Merman Marinus SLOW Extended Tail Project

[Shaylee Moon]

Heyy Bonbon great to see u here! But no it wont be a scale sheet i just placed them together to see how they look but the tail will be with individual scales.


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Even bettttteer!!! Im such a sucker for individusl scales! Im super in love with all your sculpts too! You are doing super great!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Thanks ❤️ i cant wait to finish it to bring it to PR for our next Pod meet up your going to love it!


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[Shaylee Moon]

I bet!!!! Thats going to be mega exciting!!!!
I myself decided to start saving for full silicone. It will take a long time but I am very much decided.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

I bet!!!! Thats going to be mega exciting!!!!
I myself decided to start saving for full silicone. It will take a long time but I am very much decided.


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From who ?


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[Shaylee Moon]

I was thinking See Through Seas but im not entirely decided on a tailmaker yet


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Awe cant wait im getting a hybrid silicone caulk tail from Mazu she makes great tails and they start at 400 i got mine cause my tail will take me a while longer so i need something to swim in now lol

Edit ; this is her layered fluke [emoji7][emoji7]
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[Shaylee Moon]

Oh thats actually pretty neat looking!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Oh thats actually pretty neat looking!


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Yes she makes great tails


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[Shaylee Moon]

I just saw! And her starting price isnt bad for an on the budget mer. Maybe I'll consider her tails before stepping to full silicone. Around how heavy would you say the tail from her is?


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[Marinus Mortimer]

I just saw! And her starting price isnt bad for an on the budget mer. Maybe I'll consider her tails before stepping to full silicone. Around how heavy would you say the tail from her is?


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I asked her and her answer was 10-15 lbs


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[Shaylee Moon]

And the drainage system? Do you know anything on it? BecAuse my current tail I absolutely love but it give me quite a bit of drag when swimming


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[Marinus Mortimer]

And the drainage system? Do you know anything on it? BecAuse my current tail I absolutely love but it give me quite a bit of drag when swimming


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Yes when she seals the fluke she leaves drainage channels open along the fin


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[Shaylee Moon]

Wait she uses a neoprene base? Do you have any idea how thick the base is?


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Wait she uses a neoprene base? Do you have any idea how thick the base is?


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Its neoprene scuba knit so its thick but not rubbery


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[Shaylee Moon]

Im messaging her on etsy for other doubts and pricing info now


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Im glad [emoji16] you wont regret it


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[Slim]

She does really great with her tails. And they look great in the springs :D


Im messaging her on etsy for other doubts and pricing info now


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[Shaylee Moon]

She does really great with her tails. And they look great in the springs :D

She also seems to answer very fast! I love that!


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[Slim]

This was a double post so this I'm editing this so there isn't a repeat post.

[Slim]

She good at what she does and she knows her limits. That what makes her so great. She also a gamer at heart so she one of the most human mermaids out there :)

[Shaylee Moon]

Exciting! I spoke with her and I believe maybe in a few months I can place an order since my birthday is soon I'll have a good advantage with family member birthday money! Now I will hopefully have a tail too for when Marinus visits!


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[Slim]

Exciting! I spoke with her and I believe maybe in a few months I can place an order since my birthday is soon I'll have a good advantage with family member birthday money! Now I will hopefully have a tail too for when Marinus visits!


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Come to Florida if you both get the chance


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[Shaylee Moon]

I do plan to actually! But im not sure I'll be able to soon. I wanted to in nov but that might not be possible. Im hoping for a miracle though!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

She also seems to answer very fast! I love that!


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Yeah communication with her was great all throughout the design process she's awesome


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[merwandering]

Wow I really love the scales! This will be an awesome tail.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Wow I really love the scales! This will be an awesome tail.

Thanks im glad you like them! [emoji847][emoji229][emoji225]


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Ill be making my leg double sometime this week and filling it with expansion spray foam i know already I've seen a few mers put too much ill do it in small batches until it's filled im also going to put a pipe through it so that i can either make a stand for it or hang them up with hooks from the ceiling well see.


