B!TC# IT OUT!

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Originally Posted by Meronica

Thank you. It alienates a lot of merfolk from Mernetwork. He does make a ton of decent tails and donates tails to Project Mermaids to support ocean conservation. I've personally been a part of it and seen them. (That's where his new silver/blue striped one and the clownfish one have gone) I'm not going to debate anyone's opinion of him, it just gets tiring seeing him referred to as "youknowwho", "he who shall not be named", etc. and makes those of us with Mertailor tails feel like we're not really welcome here on the forum.


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yeah, I wish people could also see that he does some good shit. Lotus makes a good point too, but i feel strange on this forum because I have a positive experience and I point it out. I know it's just the anxiety talking but I feel like everyone is judging me. every mer I've met in person loves my tail and I've only gotten compliments on it from everyone except a few mers on Instagram. I can't help but feel like I need a new tail from another tailmaker for some reason. The only things that I'm totally skeptical about are his tops (because dear lord ive seen some awful ones) and the fact that he has a saltwater aquarium in his shop because I'm a huge fish person and it doesn't seem like he's ready to take care of such challenging fish but who knows? I like to look at both sides, I see that he's done some horrendous work but he's also done some great things.

I honestly feel like I could be starting shit but whatever

I don't think it'll start an argument unless someone who legitimately hates him wanders in and sees it. Your points are all valid. And please, don't let anyone make you feel less of a mer for having a Mertailor tail! That's awful and completely not true.

I think Mertailor is a little bit "When he is good, he is very, very good; but when he is bad, he is horrid." A lot of people around here have gotten good tails from him; a lot have had bad experiences. There was the whole thing that the longtimers we through with how he tried to get our forums shut down because people were discussing their bad experiences. He's grown a lot over the past several years, but people are still having problems, so the old wounds keep getting reopened. I don't really get the idea that people with MT tails are excluded from the forum, though. So many people here have beautiful MT tails!

As far as his FB fan army goes, tbh, I'd rather have them scarce around here. They can be pretty rabid.

I had a pretty good experience with him. Maybe a neutral experience? I bought a tail from him, it came within the specified time frame, I was happy with it. We didn't correspond too much during the process, but this was years ago, pre dragonskin and intense customization. Sometimes I think about getting a silicone from him, the next time I get a tail. I haven't decided yet though.

I think the good from mertailor was actually Matty honestly. Especially the high profile tails, sculpts, and paint jobs

Can someone point to an actual example on MerNetwork of the community bashing someone for having a mertailor tail?? I've been here since the start and I don't see it. I see people get mad for people who have been treated bad, and I've seen people ask questions, and I've seen people celebrate with others who are happy.

Eric is the one who perpetuated the rumour his clients couldn't post here. Lol

In fact back in the day Eric made a fake account bashing himself and people told the fake account it was uncalled for lol

Raina I have to agree a bit. And another mer and I were kinda bashed on by someone because she said his tails were "the kind you don't want" and spent like an entire night trying to convince me to buy a finfolk tail because they're infinitely better. this happened the day I got my tail and I was so happy to have it. she was directly bashing it. I don't have that kind of money and I'd grow out of it immediately, otherwise I'd be all for a finfolk tail. but I'm happy with what I have.

I have 26 days or so left in the state and as much as I did not want to be here in the first place, I wish I had more time to get one specific thing done before I go back to my home state...

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Originally Posted by Aysun_the_Mermaid

I have 26 days or so left in the state and as much as I did not want to be here in the first place, I wish I had more time to get one specific thing done before I go back to my home state...

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I really want to finish your tail before you leave!!!

I feel like the community is accepting of every mer with any type of tail. Even if you have no tail at all. If you have been bashed by one person it does not mean the whole community feels the same way as that person and would exclude you. There is so much love and acceptance here! <3

At the same time though, the community tries to point people in the direction of reviews and share their knowledge so they can make an informed decision. It's heartbreaking to see someone choose mertailor, and to end up completely disappointed with their tail. Although that is not always the case.

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Originally Posted by mermaidofthelabyrinth

Raina I have to agree a bit. And another mer and I were kinda bashed on by someone because she said his tails were "the kind you don't want" and spent like an entire night trying to convince me to buy a finfolk tail because they're infinitely better. this happened the day I got my tail and I was so happy to have it. she was directly bashing it. I don't have that kind of money and I'd grow out of it immediately, otherwise I'd be all for a finfolk tail. but I'm happy with what I have.

