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    Model Mayhem?

    Anyone here have a model mayhem?
    I made one a couple months ago but I didn't realize I had to approve
    my profile and it seems minutes after it was approved I was being bombarded
    with emails and questions regarding shoots, most of them for "nudes and erotics"
    Now I'm a bit overwhelmed with all this. I dunno if half these people are legit or
    not.

    Does this happen often? Is it just a "first join" type of thing or will I continuously
    get a spout of emails like this? It's a bit crazy o_o
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    Isn't there a way to designate what kind of shoots you are interested in? Maybe?
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    yes it can go crazy but some are scams so be very very careful!!!!
    I had a MM for my modelling only for years but deleted it recently, now I just have one only for mermaid stuff- I dont use it very often though to book anything. However with the one I used for non mer modelling I met some lifelong friends!

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    I don't mind doing nudes I don't quite know what erotica entails though.
    I don't want to go to some place and end up being on the set of a porn scene.. Lol

    I think I might cross off nudes and see what happens, cause it's a bit offsetting to
    get that many requests for nude photos the second you join.
    Also how do you tell if it's a scam? I'd assume they'd try to get you there alone or
    take you to a place that's sketchy.
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    Nudes and Erotica is HUGE in the Modeling world and they NEVER go away. I never want to do nudes with photographers and even when I strictly say no they still ask. About 90% of the time they are taken either outside, in their houses or in Hotel rooms. Normally with nudity they really dont want escorts there and a lot of photographers refuse men to be escorts. They are all types of people who put up questions about scams and sexual harassment etc in the forums so I'd really look through the modeling section especially since your new to MM. Normally the scams I get are (We are working through a Clothing designer who picked you to model, We will send this amount of money to your address and send half of it the make up artist that we have chosen etc) The check is always a bad check and if you cash it within a few days it bounces and shit goes bad. I say work/find people on MM that are in your area ONLY and add those else where who you know. I usually friend my favorite clothing designers (if they have one) and I definitely friend a lot of people who live and/or travel to Colorado a lot.

    If you get nude requests just delete it and move on.

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    Also Erotica is like Porn. It's usually is a photographer using a lot of angles and photographs your private parts really close and have your face blurred in the back or someone touching you explicitly or you touching yourself in certain areas either on the bed, in public, hotel rooms where ever. It's definitely NOT artistic nudity. I can give you loads of examples if you wish?

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    When you say "male escort" I assume you mean someone coming to the location with you, right?
    Cause I wouldn't go ANYWHERE alone. I'd definitely bring my boyfriend with me, so if they say he
    can't be on the set AT ALL then that'd definitely be something very fishy that I'd turn down and report.

    I suppose the only "nude" I'd like to do is for a classroom where there are a lot of people present so
    I wouldn't be caught alone with anyone or have to fear anything sketchy.
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    Yes any person who comes with you to a photo shoot is an escort. Also I'm gonna make this short, Not all the photographers are bad. Just because they don't allow your boyfriend doesn't mean they are trying to get in your pants. There are more reasons why they wont allow your boyfriend to come then you think. Examples? They could try and run the shoot and ruin it, they will try to control your posing or the boyfriend could become insanely jealous and yet again ruin it. Now I'm not saying YOUR boyfriend will do it but it happens and will repeatively happens and all they want is to get great photos, expand their's and your portfolio as well as have a good experience/shoot.

    Now to report a photographer just because they wont allow your boyfriend? I'm sorry but I find that going a bit too far as well as rude and a lot of people will tell you on MM that you should stop modeling if you were to do that. Just because they refuse your boyfriend doesn't mean you HAVE to go alone. Normally I bring a friend that is a girl with me, sometimes my boyfriend comes and sometimes my dad and sometimes I know the photographer very well and is a good friend of mine so I ride with them alone.

    Everyone has a personal preference but I would HATE to see a good photographers reputation be ruined because some girl assumed the worse and reported them when they have never had any issues. Every photographers has a right to say no as well as the model when it comes to a photo shoot but that does not mean you have to report them. That's like reporting you for saying no to nudity.

    Now I have seen/heard of several stories if these girls going to photo shoots and strictly saying no nudity to the photographer and he decided to start demanding it and the girl went nude because she was tired of it. Seriously that happens. It happens to me all the time and that will also never go away. Just keep saying no or just ignore it. Never go nude unless you are ready.

    Also my MM is: http://www.modelmayhem.com/1793064

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    Also how do you tell if it's a scam? I'd assume they'd try to get you there alone or
    take you to a place that's sketchy.


    If they ask you to pay any money in first contact, or if they try and convince you to pay for a modelling workshop generally. MM tries really hard to crack down but people create multiple accounts. There was a huge case of it in my city and the woman use MM and just was finally arrested after scamming a LOT of people

    Also Erotica is like Porn.
    thats not true, thats like saying "nude" is like porn. DeviantART has a very awesome erotica/fetish gallery. IN what I've been exposed to working in an art gallery for 8 years, and my time as a model/photographer, and using websites like deviantart and MM, erotica tends to focus on taboo sexual subjects- that doesn't mean it's porn. These sights don't allow porn and porn means putting a into b or showing fluids etc. Some of the most popular erotica works have no nudity and are more subjective or suggestive. Porn can certainly have elements of erotica but it's unfair to say erotica is like porn. It extends into traditional arts as well, not just photography. As in ANY art field there will always be people who do legit porn and pass it off, but it's a lot less than people assume.

