What's their instagram? I'd like to take a cruise through, as well.
What's their instagram? I'd like to take a cruise through, as well.
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I think Amelia was actually talking about the @aliciaunderwater one to be more clear.
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We love their work and their collabs so we follow everything they have! So that's why we are confused and sad
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Originally Posted by Mermaid Amelia
Hey I was just looking at Sea through Seas instagram account and I noticed almost all of the finfolk production credits on the photos are gone. I would really hate to think that Alicia and Jim have done that on purpose but it definitely makes the whole situation look shady :/
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I looked through some of the Instagram photos, especially the newer ones. I can still see credits, in the comments and photos.
The credits seemed to have been removed from her Alicia Underwater instagram, which is often confused for the see through sea one.
yes it upset me too. I have been following them LONG BEFORE they even did mermaid stuff. independently. before they got together! lol. I used to follow any underwater photographers or videographers I could find.Originally Posted by Mermaid Jessica Pearl
We love their work and their collabs so we follow everything they have! So that's why we are confused and sad
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Me too, makes me really sad.
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I'm really nervous. I sent in my measurements and I followed all the advice on the how to measure for a tail thread. I'm just afraid it won't fit. How stretchy is silicone? I reckon it's like a pencil skirt, but obviously thicker and more rubbery.
It depends on the shore hardness and the thickness of the pour. I've gotten to play with FinFolk, Mertailor, Merbella, and Kariel tails and of all of them I'd say that FinFolk is the thickest pour but Mertailor's have the least stretch. Merbella's tend to be thin but go on a bit easier and Kariel tails are medium thick but feel the stretchiest. If they make their's like FinFolk it's a lot more about how you put it on. Fold it inside out to the knees, put one foot in the pocket then slide the second one in then unfold it over your legs working from the bottom up. Putting a tail on in the water for me is the easiest.
Did you do your measurements from at least two or three different people? If you get similar numbers, you should be fine.
Don't feel bad. Jim and Alicia are really well known here on the islands. They do good work, show the islands in a beautiful light and have worked on a ton of marine conservation projects here. Also make sure you get FACTS not impressions/feelings from people before passing judgments.
Some people on this site like to stir up trouble and assume they know more than they really do and at some points they are blatantly lying/wrong. Like when someone told ME that the Aquarium I worked at (Waikiki Aquarium) reached out to them about mermaid info for their dive tank. When the aquarium I work at has never had that communication with this individual nor have they ever considered putting mermaids in the only tank large enough for one, the shark tank. I confirmed this individual had their "facts" wrong by checking with the heads of staff and Director of the Waikiki Aquarium who is a personal friend.
From what I have heard on the forum FinFolk productions has had some issues with communicating and the time to get a tail is really long. If Alicia worked for FinFolk and did not sign a DNC with them or the time period has elapsed and she is now free of a DNC there is nothing wrong with her making tails. On top of that she may have seen how their business was run and she may have her own ideas about how to make it smoother and more streamlined. Tail maker communication has been a big issue on the site, that they are responding quickly and professionally is awesome to hear. I am all for more tail makers it adds more variety and options. On top of that Alicia and Jim are both free divers. Not hobbyists who swim to 20 feet and say they free dive, they are pro deep water divers that understand hydrodynamics and what you need to be safe in the water. If I were to buy a tail and I saw that free diving, professional underwater photographers who have already assisted in making silicone tails were making it I would jump on the chance. Congratulations on your tail, I think that Jim and Alicia's bodies of work prove that they have long term financial and business foresight. Don't be sad, those two have done more for marine conservation and the environment than most of the professional mermaids on here but together. Your tail is contributing to a better respected ocean, be proud.
I have talked to multiple people who talked to Finfolk about this situation, and Finfolk is very upset and feeling betrayed by Alicia. No, they didn't have her sign a DNC- they trusted her. They lived together for the year that Alicia worked for them and were close friends.
I saw the message from Alicia Raina was talking about (she forwarded it on to me, since it was meant to go to the owners of MerNetwork, Alicia just made a mistake in believing it was Raina and Christomer) and the content was very manipulative. They totally blindsided Finfolk by breaking their friendship off in an email (an email which was enclosed in the same message as well), then in the same day, hours later, they announced they would be making silicone mermaid tails commercially.
I guess Finfolk had to learn the lesson the hard way to not even trust friends, to have people they think they can trust sign contracts- that's a pretty friggin crappy way to learn that lesson. Alicia lived with them and learned their trade; then broke off the friendship, and then (using those same techniques they learned from Finfolk via their friendship- a trade that took years of experimentation and refinement by Finfolk to get right) started their own competing tail making company. Anyone would be upset over that. Just becuase it's legal, doesn't make it right.
Are you seriously hanging on to that YEARS later when Raina has gone over and over and OVER with you time and time again that you misunderstood that WHOLE ordeal? Please re-read becuase you keep bring this up over and over again:
Talk about beating a dead horse. Please just let it go already.
