B!TC# IT OUT!

[Merman Chatfish]

I'm getting really tired of America and all it's bullshit.
I swear, I am seriously considering moving to Canada. Idk how or when but I've already but doing some research into the extensive process of it. I hear it is NOT easy and VERY expensive and isn't just a "Okay, I'm going to live here now *poof*" kinda thing. Or maybe Australia. But I hear its also very expensive living up there. Maybe after this year of college I will see if I could transfer to either for a brief period or something. I really don't know. But I don't wish to leave my family, and I doubt they'd all be aboard a "I Think This Place Is Going To Shitz and We Should Leave Before We Find Ourselves At The Business End Of An Army Boot" train. They will just look at me with a you're crazy look as usual and just refuse to see any points I make. And I am a family guy, guys, I CANNOT leave my mother and sister behind let alone my grandmothers especially when I know myself that I am, essentially, running in fear.
I just really need/want to get away. I know everything and everyone is not bad here. I LOVE the city I live in and always said years ago I never wanted to even travel but now here I am plotting to hightail it out as quickly as I can. Idk. I just don't wish to be the next news headline. It's all just bullshit. Humans are bullshit. I'm a potato now.

QUESTION: Has anyone here actually moved to Canada or Australia from America, permanently? Would you recommend? Or should I just shut my gill holes and deal? Maybe I'm just being stupid. And paranoid.

Which of America's bullshit? The "Lets kick out all the immigrants ignoring the fact we are", the "we are the best country in the world", the "best way to prevent more shootings is more guns" (Australia is a good example of how that is stupid), the "Donald Trump should be president", the "lets force our religion on other people" and its off shoot "we believe the same religion but YOU ARE WRONG!", the 80% of the US Congress is male even though over half of the US general population is female, the people making laws about women are mostly men (including ones who think rape doesn't exist), where women make 77¢ for every dollar that men make, when a professional athlete makes millions a game while teachers have to buy school supplies out of their own pocket, about 1% of people cause 99.9% of the problems listed above and this is what foreign countries see of us, where employers and colleges need rules about hiring minority employees, where a 2.0 GPA student receives a full scholarship for playing sports when a 4.0 student has to work at a fast-food place because they never played sports and never got a scholarship, where you can become president without having a majority of the vote (5 times) or even 50% of the vote (18 of 47 recorded elections), pretty much every large corporation...and yes I know I missed a few.

Sorry people I was born to parents who live in the US...I personally have no say. Not going to say the pledge of allegiance

[SeaMansa]

Which of America's bullshit? The "Lets kick out all the immigrants ignoring the fact we are", the "we are the best country in the world", the "best way to prevent more shootings is more guns" (Australia is a good example of how that is stupid), the "Donald Trump should be president", the "lets force our religion on other people" and its off shoot "we believe the same religion but YOU ARE WRONG!", the 80% of the US Congress is male even though over half of the US general population is female, the people making laws about women are mostly men (including ones who think rape doesn't exist), where women make 77¢ for every dollar that men make, when a professional athlete makes millions a game while teachers have to buy school supplies out of their own pocket, about 1% of people cause 99.9% of the problems listed above and this is what foreign countries see of us, where employers and colleges need rules about hiring minority employees, where a 2.0 GPA student receives a full scholarship for playing sports when a 4.0 student has to work at a fast-food place because they never played sports and never got a scholarship, where you can become president without having a majority of the vote (5 times) or even 50% of the vote (18 of 47 recorded elections), pretty much every large corporation...and yes I know I missed a few.

Sorry people I was born to parents who live in the US...I personally have no say. Not going to say the pledge of allegiance

ALL OF THE ABOVE, MY MER-BRETHREN

[Sabrina the Selkie]

Agreed.
*grumbles*

I just had a very nice conversation about the racial achievement gap in American schools. Our school is getting payed to host a huge documentary on it, but they're going about it wrong, so NOTHING good will come of it. Literally just a waste of time and money because they're too cheep to do it right I.e. greater numbers of followed students, from all of the racial enclaves at the school, over multiple classes, say twenty years worth.

But nope, six kids, white and black only, from only among this year's Freshmen, with giant cameras everywhere so of course all of the teachers will be on their best behavior and none of the racist SHIT I've seen over the years will get caught on film and it will look like our idyllic little progressive suburb has no problems, despite how much our racist crap gets on national news.

