Merbellas Thread

[PearlieMae]

Ok, I don't want to be the one to say this.... But how many things can a mermaid do in a tank? Swim in circles, blow bubble kisses and bubble rings, maybe some flips? There is a very limited number of things that can be done in such a small space, and there will definitely be some overlap between performers. As for noises, if you are copying sea creatures, I don't see how it can be said that is copying Raven. I've always thought that mermaids would likely be fluent in 'dolphin-speak' and 'whale-speak' (those creatures are intelligent enough that it is possible they have a language). Perhaps I am clueless about this, and I certainly don't mean any disrespect for Raven, but I just don't see how doing similar flips in a tank or squeaking like a dolphin is copying Raven. *Ducks and hides, fearing she started a flame war*

[Mermaid Isabel(:]

I've been really wondering about the "Mermish" noises, too; I've been trying to figure out what my character Starfrit would be like in terms of vocals and things like that. I'm really not good at talking to people, and I stumble over my words a lot when talking to people in-person (plus I have a pretty minor speech impediment that I'm super self-conscious about), so I've been practicing these various little noises to use instead; warbles, clicks and coos, trills and whistles, and I've got this sort of feline-ish throat purr that I do out of habit sometimes that could be either a purr or a growl, depending on how I do it. I got a lot of inspiration from Raven and her mermaids, but I'm also trying to sort of twist it around into my own variation of it, instead of trying to mimic the Merbellas entirely. Now I'm really nervous about people thinking I'm ripping off of them. D:


On that note, yay Raina! I'm so excited for you, I can't wait to see those new tails and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for your company! <3

I wouldn't be too worried there's only so much you can do with noises and such. Do what you feel comfortable with. I feel like the mer community shares ideas and are supportive of each other and I'd hate to see it turn into everyone pointing fingers yelling copy cat. When Raina brought that up she was talking about someone copying minute by minute performance material. I don't think we should all feel self conscious and afraid of what we can and can't do. This community normally shares ideas and inspiration with each other. Don't be too worried lots of other people make noises as well. You could also turn your head to the side and pretend you don't know how to say something and use hand signals as well. Kinda like charades :P

[PearlieMae]

But there's also there's a lot of "mermish" that isn't whale or dolphin sounds. The squeeks or "eek"s yeah, but the cooing and all the other sounds where they roll their tongues isn't. Also even the clicking is different from dolphins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8b_I5IjNE4 If you want to do sealife noises there's no problem with that, just listen to actual recordings of sealife and try and imitate that instead of listening to other acts and going off of them

It's kind of hard not to make cute sounds and not have some overlap. Coos, purrs, and trills could be very handy for a mersona. I'm not saying copy Raven note for note, but, like say Klingon, if it were to become widespread among performing mermaids, it could become an "industry standard".

I'm sure if it were easier, we would all be making Daryl Hannah's sounds from Splash.

[Ilyena]

I'd just like to add my 2 cents worth. Besides all the other wonderful comments, I'd like to add it's nice how clean her tank water is. From the video on the other page where the other mermaids water was murky, I thinks it's much better for visual effects rather than all the detail only to be seen near the front of the tank.

[Echidna]

It's kind of hard not to make cute sounds and not have some overlap.

what Aziara and the others pointed out.
A tank is a very limited space. And the "dolphiny" sounds a human can produce are also very limited.

If you've ever composed music, you'll find that somewhere out there, there are other songs and music you didn't even know about, that have similar tunes.
Same goes for dance moves possible in/under water.

Now, if someone copied one of my choreos movement for movement, I wouldn't be happy.
But I know that others are bound to use some of my movements, whether they know of me or not, because the things one can do have a limit.

That said, I'm glad I now know there are kind of "dibs" on making nonhuman noises as a mer,
so I can work on unique sounds that are genuinely different.

[AniaR]

well like It was said on the two pages before, it was more someone copying move for move what they do.

