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    What does this mean exactly?

    Hi mers

    I don't know exactly if this is the right place to post this so if you want to move it fell free to do it

    Well I'm here because I have a doubt regarding something I saw this morning.

    I was surfing on the net and I found Mermaid Melissa's facebook page for the first time so I started watching her pics when I found a strange photo, I mean the photo was extremely beautiful but the writing on it was...I don't know how to describe it...maybe weird, inappropriate or meaningless?

    I don't know maybe it's my fault that I can't get the meaning of it but please can someone explain me that?
    What does it mean exactly "the world's leading professional mermaid"?
    I think she can't say this in respect of all the mers out there because every mermaid is the leading mermaid of her country and if we want to be picky about it there are other mermaids maybe more famous than her like Hanna or Raina, is that right?
    I mean writing that she's sayng that all the other mers don't exist, or she's the best one or something like this?

    I am not angry, I'm not trying to downplay her work, I'm just trying to understand...

    this is the stumbling block: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    Edit: I found out that she has that phrase written also on her website
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    it's a bit strange, since there is no "title" or other means of determining who'd be the "leading"...anything.

    maybe she was the very fist who had a tail, or called herself a prof mermaid?
    she can hold her breath the longest? dive the deepest?

    seriously, I have no idea.
    probably it's just a "logo" her manager came up with.

    in a discipline like mermaiding, where there are no contests or competitions of any sort,
    it would have made more sense to write "one of the world's most famous mermaid actors" or something along those lines.

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    Personally, I feel you should just let this roll off your mer-shoulders, dear friend. This is nothing more but an interesting form of advertisement. It's a simple way of making something sound greater than it really is.

    For example: The World's Best Coffee. The question is: Where is the proof that it's the world's best coffee? Isn't this just opinion? Who ran the tests to claim it was the World's Best? I've seen the sign The World's Best Coffee so many times, it makes me sick. It's all just advertisement purposes deary, even small business like Mermaid Melissa does it. It's sweet, simple, and catchy. Don't let it bother you.
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    Yes I agree whith you Caltuna!

    To be honest I thought that the first mer ever was Hannah Fraser and that she was also the first calling hersel professional mermaid (I know she also performed as a mermaid actress for many films).

    But yes I think too that "one of the world's most famous mermaid actors" would make more sense.

    Solotary Siren it was just a doubt about it because I couldn't understand what it exactly meant but yes you're right there is no proof of that!Thank you for clearing my mind
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    Yeah, you're not the only one who noticed that when she started. I have my own personal criticisms of Melissa, I don't hate her or anything or try to perpetuate drama etc. I pretty much just try to ignore her as I felt a little used by her when she first started up. So I don't usually visit her page or website. You know, out of sight out of mind type deal. But her stuff gets shared a lot on FB and I did see that phrase and find it upsetting. I think Hannah Pioneered this field for us. She's also been the longest running professional mermaid based on my research. Not that it needs to be a fight between the two or anything, I just found it kind of arrogant. I mean, it's not a title you should assign yourself in my opinion. Same would go for "world's leading tail maker". Thom and Eric And Foxmoon have been making tails for public purchase longer than anyone else and it would make me uncomfortable as well to see another tail maker only a few years old claiming that status too. She also has the phrase about saving the ocean's creatures before they all become mythical, which I find contradictory based on her work at sea world.

    I guess what I'm saying is I agree with you, but I try not to care. Her calling herself that doesn't really affect anyone else. People grow and change, and we try all sorts of things to get ourselves out there and do well. I supposed it would be up to the client to decide if she's really the world's leading anything. When I book gigs they have no clue who she is or most other mermaids Typically for ANYTHING to have that title, that is some sort of assessment process. Products have to go through product testing etc. There isn't anything like that for mers, and like it's already said what would you base it on? swimming capabilities? Number of gigs? breath holding etc? To be fair, I feel the exact same way about the Mermaid Awards from the various mercons

    I guess more what gets me, is that I've seen it suggested online whenever anyone points out that statement, that they must be jealous. I don't think you have to be jealous to raise your eyebrows at it. I can't hold my breath or swim like Melissa, that woman is an athlete. With years of experience. I can't complain and be jealous that I don't get aquarium gigs when there are no aquariums anywhere around me or any of the provinces around me You kinda have to judge yourself by your own goals, and not the work of others. Take inspiration from them, but don't convince yourself you have to be successful in the ways that they have in order to be considered a professional. You get my drift?