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[PearlieMae]

The expanding foam has a tendency to expand too much at first, then the next day, you'll find it has contracted a lot as well. Experiment with a small prototype, so you can see the coeffient of expansion and calculate from there.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Ill test it thanks PearlieMae i hadn't thought of that!


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[merwandering]

i literally stabbed my dtd with a kitchen knife in a rage after expanding foam repeatedly ruined it. I don't know if a coefficient would have helped. That stuff is the polymer incarnation of the devil himself. Please just don't.

[Marinus Mortimer]

i literally stabbed my dtd with a kitchen knife in a rage after expanding foam repeatedly ruined it. I don't know if a coefficient would have helped. That stuff is the polymer incarnation of the devil himself. Please just don't.

Im going to try once if i fail I'll consider another rout


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[merwandering]

I'm sure it will work out. I have no doubt that you, and by all means Pearlie Mae, could definitely make great things of expanding foam:) my problems with using materials have many layers, definitely one of them being my lack of both of your mantras. 'Slow' and 'test test test!!' Do not come naturally to me. I'm working on it but- it's a process, lol. Good luck!!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Yeah its definitely a matter of patience for these things i my self am not so good at it usually i just walk away for a little while to relax and not smash everything when it doesn't look how i want it to.
I made two leg duck tape dummy one for mazu and one for me i bought 4 big tape rolls so i had plenty of tape ill be getting the foam sometime this week ill also make a little dummy of my feet to experiment on first before i go for the big one im sure its about applying small amounts very small and wait at least 24 hours between applications so like PearlieMae said it can have time to shrink so i can get it right but yes test test test


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[merwandering]

Yeah in terms of smashing everything when it doesn't work out, I mean...don't knock it til you've tried it. Lol
in seriousness you are doing an amazing piece and I look forward to seeing it come together. I love your sculpts

[Marinus Mortimer]

Aweeee thanks Merwandering that means a lot coming from an amazing artist such as your self :swoon:

Also i found this while searching the forum its a great idea for filling the leg mold and it worked great in the video i might try this foam before i try the troublesome spray foam thanks a lot for the great advice guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JJYFSCpj9s


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[Marinus Mortimer]

This is also a good way to keep the spray foam from warping the mold although he did put a bit two much at the beginning i would have worked in layers of small amounts allowing each "batch" to cure completely


https://youtu.be/UybcX1un5LM


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[Ashton]

I have found that the foam stuff does not for some reason work well when making a body double. It tends to distort the form.

[Mermaid Fenicia]

I use bubble-wrap and other packing materials to stuff my tape-double, as it's light weight.
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[Marinus Mortimer]

I have found that the foam stuff does not for some reason work well when making a body double. It tends to distort the form.

The liquid stuff? What happened in your experiment ? The reason im looking for a way to fill it so that it stays stiff cause on top of the leg double i will be sculpting the tail body on top if it so i need it to hold its shape under the continuous pressing and sculpting on top of it you know so if the fence post stuff is a bust ill be going back to the spray foam idea ill do it slowly allowing each batch of foam to rise and fall like dough ill also follow the bald guys instructions and get the one with the lowest expansion rate that way ill kind of have a bit more control, im doing this as an alternative to spending a butt load of money on plaster bandages to mold my legs and then the resin plus fiber glass to make the cast that for me is a whole new ball game as ive never experimented with resins before so ill try my damm hardest to make this successful if all else fails ill invest in the above... wish me luck https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/1a68bc2304159a3f0405b955b5e93475.jpg


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[Trident True]