Anyway, perhaps we should make a diff thread for their performing cuz it's intended to be seperate than tail making. This is the merbellas thread and that's the live mermaid show

[Aziara]

I'm sure if it were easier, we would all be making Daryl Hannah's sounds from Splash.

[Mermaid Dottie]

I just read your post, Raina, about leaving your tail design a surprise. Lol, I literally said "Raina's so mean!" in a mockingly shocked voice, and my husband turned to me and went "who is?"
I think if I hadn't chuckled, he might have thought I was upset.
I think keeping us all hanging is a good idea, but you know you're gonna drive us all nuts, right?

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[AniaR]

I'm gonna drive me nuts. Lol.

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[Mermaid Kalliope]

WE MUST KNOW. Bwahaha

[MermaidAmestris]

Are there any videos of the koi tail yet? I really want to see it in action

[AniaR]

I dont know if the client received it yet

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[shimmygoddess]

Heard from Raven today (Day 208). Should see paint pics soon So excited

[Mermaid Evolet]

are you going to show us? i really would like to see your design

[Mermaid Dottie]

I'm gonna drive me nuts. Lol.

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WE MUST KNOW. Bwahaha

LOL!
I don't know if you're gonna make it, Raina. You'll probably be throwing out teasers every time she sends you pics. Not that it would be a bad thing.

[Mermaid Tasia]

Mernoises - I have made all sorts of noises since I was a kid trying to imitate other sounds. Imagine my surprise when I meet other people who can "purr", "coo" like a dove, and send out a series of dolphin-esque clicks. I have rarely met people who do them, and then with each mer video I am fearing them more and more. Instead of counting as a "rip off" I think we should consider it more of a "norm" showing that there is a related language. Variances in patterns, tones, and length adds to that.

That being responded to, I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE YOUR TAIL RAINA! I know you based yours off of Splash, but I haven't found a movie that shows the type of tail I want to go for.

I have been trying to figure out the feasible details of what I want for mine. I like the ideas I see Raven have, but I keep finding new things I want to add to make mine more unique. I am also hoping I will be able to be in her area and that she might be willing to help me get my measurements since I am concerned about a tail fitting my waist and butt at the same time! Then there is that bothersome little detail of my feet vs. the monofin sizes! I am hoping I won't end up impossible to accommodate!

[AniaR]

Raven has been doing mega updates to their facebook page There's a widget on the top now for tail pricing, top pricing, and a FAQ Hope it helps everyone out.

Also, Arella you beauty you!







and more dragon! eee

[AniaR]

and PS we seem to still be stuck on the mermish sound thing. I want to say for the 3rd time, that people doing mermish was not the issue. It was and still sadly is, people copying move for move what Raven does. Her entire act. Like people who go and watch in person all her performances and study them and then go in a tank and do move by move exactly what she does, say the same story (that they wrote for background) change their accessory costumes to look like hers, use the same music, like when I say copy, I mean like very very very copy. I think because Raven shoots so high and people see that it works, they use it as their standard instead of trying to reinvent or do something that will break the mold. I dont really like the excuse, how much can you do in a tank. Because 99% of us/you don't do anything in the tank so how would you know? It's like saying "how much can you realllly do with paint" or something. I think for a good example, look at how drastically different what Raven and mermaid melissa do. To me, it just bothers me when people copy her because the same people cozy up to her like a friend and I feel like they use her in the end. I don't blame her for being less vocal in the community. I experience the exact same thing myself and it just makes you want to throw yourself into your work and retreat away from people.

I'm really excited for the tank act I'm developing. Raven's been the only one I've discussed it with yet and after loads of research I'm 100% sure it's never been done before and I'm really excited to hopefully get to do it later this year. Raven is my biggest inspiration, but also my biggest motivation to try and be unique

In other news, I AM BEYOND EXCITED FOR MY TAIL. lol it's going to be a long long long long bunch of months.

[MerEmma]

I saw all the widgets but I'm disappointed I can't view them without a Facebook account. :P

[Arella]

I'll definitely be posting more pics to my page once I get some free time : ) with classes and stuff it's hard xD