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Exciting! I spoke with her and I believe maybe in a few months I can place an order since my birthday is soon I'll have a good advantage with family member birthday money! Now I will hopefully have a tail too for when Marinus visits!
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Originally Posted by Shaylee Moon
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I do plan to actually! But im not sure I'll be able to soon. I wanted to in nov but that might not be possible. Im hoping for a miracle though!
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Yeah communication with her was great all throughout the design process she's awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaylee Moon
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Wow I really love the scales! This will be an awesome tail.
Thanks im glad you like them! [emoji847][emoji229][emoji225]Quote:
Originally Posted by merwandering
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Ill be making my leg double sometime this week and filling it with expansion spray foam i know already I've seen a few mers put too much ill do it in small batches until it's filled im also going to put a pipe through it so that i can either make a stand for it or hang them up with hooks from the ceiling well see.
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The expanding foam has a tendency to expand too much at first, then the next day, you'll find it has contracted a lot as well. Experiment with a small prototype, so you can see the coeffient of expansion and calculate from there.
Ill test it thanks PearlieMae i hadn't thought of that!
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i literally stabbed my dtd with a kitchen knife in a rage after expanding foam repeatedly ruined it. I don't know if a coefficient would have helped. That stuff is the polymer incarnation of the devil himself. Please just don't.
Im going to try once if i fail I'll consider another routQuote:
Originally Posted by merwandering
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I'm sure it will work out. I have no doubt that you, and by all means Pearlie Mae, could definitely make great things of expanding foam:) my problems with using materials have many layers, definitely one of them being my lack of both of your mantras. 'Slow' and 'test test test!!' Do not come naturally to me. I'm working on it but- it's a process, lol. Good luck!!
Yeah its definitely a matter of patience for these things i my self am not so good at it usually i just walk away for a little while to relax and not smash everything when it doesn't look how i want it to.
I made two leg duck tape dummy one for mazu and one for me i bought 4 big tape rolls so i had plenty of tape ill be getting the foam sometime this week ill also make a little dummy of my feet to experiment on first before i go for the big one im sure its about applying small amounts very small and wait at least 24 hours between applications so like PearlieMae said it can have time to shrink so i can get it right but yes test test test
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Yeah in terms of smashing everything when it doesn't work out, I mean...don't knock it til you've tried it. Lol
in seriousness you are doing an amazing piece and I look forward to seeing it come together. I love your sculpts
Aweeee thanks Merwandering that means a lot coming from an amazing artist such as your self :swoon:
Also i found this while searching the forum its a great idea for filling the leg mold and it worked great in the video i might try this foam before i try the troublesome spray foam thanks a lot for the great advice guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JJYFSCpj9s
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This is also a good way to keep the spray foam from warping the mold although he did put a bit two much at the beginning i would have worked in layers of small amounts allowing each "batch" to cure completely
https://youtu.be/UybcX1un5LM
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I have found that the foam stuff does not for some reason work well when making a body double. It tends to distort the form.
I use bubble-wrap and other packing materials to stuff my tape-double, as it's light weight.
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The liquid stuff? What happened in your experiment ? The reason im looking for a way to fill it so that it stays stiff cause on top of the leg double i will be sculpting the tail body on top if it so i need it to hold its shape under the continuous pressing and sculpting on top of it you know so if the fence post stuff is a bust ill be going back to the spray foam idea ill do it slowly allowing each batch of foam to rise and fall like dough ill also follow the bald guys instructions and get the one with the lowest expansion rate that way ill kind of have a bit more control, im doing this as an alternative to spending a butt load of money on plaster bandages to mold my legs and then the resin plus fiber glass to make the cast that for me is a whole new ball game as ive never experimented with resins before so ill try my damm hardest to make this successful if all else fails ill invest in the above... wish me luck https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...55b5e93475.jpgQuote:
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you can do exactly what you've done here but instead of using tape you use fiberglass that is activated by water. (the type they use in hospitals when you break your arm. then you can fill it with foam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marinus Mortimer
done it, works well.
