Oh dear. I have to agree that the design does look like the concept and Eric did provide evidence...it's not looking so pretty so far I'm afraid.
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Oh dear. I have to agree that the design does look like the concept and Eric did provide evidence...it's not looking so pretty so far I'm afraid.
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Meh... This is some really crazy chum. At first I was like wait... What but now I'm starting to see (at least I think) what's going on here. Super confusing.
Not a big deal at all! Just some times have to be careful. Just don't want to see any one come at you for an accurate word usage (though we are ALL guilty of it! Truth!) about silly drama that doesn't involve anyone but those involved in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by A French Merman
I just hope that it can be handled in a professional manner on both parties by those involved. I thought that Eric was fair and respectful in his presentation of the evidence...
Where is Judge Judy when you need her?
Look at what mertailor just posted
I do, now, have to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by kharris95
The paint scheme looks exactly like the drawing.
He's got some good computer skills!! He totally fabricated that form and made it look legit, I'm impressed. Guess you'll do anything to defend your business. Good for him.
Hey Krystal. I know a lot of us are looking for some details to be ironed out before we form a proper conclusion... I guess the questions in my head right now are:
1) Was the part about the discount giving true?
2) The Mertailor claimed that the dorsal fin - the one you weren't happy- was the one you chose because of price range options. (which I completely understand, mermaiding is expensive business!) Is that true?
3) Did you, in fact, also request the free scale top and additional discounted baby tail from the Mertailor?
These might seem like tangential questions, but I just feel like a cohesive answer might help me form a better perspective right now...
I've thought so all along however I don't pay much attention to detail all that much (just kind of who I am I guess) so I thought that it was just me. :bQuote:
Originally Posted by RayeBlonde
:jawdrop: :confused: ==> :nocomment:
I don't think that she will be useful... Too scared of this upcoming drama.Quote:
Originally Posted by PearlieMae
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Krystal, could you post the original template? The one you sent him so we can see the difference?
Krystal, maybe post your reciepts and forms?
"When someone is guilty, they become aggressive when defending themselves. An innocent person will question the reasons they’re being blamed rather than become defensive. A liar will try to keep communication to a minimum when it comes to the person they’re lying to. If they must talk to this person, they will be visibly uncomfortable on most cases. Liars don’t emphasize different parts of their speech while someone who is telling the truth will accentuate the important bits of information in a story.Liars tend to speak more than necessary or change the subject immediately after lying." http://yanswersblog.com/index.php/ar...-liar-or-more/ I'm not calling the Mertailor a "liar" I'm just quoting some information about how people react to situations such as this one. He continues to make a big deal of this, while I'm just trying to get my money back. Keep in mind that I've never spoken badly of him or "slandered" his name. Yet he has said many unpleasant things about me. And has had "hate" people contact me on his behalf. I'm not going to post any of the emails we wrote back and forth, nor am I going to post my bank information for when the money was taken out. This is rediculous. I can't even believe it's gone this far. Bottom line: I ordered a tail that I didn't approve of, I never spoke badly of the tailmaker, I'm only trying to get the money back that I put in.
If you're not calling him a liar, I'm not sure why you quoted that paragraph of text.
Maybe you don't have to post anything, but the mertailor's post is very specific and looks convincing. Besides saying that he changed the form, you haven't done much to defend yourself. I think people would feel much better about your side of the story if you provided details. Sure you don't have to, but this is your reputation, and if you care about that, then you'll set the record straight.
Word of Caution about Mermaid Krystal (aka Krystal Patrick, Krystal Bernowski)
I have kept my mouth shut for over a year about my dealings with her because I am not the type of person who likes drama of any kind and usually if I deal with an unscrupulous person, I typically just ignore them and move on. But recently I have seen Krystal apparently treating others similarly to how I was treated and its really erking me everytime I see her pull the same b.s. again and again so I'm sharing this to clear the air and clear the names of others she may have dealt with and is trashing.