    I do wish though that people would be more open about those who have supported them in the past. It's not so much I want to be appreciated for helping people, or I think that of others... it's just that really no one gets to certain levels without help, and it's lame to act like it was done all on their own. So many people have helped me. When I wrote my book I was trying so hard to list all the people who helped me along the way and I still forgot people I feel like a statement like that ignores all the mermaids a person has to climb over and learn from to get to that level. When you look at all the news articles etc about up and coming mers, everyone acknowledges Hannah. She's not retired yet, so to me, she'll always be the world's leading mermaid

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    It could just be because she gets the most media attention? Generally "leading" in that context means "most popular". At least that's what I've always assumed. Doesn't hurt me any. She's too spendy for anyone in Utah to want to hire, so she doesn't hinder my gaining clientele in the slightest
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    I don't think she gets the most media attention. I still think that goes to Hannah. And I'd say that Linden in this past 6 months likely has more media than she's ever had because of how viral her stuff went.

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    True. I had at least three people post Linden's video on my fb wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSolitarySiren View Post
    For example: The World's Best Coffee. The question is: Where is the proof that it's the world's best coffee? Isn't this just opinion? Who ran the tests to claim it was the World's Best? I've seen the sign The World's Best Coffee so many times, it makes me sick.
    I stopped reading after this ^ and my mind wandered to this:
    Is it too early in the year to watch Elf again?

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    Hahaha Hales, that was aweseome. It's never too early.

    As for Mermaid Melissa - I'm with Raina on it. I try to sort of leave her out of sight, out of mind. I have my own qualms about her, but I'm not going to bring them up. I must certainly say that for me, Hannah, Linden and Raina would be my top role models in this community.

    I don't like how some people look to mermaiding and call it a "business" like it's acting or modelling. Yes, there can be money to be had in it, but why don a tail for some quick bucks? It doesn't work that way and has a lot more meaning behind it.

    So, I'm not saying that she doesn't do anything environmental or whatnot, it just seems like she treats it more like a business than a purpose? I hope I'm making sense. ><
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    Ha, I was going to embed that clip. You beat me to it. Elf is such a great movie.

    Perhaps it is the GREATEST MOVIE IN THE WORLD. ...or maybe I'm just shamelessly exaggerating.

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    Yeah, I know a lot of people have mentioned that they were bothered by that :/ Mostly becuase if anyone should be using that it would be Hannah, and it writes off the rest of the community. I think the Elf clip is a good example- cheap marketing ploy :P

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    It's just marketing. Just like solitarysiren said, just because you but "The Best", "World's Greatest" or "Leading" in front of something doesn't make it true.
    I always saw Melissa as more of a mermaid/aquatic performer, and Hannah is a Mermaid and Environmentalist. I'm not saying Melissa doesn't do environmental stuff....I just don't see her as that kind of mermaid.
    Maybe because Hannah has more media exposure as an Environmentalist, maybe I show favouritism because she's an Aussie (even though she lives in the US). I dunno..?
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    Sure it's arrogant, but that's marketing for you :P

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    @Mermaid Raina

    I'm not jealous of her, I have just to say that and as I said before it's not to say something bad about her.

    I just decided to ask because I couldn't understand on the basis of what she gave herself this title, not made because Mermaid Melissa is a bad person for the love of God!
    I just didn't get why she could call herself the "leading" because thinking about what it really means I thought that Hannah should be the one that can really call herself "the leading".
    I don't know if you get what I mean....

    And yes you're right, I think too that people in general should be more open about those who have supported them in the past; I didn't know what happened in the past 'cause I'm still a little mer here, I know that there whas a lot of mess with her, Eric and God only knows who else (reading what you say there is more hidden in her past than what I thought)


    @all the other mers/mermen who replied here

    I don't know if you'll be interested in what I'm going to write anyway I think I have to share this with you to let you know me little more even because I'm not so active on this forum as I would be....as all you mers are.
    Just to let you understand that in me there will never be jealousy or envy (or any bad feeling/intetions for any mer), but only admiration, great admiration.

    I bumped here by accident, almost one year ago on a hot afternoon in March looking for some more informations about where to find a tail.
    "Ok it's routine" you'll think, but this has much deeper roots in me....a very important meaning.

    As I told you when I introduced myself for the first time here, when I was a very little girl I liked (I still like it XD ) to swimm as my legs where a tail and I was Ariel, but even when I was a girl I didn't really believe that this could be reality for me one day 'cause the magic evanished every time I got out of the water.