Thats a great idea Trident! Ill check if the have those when i go to homedepot for the spray foam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trident True
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you may not be able to find them at home depot as they are medical, however they could be ordered online. ebay.
I found they have something similar or the same used to seal broken pipes and stuff
Not this one exactly but something like it could work?
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Ok just had a look at the brand. as it didn't state it was fiberglass. yes this will work just fine
couple of things to remember. with water activated fiberglass you usually can only use it once. meaning once air gets to it, it will harden. found this out BTW. so when you wrap your legs, wrap in ONLY one layer otherwise you won't be able to cut yourself out. cut STRAIGHT down the centre of your legs (FRONT) I find this the best way as it make it easier to seam.
line the seam up, wrap some twine around the model and tie up gently. this will keep the model from dis-forming when you are putting in your foam. I found that you only need a bit as it expands 2X the original size.
Ok [emoji1419], i was thinking that instead of closing it completely i would leave a line about one mm wide, open so that i can slip out, a good example of this is shown in the head mold video above where the guy leaves an open line down the back in order to liberate his head then seals it up after with more plaster bandages in my case it would be this fiberglass tape, i think that could work? Cause i dont trust no electric saw cutting anywhere near the family gems [emoji184] lol. And about the dis-forming of the mold ill be practicing with the foam on the tape dummy first cause im lazy if it works I'll probably keep it and store the fiberglass i get for another occasion cause all the kelp i got is my mom and she may not be so accurate especially with something like fiberglass lol.Quote:
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Thanks for the advice Trident !
One layer of fiberglass bandage is easy to cut with a pair of scissors. its up to you what you desire to do
Really? Nice then lol i figured it would me solidQuote:
Originally Posted by Trident True
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Sorry for not seeing this earlier!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaylee Moon
Yasss Shy whe will be Slaying !
Summer 2018 will be Debut...
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Thats awesome thanks for the drawing!
Guys I've begun detailing the fluke in a few weeks ill be finished! With this sculpting chapter.
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Hadn't realized how much alike my new outline matched up with my old outline used for my fluke now i wanna make the bottom more round lol...
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you can just keep on going and going until you get it to perfection..... the thing is you have to draw the line somewhere. it looks fine as it is. it's going to be interesting to watch your ideas on your extension. fortunately i will be working on mine tomorrow, funds get it the way of me completing it and LIFE.
I know if perfection is what i seek ill never finish! Yessss once i finish this sculpting chapter ill be buying the lexan for the extension because ill need to know how much ill hace to sculpt for my tail body im thinking it wont be too long of an extension just about 9-10 inches from the back of my feet to fluke base or tail end. I cant wait to see your updates bro and i know life can be a bitch sometimes but she is also rewarding to those who persevere!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trident True
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will see what happens with my extension, as there is a lot i'm thinking about.
Hope all goes well brother.Quote:
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Well theres a sight chance ill be moving soon so im multitasking with finishing my fluke sculpt and assembling and painting my fabric tail for the meet up and mermaid parade on Coney Island this June or is it June already? Who knows, any how this is the first area to me finished im extremely happy at how it turned out as it was difficult using the plastic im a big area but my ingenuity helped me out.
Heres the result...
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So beautiful :O
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Thanks Lili ❤️Quote:
Originally Posted by Lili
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Its so hard to keep a steady hand while making the long lines so i listen to Native American Flute music its very soothing.
Here's another picture but of the whole line so yall can see the imperfections that i am trying to ignore... : proceeds to pull my go-tee off my face:
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Steady progress 2hrs of work for just to sections im thinking of outlining then then going over them with the plastic to make smoother at the end i believe it will save me some time i hope... 🤞 [emoji1434] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3a8cbb4714.jpg
Also sorry not sorry for all the images lol i love documenting my progress, especially for future self reference...
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It's looking great, I like lots of pictures so keep them coming. :D No worries about photo overloading, it's a good thing when making big projects like this. I could share photos of when I sculpted a bust years ago :/ ... It's helpful for when and if you ever have to redo it, you have photo documentation of what you did to help.
As for imperfections you are trying to ignore... Only you will ever know they are there, I don't think anyone else will ever notice. It is looking beautiful!