The liquid stuff? What happened in your experiment ? The reason im looking for a way to fill it so that it stays stiff cause on top of the leg double i will be sculpting the tail body on top if it so i need it to hold its shape under the continuous pressing and sculpting on top of it you know so if the fence post stuff is a bust ill be going back to the spray foam idea ill do it slowly allowing each batch of foam to rise and fall like dough ill also follow the bald guys instructions and get the one with the lowest expansion rate that way ill kind of have a bit more control, im doing this as an alternative to spending a butt load of money on plaster bandages to mold my legs and then the resin plus fiber glass to make the cast that for me is a whole new ball game as ive never experimented with resins before so ill try my damm hardest to make this successful if all else fails ill invest in the above... wish me luck https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/1a68bc2304159a3f0405b955b5e93475.jpg


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you can do exactly what you've done here but instead of using tape you use fiberglass that is activated by water. (the type they use in hospitals when you break your arm. then you can fill it with foam.

done it, works well.

[Marinus Mortimer]

you can do exactly what you've done here but instead of using tape you use fiberglass that is activated by water. (the type they use in hospitals when you break your arm. then you can fill it with foam.

done it, works well.

Thats a great idea Trident! Ill check if the have those when i go to homedepot for the spray foam.


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[Trident True]

you may not be able to find them at home depot as they are medical, however they could be ordered online. ebay.

[Marinus Mortimer]

I found they have something similar or the same used to seal broken pipes and stuff

Not this one exactly but something like it could work?
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[Trident True]

Ok just had a look at the brand. as it didn't state it was fiberglass. yes this will work just fine

couple of things to remember. with water activated fiberglass you usually can only use it once. meaning once air gets to it, it will harden. found this out BTW. so when you wrap your legs, wrap in ONLY one layer otherwise you won't be able to cut yourself out. cut STRAIGHT down the centre of your legs (FRONT) I find this the best way as it make it easier to seam.

line the seam up, wrap some twine around the model and tie up gently. this will keep the model from dis-forming when you are putting in your foam. I found that you only need a bit as it expands 2X the original size.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Ok just had a look at the brand. as it didn't state it was fiberglass. yes this will work just fine

couple of things to remember. with water activated fiberglass you usually can only use it once. meaning once air gets to it, it will harden. found this out BTW. so when you wrap your legs, wrap in ONLY one layer otherwise you won't be able to cut yourself out. cut STRAIGHT down the centre of your legs (FRONT) I find this the best way as it make it easier to seam.

line the seam up, wrap some twine around the model and tie up gently. this will keep the model from dis-forming when you are putting in your foam. I found that you only need a bit as it expands 2X the original size.

Ok [emoji1419], i was thinking that instead of closing it completely i would leave a line about one mm wide, open so that i can slip out, a good example of this is shown in the head mold video above where the guy leaves an open line down the back in order to liberate his head then seals it up after with more plaster bandages in my case it would be this fiberglass tape, i think that could work? Cause i dont trust no electric saw cutting anywhere near the family gems [emoji184] lol. And about the dis-forming of the mold ill be practicing with the foam on the tape dummy first cause im lazy if it works I'll probably keep it and store the fiberglass i get for another occasion cause all the kelp i got is my mom and she may not be so accurate especially with something like fiberglass lol.
Thanks for the advice Trident !

[Trident True]

One layer of fiberglass bandage is easy to cut with a pair of scissors. its up to you what you desire to do

[Marinus Mortimer]

One layer of fiberglass bandage is easy to cut with a pair of scissors. its up to you what you desire to do

Really? Nice then lol i figured it would me solid


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Exciting! I spoke with her and I believe maybe in a few months I can place an order since my birthday is soon I'll have a good advantage with family member birthday money! Now I will hopefully have a tail too for when Marinus visits!


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Sorry for not seeing this earlier!
Yasss Shy whe will be Slaying !
Summer 2018 will be Debut...


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[Trident True]

Really? Nice then lol i figured it would me solid


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[Marinus Mortimer]

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Thats awesome thanks for the drawing!


Guys I've begun detailing the fluke in a few weeks ill be finished! With this sculpting chapter.
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[Marinus Mortimer]

Hadn't realized how much alike my new outline matched up with my old outline used for my fluke now i wanna make the bottom more round lol...
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[Trident True]

you can just keep on going and going until you get it to perfection..... the thing is you have to draw the line somewhere. it looks fine as it is. it's going to be interesting to watch your ideas on your extension. fortunately i will be working on mine tomorrow, funds get it the way of me completing it and LIFE.

[Marinus Mortimer]

you can just keep on going and going until you get it to perfection..... the thing is you have to draw the line somewhere. it looks fine as it is. it's going to be interesting to watch your ideas on your extension. fortunately i will be working on mine tomorrow, funds get it the way of me completing it and LIFE.

I know if perfection is what i seek ill never finish! Yessss once i finish this sculpting chapter ill be buying the lexan for the extension because ill need to know how much ill hace to sculpt for my tail body im thinking it wont be too long of an extension just about 9-10 inches from the back of my feet to fluke base or tail end. I cant wait to see your updates bro and i know life can be a bitch sometimes but she is also rewarding to those who persevere!


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[Trident True]

will see what happens with my extension, as there is a lot i'm thinking about.

[Marinus Mortimer]

will see what happens with my extension, as there is a lot i'm thinking about.

Hope all goes well brother.


Well theres a sight chance ill be moving soon so im multitasking with finishing my fluke sculpt and assembling and painting my fabric tail for the meet up and mermaid parade on Coney Island this June or is it June already? Who knows, any how this is the first area to me finished im extremely happy at how it turned out as it was difficult using the plastic im a big area but my ingenuity helped me out.

Heres the result...
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[Lili]

So beautiful :O

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[Marinus Mortimer]

So beautiful :O

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Thanks Lili ❤️


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Its so hard to keep a steady hand while making the long lines so i listen to Native American Flute music its very soothing.

Here's another picture but of the whole line so yall can see the imperfections that i am trying to ignore... : proceeds to pull my go-tee off my face:

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Steady progress 2hrs of work for just to sections im thinking of outlining then then going over them with the plastic to make smoother at the end i believe it will save me some time i hope... 🤞 [emoji1434] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/bc89a4529eaa05ecf60bb13a8cbb4714.jpg


Also sorry not sorry for all the images lol i love documenting my progress, especially for future self reference...


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[LeeniusUnicorn]

It's looking great, I like lots of pictures so keep them coming. :D No worries about photo overloading, it's a good thing when making big projects like this. I could share photos of when I sculpted a bust years ago :/ ... It's helpful for when and if you ever have to redo it, you have photo documentation of what you did to help.
As for imperfections you are trying to ignore... Only you will ever know they are there, I don't think anyone else will ever notice. It is looking beautiful!

[Hydra1337]

Nice job on the fluke detailing.

[.MermaidSophia.]

what imperfections?!

[Marinus Mortimer]

It's looking great, I like lots of pictures so keep them coming. :D No worries about photo overloading, it's a good thing when making big projects like this. I could share photos of when I sculpted a bust years ago :/ ... It's helpful for when and if you ever have to redo it, you have photo documentation of what you did to help.
As for imperfections you are trying to ignore... Only you will ever know they are there, I don't think anyone else will ever notice. It is looking beautiful!

Thanks a lot Lee, i know right i love threads full of pictures it helps when ur a visual learner like myself also I like to keep track of myself.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Nice job on the fluke detailing.

Thanks Hydra [emoji4]









what imperfections?!

That made my day thank u [emoji1434]


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

Steady progress 2hrs of work for just to sections im thinking of outlining then then going over them with the plastic to make smoother at the end i believe it will save me some time i hope... 🤞 [emoji1434] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/bc89a4529eaa05ecf60bb13a8cbb4714.jpg


Also sorry not sorry for all the images lol i love documenting my progress, especially for future self reference...


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This is going to be one of the most amazing tails ever!
Keep on in this way because your tail is just breaking now, I can't even image how much beautiful it will be once finished 😍
Have you already started thinking about how to make the body of the tail?

[Marinus Mortimer]

This is going to be one of the most amazing tails ever!
Keep on in this way because your tail is just breaking now, I can't even image how much beautiful it will be once finished [emoji7]
Have you already started thinking about how to make the body of the tail?

Thank you so much [emoji4] yes im trying to make the pest tail i can, and about the tail body im going to sculpt it on top of a mold of my legs to give it the right thickness like the Mako Tails. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/9a51c01884462c85ef184172088455ad.jpg


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

Thank you so much [emoji4] yes im trying to make the pest tail i can, and about the tail body im going to sculpt it on top of a mold of my legs to give it the right thickness like the Mako Tails. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/9a51c01884462c85ef184172088455ad.jpg


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The completed fluke is just blow minding!����

To sculpt the scales is the most challenging part of a tail in my opinion, it takes really a lot of time and your back feels always terrible after a whole day of sculpting! But I'm sure your scales will be amazing if they are going to look like the one you already posted on your page ��

[Marinus Mortimer]

The completed fluke is just blow minding!����

To sculpt the scales is the most challenging part of a tail in my opinion, it takes really a lot of time and your back feels always terrible after a whole day of sculpting! But I'm sure your scales will be amazing if they are going to look like the one you already posted on your page ��

The fluke is not complete yet but thanks ❤️

Yes the scales are very tedious and time consuming i finished the biggest size of 7 different scale sizes i got about 65 different scales left to detail. But basically this is how they will look like it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/633aa70b3dd50130c1a8494e41dd5cbe.jpg


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[moomer]

Dude. I have been following​ your thread for a while now.
Can I just say 'wow'.
I cannot wait to see the final fluke. The sculpt is just divine. It is so striking in its 'simplicity'.
I'm excited for you to keep going!! :D

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Dude. I have been following​ your thread for a while now.
Can I just say 'wow'.
I cannot wait to see the final fluke. The sculpt is just divine. It is so striking in its 'simplicity'.
I'm excited for you to keep going!! :D

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Thanks Moomer it means a lot the see that my hard work is appreciated by others ill most likely be done by the end of this week as i keep alternating between sculpting and painting a fabric tail.


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

The fluke is not complete yet but thanks ❤️

Yes the scales are very tedious and time consuming i finished the biggest size of 7 different scale sizes i got about 65 different scales left to detail. But basically this is how they will look like it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/633aa70b3dd50130c1a8494e41dd5cbe.jpg


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Yes I made each scale different too even if it's not that visible and that was the part that took the longest to be completed!
I was thinking to make a scale sheet too but I am not a fan of them.

Yes I remember that scale shape it's awesome!
Again this tail is going to be a fantastic piece of art!

[Trident True]

Thank you so much [emoji4] yes im trying to make the pest tail i can, and about the tail body im going to sculpt it on top of a mold of my legs to give it the right thickness like the Mako Tails. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170601/9a51c01884462c85ef184172088455ad.jpg


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IMPRESSIVE :swoon::cheerleader: your detail is simply amazing and i can say that when it comes to perfection we are pretty much the same. its got to be perfect with NO flaws. well..... to the human eye anyways.

[Marinus Mortimer]

IMPRESSIVE :swoon::cheerleader: your detail is simply amazing and i can say that when it comes to perfection we are pretty much the same. its got to be perfect with NO flaws. well..... to the human eye anyways.

Yes sir if i find anything wrong i usually find myself re smoothing a whole are more than once lol cant wait to show everyone the finished sculpt.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

A bit more done today, close up picture ...

I may have already asked this but im questioning weather to add the scales to the top of the mold or not, please give me some feedback!
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[Mermaid_Izzy]

I posted before, I didn't add them to mine because I wanted everything the be individual scaled. However, smaller scales are a pain to pin down, but if you aren't getting your scales any smaller than an inch or 3/4th an inch, it shouldn't be an issue.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

I posted before, I didn't add them to mine because I wanted everything the be individual scaled. However, smaller scales are a pain to pin down, but if you aren't getting your scales any smaller than an inch or 3/4th an inch, it shouldn't be an issue.


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Ight thanks izzy i wont do the small scales on, ill leave them for the individual scaling later down the road i did start sculpting super teeny small scales for the first row of scales those are going to be hard to mold so ill add those and leave the other 7 scale sizes for the latter.


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[.MermaidSophia.]

A bit more done today, close up picture ...

I may have already asked this but im questioning weather to add the scales to the top of the mold or not, please give me some feedback!
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I think it's absolutely gorgeous the way it is now. On most tails (and in real fish) the scales seem to stop at the fluke and it's just smooth spines going down it, and idk the simplicity of that is just really pretty. It allows for intricate details in other areas without making the tail look too busy.
Not sure if that was what you meant by "the top" but that's my two cents!

[Marinus Mortimer]

I think it's absolutely gorgeous the way it is now. On most tails (and in real fish) the scales seem to stop at the fluke and it's just smooth spines going down it, and idk the simplicity of that is just really pretty. It allows for intricate details in other areas without making the tail look too busy.
Not sure if that was what you meant by "the top" but that's my two cents!

Thank you for the appreciation Sophy your feed back is great!
No what i meant by the top is as you said where the scales stop and fluke begins like the picture bellow of a finfolk fluke sculpt...
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[.MermaidSophia.]

Thank you for the appreciation Sophy your feed back is great!
No what i meant by the top is as you said where the scales stop and fluke begins like the picture bellow of a finfolk fluke sculpt...
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Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ooooh yes I absolutely love those kinds of tiny details :swoon: Just having scales on the fluke part itself is gorgeous. But also one of the things that differs a really high quality tail from others are the tiny scales that fade out into the fluke. If you've got the time, yes!! Go for it!

I don't even have gorgeous scales like the ones you've made, the ones I'm making are simple circles but I definitely want to add the tiny "fade out" scales to the fluke. They just give it such a flawless smooth look.

[Marinus Mortimer]

ooooh yes I absolutely love those kinds of tiny details :swoon: Just having scales on the fluke part itself is gorgeous. But also one of the things that differs a really high quality tail from others are the tiny scales that fade out into the fluke. If you've got the time, yes!! Go for it!

I don't even have gorgeous scales like the ones you've made, the ones I'm making are simple circles but I definitely want to add the tiny "fade out" scales to the fluke. They just give it such a flawless smooth look.

Yeah i know what you mean! Simple circles make beautiful scales just as any detailed scale!


Here are my 2 smallest scale sizes and the second largest.

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[Keiris]

Your detail is amazing Marinus!

[.MermaidSophia.]

Yeah i know what you mean! Simple circles make beautiful scales just as any detailed scale!


Here are my 2 smallest scale sizes and the second largest.

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Those are going to look amazing :jawdrop: Are you going to make any smaller sizes? Because that one is insanely small already... Also unrelated question but when do you think the tail is going to start coming together? I've been following this thread for months and its killing me I'm so excited to see the final result :cry:

Yes im going to make one size smaller. About assembly, im trying to have the tail finished before winter starts again, but i still have to sculpt the Tail itself so thats a big big sculpt thats going to take a little while...


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Your detail is amazing Marinus!

Thank you so much K. Lmao every time you comment on my thread i have a fangirl moment!
Like :
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[Mermaid_Izzy]

Thank you so much K. Lmao every time you comment on my thread i have a fangirl moment!
Like :
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I think we can all agree that your project never seizes to amaze us. I can't wait to see you master the extension.