    So year by year I always thought to mermaids like something extremely beautiful but impossible to reach and I grew up like an ordinary person (so boring you can't even image!).
    Yes I had dreams but they were more...rational.
    I always liked horses as mermaids, but you can easily understand that "having my own horse" is something more rational and easy to do than become a mermaid.
    And I really put all of me in this dream, heart, soul, time and everything whithout never giving up, every time people, parents or life told me "this isn't for you!You'll never get a horse or become a rider!" and I felt I was pushed to the ground like when someone throw a punch right in your face, I raised again, every time more determinated than before and I went on like this for 17 years.

    All this for 17 long hard years,years in which I felt like a failure, useless, with no way to escape or choice...years of suffering.

    But one day, my guardian angel decided that this pain had to end but not in an easy way: my heart had to be crushed completely and my sould had to be definitely destroyed to embrace my happiness, real happiness that this time would never abandoned me.
    After the last time I rose again from the floor and put myself together to rejoin my neverending war to have my horse my mom came to me and said "You know how much money someone needs for a horse and for competiotions and you also know that we're not rich, so now you're old enough to understand that you'll never get a horse or become a rider" and she left me.

    That instant I realized that everything I lived for never existed! I chased a chimera for 17 useless years and I wasted the most precious time I had, I wasted my life focusing on something that was never going to happen.

    I felt soulless, I couldn't even feel my heart beating and there were no thougs in me.
    There was nothing in me, no feelings no interest in anything, nothing at all!
    I became nothing, I would say "I felt nothing" to let you understand but actually I really felt nothing, nada de nada I didn't felt anything!I was empty.
    I don't know how much time I spent in that status...one hour?A day?I really don't know.

    It was then that I started breathing again!
    As I told you at the beginning, mermaids where still in my mind but suffocated under the weight of false hope so I couldn't hear them, but they where still there they just waited for the right moment to come out.

    I'm literally mad about Disney in general!I grew up with Disney films and I still thanks who made them because they are real magic!
    So in that status of "nobody" in which I was I started thinking about how happy (and I don't know how to describe that feeling) Disney films made me when I was a little girl and how much I loved "The little mermaid" that I decided to make a list of all Disney's films and whatch all of them.
    Just after finishing "The little mermaid 3" I thought that I wanted to hear again the song "under the sea" because it has always been my favourite one!
    So I opened youtube and I started looking for the video.
    While I was earing that song that made me so happy I was looking at the suggested videos and I saw "For the First Time- Music Video Mermaid Raina" and I thought "she's not real...it must be one of those videos with fake mermaids or like H2O....it'll boring, but I want to whatch it it's something that I like...yes I like mermaids' films I'll watch it".

    So I opened the video and I started whatching it.
    I couldn't believe to my eyes! O.O
    I was speachless and completed amazed!
    She was so......real!I didn't expected something like her.
    I spent 2 or 3 minutes wondering how it could be possible....I mean I really thought she was real and I couldn't believe that because my brain was saying to me "hello there!Mermaids doesn't exist!" but she was there on my laptop, swimming in that way so kind!Seh was a dream!I just couldn't believe to what I was whatching!
    How many times did I say "I couldn't believe"?
    I realized that she was wearing a tail but I whatched again that video I don't know how many times, I just liked it (I still like it) because watching her swimming in that way, believing she was a real mermaid made me really believe she was real and I felt again in the same way I felt when I was a little girl and I spent hours at the sea pretending I was Ariel.
    And I am a competitor swimmer since I was 2 and I live in a city on the sea!
    I mean water is in my life from always and how could I forget it?How could I ignore its hollo?
    I just completed forgot it!
    But as I said before mermaids had always been inside myself and it was like they were waiting for that young woman to awake again.

    And then something started moving again within me.
    I thought to her for all the night...I went to school and I didn't follow the lessons, I was in my desk in the class, but I couldn't stop thinking about that mermaid...I took a decision: I had to discover more about her!

    So Mermaid Raina became part of my "favorites" on my internet browser and I spent days whatching her videos, looking to her facebook page and everything I could find about her.
    Why?Because she made me feel happy as I felt when I used to play the "Ariel role".
    I was back to being a child, a carefree child and everyone knows that children are the happiest creatures in this world!
    I started dreaming again, but this time it's different because now I feel magic within me!
    When I am in the water and I start dancing underwater and doing bubble heart kisses I really feel myself!I really feel like I want to be no one if not me!It's like in the movies when the girl turns out to actually be half mermaid once she reaches a certain age.

    Then I started looking for a tail like hers and I found the Mertailor website, but alongside it I found this community (realted to the discussions about the displeasure caused by him).
    But most important I found all of you!
    Yes Raina is my mer-model but all the mers here, all of you are my day-makers!
    I mean that each of you help me grow up as a mer, as a dream out of a chilhood and gave me part of her/himself to become my dream.

    I thought to write this later in time, maybe once I started my business (now I'm a mer just for fun) so that everyone could hear my sense of thankfulness towards you!

    I don't know how to express how much I love this community, all of you even if we don't know each other.
    So mers I will never and I say NEVER be jealous of any mer here and all over the world, I'm only amazed every time I see one of your videos or I learn something new from you.

    I'm sorry if with this biblical story some of you are bored I just wanted to let you know that I really admire and love all of you!


    P.S. Raina you're book is so amzing!I really really love it!It's wonderful!The first chapter is the one I like the most!
    I think I've read it thousand of times.
    Go on like this I really like what you do and, only to be honest till the end even mermaid Raven is my mer-model (I found her because she was your tail maker) and I absolutely love what she does with all the mer-makin stuff!
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    Wait...I thought I was the world's leading professional mermaid! Dang it! Guess I better take that bumper sticker off the car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AniaR View Post
    Yeah, you're not the only one who noticed that when she started. I have my own personal criticisms of Melissa, I don't hate her or anything or try to perpetuate drama etc. I pretty much just try to ignore her as I felt a little used by her when she first started up. So I don't usually visit her page or website. You know, out of sight out of mind type deal. But her stuff gets shared a lot on FB and I did see that phrase and find it upsetting. I think Hannah Pioneered this field for us. She's also been the longest running professional mermaid based on my research. Not that it needs to be a fight between the two or anything, I just found it kind of arrogant. I mean, it's not a title you should assign yourself in my opinion. Same would go for "world's leading tail maker". Thom and Eric And Foxmoon have been making tails for public purchase longer than anyone else and it would make me uncomfortable as well to see another tail maker only a few years old claiming that status too. She also has the phrase about saving the ocean's creatures before they all become mythical, which I find contradictory based on her work at sea world.

    I guess what I'm saying is I agree with you, but I try not to care. Her calling herself that doesn't really affect anyone else. People grow and change, and we try all sorts of things to get ourselves out there and do well. I supposed it would be up to the client to decide if she's really the world's leading anything. When I book gigs they have no clue who she is or most other mermaids Typically for ANYTHING to have that title, that is some sort of assessment process. Products have to go through product testing etc. There isn't anything like that for mers, and like it's already said what would you base it on? swimming capabilities? Number of gigs? breath holding etc? To be fair, I feel the exact same way about the Mermaid Awards from the various mercons

    I guess more what gets me, is that I've seen it suggested online whenever anyone points out that statement, that they must be jealous. I don't think you have to be jealous to raise your eyebrows at it. I can't hold my breath or swim like Melissa, that woman is an athlete. With years of experience. I can't complain and be jealous that I don't get aquarium gigs when there are no aquariums anywhere around me or any of the provinces around me You kinda have to judge yourself by your own goals, and not the work of others. Take inspiration from them, but don't convince yourself you have to be successful in the ways that they have in order to be considered a professional. You get my drift?

    I do wish though that people would be more open about those who have supported them in the past. It's not so much I want to be appreciated for helping people, or I think that of others... it's just that really no one gets to certain levels without help, and it's lame to act like it was done all on their own. So many people have helped me. When I wrote my book I was trying so hard to list all the people who helped me along the way and I still forgot people I feel like a statement like that ignores all the mermaids a person has to climb over and learn from to get to that level. When you look at all the news articles etc about up and coming mers, everyone acknowledges Hannah. She's not retired yet, so to me, she'll always be the world's leading mermaid
    I really respect you Raina.
    You always have such a respectful way of talking about things, which I really admire.
    I "raised my eyebrows" with the above topic, but as you say out of sight out of mind. In the end the community of merfolk here for the most part that I've seen in the last few years try their best to respect each other and give each other credit when credit is due; which I really appreciate.

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    I agree. "world's best", "world's first" etc etc makes you hateful -_-
    Mind you, I don't hate Melissa, she's one of my inspirations too, but I much prefer Hannah because she'ss more humble
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