about the appeal of having sexual organ slits on a tail though, purely for looka or is it something more? Like a yiff or murr suit in the fur fandom? (Don't goggle image those kiddos)
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Lol i googled it [emoji23], my answer is yes ive always wanted a tail for a more "personal" type of thing ive drawn out design concepts for how i would achieve it for both males and females while still looking modest and kinda hidden by fins. But that wont happen for me until i finish my current tail project plus i wont be able to show it off as much lol cause of its sexual natureQuote:
Originally Posted by Mermaid Momo
I warned you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marinus Mortimer
See that i can see, i just can't imagine it in use outside of that purpose on a " normal" tail. To me that's like making a hole for my mergina on an everyday swim to take to my local pool tail lol. (And i bet $2 that if i had a slit there someone would attempt to insert something or touch it sexually)
If you are in the kink scene a tail like that would probably see some action. Have you seen the one mertailor/Matty made for the adult actress with rear access to her lady bits?
There was also a video of a merman with a cut away in his tail over his tush (i can't remember if they actually used the tail or if it came off though)
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Yes ur right especially if ur a female in today's society it would feel weird but in my design for boys its more like having a sleve to cover "it" and a slit to tuck it into kind of like this statue its a penis within a penis lol (WARNING, NSFW IMAGE, genitalia depicted: http://hifructose.com/2014/08/20/cam...ark-fantasies/)Quote:
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Personally i would use that tail anywhere (i dont and wont be working with kids) so by anywhere i mean beaches and or freshwaters ive always been confident nude high school lockers though me how to, plus im a guy so there will be wayyyy les pervy stuff that could possibly come my way. I think...
Also if any one was to make this functional they would need to add a support system inside like tight undies merged with the tail to keep everything aligned, but thats just me [emoji23] being technical.
Yes i was in love with that tail i thought they made it for playboy or something cause i never saw it again
That merman tail i think was used in a gay movie but i never saw the movie so i wouldn't know more.
Lol that would be considered a kink? Lmfao i didn't consider that [emoji848]
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hahaha wow....I can't believe I was right when I said "bad break up", and here I was thinking I was making a bad joke. Well someone is definitely still butt hurt about it in any case XD Merrow seems to reference mertailor at every turn, while mertailor seems to be the picture of professional.
I'd love a "sexy time tail"! Personally, I think the way our society lashes out against genitalia is ridiculous. I'd absolutely want a tail that is more anatomically correct, and I don't think theres a damn thing wrong with it. If mermaids were real, they'd NEED those area's, especially considering we tend to depict them as mammals rather then fish (Which, btw, I've never understood why we model them after fish, and not dolphins or sharks? Like not just in practice but in Media and art? It doesn't make any sense that their fluke would be horizontal but they'd have scales. Thats not how mammals work XD why doesn't art depict them with a vertical fluke if they want them to be so called "fish people". other wise Their just.... incorrect lol They're a mixture of three species instead of two which is super odd, but I digress." So why not incorporate it? It'd be a powerful statement to social norms in any case, and technically not nudity X3 so long as you're very careful where you choose to swim.
well, mermaid myths/depictions are VERY old.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMermaidQuintessence
While there are depictions of merfolk which are very different from what we are used to nowadays (tritons, nereids, ancient deities like Oannes which seem to have a vertical fluke indeed), people in the medieval ages didn't have much clue about life in the ocean (or water, for that matter).
They regarded everything living in it as fish.
(That's where terms like "jellyfish" and "whalefish" come from).
You can find old depictions of dolphins with scales and such.
And then there are a variety of merfolk like those with two webbed feet, two-tailed mermaids, and so on.
It's just the "modern" image of mermaids which is so invariable.
Blame Disney :p
That i cant agree with cause Matty is the one who did most if not all scupts for Eric so its only natural that Merrow's style reflects Mertailor's style cause its basically the same sculpterQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMermaidQuintessence
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Even though my tail is definitely fishy, in lots of my art I like to opt for more mammal or shark based mers. I don't know, I guess I figure if mers were real they would have evolved more like dolphins or such, so like all their skin the same type, no fused legs (either they'd turn to flukes and the spine would elongate or they'd have the twin tailed look)... I have put too much thought into this.Quote:
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And even if it were the most congenial break up in history, Matt has a right to claim his own work, to make it clear, and to repeat it as often as necessary as the artist. I've been following Merrowtails since its start, and I haven't even once thought he was living in the past, or doing anything unprofessional at all. I've been following many tail makers for years, new ones as they emerge, watching some fail and disappear, some thrive. He's not a stupid man, he knows how it is out there, on this forum, and in the FB mermaiding world. He knows how people talk and gossip and make judgments.
Meanwhile, the idea of Mertailor as nothing but professional is hard for some of us to swallow since this is a more recent turn of events. He's gotten a lot better recently, but he gained a horrid reputation for a reason. Not going to bring up everything about it, but anyone who's been following tail makers for long enogh or has been in the community (online and off, here or on MerYuku, which I wasn't a part of because I really disliked Yuku) is very aware of his overall, longstory rep, and also, that he's been doing better recently. Then he had his second reputation among the general public who just did not know at all what was going on in the community, for years, and the history there. I'm just glad that things seem to be improving overall when it comes to the crap that was so often going on. It's just better for the community in general that things are better, no matter who the tailmaker is.
It's gotta be tricky for Merrowtails... or anyone in a similar situation. Someone responsible for most of the a company's designs, who helped build that company, and then for whatever reason (since the reason does not really matter when it comes to breaking off and leaving the place you helped build), he started his own company doing the same type of niche market product, and to start, you have none of the reputation that former does- good or bad, people know about the one and the other has, as we have seen here, people assuming that he's copying and all sorts of other assumptions based on partial information.
No wonder the guy feels the need to reiterate time after time. The posts here and elsewhere (which I imagine are happening, since Mernetwork is but one microcosm of the mer world) questioning is authenticity are exactly why.
Anyway, I wish him happiness and success, he too is only human, and as long as he's not screwing people over, good luck to him. Good luck to anyone who makes the effort to make a good tail, stand by it, and respond with decent customer service, no matter who they are. I've heard/read nothing but glowing reviews of interactions with Matty/Merrowtails, he is really making people happy, and that's the most important thing.
Well If Merrow fins made the molds I'd argue why their flukes aren't nearly as consistent or detailed as Mertailors? Mertailor seems to be more then capable of making flukes and molds without them, where as merrowfins' flukes look kind of... messy idk. In comparison anyway. but it looks like I'm not the only one who's seen that they take a bit too much "inspiration" from other shops. I've also heard they are more then willing to remake other shops designs. Like I said, it isn't just mertailor I feel like I've seen them be a little too similar for my taste too. But really I don't care, I'm just making observations. Regardless I don't know the history, but I'll say that as someone newer in the community looking in mertailor has a much better image then merrow fins, and looks better in comparison, So I'm kind of doubting merrowfins could have made those great tails without mertailor, since their most recent work is not really all that impressive, and seems repetitive , where as Mertailor comes out with great new things often. But again, I'm not interested in being involved in drama I'm just stating my very humble opinion since I don't know much about much X3
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Now I'm not going as far as to agree they "copied" this fluke, all I'm saying is nothing they do seems to be very unique, or all that well done if they're trying to compare themselves to mertailor. I don't have any personal vendetta against merrow fins or anything XD sorry if it's coming off like that. this is just something i'venoticed time and time again when they pop up on my feed, and I've always just kind of thought ".....huh."
That is.....SO interesting.... You have really given me something to think about hahah i like everything you just saidQuote:
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