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[Keiris]

Thank you so much K. Lmao every time you comment on my thread i have a fangirl moment!
Like :
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LOL! Why I am very flattered, Marinus. Keep up the GREAT work. Can't wait to see the finished piece!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Hello everyone who reads this thread, thanks for sharing this adventure with me! Ive made a discovery looking through pictures of BTS Mako Mermaids, what i discovered was hoe they dropped kilos from their H2O to their Mako Tails...

I was going to keep my discovery to myself but its always better to share with everyone!
So in the picture below you will see the crew getting one of the actresses into her tail, what i see is the crew adjusting something inside the tail and some pads that could be some type of foam or neoprene.
I came to the conclusion because ive been in the drag industry and if any of you know they get those voluptuous thighs, yes they use hand carved foam pads under a scary number of pantyhose or whatever there called, the point is that the achieve thickness and as we know the mako tails are THICK so back to the reverse engineering of the pictures, i saw the two twin looking pads and immediately recognized them as hip pads it was a light bulb moment. I remember seeing a BTS video when one of the girls mentioned how JMB FX Studios had updated their technology and their tails wight like 30 kilos when they used to weigh like 60something i figured thats the main reason for the drastic change in overall tail shape from the H2O tails to the Mako ones.

I hope yall can understand all that ill leave the pic below for yall to observe and maybe see what im trying to explain, point is its a grat way to save on silicone when making such a huge tail...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170614/4e96a3fa321721ccf385620e4caf7a81.jpg
My best guess is that they are adjusting a pad that goes in the negative space between the thickest part of the calves to the rise of the heel bump then the ones that lay outside will be but on the side of the thighs the give them that look...

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[Shaylee Moon]

T h i c c mermaids [emoji108]


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[Marinus Mortimer]

T h i c c mermaids [emoji108]


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Thick always better! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji1419]


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

Thank you very much indeed for sharing with us your intuition!
So they use pads to maintain the tail shape and hide heels clever, but not that much in my opionion because in our case when you're alone and no one can help you to adjust the pads inside the tail it's a problem I suppose.

Anyway do you have any other news about your tail?
Sorry but I'm just so curious! :lol:

[Marinus Mortimer]

Thank you very much indeed for sharing with us your intuition!
So they use pads to maintain the tail shape and hide heels clever, but not that much in my opionion because in our case when you're alone and no one can help you to adjust the pads inside the tail it's a problem I suppose.

Anyway do you have any other news about your tail?
Sorry but I'm just so curious! :lol:

I just got back home from the parade but im still in the same spot as i was before sculpting the last of my small scales and to finish the fluke.
EVERYONE remember this will be a slow moving project so it wont be finished this summer...


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Good news I got hired for a job that pays very well this will slow down this project a bit but it also accelerates the progress to save up the founds used to buy the materials which have been a lot in clay alone i also want to order a better molding material for my fluke cause as i learned the plaster sold at hobby lobby is not practical for big applications like my dorsal molds which both ended up braking so i threw them out the window literally, in essence new job, more money, faster assembly. All i have to do left is make extension prototype, sculpt the tail itself then mold the fluke scales and tail body after that assembly and paint. Wish me luck hopefully by the time i post again ill be molding the fluke and scales and sculpting the tail...


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[Azurin Luna]

That's good news ^^

Good luck with the new mold making, hopefully they will stay in one piece next time

[Marinus Mortimer]

Starting in new job on Tuesday wish me success!


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[Shaylee Moon]

Starting in new job on Tuesday wish me success!


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Good luck!!!


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

Congratulations dear and good luck! :D

[Marinus Mortimer]

Thanks guys today was my pallet jack test and i passed so im hired for now, now to keep the job, i dont know hoe many of you have aor are familiar with working in a frozen warehouse but its all about safety, right now im still in the "training" stage so any little accident will get me fired but im pretty sure il be good.