What's sad is that I was standing up for Jim and Alicia who have not yet posted themselves and the attempt is immediately to discredit me.
Thanks for making me feel like this site gives people fair chances. I really appreciate being lied about and then getting chewed out for trying to prevent the same from happening to others.
Some people on this site like to stir up trouble and assume they know more than they really do and at some points they are blatantly lying/wrong. Like when someone told ME that the Aquarium I worked at (Waikiki Aquarium) reached out to them about mermaid info for their dive tank. When the aquarium I work at has never had that communication with this individual nor have they ever considered putting mermaids in the only tank large enough for one, the shark tank. I confirmed this individual had their "facts" wrong by checking with the heads of staff and Director of the Waikiki Aquarium who is a personal friend.
Dude I STILL have the email. Give me your email and I'll forward it to you. If you go back and look at my post from what was it now, 2012? Back when I said I wanted to write a book you said I wasn't professional enough. I said the aquarium in your area thought I was, because they contacted me. I didn't say the one you worked at. And I didn't know you consider there to be a difference between "aquarium" and "oceanarium". Also dude you can't cherry pick and ignore some of my posts and read othersAnyway if you'd like to PM me your email I am HAPPY to forward you this email I still have. It was from Bob at the pacific beach hotel, HE referred to it as an aquarium (which is why *I* did) sent on 10/9/12.
STILL HAPPY TO FORWARD IT TO YOU. More than happy to screencap it and put it here.
The problem is, you are COMMITTED to making me look bad, so you twist things around about me as often as you can in an effort to discredit me so people don't believe me. Despite facts. And you can say what you want about THIS situation, I have the proof of this too.The rule of thumb seems to be with you, if Raina is for it, you are against it. I have so much power over what you think apparently.
So keep on keeping on with the hating dude. I recall your long long posts about how my books would never work. Well they have worked out fine? Haven't they
edit: dear members this is what I have been talking about. I have proof of all this stuff. I haven't said *anything* that proof hasnt been provided to the mods for. If I have made an observation or posted an opinion, I have specifically said that. People can make their own observations and opinions. With Cordion's dead horse story about me being contacted by an aquarium in hawaii, I still have the proof of that and offer it to him. he can't argue with proof, so the only thing he can do is attack my character which he has done many times out of the blue on mernetwork. He whispers around to people to be careful in believing me because I have "lied" but when about 2 minutes of investigation, it's easy to see who the liar is in the situation.
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No, I was not attempting to discredit you. Only to ask you to please let it go already, because you keep bringing it up time and time again, years later, when Raina has made every effort to resolve that whole thing with you. I'm not trying to discredit you- I'm trying to, once again, set that whole disagreement straight so you'll stop bringing it up.
I feel your whole paragraph about the aquarium was an attempt to discredit Raina. Every single time you bring up that argument it's an attempt to discredit her (you call her a liar), when she told you numerous times it was a simple misunderstanding from using one word (aquarium) instead of another (oceanarium)- when she didn't have the understanding that the aquarium and oceanarium were two different things.
I feel like that last paragraph is you just trying to push my buttons. And when were you lied about? I'm sorry as you took it as chewing you out, I am simply tired of you bringing up the same argument over and over and over when it was resolved long ago- if you had only bothered to read what happened with the whole misunderstanding. (And if you disbelieved that, to receive and read the proof that Raina has offered you several times.)
I do not deny that Alicia and Jim have done amazing work in photography, videography, and have done a lot for ocean conservation - and I never did. That does not mean that betraying friends that trusted you in that way is okay. But that is my opinion, and I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I am just very empathetic, especially in situations like this.
Im sure they've done amazing work, but it's never ok to enable shitty behaviour.
Art is one thing. Backstabbing/ sneaking around is another.
as for the rest of... Whatever that ^ is ... I'm pretty sure it was a misunderstanding (but this happened before I was ever a part of the community so I can't offer much of a say anyway). I'm not trying to sing kumbaya about this, but ya'll need to make like an Elsa and let it go if this was literally over a few years old.
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See Through sea havent produced any actual proof that Finfolk claimed they were interfering with wait times, as Cordion suggests. However, even if they did tell clients they were busy with see through sea, that doesn't excuse the behaviour at all.
As for the "misunderstanding" that he's been bringing up 4 years now, I've been offering him the proof to clear it up for 4 years. it's getting old.
Okay, seriously, 4 years? Let. It. Go! Sheesh! Especially when Raina has clearly proven that it was a misunderstanding on both parts (and even apologized, which is awesome of her considering you havent and you are clearly in the wrong too, if not more than she is). Seriously, Coradion, lock this one in a treasure chest and throw it in the Maraiana Trench. This issue should be long dead and forgotten about.
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Has see through sea been added as a tail maker yet?
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