http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...mr-granderson/
This pretty much sums up my feelings about all your racial points
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...s-injured.html
Also here is a link showing a different side of what happened that day.
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http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...mr-granderson/
This pretty much sums up my feelings about all your racial points
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...s-injured.html
Also here is a link showing a different side of what happened that day.
Well just saying, how can you even provide any actual evidence of what you know to be fact? Your sources and pictures are just as unreliable as anything else on the internet. Unless you are actually there and not "3 hours away" then you have just as much information as everyone else on the net.
Al Jazeera, an unbiased, well-respected news source was shot at during all of this.
Regardless if the original victim was innocent or not, people's rights are being completely thrown out the window.
Honestly, what authority do you, a 14 year old girl,have over the hundreds of primary sources coming from adults who are actually there?
I agree that it's a racial issue, but like I said, you have no authority to speak about it other than being a person with an opinion.
There is a time and place for vengeance and retribution and this may be the place. My problem is the citizens attach each other instead of the police causing the race war. Why fire bomb your place of work or turn over your neighbors cars when the police are out of control, The police don't care or have any interest in your property or that business.. If your going to fight back - fight back.
There were incidences in the past where corrupted police departments were taken by force by citizens where they hadn't any trustworthy government to go to.
This sure seem like a odd place for such conversation. It's got to be said though.
As I have said countless times NONE OF US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. And excuse me? Do not ever attack me like that for being "a 14 year old girl" and assuming that I am some racist pig who has no idea what I'm talking about. Just because i am younger does not mean I am stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by girlprince
I'm not saying every police officer in ferguson is corrupt. But some are. My dads a cop I almost always take Their sides. But there are eye witness reports of them firing at peaceful protesters, gassing people for recording them, and every single eyewitness report I have heard has said that there were no more than 20 looters in a crowd of over 200. People are calling the ferguson police department and being met with mocking, sarcastic replies or are just being hung up on. There is no reason that news helicopters should not be allowed to fly over the area. I'm not saying all the protestors are guiltless, but MANY of them are and they are being racially targeted by police. The "feral" comment was by the wife if the chief of police. She said that black people are feral, they murder their unborn children, they murder each other etc. So they aren't victims. Basically she called black people animals and barbaric on a public forum. There WERE news vans in the city until they were all ordered to leave under threat if arrest which is illegal by the way, and more recent reports are saying that police officers have taken off their name tags. Also not allowed. Now as a cops daughter, I know that there are probably plenty of decent police officers in ferguson. And this is the important part: But unfortunately the few who are racist, subhuman
cretins are not being stopped when it comes to their violence and brutality. This is because they are using the looting as an excuse to oppress and potentially kill black people just for being there. As far as the original case, there's a lot that points to the police officer being in the wrong. He is the only one who changes his story and he is the only one who says anything about him stealing or about him threatening. I understand that debates like this rapidly turn into an us vs them, but poc aren't turning against white people, they're turning against oppressors. And I know that I may not really know what's going on in ferguson, but from what I'm hearing, we all need to stand with the citizens. We have to make sure that the police response isn't far too excessive for the threat. That's police brutality
I did you the solid by editing out the implication that you were racist but then you saw it before I editted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishiko
I got the idea that you might be a lil bit racist when you linked to an article that was clearly racist and was supported by racists down in the comments section in response to a black person's comment of solidarity.
To be honest with you, I don't really post in these forums a lot but I can't help but cringe when I see stuff like this going on which is why i even posted in first place.
Never did I imply you were stupid because of you're age. My implication was that you're not a legal adult and don't know enough about things yet -- you're young, which means you have plenty of room to learn. And it's good because you're thinking about stuff like this. But I always think that kids should look at both sides of the issue and observe rather than say anything.
I don't really feel like going further than what's already said -- we're going to have different opinions regardless, but my point still stands: there are hundreds of live accounts from people actually at the protest, uploading pictures and videos vs what you're hearing as an out-of-towner. This is probably gonna be my last post on the issue because the last thing I need in my life right now is unnecessary drama.
