ohh so excited to see the tails in action ^^
btw I'm only 1.000$ away from my tail so i hope i can order by the time around december. ;)
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ohh so excited to see the tails in action ^^
btw I'm only 1.000$ away from my tail so i hope i can order by the time around december. ;)
Since everyone seems to be in attack mode, let me just clarify with this, these are two of the "mermaid" accessories she's sold in the past. And a matter of fact, I do make my own paint and paper, it's completely organic and biodegradable. Thank you :)
http://www.lowes.com/pd_35200-81562-...7C1&facetInfo=
http://www.lowes.com/pd_34163-81562-...7C1&facetInfo=
I kinda felt your comment to be attacking. I don't think anyone attacked you. Replied with their opinions and I replied with facts. But I also used it to springboard onto other issues I felt important to address. So if that came off as attacking I apologize.
Yay! :yay: Thank you for the update!Quote:
Originally Posted by AniaR
It wasn't even cuz I reminded her, it was already the plan. She had to deal with some rush orders and it gets tricky taking so many orders and gifts to the post office and not getting them mixed up. So excited for you both, can't wait to see them!Quote:
Yay! :yay: Thank you for the update!
I feel as if Phoenix Mermaid and I shall always share some kind of strange bond... Mermaids with their tails shipped at the same time. One mermaid of the Phoenix and one of the Moon and Stars... and this was a weird post and exactly why one should not do so right after waking up... <3
Anyhow, thx anyways ^-^ I bet it's pretty interesting to see her ship all those mermaid tails and accessories out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AniaR
Eeekkk! I'm so freakin excited! Awh I feel like that too! <3 We're tail buddies lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mer-Crazy
I think that sounded pretty cool though... "One mermaid of the Phoenix and one of the Moon and Stars"
Congrats ladies! Remember, we must see pics! :)
what's Raven's choice?
Oooo! Raven's choice is the option of having Raven completely design your tail. Color theme, extra fins, ect. She does it, and I think that it can be a surprise to you if you want.
I actually think it's just that - giving Raven a picture of yourself and letting her make the choice/decision for you about the colors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gem Stone
Whoops, Edit: Pheonix already answered that. :)
So happening! And videos too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariadne
@Phoenix- We shall have to meet up at some point, even though we are on opposite sides of the world! One day...
lol ^_^ One day...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mer-Crazy
Hi everyone! I haven't been around quite dome time :) (2 weeks maybe?)
I have some new pictures from one month ago but haven't got the time to upload and/or editing them :p
Here's one of me and my nephew taking most of the pictures :D haha
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps2d04eb14.jpg
@ Raina: Any news when my Ariel top and Glue is going to be send? Otherwise I'll send out an email :) It's been a few weeks scince Raven said it was nearly finished ^^
Wow... uhm... I've been gone for a while. XD
I'm rapidly approaching my 120 day mark! The excitement is there, but not in full force. I haven't heard much from Raven regarding my tail, so I'm still in the dark. I know she's super busy right now, so I'm being a good fish and staying patient. :3 When I get to see pictures, you guys will definitely know!
Congrats girls on your tails shipping out! I, too, can't wait to see pictures and videos! It's all so very exciting!
As for the small but of drama that surfaced, my two clams is that artists come in different forms. Some make all of their materials, some are ingenuitive and are able to use materials they have found to make beautiful pieces of art. I know Raina said that Raven makes the "moulding" you mentioned, but even of she didn't, the girl was resourceful.
You can't expect every artist to make their medium. I'm an artist as well. I don't make my paper, brushes, pencils, etc. I can't. I don't know how and I don't have the money or resources to do so. I can't make the seashells I use for clips, but I can arrange them artistically and embellish them with other items I have purchased. Also, how can you expect a sculptor to make their own marble? Or a blacksmith make their own base metal? Or a wood carver to make their own wood? It just doesn't always work that way.
So, if you don't like her stuff, don't buy it, but please judge when you have facts from a reliable source.
/end rant
(Sorry, I kinda had more to say than I thought... Ehehe ^-^;;)
Please excuse me if I am completely clueless about this, but...
I was talking to Raven just yesterday about ordering a top, but now her shop on Etsy has disappeared, and I cannot see the listing or send messages. Anyone know what this is about, or any other way I can reach her? I tried messaging her on Facebook.