Literally. "I don't feel comfortable talking about race with people who don't look like me" - quote, my principal upon excluding white kids from a Black Lives Matter Assembly. And not just white kids. Plenty of light skinned black kids got turned away at the door because the people manning it assumed they were white. That was last year.

My freshman year? "And to all the POCs in the room, don't be violent!" - an anti violence assemlist we hired back when fist fights were a regular occurrence in our hallways. Those were always a pain in the ass to dodge. I have a talent for getting caught in the crossfire of those. Except I spent five years studying martial arts, so even though I stopped five years ago, I have hair trigger reflexes that mean what ever boy falls into me usually gets flung to the other side of the hall by me.

Luckily we all decided as a hive mind that the racist anti-violence assemblies were too much trouble to sit through, so the fist fights largely stopped after that year. I actually told off the principal in front of a third of my class during that period.

I was sick of his faulty reasoning, so I corrected it with real logic and debunked every point he had made the entire assembly and backed up my argument with evidence that pointed to vast incompetence on his part and how he was just making matters worse. I wouldn't have been nearly so harsh had he not referred to me as "young man" when calling on my raised hand.

People still talk about that. "Remember when Sabrina just RIPPED into the principal back in Freshman year?" is a fairly common statement when the class of 2016 complains about him. )


Sorry, I'm also largely annoyed because of the flood lights now illuminating the tennis courts. Because people totally play tennis at night. The courts are packed at full dark! And why would Astronomy Club not appreciate being unable to see the stars at their designated meeting place?

I was at astronomy club when I had the discussion on the documentary, so all of my annoyances are at a head right now.

[Sabrina the Selkie]

And also, Chatfish. Consider yourself added to my pantheon of awesome people who deserve to be worshipped as gods.

[Mermaid Alea]

Which of America's bullshit? The "Lets kick out all the immigrants ignoring the fact we are", the "we are the best country in the world", the "best way to prevent more shootings is more guns" (Australia is a good example of how that is stupid), the "Donald Trump should be president", the "lets force our religion on other people" and its off shoot "we believe the same religion but YOU ARE WRONG!", the 80% of the US Congress is male even though over half of the US general population is female, the people making laws about women are mostly men (including ones who think rape doesn't exist), where women make 77¢ for every dollar that men make, when a professional athlete makes millions a game while teachers have to buy school supplies out of their own pocket, about 1% of people cause 99.9% of the problems listed above and this is what foreign countries see of us, where employers and colleges need rules about hiring minority employees, where a 2.0 GPA student receives a full scholarship for playing sports when a 4.0 student has to work at a fast-food place because they never played sports and never got a scholarship, where you can become president without having a majority of the vote (5 times) or even 50% of the vote (18 of 47 recorded elections), pretty much every large corporation...and yes I know I missed a few.

Sorry people I was born to parents who live in the US...I personally have no say. Not going to say the pledge of allegiance

I love the USA!
It isn't about kicking out immigrants, it is about kicking out illegals. There are plenty of wonderful, honest people who have gotten into the US the correct way and who are living well and there is no issue with them. The ILLEGAL immigrants are coming over the wrong way, and unfortunately it usually is bad people who are coming over illegally. They commit crimes and they get off scot free. They are in some weird limbo where they get to do just about whatever they want. It is creating a lot of issues. You do have to have a system for people coming into the country. I don't know if we are the best country, but hey, it is good to be patriotic. I am proud to be an American, a Native American in fact. Yes, once upon a time my ancestor's land was taken but I don't hold a grudge. That was the past. Every culture has something bad in their history. Have you ever handled and shot a gun before? Guns don't kill people, people kill people. If you take away guns people will just find another way to kill people or they will obtain guns illegally. The whole idea of women being unequal to men isn't that big of a deal everyone is making it to be. There are places in this world far worse than the US when it comes to men & women inequality. Places where women are bought and sold like dogs and have no value but to produce many children. Here in the US, women have just as much of an opportunity as men. The only issue I have had so far was just at church. Our church is slowly letting women do more and it is because of the old people that we don't just change right away. This kind of change takes some time. That is the only one that disappoints me, but really, I do not feel unequal because I am a girl. I work hard and I can be stronger than a guy in a lot of ways and I am proud of myself. Yes, I believe that the emphasis on sports is pretty crazy, but how amazing is it that just playing sports you can make a lot of money? As for teachers, which is something I have considered being, they get tons of vacation time! A whole summer off! They get so many wonderful benefits! Sure they don't make millions, but they certainly do have a nice job! I don't see why a 4.0 student could not get a scholarship. I have never been on a sports team and in high school I was able to get a bright futures scholarship to college because I had good grades and I had made sure I did everything I needed to get the scholarship. I am sure a 4.0 student could get a scholarship especially if they applied for some! My friends have all gotten pail grants that pay for them to go to college. I have watched a friend who comes from a low income family be able to go to college fully paid for with a pail grant and blow off all his classes and not show up for his finals because he didn't have the motivation. At least he was able to have such a great opportunity and I am certain he was not a 4.0 student.

