Got some work done [emoji736] and i wish this plastic was longer, long enough to cover my fluke but no so i gotta work in pieces.
Pictures coming soon so stay tuned for that.
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Got some work done [emoji736] and i wish this plastic was longer, long enough to cover my fluke but no so i gotta work in pieces.
Pictures coming soon so stay tuned for that.
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Cant wait to see them! :D
In the hospital sorting out my health care plan
Cant wait to get home to keep working on the fluke ❤️[emoji817][emoji1419]
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Unfortunately one of my dorsal plaster mold broke in half because i stupidly decided to move it around im currently trying to fix the problem with more plaster ive pushed in to the crack and put a lot more on top of it to ensure that i wont crack in that same place again but what im more worried about is the inside of the mold i wouldn't want to have the crack line show up on my castings to depending on how it turns out ill have to resculpt the whore left half of my dorsal which sucks but its been a learning experience
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I had a mold Crack before...it was my clay though but I was able to sand down the Crack...you might be able to just jam some clay in that Crack in case you get one...I don't know, sorry that happened but you're right it's a great learning experience
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Aw man that sucks. :( I hope it turns out alright with this fix. It seems like you've been going through a lot of bad luck recently. I hope it turns around soon. :)
Great idea Lil by 1am ill be checking to see if it's completely dry andif there is a scar on the inside ill fill it up with clay of mix a small amount of plaster and work it into the crack the sand down any imperfections that may arise.Quote:
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Thanks Khal! Yes karma seems to be reaping some due suffering from me but ill get through it like i always do and like the reinforced plaster mold ill come out stronger in the end thanks again for the support guys!Quote:
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So the crack did show up on the inside of the mold sadly, now im thinking on weather to re-mold it or not.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b8e179c5e0.jpg
Maybe i should re-mold it because the imperfection circled in red will surely show up in silicone later on even though i doubt ill be too noticeable. For now the mold is stable ill be filling the crevices with some clay later on.
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I was very careful while removing the outline i drew for this dorsal design because i might need to re sculpt the whole thing.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1ac00fc62e.jpg
Also i took out the sculpture in one piece with minimal damage so im still contemplating the option of re-molding the dorsal but ill take some plaster expenses its almost a whole bag just for one side smh.
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Im torn between making a new mold or just going with this one???.
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Use the one you've made :) I doubt the crack would show up that much in the silicone, you could pay special attention to that area to hide it when you paint it. Believe me, people won't notice unless they look up close.
Man, don't redo it. It looks fine really, and once it's painted you won't even see it. remember fish do have imperfections even them ar't perfect.
Well i was going to keep it but it happened again i went to lift it to show my mom my recent failure and it cracked again [emoji24] ill fix it again no problem but i frear it won survive the move to our new apartment https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f77e54eab5.jpg
It was too thin in the spike area so now i know at least 3 inches at the shallower parts which are the spikes...
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Aww :( I'm sure you can find a way to fix it. When I was moulding the fluke for my tail, the tip of the fin mould broke off. I was a little irritated, but it's only small and is an easy fix. I could suggest gluing it back together although I've never tried it before though.
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Yes it's frustrating seeing as how much work and hours just crack and brake like cookies.
Ill be "gluing it back together with more plaster like i did for the first crack and reinforce the whore back area, next time ill use the metal fencing I've seen it done before and it worked in fortifying the mold, gotta get some wire mesh before fluke molding starts...
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Be careful at what metal fencing you use because when I used chicken wire in my first scale mould, the wire inside rusted because of the moisture in the plaster and it cracked in two places before I scrapped the whole thing and started over. If it's stainless steel, then it should be fine :) Just some plaster should do the trick. :)
Thanks for the advice Phoenix I hadn't thought about that!
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Aw, that sucks about the plaster cracking! That was my reservation about using it for moulding. If I use it I definitely plan on using wire on the back and then potentially even going over the wire with plaster and placing a wooden rod on top for even more securing. If you can fix the mould enough for use, I would definitely suggest casting that side of the dorsal in silicone before you move. I am afraid it wouldn't make the move if it has already broken twice :(
Yeah plaster molds are tricky, my biggest suggestion is to just make it super thick, some people use cheesecloth for reinforcement when they lift it, I found that even without it, it was quite alright and it didn't break as long as I poured a crap ton of plaster on the thing ;)
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Yes i was planing on adding even more plaster over the metal mesh or small hole fence, i am two but unfortunately i wont be buying silicone until i am ready to cast the whole thing, so I'll probably fix this one and if it does brake on the way up the hill then ill just restart that whole half from scratch thats why i saved the paper outline without damaging it so i could recreate it and stay symmetrical.Quote:
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Yes i figured ill have to use double what i thought i would need for my fluke just to make sure ill use a few pounds lolQuote:
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When I did my fins in plaster, one of my molds broke in half. My response was at the time. *uck im not doing this again, where's the glue. Making molds is so time consuming and pouring them with Silicone is even more consuming. As fins are an odd shape they can break its only natural with plaster, however my experience has told me to make the molds as thick as you can using what you have.
Now with my fuke I did I ended up using fiberglass. it worked extremely well however the negative to these are, if you make them thin they will only last for the duration of the pouring process as removing the poured object takes its toll on the cavity itself. also the CAVITY needs to be place on a level surface otherwise it will warp. Fiberglass resins are not cheap especially here in Australia but it done the job. if Made thicker they will last, so being fins are an odd shape fiberglassing could be a better option.
I did consider fiberglass ill have to keep in mind for my next project cause i already invested in all the plaster ill need got like 10 bags on stand by in my closet and 2 for dorsal molding, yes that last dorsal mold was too thin it cracked again and i decided to destroy it yes im sorry i lost my temper but ill use double the amount for the remolding stage that shall begin shortly but for now im focused on getting the fluke finished as smooth as possible as soon as posible well be moving soon to a more permanent housing not in a very good place but i grew up in a place where shootings happened regularly and dead body's were left cold on the ground at least once a month so this place is like peaceful living compared to my Island [emoji1202], but yeah i broke the malformed left dorsal mold into like 20 pieces and it served as a learning experience for measuring the strength of this plaster, and I've gotta say some parts i had to smash twice others broke easily so i think that making it very thick should counter the frailty of the material.
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Hi! This thread is so cool I've learned a lot from reading it.Quote:
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In my personal experience you can layer sheets of cheesecloth in the plaster to help keep it from breaking. I know someone already mentioned this but if the molds keep cracking, maybe it would help to layer some sheets in while it's still wet? I've used this method for some extremely fragile molds and it makes them 150% stronger.
Ill have to look into the cheesecloth technique as I've never tried it before if i can find some before i have to mold the fluke ill deff put it to practice thanks you guys for aways giving me great advice!
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Today i finally got to sit down and work on doing some detail work on my biggest size of scales ive gotta say im happy with the result
Here is a picture of my first one,
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And heres the reference picture [emoji7]
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It's looking awesome Mortimer. I highly suggest the layering cheesecloth method. You can find cheesecloth at the grocery store. Or any other kind of netting fabric would probably work.
Also for future info you don't have to start from scratch if your mold breaks. Plaster is pretty easy to work with and carve, you can glue it back together with plaster, then carve the plaster to match how it originally looked. [emoji178]
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Yes I've looked into it i actually had some of the medical type of cheese cloth but not enough to make a mold from it so ill have to pass by the supper market soon, I was going to do just that but seeing it brake so easily made me think i made it wrong form as early as when i mixed the plaster so i lost my temper and went all "HULK SMASH!"Quote:
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Hehe, sometimes we just need a moment to turn into Hulks and just vent it all out. It's plaster, is cheap, it's fun too. Plus with all the other crazy stressors in your life lately it was probably very therapeutic. [emoji178]
The year after both my parents passed our toilet creaked and we had to replace it. In the process of getting rid of the old toilet we each took turns taking a sledge hammer to it. It was great, we found it to be very therapeutic.
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Sorry to hear about ur folks. Yeah i would love to smash a couple toilets, it was therapeutic getting rid of some stress especially after seeing it crack multiple times ugh it was horrible i just had to [emoji23][emoji23]
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Judt an image update for the people who like to see the visual progression did three more but damm its so tedious to do these!
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I also plan to do a lateral line on my tail side like real fish so ill be showing y'all the scales for that soon.
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Damn those scales are magnificent :O I thought my scales took forever, I think yours might be on a whole new level haha
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Woah! Love those scales! The dimension and details are amazing!
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:swoon: awee thanks you guys that makes this whole thing worth it.Quote:
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Yes its three basic steps to get them like that first build shape second add the different sections to add dimension these could be 4 parts of three parts then add vertical lines then as horizontal lines and repeat the last step like 5 times until you get the desired detailed look that takes a while lol
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Those scales look BA. Idk if this would work with all the details you have but maybe you could make a couple plaster molds of the scales so you can press the clay into the mold and then gently peel it out. Ages ago I saw an old thread where someone used a method like that but they used a pumpkin seed not a sculpted scale.
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I actually tried that with a much simpler scale design i have made from when i started and it worked but not like what i hat in mind like 14% of the detail lines where gone and those weren't as half as detailed as these ones, but if i was to do just that with a scale that was half way finished only needing the final detail layer it could work but i already have all the scale shapes made so im kinda halfway already lol [emoji23] thanks for the great advice though.
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Bummer it didn't work out. Still, I'd pick a tedious method over a less detailed one.
I know, yes me two i be criticizing every little aspect of my work and many times find myself starting over but its been a great learning experience i wish i could have put as much skills into my early sculpts!Quote:
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The fact that you can sculpt that well is impressive let alone the fact that you have enough patience to do it, IMO.
Thanks alot Hydra that's really nice
Yessssss patience is key in this line of work lol
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