I first met Krystal last year when her and I decided to split a room at MerPalooza 2012. We met on the MerNetwork so I had not met her previously. We exchanged some emails and phone calls and she seemed to be a nice normal person like me so I decided to room with her, but throughout the weekend, she repeatedly tried to not pay her share for things like the rental car (which we had also decided to split) tolls on the road and other money she asked to borrow from me for drinks at a bar. On our last day, literally on the way to the airport, I finally just took her to an ATM and demanded she get the money she owed me for the weekend.
I could go into more detail about her personality and other things she did that weekend but I think that's enough of the big facts to give you a picture.
Another thing she was doing all weekend (even when people called her out on it) was telling people that she made her tail. The tail she wore was made by the Mertailor and she repainted it and modified it with some extra fins but she told everyone who asked that she made it outright. As an artist myself, this really pissed me off. Its one thing to buy custom art and modify it, but that does not make you the original creator and I think artists should be given credit where credit is due. A few people would even comment "You made that really ? It looks just like a Mertailor tail ?" and she would continue to lie over and over and assure them "No I made it completely myself" I didn't say anything at the time because I was just trying to make it through the weekend with her and we were sharing a room so I didn't want to incite her into doing worse things like stealing my stuff or something.
Flash forward a few months and there is another controversy with her about pictures of her in a Mermaid Magazine in which again she states that she makes her tails while wearing either a FishButts or Mertailor Tail in the photos for the magazine. Again, disrespecting the original artists and lying. Then it comes to light (on the MerNetwork) that she had purchased a FishButts tail, then trashed the Tail maker, repainted the tail and resold it for a hefty profit. She recently tried this again with her latex tail from Mertailor by trying to sell it for hundreds more than she bought it for after trashing the Mertailor publicly the first time. I cannot confirm if she did sell that one or not but she did make a posting about it being for sale on the MerNetwork.
At Merpalooza she told me how horrible the Mertailor was and how she tried to get a free tail from him in the past by stating that she was a 'disabled veteran'. Then she ended up purchasing one anyway and repainting/modifying it. I was very surprised after trash talking him so much, that she approached The Mertailor at the Pool Party and asked if she could try on one of his new silicone tails and I was even more shocked when Eric actually let her ! I thought this was very kind of him, especially given her history of trashing him and his work but he must not have known all the terrible things she had been saying about him so he graciously let her try on and swim in his new tail. After she swam in the tail, I asked if I could try it on as well before Eric had to take it to the convention but she kept it on the whole time until he had to leave so I never got a chance to try it on myself. I thought this was very selfish of her but typical for how she had been behaving.
After the convention, despite her behavior towards me, I still sent her numerous photos and videos I had taken of her with my camera and she never even thanked me for them. She also never apologized to me for her behavior that weekend. As for the money, this sums up her attitude/scamming: When I brought up the money she owed me that she had borrowed she stated "Well you shouldn't have lent the money to me if you didn't want me to have it" or something very similar. I just laughed in disbelief and explained that "I LENDED you money as we agreed upon, I did not GIVE you the money" and then I took her to the ATM and waited for her to get what she owed me for the weekend.
Krsytal has also in the past, taken a photo of Hannah Fraser and photoshopped her face onto the photo and used it as her profile picture on facebook. That was until I and others called her out on it, then she created a new page and the picture disappeared.
Now, presently she is trashing the Mertailor again about a silicone tail that she paid 1/2 price for after begging him for a discount. I saw the design sketch and the final tail and I think Eric did an accurate and beautiful re-creation of the design concept. Like I have heard other artists say, "We are not photo copy machines, every artist has their own little style they bring to the table" The way that Krystal is trashing Mertailor again and trying to now sell the tail for hundreds more than she paid for it is just sounding too familiar and making me wonder if this was her plan all along. Perhaps she begs tail makers for a discounted tail, then re-sells them for profit and that is her plan all along. Either way, I find her behavior very unscrupulous and I have finally broken my silence because I'm tired of seeing her lie over and over and try to hurt others.