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Who was bashing you??? Were they doing it in private?

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Originally Posted by PearlieMae

I really want to finish your tail before you leave!!!

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I know you are working very hard :)

This was more of a whine than a true "bitch"
Being in Co can be very hard for me at times...
Painfull memories overwhelming me if I am not very careful about how I structure my thoughts and actions.
It is also confusing to me for it to be in the 50s and 60s in July.

And I may have just fried the only way I have to charge my phone during the week. (No electricity)

I gotta be honest here, I used to call Eric names in the past and then, I stopped because I understood that I was more upset and frustrated about his ways of doing business rather than the guy himself. I live in France, I don't personally know Eric. I just know he's gay, dated Matt the real talented artist, has tourette and he's too egotistical to function.

I know I can be passionate when I get frustrated and angry about something. It does'nt excuse bashing nevertheless. Even if we have facts and trusthworthy reviews here to prove our concerns, it came to my understanding that it's best to focus on the positive things rather than setting fuel into fire and create drama. Today, in the "mermaids are the best" facebook group, I said my opinion about Dylan's choice going to Mertailor and then, another merman came over and barked at me and accused me of defaming him and his products. And like there weren't enough accusations, I was also called out for being "jealous". What I did next? Basically nothing. That was my cue to leave and I kept my mouth shut. There was no point to argue with that guy since he didn't even bothered to check all the facts.

The point I want to make is that despite my differences with Eric before, I never bashed someone who got a tail from him. I don't recall I did that. Correct me if I'm wrong. However, I do admit that I used to excessively point out pretty often the monofins showing through the flukes of his tails. I mean, I even did it on Bonnie's tail a long time ago when she got one and I regretted doing that because a) it was a dick move, b) it was none of my business anyway and c) she was happy with her tail and that was the most important thing.

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Originally Posted by PearlieMae

Who was bashing you??? Were they doing it in private?

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I don't like naming names but they left one comment on an old post (which has since been deleted) and then it continued in private.

Okok! I've got a couple things that have gotten under my skin lately.

First the mermaiding one, I hate that this married man at my pool who comes with his wife and teenage daughter sits there gauking at me as I put my tail on literally drooling and eventually pitching a tent in his trunks. I am there with my boyfriend and 4 kids, he is there making it awkward for everyone at the pool and uncomfortable even though I am NOT showing off much skin in my tail and top. It is repulsive and if I was his wife instead of standing there tapping her foot at him I would full out punch him out, which my boyfriend is apt to do if it happens again when he is around.

Second how everyone doesn't believe my age. When I go into my kids schools or a bar or even to get cigarettes I get carded and it always either turns into an asshole trying to dismantle my driver's license at which point I put my gun carry permit, and passport down and ask if they want to destroy all my id. Or it ends up with an "oh you looks so young I thought you were a student" which is bullshit cause I have had 4 kids go through that school in the last 7 years, or "tell jakob his little sister is her to see him" at which I reply " I have a kid that is a senior at this school and has been here 4 years now. What is wrong with you that EVERYTIME I come you call me a student or child? I have fucking gray hairs for gods sake!" Or from bartenders or cigarette stores I get "oh you'll be happy when you hit your 30s and you still get carded." To which I reply "fuck no I won't because I am approaching my 40s and I still get assholes who are younger than me thinking I am a teenager". Looking young is the biggest pain in the ass you can imagine! I have even had the woman at the DMV ask my son who was there to take his permit test if he was there as my over 18 driver for ME to take my test! I was 34!!! When I have people asking my 14 year old where his mom is and I am standing right there I have to force myself to keep from punching people out. I have 4 kids ,3 exhusbands, and I am far from a teenager. It is a curse to look like you haven't aged since you were 16! Everyone who says other wise has no clue how much it hurts when people ask if I had my 17 year old son when I was 7! I hate people who do it. Don't ask if I sleep in formaldehyde ! Don't say You started young! It is assinine and rude.

Thanks for the rant everyone. I needed that.

I feel your pain. I have the Asian antiaging curse. I'm 24 and still look like a 9th grader

Ugh, sorry Jinx. That's awful. And honestly, the fact that you do look young makes that creep at the pool even creepier. That's so uncomfortable.

Jinx, if I lived anywhere near you, I would offer to sort that guy out for you. I can kill a boner like nobody else, and I do it even better with a hammer. As for the rest, how rude and presumptuous people can be rarely fails to astound me. About getting carded, it's regulation in my company and possibly law in my state that we have to card anyone who looks like they could be under the age of 30, so there's a lot of CYOA involved, but the comments are entirely unnecessary and unprofessional. I can see where it would be frustrating for you, especially with how outright offensive some people can be.

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Originally Posted by SeaGlass Siren

I feel your pain. I have the Asian antiaging curse. I'm 24 and still look like a 9th grader

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I'm 49 but have been told I look less than 600 months old... wait... what??

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Originally Posted by Merman Arion

The point I want to make is that despite my differences with Eric before, I never bashed someone who got a tail from him. I don't recall I did that. Correct me if I'm wrong. However, I do admit that I used to excessively point out pretty often the monofins showing through the flukes of his tails. I mean, I even did it on Bonnie's tail a long time ago when she got one and I regretted doing that because a) it was a dick move, b) it was none of my business anyway and c) she was happy with her tail and that was the most important thing.

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Haha. You actually pointed out when my monofin showed through my Merbella tail too. I didn't mind though, I knew it was there, I could see it too and there wasn't much I could do about it. I just a 'damn someone else noticed' moment haha.

Fixing to be fucking 20, i got offered a kiddie menu the other day when i went with my father out to eat.
"Sir, im 20."
"Ahahahaha such a cutie this joker is!!"
Like, could a 12 year old break your arm?!? Because im fixing to!!

my bitch is that just when I was planning on buying material for my tail bit by bit (I was going to buy the neoprene I need and paint for the fluke) All of a sudden all of my school fees hit my account and now they take up my entire paycheck and if I don't pay them I won't get my financial aid. I don't mind having to wait a bit longer but I'm really disappointed because I was looking forward to trying my hand at making another tail.

I'm so sorry, Momo. I completely understand that frustration. House payments and utilities snuck up on me right when I was about to pay off my tail. It was only thanks to my mom's sweet offer to pay it off that I was able to make it. Otherwise, it may have taken another year. Anywho, you'll be a gorgeous mer! I can't wait to see your tail once it's done! :)

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Raina I have to agree a bit. And another mer and I were kinda bashed on by someone because she said his tails were "the kind you don't want" and spent like an entire night trying to convince me to buy a finfolk tail because they're infinitely better. this happened the day I got my tail and I was so happy to have it. she was directly bashing it. I don't have that kind of money and I'd grow out of it immediately, otherwise I'd be all for a finfolk tail. but I'm happy with what I have.

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was that in a thread HERE though? See, mertailor went on a whole campaign against mernetwork a few years ago, that started with the original mer yuku. Everything was to try and make people believe mernetwork was a bad hate place, so they wouldn't come here, and consequently see bad reviews with proof. lol. I know some people on FB will be stupid and judge tails, but I literally don't see anyone do it on here ever when it's someone's personal tail and anyone who even comes close to it gets knocked back something fierce from the forum as a whole. And that's regardless of the tail maker. So the whole "mernetwork hates people with eric's tails" just doesn't fly for me, especially when people can't point to a single thread where it happens in the entire history of this place.

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I don't like naming names but they left one comment on an old post (which has since been deleted) and then it continued in private.

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I'm guessing this was not on mernetwork; as mernetwork doesn't allow for deleting of posts.

^you can delete a post actually, not a thread though. And I do see the odd comment against the tails people own, but very rarely on mernetwork. Usually I see people bashing Eric and mertailor as a company, as well as people who jump to his defense. I used to be much more ready to jump on an "Eric messed up" discussion, but at this point, it's not worth my energy. I encourage people to read reviews, but I think once someone HAS a mertailor tail, people need to be quiet about their feelings about the tail. Some of them are beautiful. I don't like the style but some people do and that's 100% fine. I think we are a big community and some people are bound to make hurtful comments, but as a whole, Mernetwork is actually a much more positive place compared to when I joined. I remember vicious insults flying daily when I first joined, so in comparison everything seems a bit more mild now. But that's just me (sorry for the wall o text I'm on mobile)


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I think you can delete a post as a mod. Not a regular member can?

yeah it was on Instagram. and I do remember a bit of Eric's ridiculous drama. the brand new forum that he tried to create, the Thom drama (what the hell was that about?), some other crap. sometimes I read really old threads and I've seen some things from both him and Matt. Matt has cleaned up his act though which is nice.

I agree about MN being a more positive place now. I guess most of the mers I had the most issues with aren't as active any more or something...

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Originally Posted by Princess Kae-Leah

I agree about MN being a more positive place now. I guess most of the mers I had the most issues with aren't as active any more or something...