I don't have any other way to say this so i'm just going to put this out there. excuse me if i sound like a Neanderthal.
Police brutality = bad.
Police killing an unarmed kid = bad.
Looting = bad.
Peaceful protests = good.
police not abiding by laws = fucking messed up. what happened to serve and protect?
police abiding by laws and doing what they're supposed to = good.
People claiming to be peaceful protesters but end up doing the complete opposite = bad.
Racism = bad.
Randomly throwing tear gas at people and claiming to be protecting and controlling the situation = bad.
killing people= bad.
in short: this entire situation is bad. clearly nothing good is coming from this. both sides do not benefit.
it's true no one really knows what happened. but the fact of the matter is the officer attacked an unarmed person. murder is still murder.
Well said :thumbs-up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaGlass Siren
I wish the forum had a "like" or up vote option because everything draggersprez said was on point as usual.
People bitching about something after doing the exact same thing.
^ I am guilty of this.
Some people just can't admit they were wrong and let it go.
Family frustrations over stupid things! So this all happened a few months ago and I haven't been able to let my frustrations on this out, and this seemed like the best place to do it.
My grandmother thinks she is dying so she keeps adjusting her will. She has dementia according to one doctor, I do not live near by so I basically just hear things from her and my mother who I talk to frequently. Well she kept asking me what I wanted from her estate, money, property, whatever, I don't want anything I told her I don't want anything I told my mom I don't want anything and frankly it makes me uncomfortable that she asks. My mother and paternal grandmother have NEVER gotten along! That is an understatement, but my grandmother told me she set up a college fund for my daughter which I appreciate, and was nice of her because I'm saving money for my daughters college fund but it is very slow. So I thanked her immensely and was done with it. My dad started claiming I'm trying to take his inheritance, which I wouldn't because I feel a loyalty to my family despite all the problems I have had with them, going into foster care and such. He said I'm on the phone with my grandmother so much because I want to get things out of her. Which is wrong and he knows it is because they listen to all of her phone calls, they claim its so she wont be scammed by people any more apparently there was an incident with her ordering a hundred pounds of frozen stakes lol. I still don't feel they should listen to her calls since she deserves privacy she is a person with legal rights after all! They discovered they couldn't keep an eye on her all the time so they had my sister move in with her to help her around the house. Turned out my sister talked my grandmother into giving her 10k in cash that she used for drugs immediately, then tried taking her back to the same bank the next day to get all of her jewelry!, and was trying to change her will so that everything went to my sister instead of equally between her and my parents, as well as trying to take my daughters college fund! Well that was stopped and she was kicked out but my poor grandma kept calling me asking me what happened why my sister wont talk to her anymore and I don't know what to say! Everyday it was like she forgot and calls me asking me why. Some days I told her the truth, some days I just told her I don't know. And now they are moved my grandma to a home where she has no phone in her room so I only get to talk to her when my dad visits her and lets her use his cell phone. I am so frustrated over this, before my grandmother and I never got along she was always mean and rude so I would ignore and avoid her, but when she was diagnosed with dementia she changed completely and it was like we were finally getting to know each other for the first time. I have a hard time talking to people in person and on the phone, especially people I don't know, so as you can imagine I don't really make friends. The only people I get to talk to all day are her and my mom. Now that she's unable to talk to me I feel a real loss I miss her a lot and I never know if she's ok I have to ask my mom for information on her well being. Which never goes over well. I am just so upset about this whole situation she at one time told me that my parents and sister actually went around her house with sticky notes putting their names on the things they wanted! I know my dad cares about her but that is not how you treat someone and I live too far away to put an end to it. I honestly don't know what to do my husband keeps telling me it doesn't matter because she was really mean to us until she got her diagnosis and to just let my family do what they want, but I honestly feel she has changed and I want to help but have no way of going there to actually do something about it, but even then I am afraid that nothing I say or do would matter. I hope she likes it better in the retirement home, but I would like to talk to her more often, to make sure shes okay. I'm just sick over the whole thing.
