Archive: "Sewing Neoprene"

[Winged Mermaid]

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malinghi
Posts: 265 12/29/10 15:04:07	I've been trying to sew 2mm neoprene with a sewing machine and have encountered a lot of difficulty. I know people have talked about sewing neoprene in other threads but I figured it would be useful to have a thread exclusively for this topic. So do you guys use sewing machines or do it by hand? Which machines or needles or thread do you use? I've been using a Singer Promise with the default needle. The thread is 100% polyester. I haven't had any success yet, and on the advice of some people here I think I'm going to try hand sewing.
Jewel de Lune
Posts: 131 12/29/10 16:30:17	I haven't tried sewing Neoprene but I know that even sewing denim requires a heavy duty sewing machine. When we were shopping for a new sewing machine, the sales associate was telling us that the Singer Heavy Duty can sew heavier fabrics like denim and some home fabrics (like for curtains or couch covers, etc.) while the other one couldn't. I believe the other one we were looking at is similar to the Singer Promise. I think you'd need a more heavy duty sewing machine to sew neoprene.
Winged Mermaid
Posts: 912 12/29/10 18:25:31	Here's a very useful article that was posted in the Making your own latex tail thread: http://www.rockywoods.com.../Sewing-Neoprene-Fabrics In terms of stitches, I'm personally I'm a fan of stretch stitches. These stitches stretch with the fabric, instead of just being stressed when the fabric stretches, as a straight stitch would. I have seen seams break when sewn with straight stitches- when I redid my lycra tail in a zig zag stitch it held up instead of breaking. In your sewing manual it should identify what stretch stitches your machine is capable of. However if you are using an expensive specialty thread it does take up a lot more thread than others. With thread, I would go for a heavy duty thread, like upholstery thread. To me that makes more sense, and I know Mike Van Daal used upholstery thread on his neoprene tails for stability. You will need to lubricate the needle, as neoprene is a rubber and will grab the needle making it very hard to sew. Do NOT use Vaseline or any petroleum based lubricant!! Not on neoprene, not on latex! This will damage the neoprene making it irreparable. Even wetsuit manufacturers warn against it, saying it destroys the adhesive then penetrates the core making it impossible to repair. Use of Vaseline on a commercial wetsuit will actually void it's warranty. Here (http://mer.yuku.com/topic/158) Capt Nemo recommends silicone based lube (diving grade). Just be warned when you do work with silicone DO NOT use silicone based lube!! It will break down the the silicone- apparently it actually melts. If you are worried about using silicone based lube with the ALEX latex/silicone mix, I suggest a water based lube. I have no experience with this, but I have been told by others that sew neoprene that it works quite well. I know Raven used a regular Singer to sew her first self made tail. I asked her how it held up as I was afraid my singer wouldn't be able to handle it, but she said it did fine with lubricant. So lube the needle, use the the suggest needle if possible, and go slowly. Check the stitching every so often to make sure there are no issues, and stop if the machine starts making unhappy noises or you smell anything burning/burning rubber. Don't forget to mark the seam allowance desired on the sewing plate, so you can line it up with the fabric as you go. Your stitching lines will be much straighter that way. If you have not sewn before, I suggest practicing on any other scrap fabric to get the maneuvering down first. Otherwise you may be making very good friends with a seam ripper- and stretch seams are pain in the behind to take out! But know that if you DO mess up, seam ripping and starting over is an option.
Capt Nemo
Posts: 578 12/31/10 14:36:47	I hand stitch neoprene. Get upholstery grade thread and a needle that can handle it. I use this stitch. Spacing about 3/32-1/8".
OrcaMatt
Posts: 179 04/12/11 07:32:40	Capt Nemo wrote: I hand stitch neoprene. Get upholstery grade thread and a needle that can handle it. I use this stitch. Spacing about 3/32-1/8". Blanket stitch?
taom
Posts: 202 04/17/11 15:56:45	It's also called the button hole stitch.

[Mermaasai]

How to button hole stitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME3qZMol4RI

[mermaidmeaghan99]

I bought some neoprene at joann fabrics and asked the woman helping me the same thing. she said that using leather needle on a standerd sewing machine should be fine. Regular needles will brake when using heaver fabrics. I would also sugest buying heavy duty thread (at joann fabrics)

[Mermaid Marissa]

I tried going on their website looking for neoprene fabric and nothing came up is it instore only?

[mermaidmeaghan99]

On some other threads I saw said that other people bought neoprene on joann fabrics. I looked on there website and I saw the same thing NOTHING. my joann's is pretty small, and I found neoprene there, I think it is in store only

[Mermaid Marissa]

grrr... do you kno anywhere else where you can buy neoprene???

[Azurin Luna]

Look on ebay, that's where I got my neoprene for a nice price

[mermaidmeaghan99]

If you are looking on the internet for some neoprene, this website has both neoprene and the other supplies that you MIGHT want when you sew it:
http://www.seattlefabrics.com/neopre...FQlN4AodSBXc0Q

[Mermaid Photine]

If you are looking on the internet for some neoprene, this website has both neoprene and the other supplies that you MIGHT want when you sew it:
http://www.seattlefabrics.com/neopre...FQlN4AodSBXc0Q

I've ordered from them. They are really helpful when I called and they sent the neoprene packaged nicely. I'd recomend them, or foamorder (Foamorder has cheaper sheets, but I got just a couple feet of neoprene from seattle fabrics for a project.)

[Mermaid Marissa]

If you are looking on the internet for some neoprene, this website has both neoprene and the other supplies that you MIGHT want when you sew it:
http://www.seattlefabrics.com/neopre...FQlN4AodSBXc0Q

what kind of neoprene do you order for tails?

[Spindrift]

I think people here generally order 2mm.

[Mermaid Marissa]

ok thanks

[mermaidmeaghan99]

well it depends on what kind of mermaid tail you want, if you are going to swim (generally) in warmer water (pool lake ect...) then you want to go with a thinner neoprene. If you are swimming mostly in oceans, then you would want a thicker neoprene. (thin neoprene: 2mm) (Thick neoprene: 3mm-4mm)

[Mermaid Jewel]

I swear this was answered somewhere but I can't find it. Do you need to serge the edges of neoprene? When you cut it?

[Mermaid Marina]

May I ask what is the lube that can be used on a sewing machine needle? I tried to sew my 2.5mm neoprene with the strongest needle and it was incredibly difficult, however, I didnt lube the needle first. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!! :-) x

[Nixen Nicole]

I bought my neoprene at JoAnn's but they are discontinuing it and right now it is $12 a yard in stores that still have it. I was told any lubricant that is water based or dip the needle in soap or beeswax should work. KY jelly would work as well.

[WillowAnne]

There are loads of threads dedicated to this--if you look in the tailmaking section of the forum and click the sticky thread (at the top), there are links dedicated to what type of tail you're making. I'm making a neoprene sequin tail, too, and that's where I found all of the info- you just have to do a bit of searching.