Sorry guys, but I just don't get where you are coming from. Yes, there are issues with America, but there are issues with every country. And I am not trying to upset you guys, but I just couldn't not say something. I have been really curious about why people who don't like America don't just leave. I am not trying to say that in a mean way, but I am just saying. Anyways, that is what I think, and you can think what you want to think, because Amurica!

[Mermaid Momo]

okay don't take this the wrong way... but I can't tell if you're trolling or not..

[Mermaid Mystery]

I agree with Momo..

[SeaMansa]

I literally got out of bed.... turned on my computer.... prepared a whole rant.... but I'm just like nah. I will not even go there. I get enough of this on social media (especially the dreaded "If you don't like it here, go back to Africa" which is along the same vein as what was said here) but ya know what, I'm too tired for it.
I respectfully chose to take a different stance on this topic. And shall leave it at that. Back to regular scheduled mermaid.... ranting... and things.

[Cordelia]

Uh... what?

This is where I break out my starbucks, wave some perfectly manicured nails, and say: I can't even.

I have noticed an up-tick in the amount of share sites and memes on facebook that I have had to block. Some people are getting pretty close to being blocked as well. Yay, political season. <--- definite sarcasm.

[Merman Chatfish]

And also, Chatfish. Consider yourself added to my pantheon of awesome people who deserve to be worshipped as gods.

Thanks but I have no interest in being worshipped...don't have a big enough ego.

okay don't take this the wrong way... but I can't tell if you're trolling or not..

Who?

[Celaeno]

First off, people aren't illegal, they're undocumented.
People don't "just leave" because it is extremely expensive and difficult to do so.
Australia banned guns after mass shootings and there was a marked decrease in gun-related crime and deaths, not an explosion of illegal firearms. At the very least guns should be as regulated as cars, you should have to prove proficiency with the firearm just like you have to prove proficiency with a car before you can have a license.
It's great you don't feel marginalized due to your gender, but that is no reason to erase the very real struggles and oppression that others face. Women do not have the same opportunities in the U.S. that men do, and human trafficking and sex slavery are huge problems in the U.S.
No, there are not enough scholarships and grants for everyone who works hard to be able to afford college and university.
Teachers don't get the summers "off", because of low wages many must work through the summer and part-time during the school year at other jobs to make ends meet, plus a lot of teachers are on some sort of assistance program due to low income.

Do some digging, do some research into these issues, don't just rely on what you observe in your immediate vicinity to inform you. Most of these problems don't get mainstream coverage and people don't see them day-to-day.

[Mermaid Lunette]

First off, people aren't illegal, they're undocumented.
People don't "just leave" because it is extremely expensive and difficult to do so.
Australia banned guns after mass shootings and there was a marked decrease in gun-related crime and deaths, not an explosion of illegal firearms. At the very least guns should be as regulated as cars, you should have to prove proficiency with the firearm just like you have to prove proficiency with a car before you can have a license.
It's great you don't feel marginalized due to your gender, but that is no reason to erase the very real struggles and oppression that others face. Women do not have the same opportunities in the U.S. that men do, and human trafficking and sex slavery are huge problems in the U.S.
No, there are not enough scholarships and grants for everyone who works hard to be able to afford college and university.
Teachers don't get the summers "off", because of low wages many must work through the summer and part-time during the school year at other jobs to make ends meet, plus a lot of teachers are on some sort of assistance program due to low income.

Do some digging, do some research into these issues, don't just rely on what you observe in your immediate vicinity to inform you. Most of these problems don't get mainstream coverage and people don't see them day-to-day.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Merman Chatfish]

First off, people aren't illegal, they're undocumented.
People don't "just leave" because it is extremely expensive and difficult to do so.
Australia banned guns after mass shootings and there was a marked decrease in gun-related crime and deaths, not an explosion of illegal firearms. At the very least guns should be as regulated as cars, you should have to prove proficiency with the firearm just like you have to prove proficiency with a car before you can have a license.
It's great you don't feel marginalized due to your gender, but that is no reason to erase the very real struggles and oppression that others face. Women do not have the same opportunities in the U.S. that men do, and human trafficking and sex slavery are huge problems in the U.S.
No, there are not enough scholarships and grants for everyone who works hard to be able to afford college and university.
Teachers don't get the summers "off", because of low wages many must work through the summer and part-time during the school year at other jobs to make ends meet, plus a lot of teachers are on some sort of assistance program due to low income.