End of rant on family problems.
Hey Drucilla, this probably really belongs in the bitch it out thread - it's not drama! :)
Just going to link this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment...ort=confidence
Obviously it's reddit so you should take it with a grain of salt, and also the comments about that comment are pretty contrary:
http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comme...ort=confidence
No one really seems to agree. I do think those of us outside the state/country don't really have the place to comment with any certainty.
Yea, sorry, I didn't feel comfortable posting it there since someone just recently made a post about me on there, and since it's been a drucilla hate marathon on this site today I felt this page would be more out of the way so they can post all their hate mail on the other one.
Drucilla people criticizing your post isn't hate. People just disagreed with you. I feel like you're continuing to escalate it and now blown it out of proportion. Have you seen how often catluna and I actually argue? LOL or Pearlie and I disagree? But we don't hate each other. Its just the internet. No one hates you or is hating on you.
I'm still being talked about on the other thread despite my apology for unintentionally offending people and for making people feel I judged them, someone even made a post that I know was directed towards me in the b-it-out thread. Yet I have received no apology from anyone that was judging me and actually trying to offend me. I did use a couple words that were judgmental towards one person but words were thrown at me too that were extremely judgmental as well. It's still going on even though I tried to ignore it, so it's being escalated continually. That post on the b-it-out thread is proof of that.
I understand that you have been through this a few times but I haven't and I don't have the social skills to understand how to make it stop.
Did it have your name on it? Believe it or not I do have other things going on that have nothing to do with you.
To make it stop you need to stop. If you feel you're being attacked take it to a mod. You'll notice from time stamps multiple posts went up the same time you were posting your apology and two of us ( teiri and I ) even made note that we didn't get to see your last few posts ( until after) because you put them up while we were responding to the initial post that instigated everything.
If you both just ignore each other everything will stop. And if you stop escalating it'll stop.
I understand first hand how frustrating it can be when you feel like people misjudge you or aren't understanding your point. It is a chip I get in my shoulder that really upsets me when I feel people are misjudging me me. But I have learned and I'm passing on to you: if you don't let it go and walk away you dig yourself a bigger hole and upset yourself enough it bothers you in real life. And at the end of the day no internet post or person you don't actually knows opinion of you... Just doesn't matter enough. People get in disagreements and arguments on here everyday in one thread and then congratulate each other in another. I think you hurt each other with words and it is very clear that because of the severity neither one is interested in resolving.
There's a guy on this forum who constantly accuses me of lying about something a few years ago. It used to drive me crazy because I provided enough proof to show I wasn't but members didn't really pay attention. Because there are new members now loads of people will see his remarks about me buy have no context. I felt like most of the posts he made in threads I was in were trolling me. It drove me nuts and all I wanted to do was argue him. By after some time I realized it wasn't worth it and in the end I can't control what every person on here thinks of me. I had to just put him on my ignore list and just trust that most people would still like me despite what he says, and cut my losses over people who believe him and still think I'm a liar.
This is what I think you have to do. Stop worrying about re clarifying yourself over and over or making your point. There's nothing else constructive to add it's just fighting at this point. So big breath. Walk away.come back and post in other threads. Put the person on your ignore list if you find them instigating.
We've disagreed? I thought you just hated me. :phew:Quote:
Originally Posted by AniaR
Drucilla, I am truly sorry for what is going on with your family. I know what you are going through and if I could offer helpful advice, I would, but the only thing I could do in the same situation was wait it all out and let everyone else in the situation fight it out. It's not pretty, everyone gets hurt, and in the end, it's just stuff and you lose a family member...and possibly relationships with other family members. Stay strong and remember to breathe. :hug: