HELP w/ Piracy, copycats and Fake tails at the Brazilian Pod

[H-SAMA]

Hi guys. I usually don't post much here and sorry if it's on the wrong area but we don't know what to do anymore to combat piracy.
HELP US!!

Aliexpress is selling fake tails again and because of our economy the Brazilian mermaids all want to buy the fake tails.

We've been explaining and erasing the posts offering the fake tails but
honestly we cannot block every single person in Brazil and even if we do, they might buy themselves at aliexpress.

It's not a new problem here that the Chinese are copying the pictures of Finfolk, Finfun, Mertailor and others.

But I'd like to know how to deal with it. IDEAS?
How did you guys solve the problem before?
How to talk to the young ones that are attacked to cheap prices?
Can you help us report the fake products at aliexpress? (maybe if we cut the source..)


PLUS;
we also had a painter recreating in a very realistic way finfolk's tail of mermaid syrena. How to deal with realistic works of art that recreate tails? Art? Piracy? Idk really and our moderators have mixed feelings... HELP

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[Marinus Mortimer]

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[AniaR]

unfortunately all you can do is point out why it's better to go with the originals. it's becoming a bigger issue as mermaiding blows up. it sucks, I know.

[H-SAMA]

Hi, thank you for the reply Raina. Can you be more specific?
Should we keep erasing the posts? Just talk and try to explain why the originals are better?
Block Sellers? Don't block them? Report at ali? don't report...?

We're lost here merpeople, anything will help!
thank you very much!

[AniaR]

I mean none of that will stop it. Finfolk's designs will stop getting stolen once they take measures that other tail makers have taken to prevent them from being printed out, such as watermarks across the tail, not taking straight on photos etc

[Mermaid Clarity]

Since the onus is unfortunately only on Finfolk to copyright their designs and press charges, you're stuck fighting the very small ground battle. I'm sorry.

Merman Mortimer, I see you and your intense lack of empathy for people who are having their livelihoods stolen have resurfaced. Perhaps you can try being constructive instead of quoting movies next time someone needs help?


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Since the onus is unfortunately only on Finfolk to copyright their designs and press charges, you're stuck fighting the very small ground battle. I'm sorry.

Merman Mortimer, I see you and your intense lack of empathy for people who are having their livelihoods stolen have resurfaced. Perhaps you can try being constructive instead of quoting movies next time someone needs help?


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Selkish we went though this before and everyone already knows that nothing can be done unless like Raina said Finfolk takes proper measures to avoid this by water marking on top of their product and not taking straight on shots of the tails, Im sure The Sisters know this by know they're not amateurs so the fact that they still havent taken the proper measures to stop this they two are partly to blame, if a bank leaves the doors open and security off i would rob that bank, that's basically what Finfolk has done...




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[Mermaid Clarity]

Selkish we went though this before and everyone already knows that nothing can be done unless like Raina said Finfolk takes proper measures to avoid this by water marking on top of their product and not taking straight on shots of the tails, Im sure The Sisters know this by know they're not amateurs so the fact that they still havent taken the proper measures to stop this they two are partly to blame, if a bank leaves the doors open and security off i would rob that bank, that's basically what Finfolk has done...




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However you feel about robbing banks and taking property from other people, it doesn't make your responses constructive on any of the forums that have involved piracy beyond blaming the victims. Not to mention, it comes off kind of incredibly rude and smug. I've seen you do this twice now, hence calling you out.


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[Ashton]

Hey Marinus- I see that you are trying to help and possible explain things, but your execution on doing so coming off as rude. I think you are trying to play the devils advocate, and defend the people who are stealing images that are not theirs and printing them on fabric. The fact is that you are not Finfolk and are not aware of what they are doing on their side with this issue. So please REEL it in.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Im not defending no one i simply don't see anything wrong with the fact that they stole those pictures, plus its great promotion for them, i have peen told i sound rude its never my intention so yeah whatever piracy is always happening to everyone that makes anything im not saying its a good thing but i don't see it as a bad thing either. There are worse things happening everyday and no one bats an eye so don't preach online justice at me cause that wont make a difference and Finfolk products will continue to be taken untill they do something about it...


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Also lets not have the same argument all over again please.

[Mermaid Clarity]

Im not defending no one i simply don't see anything wrong with the fact that they stole those pictures, plus its great promotion for them, i have peen told i sound rude its never my intention so yeah whatever piracy is always happening to everyone that makes anything im not saying its a good thing but i don't see it as a bad thing either. There are worse things happening everyday and no one bats an eye so don't preach online justice at me cause that wont make a difference and Finfolk products will continue to be taken untill they do something about it...


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This is exactly what you said the last thread. We're telling you to learn from the last time you were called out on this and keep the "tough nuts" talk to yourself because it's rude and not constructive. And low key, you used a metaphor commonly used to shame rape victims in your attempt to tell us all how little you personally care about the problem at hand.

Take the note. Or we can keep explaining I to you.


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[Ashton]

On Mernetwork and most of the world it is seen as BAD to STEAL.
And when it comes to ART being taken from the original user/creator, it is considered STEALING when the person takes it and does not give credit to the original creator.

Breaking it down:

Stealing=Bad
Taking art with out crediting the original creator = stealing = bad

[Marinus Mortimer]

1. "Though nuts" i haven't disrespected you so please don't disrespect me. None of this is constructive talking about it wont change a thing.
2. I don't know what metaphor your referring to but Not that is your business i my self an a victim of child rape so i would never "low key" so don't infer anything without knowing anything about me first.
3. I don't care about the robbery of designs or art.
4. You shouldn't waste your time. You can teach a blind man how to see the light.


Again if you saw what my opinions were last time why argue about it again???
I shall quote another movie...

Take the note"

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[Mermaid Clarity]

3. I don't care about the robbery of designs or art.
4. You shouldn't waste your time. You can teach a blind man how to see the light.

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Cool, then you should have no business commenting on a forum about art theft.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Cool, then you should have no business commenting on a forum about art theft.


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I can comment and say whatever i want, why do you continue to fight i have no intention to argue with you period.


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[Mermaid Clarity]

I can comment and say whatever i want, why do you continue to fight i have no intention to argue with you period.


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Because you might learn something and make the community a better and more constructive place to be. Yknow, one that supports other mermaids and their businesses and protects their own when people are rude, abusive, or just plain mean. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.


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[Aquata]

If money is tight, people gravitate towards cheaper options. The thing to do would be to just highlight the differences, why choose the original. Even if they buy fake, it's probably such bad quality that they'll soon buy the original though.

As for copying other designs, that's trickier. I mean, it requires talent too. Like forging painings. You can't put it in a museum, but you can hang it on your wall. I guess if just some random wants a tail that looks a certain way, it's okay, but definitely not a professional. If you're just a private person with too much money burning a hole in your pocket, nobody's going to even see it. A mermaid perfomer wearing another perfomers tail is kind of like stealing their image. So, in a way I think it as both, art as an homage to a beautiful piece, but also piracy in the professional circles. Also, like in paintngs, you can't claim it's an original, give credit where it's due and say that this was inspired by that.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Because you might learn something and make the community a better and more constructive place to be. Yknow, one that supports other mermaids and their businesses and protects their own when people are rude, abusive, or just plain mean. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.


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Ok you know what, your right selkish i just had a light bulb moment im a ne self thanks for the enlightenment...
Can we move on now?


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Even if they buy fake, it's probably such bad quality that they'll soon buy the original though.

Exactly my point. Great product promotions.


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