    Examples from DA fetish/erotica gallery: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs8/i/200...by_suzi9mm.jpg
    http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs36/i/20..._by_armene.jpg
    http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs45/i/20...ohntisbury.jpg
    http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs51/f/20...y_by_Klodi.jpg
    http://th00.deviantart.net/fs39/PRE/...cellar_fcp.jpg (this is an insanely popular image, frequently shown on tumblr, from a book about erotic art)

    well known artist George Steeves is also an excellent example of erotic work that is provocative and clearly not porn. Some of his images can be seen on google images, but most are online on art gallery catalogues like www.msvuart.ca




    Kanti, I think posing for drawing is great. And taking along someone with you so you feel safe is always good too- I have never heard of any photographer denying someone that right, legit modelling workshops and casting groups encourage it as well. I wouldn't jump right into photo modelling for nudity, but when you do decide to do it make sure you understand the model release forms you're signing and you know where the work is going to end up. Never work with anyone who refuses to make time to meet you and discuss first. I actually met with the nude photographer I work with the most several times. My boyfriend came to my first photoshoot with him but after that I was totally convinced and comfortable. Same with the other photographer I worked with. In both cases both men were able to give me many references, had many publications, and exhibited work.

    No matter what or how legit someone seems, if you get bad vibes, then you got bad vibes! The one time I ignored my vibes I wish I didn't. The person met all my usual standards but just gave me a bad vibe and I was very regretful of working with them. Not because I was unsafe, but because of the way they portrayed me. Maybe taking off the nude thing for now until you get a feel for the site and some of the people. It's not like you can't approach someone if you'd like who you know does nude works.


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    Normally with nudity they really dont want escorts there and a lot of photographers refuse men to be escorts.
    if you don't do nudes, I dont think that's a fair statement to make at all.
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    Hmmm I probably won't be doing erotic then xD

    Maybe, I have no idea the etiquette of these scenarios. Still, I see them telling me no male escorts as
    threatening. A female can try to "take control" of a shoot in the same way a male would. If they do male
    shoots would the same thing happen? Would they say "don't bring a female escort"? xD
    Either way, I suppose I'll just avoid those, they seem strange to me and make me uncomfortable, regardless
    of the reasoning behind it.
    You're right though, I shouldn't report anyone, I just wouldn't go.
    I'm sure you know more about it than me xD

    Err... Also I dunno I'm starting to rethink it a bit. I don't mind the nudity that much but if I ever ran into a
    photographer who kept pushing it after I already said no that'd be really rude.

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    if I ever ran into a
    photographer who kept pushing it after I already said no that'd be really rude.

    A photographer who tries to push ANYTHING on you that you're clearly not interested in, does not have your best interest in mind and probably shouldn't be someone you work with

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    Does fetish count as erotica?
    I sort of wanted to do "erotica" in the sense of maybe having a whip, using liquid latex, wearing very
    tall shoes, etc. I suppose like those photos you posted. I didn't want anything to do with appearing to
    touch myself o_o that seems very inappropriate. I mean, not that I don't disapprove of it, I just don't
    want photos of me like that circulating around.
    I joined modelmayhem to expose my art mainly and to get my prosthetics and costumes some artistic
    use. I'd think that'd be a fun photo shoot rather than a "OK wear this swimsuit.. Ok now take the top
    off and put your hands over your nipples.. Don't worry nothing will show... Ok now just let us shoot
    your titties"

    I'd do nude if the fact that me being nude wasn't the entire focus. I don't want to be one of those girls
    in the sports illustrated magazine xD but if I did do a shoot with a mermaid tail I'd have no problem
    with having my top off. I guess if that makes any sense.

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    I sort of wanted to do "erotica" in the sense of maybe having a whip, using liquid latex, wearing very
    tall shoes, etc. I suppose like those photos you posted.
    all those things ARE fetishes and they'd totally fall under erotica

    so, you're not interested in "pin up" style nudes, (e.g. in the swimsuit with a hand covering a breast) but you'd be fine in doing artistic suggestive nude (where the nudity isn't the focus)

    all your preferences and stuff, your ideas, things you're comfortable doing- you can outline all that stuff right on your MM Bio, that's what most people do. They're very clear and say "this is what I'm interested in, this is what I'm not" so you can still have the nudity check marked if you want, and then have it all spelled out in your bio but really, whatever you're comfortable with

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    No one mentions pinup though, they go straight for "Oh I see you have erotica checked off and I see that you
    say you do nudes!" so I took down erotica. I don't want to say no to nude because I'm ok with it, I just need to
    hear the circumstances first.
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    How exactly does model maayhem work? I've been told to look into it.
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    How exactly does model maayhem work? I've been told to look into it.
    A lot like FB only specifically for those in the photo/model industry.

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    I have a mm and its helped me allot with my career as a model. Always check a persons profile and album to make sure they are legit and try to have a meeting prior to the shoot to discuss eachothers limits and preferences. I never work with photographers that don't allow a person to company me, for me that's fishy. Iv had pushy photographers as well and all I do is simply tell them i am not interested in working with them. Iv met dozens of wonderful photographers tho and yes there will always,be assholes but that's just part of the trade. Just be savvy and keep your guard up until you feel that person is trustworthy.

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    Do you need to have done previous modeling work befoe you can put yourself up on there? I've heard quite a few people mention MM and was thinking about looking into it. I would think if you are careful and never go anywhere on you're own it would be fine.

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    You have to have 4 professional looking shots to apply but you don't actually have to have experience. I'm still getting my shots together to submit my application and they're going to be from the same shoot I'm using to apply to Suicide Girls. You can display your experience level on your profile.

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    Thanks When I'm looking into something I usually have a million questions, lol.

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