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That's what I was thinking. I remember when I first joined ages ago there were a few people I didn't want to talk to at all just because I was uneasy around them. It seems that the people who come on and stir up drama leave fairly quickly, though.
Also, I'm happy to see you around again! I was wondering where you were for the longest time :)

Okay Jinx, on to you. Putting your two rants together, it sounds like that sick man is itching to get off to someone he probably believes is a minor. No offense to you, but it may be a likely situation. That is disgusting as hell...

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Originally Posted by Princess Kae-Leah

I agree about MN being a more positive place now. I guess most of the mers I had the most issues with aren't as active any more or something...

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They aren't at all. I find people like that never last here. Sometimes I find it a difficult place so I just wait it out and they move on. People who are just interested in putting others down never last long in our community anymore.

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Originally Posted by Kalani

Okay Jinx, on to you. Putting your two rants together, it sounds like that sick man is itching to get off to someone he probably believes is a minor. No offense to you, but it may be a likely situation. That is disgusting as hell...

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ok usually I can find a lot to say on the subject but I'm so disgusted all I have to say is:
ew. What the fuck.

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Originally Posted by Kalani

Okay Jinx, on to you. Putting your two rants together, it sounds like that sick man is itching to get off to someone he probably believes is a minor. No offense to you, but it may be a likely situation. That is disgusting as hell...

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That's what I said! So creepy. :<

@Jinx - I would file a formal complaint with the pool's management. If this is happening to you, then it is likely that you are not the only person this man is "targeting", and someone much younger (child/teen) might not feel as though they have a right to advocate for herself.

Sorry to post this in advance, I can't think of where else to put this. It's a little personal, but I'm just so upset about this. I made an appointment with a doctor that was supposed to be a specialist in his field, I went to him specifically for that reason. Making the appointment was easy enough, the staff was courteous when handling my paperwork and explaining what I'd get charged for. Then I met the doctor. In the barely five minutes that he talked to me I told him why I was there, what had worked for me before and tried my best to describe the level of pain I dealt with constantly and that the medication he was trying to get me to take wouldn't work for me. He didn't listen to a single word I said, I had to tell him repeatedly why I couldn't take the medication, he wasn't even sure it would work on top of that. When I got upset that he wasn't listening to my concerns and expressed my desire to get better care from him, he told me that he couldn't work with me and that I needed to leave his office because I didn't "believe" in him. I managed to walk out and talked to one of the employees asking if there was anyone I could talk to about the doctors outright rude behavior and treatment towards me. There wasn't. I had to phone a friend to help calm me down I was so mad, I coudln't believe that I'd been kicked out of a doctors office for simply expressing a doubt about the procedure. The doctor didn't even try to explain, or work with me at all! He just threw me out, saying how we couldn't have a relationship because I didn't believe in his treatment. I've never met a more arrogant, condescending person who calls themselves a professional. I'm contesting the charge for the "treatment" I received while there, it wasn't even worth 10 cents.

Oh my goodness, that's awful. Some doctors have enormous egos. I bet you could at least write a review about your experience wherever his clinic is listed online. That might help a little bit. I'm glad you're contesting the charge, too. That's inexcusable. What a diva. :1

I just didn't understand that, I mean you go to a doctor for help. That was the whole point, I didn't go there to get talked down to and thrown out of the office all because i felt the treatment wasn't going to work for me, because it hadn't in the past and I wanted to know if there wasn't anything else he could do. If that was it, I would have been willing to try it again, but he didn't even give me a chance. Didn't do his job to reassure me or make me feel at ease about it. As soon as I said I didn't feel I was being helped I was told to leave.

To file a complaint about your doctor (like unprofessional conduct, incompetent practice, or licensing questions), contact your State medical board. You don't have to tolerate being treated like that! A nurse practitioner once told me "Doctors bury their mistakes".

I used to train doctors on the proper uses of certain pharmaceuticals and the egos I encountered were...pardon me...sickening. Hold his feet to the fire!

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Originally Posted by PearlieMae

To file a complaint about your doctor (like unprofessional conduct, incompetent practice, or licensing questions), contact your State medical board. You don't have to tolerate being treated like that! A nurse practitioner once told me "Doctors bury their mistakes".

I used to train doctors on the proper uses of certain pharmaceuticals and the egos I encountered were...pardon me...sickening. Hold his feet to the fire!

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I'll have to look into the state medical board for that thanks :)