Do some digging, do some research into these issues, don't just rely on what you observe in your immediate vicinity to inform you. Most of these problems don't get mainstream coverage and people don't see them day-to-day.

I was fighting the urge to respond, but now that you did I want to mention a statistic I found was that first generation immigrants have a much lower crime rate than native born citizens.

[IllynReaver]

Thanks but I have no interest in being worshipped...don't have a big enough ego.



Who?

Momo was referring to Alea.

Totally agree with Celaeno on this.

[SeaMansa]

Lets all just leave it be. I wasn't intending to start a discussion of politics or the state of america or anything, just venting feelings. Everyone is entitled to think as they will about whatever such topics. We all have had different experiences and all that jazz. Forgive me if I caused unnecessary drama.
Heres a new thing ill bitch about though: I went to get a 10 piece wing.... cashier gave me a six piece.


I literally can't even.

[SummerRogue]

Wtf, I get to college, into my assigned room and they ve never heard of me. They registered me for tomorrow. Then I had a panic attack in the toilets. Im on my way home now. What the hell us wrong with me!? A tiny admin mistake shouldn't give me a full blown panic attack!
I think being at the summer camp in iowa has made me develop somekind of anxiety issue
How can I go to college tommorrow knowing I could have another panic attack infront of twenty people. Ugh im so tired now, I want to sleep for.hours. Sorry for ranting and any typos my phone is awful
I also now have a nosebleed in the train, brilliant start to the day. Its only 10am here now.

[-Annwyn-]

First off, people aren't illegal, they're undocumented.
People don't "just leave" because it is extremely expensive and difficult to do so.
Australia banned guns after mass shootings and there was a marked decrease in gun-related crime and deaths, not an explosion of illegal firearms. At the very least guns should be as regulated as cars, you should have to prove proficiency with the firearm just like you have to prove proficiency with a car before you can have a license.
It's great you don't feel marginalized due to your gender, but that is no reason to erase the very real struggles and oppression that others face. Women do not have the same opportunities in the U.S. that men do, and human trafficking and sex slavery are huge problems in the U.S.
No, there are not enough scholarships and grants for everyone who works hard to be able to afford college and university.
Teachers don't get the summers "off", because of low wages many must work through the summer and part-time during the school year at other jobs to make ends meet, plus a lot of teachers are on some sort of assistance program due to low income.

Do some digging, do some research into these issues, don't just rely on what you observe in your immediate vicinity to inform you. Most of these problems don't get mainstream coverage and people don't see them day-to-day.

After the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996, the Howard government banned semi-automatic firearms, and put a heavy restriction on all others. There was a buyback scheme when you could surrender your gun for a certain amount of money. I remember the main consensus at the time was one of "I've had my gun lying in the cupboard for decades now. I have no bloody use for it." The amount of massacres since then has been zero. Gun crimes still happen here in Australia, but it's a fraction of what it used to be and never with such high mortality rates.

The government didn't "Ban all guns". I don't see what all the hoo-har is about Americans bitching about gun control. Just do it. It's very difficult to walk into a school and stab 29 students with a knife.

[-Annwyn-]

I love the USA!
It isn't about kicking out immigrants, it is about kicking out illegals. There are plenty of wonderful, honest people who have gotten into the US the correct way and who are living well and there is no issue with them. The ILLEGAL immigrants are coming over the wrong way....

Stop. It's not illegal to seek asylum. You sound like every other Murdoch-following bigot out there.

[SeaGlass Siren]

As a Canadian... I can honestly tell you that Harper is fucking up our system with the introduction of bill c 51 (we basically lost all our rights and freedoms listed in the Canadian charter) and wants it to be like America. We're all fucked anyway. :|

[SeaGlass Siren]

Speaking of I have a related bitch!


Harper issues a mass arrest for all natives and environmentalists everytime there's a protest because he labeled them as Eco-terrorists. This bill clearly wasn't issued to prevent terrorists from coming in and bombing us, it was to gain control over the people everytime we speak out against the Harper government.