Based on all this, I would be very cautious in doing any business with this person.
I take my time before I make charater judgements of people. I'm the type that sits back and observes behavior over an extended period of time looking for patterns.
Well I've seen enough so that's why I posted this.
Now you've all been warned. Krystal, had you actually apologized for the way you treated me last year or gee even said "Thank you" one time for everything I did, perhaps I would believe your recent compliments to me, but its clear you only reached out to me again when you wanted something from me (like how I dyed my hair and how I made my latex tail) so sorry I'm not buying it anymore.
I sincerely hope you come to terms with all this and perhaps get some counseling. I have known master manipulators and pathological liars before and your lies will always catch up to you. If you don't want to be a loner your whole life, you should really get some help for this, so people can trust you.
Best of luck
Nice personal attack "Mermaid Citrine".
I wrote this email to the Mertailor, asking to keep it between just him and I but per his response I've decided to just put it out there:"I just wanted to address your post on FB,
-What "sob story" did I give? All I did was ask that you sell me a used tail, that was the start of our conversation this year, and eventually you didn't give me that option anymore and just suggested I get a new tail. It was you who gave me the offer, not me "begging" for it.
-The initial payment did decline, but you got your money, and it wasn't in "payments" it was all done the same day. I have no idea why it took separate transactions..but that's besides the point
-I was not happy with the initial tail. I told you right away that was the wrong dorsal and asked you to put on another, you said you wouldn't. You dind't just put the one that "I could afford" on it.
-I asked you to add in "pink" but that was the only color, right away you said no. I agreed. The entire time the only colors on the tail were yellow, black and white. You know that.
-The first picture you gave me was Aug 3 of the unpainted tail, you didn't paint it for weeks later.
-I never said you were "rude" or "ungrateful" never.
-I asked for a top because the first time you sent me a tail when it was late, you sent a top. I figured you would do the same. That is all.
- You never emailed me saying you thought you were "Set up" I don't even know what that means...I guess you're saying that I knew I would sell the tail the whole time? No I wanted this tail, very badly. But it wasn't what I ordered and I dont like it. I told you I didn't like it. I only let you send it out to me so that I could repaint it myself, something you did not help me with. Once I found out it couldn't be repainted, I had no use for it.
-What companies have I purchased from? I only purchased twice from YOU. I purchased from Fishbutts, it was sent unpainted and with dog hair on it. And there was no monofin. That was resold.
-The last part "This woman is a liar. She is ungrateful. She is a very miserable person who I feel very sorry for. I will never undersell myself for a customer, never again. None of you have to believe me, but I know what I did was right. I am not the one that has to go to bed every night knowing I told lies to make myself feel like a better person."
Really? I mean really? I have not said one bad thing about you, not once. With all the troubles I've had with you and the tail(s) being late and not correct, I still stuck by your side.
I don't want this email to be posted anywhere, this is for YOU and you only to see. I am all done with this drama, it is rediculous. And for a business professional, you should not allow people to speak so badly of your customers. People calling me "cunt, twat, cow, bitch, etc...." is completely unacceptable and you should know better." I had originally wanted this to stay between him and I but after the email that he just sent me I thought I should share it.
If you ever want to sell it, I'm here! It was my birthday on Saturday and all I've been wanting for the last year and a half is a tail. Don't wanna sound like a beggar ._. I saw it on Facebook and personally I loved it. Lolol xD Sorry.... :3
:O_o: So... much... drama...
OK, so let me get this straight... You originally wanted a used tail - which automatically means not the colours you said you wanted. I'm assuming you wanted a used tail because it was more in your budget. Instead, he offers to make you your "dream tail" for a massive discount. As far as I can tell, he followed the colour template extremely well, of course adding a few of his own artistic touches - which is exactly what happens when someone else makes a tail for you... If you want your tail to be EXACTLY what you have in your mind, either you make it yourself, or you pay out the a$$ to have someone do it for you. Each tailmaker has their own style, that's kind of the point of ordering from a tailmaker.
So you listed on Ebay... for damn near the full cost of a new, not-discounted Mertailor tail. Automatically, you are making a profit off of someone elses' work (Unless you can provide screenshots of your invoices and such showing that you paid the exact price you got from selling it, though the fact that several people have said it would befit you to post these and you still haven't yet leads me to believe that if you do, they'll be photoshopped), which is WAY not cool.
You got a discount; did you think that meant he was going to put the most expensive dorsal/other fins on it?
You don't ask a vendor/artist/whatever for a free anything. EVER. This is not acceptable. I understand you got one from him before; that was HIS decision to do it the first time. You don't just ASK someone to give you free stuff. Seriously... *shakes head*
Why did you take down your review? If it was entirely truthful, and actually a review instead of just Mertailor-bashing, then it should be left up for all to see. The thing that struck me about your review, though, was the fact that you had already made up your mind before you even opened the box. You had that annoyed, pi$$ed-off voice that says "I don't like it", even though you hadn't even seen it or tried it on yet. You said several times that there were all these colours in it that you didn't want, but those are the same exact colours in the template... Though I noticed you never mentioned that pink wasn't in it in the video.
If you were wanting so badly to have a used tail, then why on earth are you so upset about this one? It looks just like the colour template, except a little more realistic and less "harsh" than the colour template is. As for not being able to re-paint Mertailor's tails: First of all, what is this magical substance that prevents you from re-painting it? Raina's Mertailor tail was repainted. Also, I would think that whatever makes you unable to repaint it (which, as I understand, involves mixing silicone and pigment, then putting it on top of the silicone tial) would also prevent it from being repaired (i.e., putting more silicone on it), which I think would be a totally ridiculous thing to do as a tailmaker. Secondly, I can totally understand Eric not wanting people re-painting his tails, for a couple of reasons. First, you can tell a Mertailor tail by its style. Any experienced mer can pick out different tail makers on sight. If someone does a sh!tty job repainting the tail, and someone else recognizes it as a Mertailor tail, well that kind of makes him look bad. Secondly, I'm sure he (just like every other tailmaker) would not be happy hearing about people who repaint their tails, then claim that they made the whole thing.
If you were planning on doing a repaint anyways... and if apparently no tailmaker can live up to your standards... then why don't you just make your own tail?
Man, I go for a swim, and when I get back, I find the excrement has come into violent contact with the rotary oscillator!
This is like mermaid junior high.
I'm going to have to break out some Fall Out Boy and Good Charlotte. Who else was big in 2003-04?
If I remember correctly, the Fishbutt you ordered from Stevi was supposed to be unpainted, Krystal. Then you proceeded to paint it yourself, then you say you're upset that it's not painted? I remember when Stevi posted that picture and said the customer requested an unpainted tail.
Honestly, I think I'm going to side mainly on Eric's side here. His evidence is very solid. It seems rather honest too. And I don't think he would go through the trouble of editing your photo of your tail. To be honest, the design looks rather spot on. I don't know if I could say I believe his story 100% but, I KNOW Eric has made a major effort to amp his business up. I really don't think he would mess up that badly after all this work he has put forward to make his business better than ever.
Here's something we're still waiting on seeing is the original template you WANTED for your tail. Where is that?
From what I've noticed with you, Krystal is that no matter what tail you buy, you never are pleased with it. It's always it's nonfunctional or all wrong. And seeing the Mertailor's response solidifies this for me. I don't know if it's that you like to complain or your ideas for your tail just keep changing but... Out of the what, three or so tails you've had none of them are what you wanted? Seems a tad improbable.
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Originally Posted by Krystal Patrick
I have seen you use the "disabled veteran" sob story on the Network before. Not that it's just a sob story but, just because you're a disabled veteran doesn't mean you're entitled to discounted and free things all the time. I respect that you are a veteran. I don't however respect people who think that because they have a disability believe they should always better special treatment. I don't know if this is the story you used that he's referring to, but again, I HAVE seen you use it before so it's my best guess.
And you got a discounted tail. A highly discounted tail that is. Honestly, for what you paid, you got a gorgeous tail which is the design you gave him. Then to ask for a top with that and a presumed discounted baby tail? Seriously? Even from Citrine's story, it sounds like you have an issue with paying for anything. I know you were looking for a top because you had a thread going that you were looking for a new top. So did you just assume since you were getting a tail you could mooch out a free top too?
I'm disappointed... I really am.
PearlieMae: That is an awesome sentence :D
Erie: I think it was also Modest Mouse and My Chemical Romance... Evanescence was still pretty big then. Actually, I like all these bands. Can we have an old-school mermaid jam? :p
Krystal, just post the reciepts and whatnot if you want to prove yourself innocent but at this point I'm really starting to think you're a scam artist. You're not showing any real proof at all. Why would several mers create this elaborate story to make you look guilty? I have to say I sat and watched as you scammed fishbutts and now Im starting to think your doing the same thing to the Mertailor. Why would he create this very crazy detailed story if its not real? How would it benifit him? Sorry but unless you have real proof Im calling bull shark on your claims.... It really upsets me you'd do this.
This is what was popular when I was in junior high: http://www.bobborst.com/popculture/t...ear/?year=1974Quote:
Originally Posted by Mermaid Erie
I'm a old.
(PS Moonlight Mermaid: Just doing my part :D )
Is the video review gone? I posted it to my Facebook wall thinking I was helping someone in need and now it's disappeared and all these stories have popped up. I went to delete it from my wall and found it's already gone. I have to say that all this information coming to light is making me rethink my stance tremendously.
She actually has a photo of the mertailor tail (unpainted) on her FB and in the comments she doesn't say she is unhappy with the layout of fins or anything like that (which I would've thought you'd do if you got a photo of your tail with incorrect fin placement), just that she's excited to get it once it's been painted.
And the tail sold apparently. $2700
When I saw the Mertailor's picture post of the tail ... I thought how absolutely beautiful. I would love to have had such a brilliant tail for that price.
I just went through my viewing history and her video was 'deleted by user'.
wooow O...O That Drama
And she only paid $1,900 for it? I almost feel like the rest of that should go to Eric...Quote:
Originally Posted by Elle
Indeed....I feel he's been jibbedQuote:
Originally Posted by Blondie
I can't find her FB? :\
Wow, mer-fight. I can just SEE the glimmering fins thrashing through the churning seawater...
Honestly, though, Krystal, this is very disappointing. You have not addressed ANY of the questions directed at you-- you've just either ignored them altogether, or flamed them as "personal attacks". Question-asking is for YOUR benefit. If you're innocent and can defend yourself, it will show. I also think it was unnecessarily snarky of you to put Mermaid Citrine's name in inverted commas. Just sayin'.
Also, not cool how you relied on the fact that some people here aren't on stellar terms with the Mertailor- to further your own (financial) cause. I hope you get someone reliable you can speak with, and get the help you need.
This is some crazy mer drama huh :/
Lol
moonlight: HOW COULD I FORGET MCR.
I need to make a middle school drama mix tape. Except I was weirdly never involved in drama except once. This one bitch yanked my hair when I was trying to walk away, and I punched her in the face. Apparently that wasn't cat-fight etiquette.
LOL Erie, we should totally make a school drama mix tape... though for me, those years were High School, haha! The most drama I have ever been in (outside of relationships, yeesh) is on these forums, actually, but that's what happens when you join forums, I suppose (hence why this is my first forum since H.S., LOL).