I do not count her a really evil because at the end she is an environmentalist who tries to do the right thing but the wrong way.
Not to start an argument or anything, but in the one Batman movie that had Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze, she was a killer. Admittedly, I did not read all the comics.
But no matter, wherever you get your knowledge from, one thing we can agree on is that Batman still needed to catch her and put her in jail.
I'm not really into the whole "superhero" culture- too 'murican, I guess-, but that movie was utter trash in every possible way.
And even if it didn't present PI the way it should have, she did have a very good point. Humans are destroying the planet.
If they were removed, it would be a huge gain for everyone else.
Of course, humans disagree, no surprise there
Back to the ocean question though, what if she can only control true plants? I think I read somewhere that kelp isn't technically a plant, but she could control the seagrass growing around it so what if she had to make a balance while only controlling half of what she's used to?
Of course, maybe she could control anything that photosynthesizes, in which case she could make a huge algae slime monster and put the zooxa back in the coral!
Last edited by Ella Pearl; 07-25-2020 at 08:57 PM.
Okay, I'm procrastinating my homework so I'm going to be completely ridiculous here, I apologize in advance.
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Most of what we call kelp falls into three categories; green, brown, and red algae. This chart puts green and red algae in the purple box with plants, so if Poison Ivy were able to control anything aside from true plants, it would be them. The giant kelp that makes up kelp forests, though, is brown algae (at least in my area), and that's up in the orange box, where dinoflagellates are too (which would include the zooxa that give coral animals color and food).
So far this looks like it belongs in the marine biology forum BUT the context here is still finding the extent of Ivy's powers. I've never read the comics but I think I saw a panel where she grew mushrooms once, so her control isn't completely limited to the purple box. And (according to my first google result lol) mushrooms don't photosynthesize, but DO have a cell wall, so if cell walls are the deciding factor then she CAN control kelp.
Of course it could also be something really simple like controlling anything that grows out of the ground, but even that throws kelp into debate because they don't really have roots? Would a holdfast count for superpowers idk.
The mushroom panel might've been fanart though, and if she can't control those then I'm guessing she can either A) control only true plants or B) control anything with a chloroplast. I'm not sure even Ivy herself knows where on these fuzzy lines she lands, that would be a fun topic for a comic to explore.
TL: DR I have no idea whether Poison Ivy would be an effective personal lake plants mover, but it makes a good brain teaser as long as she's not trying to, you know, kill ya.
Last edited by Ella Pearl; 07-25-2020 at 09:40 PM. Reason: needed a TL:DR
ah, marine biology^^
but I'm willing to bet the writers (?) making her grow mushrooms was simply due to the fact they didn't know mushrooms aren't categorized as plants
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I don't think Poison Ivy is trying to do the right thing, nor does trying to do the right thing mean they are not evil. Many of the things we count among the most evil things ever done were done in the name good. Evil is not just the the intention, nor the intended end, but also the action taken.
Poison Ivy is a caricature of a revolutionnary eco activist so of course she is doing the right thing, the authors just had a conservative view so they made her "bad guy" a straw ecofeminist going to ludricous lenghts but the most recent versions she has more and more anti hero moment i would not be surprised if she became a hero soon in some version. She is a prime exemple of why i usually side with the vilains anyway most of them have a point about our society and are depicted as mean for that lately i think.
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