She's been super busy with rush orders, so yeah I'd send a friendly email reminder. She's trying hard to get everything organized and shipped out before the big move :)Quote:
@ Raina: Any news when my Ariel top and Glue is going to be send? Otherwise I'll send out an email :) It's been a few weeks scince Raven said it was nearly finished ^^
She's had a problem with her etsy going down before :( I'll let her know!Quote:
I was talking to Raven just yesterday about ordering a top, but now her shop on Etsy has disappeared, and I cannot see the listing or send messages. Anyone know what this is about, or any other way I can reach her? I tried messaging her on Facebook.
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Originally Posted by Abyssalmer
so what if she did....no one is telling you "hey! BUY THIS AND BUY IT NOW!!!!! She makes pretty much everything else (that is made from silicone) from scratch. I don't think anyone else is that critical. Those tops look amazing regardless. And if you feel that because of her using a decorative piece of molding she is a terrible human being then I really think that's your problem and something the rest of us don't need to hear about.
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
BTW guess what! she doesn't tie the netting by herself or craft sea shells or plastic plants. She gets them from a craft store! **GASP** SHOCK HORROR!!!!!!:jawdrop:
:lol:
Raina,
Thank you so much! I sent her the "ideal" message suggested in the FAQ of her Facebook page, since I didn't know if she would remember me. I'll just wait for a response, I guess. I am in no hurry anyway.
I did not know she was moving, so I get that she will be busy - I do not come here as often as I should, I have to remedy that...
it's always weird how people pin Raven against everyone too. Like I don't see anyone else going "finfolk vs mertailor!" or something you know?
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The thing about right now is Raven is busy but so am I >.> lol. I usually get through all the messages and I am just too worn out to stay on top at the moment =( sorry folks!
For a tailmaker that seems to be pretty consistent in making her clients happy, it is REALLY strange that she gets dragged into stuff. I mean, it seems like because she DOES do so well, and on so large a scale, that other tailmakers need to create fake drama to detract from the fact she makes a good product and tries to the best of her ability to provide good customer service.
I mean, all the other tailmakers that get drama over their product actually created the drama by themselves (neoprin and Alex Plus from the Mertailor, continually taking orders and never producing products or refunds from FishButts and Adam Martyn are the first three things that come to mind)... But it doesn't seem like Raven's done anything like that at all.
I find it hard not to get defensive for her, just because I see how hard she works. She does things other tail makers that are at her level dont. If a customer doesnt like something about a tail she changes it, if something happens that's the customer's fault she STILL fixes it, she even gives free presents, gives full refunds even after the tail has been created. It gets under my skin, because I feel like people are just waiting for her to drop the ball and it puts too much pressure on a person to be perfect all the time. But then they'll complain she's not fast enough :( Raven gets complaints like every other tail maker does (if they tell you they don't, they're lying, I've read and been told bad reviews for every major tail maker) I think the difference is she does everything humanly possible to make the customer happy in the end. Personally, I think she needs to put some boundaries down with people. Too many people wreck their tails out of their own ignorance or sometimes even laziness, and expect her to fix it. They have the wrong expectations of what you can do in a tail and how long it should last and wear and tear (that's why I made that thread a while back for what to expect with your first tail purchase). I also get upset when people message her constantly and get rude and demanding, when it says right on her page she's in the process of moving and changing the tails and lowering the price so she's not taking any orders. if people can't be bothered to follow the very bare rules she's set out for ordering, I don't think she should respond to them at all. But she's awesome, and tries to do it all for everyone all the time. :p
Ugh I could rant forever. I try not to get too defensive of her, and let her work speak for itself because it really does. But man, the demands of the mercommunity in general are kind of crazy lol
I don't think it sounds defensive... I mean, defensive (at least how I learned the word) always had a negative connotation to it.. Like, you politely point out a valid flaw with someone and then they can't handle it, so they get defensive... You know? All the flaws people point out with Raven seem minuscule compared to some of the other problems people have had with other tailmakers.
I mean, wait times... Seriously,.... THAT'S people's problem? They should try working with silicone. I live in Southern California, where the weather SHOULD be ideal for it (not too humid, not too arid, not too hot, not too cold, etc.) and I STILL have problems with it.... There's STILL days I can't work with stuff like I want to. I mean, honestly, silicone takes forever to cure, and depending on how many molds she has to work with, plus the weather, plus REPLACING molds (which has to unfortunately be done too) plus rush orders.... (I don't even think there should be a "rush order" option, honestly, because I feel like that's just entitlement from people with unrealistic expectations as it is, but look, she's nice enough to offer it! Sheesh.)
You know something too that bothered me... I watched her get to 10,000 likes, and when she thanked everyone, the most frequent theme of comment underneath it was "So how about that free tail you were mentioning?"
Like, seriously? **sigh** I dunno, maybe I'M getting defensive over her too, lol. But I see all the work she puts into her things, and as a craftsperson myself who works with the same materials, I really empathize with her.... And to see people kind of behave with no civility towards someone who works VERY hard to give them their dream piece... Just not cool I guess.
she still wants to do the free tail too, but she has paying customers and rush orders that take priority. :/
My experience with Raven's tails has been great! I love my tail :) I'm going to do a review soon as I get my tail back from her! It was a bit short and she said she could add to the top which I am extremely grateful for! I have nothing but positive things to say about my experience :)
Sounds reasonable to me.... That free tail has to be paid for somehow!
Yeah, I noticed that trend, too, Anahita. I made sure to post something sweet for her.Quote:
You know something too that bothered me... I watched her get to 10,000 likes, and when she thanked everyone, the most frequent theme of comment underneath it was "So how about that free tail you were mentioning?"
Now I'm feeling bad for even asking, (even if I congratulated her too) :$Quote:
Originally Posted by Anahita
You know the problem is , that she said it and people (myself included) are now expecting her to really do what she said. (hope that makes sense, ohh my bad english...)
I totally get your point too, and i agree with you, you know?
If I were the lucky one with the "free tail" I still would pay her everything I saved for my tail (about 2 000 $), because her art is just to wonderful to just being made for free...
I'm just going to add my little voice here.
Raven has been very kind to me personally. Maybe some of you know my dorsal tore and was coming off and we discussed fixing it when I thought I was going down to merpalooza but that didn't happen. I ended up taking the dorsal off because I was doing a birthday party and I didn't want the kiddies to rip it off and do more damage. I just recently went to a meet up and we did a video where you could see that I no longer have a dorsal. Raven messaged me from her personal facebook to discuss details of how it happen, making sure the whole tail wouldn't do that, and ensuring me that this is not the norm. I was a little ticked when the dorsal started coming off but I've learned to just deal with things until they can be taken care of. If any one asked me what happened, such as kids, I tell them I was swimming too close to a boat and got hit by the prop (like a manatee). But even with that story Raven wants to fix it so in October when I get surgery I'm sending it down to get fixed up. She was very insistent that she fix it whether adding the dorsal back on or fixing the scales and repainting it. Every one is entitled to their own opinion which seems to be the trend topic these days so I for one have really enjoyed my experience with Raven and support her as my tail maker and will continue to support her.
It all comes down to this 'me first' attitude and people's expectations for instant gratification. One of my cousins learned about mernaiding not long ago, and she's been one of those asking for silicone tails for free. Not anymore after I found out.
Thanks to technology, people can be like 'oh, I want that thing', and three clicks later it's on its way. They don't realize, let alone appreciate, the time and effort that goes into making these tails. Silicone is expensive and tricky, not to mention how hard Raven works to create the painted designs her customers want. Tails don't come off an assembly line, that's REAL craftsmanship. It takes time and effort.
I've got a jar of spare change, and that's the sum of my tail fund. But I'm willing to wait as long as it takes to save up for one of Raven's tails, because I know she will make it worth every cent.
HAIL TO RAVEN :D
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I love Raven's work but I doubt I'll buy from her again anytime soon. I just felt so... Ignored buying a set of the bracers that, even with the PM's I sent regarding the messages and the colors they still turned out huge on me and the wrong colors.
Not trying to be a wet blanket, her work is amazing. But I ended up selling the bracers to my friend because Raven wanted me to ship them back to her (I'm in Canada, shipping would have been 20+) and it wasn't worth it when that's almost half the price of the bracers to begin with.
I'll admire her work from afar. ^^
Aww, I'm sorry. I had the same issues with my pair but I returned them and had them replaced for nothing but shipping. ):
shipping to Canada really... really... sucks. I hear you on that one moongazer. :(
ehm, did I miss something? what's all the drama with Raven about?:confused:
someone came in and made comments about her that stirred the hornets nest so-to-speakQuote:
Originally Posted by Ariel Starfish
someone made a fake account for the purpose of bashing others basically :p
What the? That's just stupid! -_-' :/