Now for more good news we finally got an apartment and are moving out of the shelter tomorrow if tomorrow is Friday lol i dont count time, so seance i never got a chance to buy the materials for proper molding without risking it cracking with the cheap plaster i got, in short i cut the sculpt in halve because its 1: too heavy to lift in one piece without damaging the surface & 2: because its too wide to go though the door if i was to somehow lift it and not having it break from bad weight distribution so yeah i cut off the top part that connects fluke and tail and cut it staigt down the middle ridge the details are untouched for now but i do expect some damage during the move what i dont want is to start all over from scratch again this way i can just fit the pieces back together and smooth out the areas the were cut;

Sorry for the loooong explanation but i like for the people who follow this adventure to be aware of every step in my journey, thanks to those who've been here seance the beginning once i start selling when i do ill have an offer 50% off the first person to inquire and is ready to order so if you are an impractical Mer like myself and dont care about the hazards of having one of these tails stay in touch! Cause this job will make this journeya whole lot faster !


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Collecting funds for good molding materials from Smooth On is going well, also stocking up on clay for the big tail sculpt, dont know if i said beforehand but the majority of my plaster molds were shattered during the move due to horrible handling, unfortunately i was working the day of the move so i wasn't the one to transfer them... Regardless of the damage to a years worth of work im happy im super spiritual most of the time so i feel if those elements of creation were destroyed they were never there so now is a new chance to do them right;

For those following my progress I thank you and apologize for the wait but just a little longer and ill have the money to buy everything at once and finish, im doing it this way cause previously i was creating and buying what i needed i realized if i have all the materials available then i can just continue without having to wait for money to buy more materials.


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[Shaylee Moon]

What materials will you be using now for the molding?


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

Don't worry take your time, it's important that you feel completely satisfied with your work :)

[Marinus Mortimer]

Don't worry take your time, it's important that you feel completely satisfied with your work :)

Absolutely I've changed the design more times that i can count [emoji23] .



What materials will you be using now for the molding?


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Shell shock from smooth on, after reading through their molding materials i decided that would work best for me!


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[Shaylee Moon]

Absolutely I've changed the design more times that i can count [emoji23] .




Shell shock from smooth on, after reading through their molding materials i decided that would work best for me!


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Let me know how it goes with shell shock because I wanted to use plaster as well but Im also afraid of molds breaking and whatnot


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Let me know how it goes with shell shock because I wanted to use plaster as well but Im also afraid of molds breaking and whatnot


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Ill send you a detailed report once its done!

For now im going to do a damege report with pictures.
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Withe the damage done to the fluke I've decided to do it anew yet again i will salvage most of this fluke to its not a complete loss...

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The new version will feature some leafy things at the ends;


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[Astridia]

oOOH well this was an interesting read, certainly going to check in and see how this goes!

[Marinus Mortimer]

oOOH well this was an interesting read, certainly going to check in and see how this goes!

Please stay tooned for more. Re sculpting starts today cause i have the day off!

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[Rebela Hunter]

What inspired the leafy bits on the fluke tips, if I may ask, Mortimer?
They look like they'll be gorgeous!!!
<3

[Marinus Mortimer]

What inspired the leafy bits on the fluke tips, if I may ask, Mortimer?
They look like they'll be gorgeous!!!
<3

I figured that the fluke itself would not change much cause im set on one specific style for this tail but for some reason i visualized it with leafy tendrils at the ends also a mayor change in the color scheme, new design drawing coming soon.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Full fluke sketch.
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[Rebela Hunter]

Full fluke sketch.
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I love it !!!
<3

[Mermaid_Izzy]

Full fluke sketch.
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Cool! I can't wait to see what you come up with this time!


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[Shaylee Moon]

Full fluke sketch.
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That is going to look so gooood!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

That is going to look so gooood!


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Thanks sis ❤️[emoji1434][emoji305][emoji817]


Old on top of new for size comparison, i knew i was needing some wideness and i think i nailed it this time[emoji1434][emoji322]
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Now to sculpt...


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[moomer]

Duuuuude!! That looks magnificent!! I can't wait to see the full scuplt! [emoji7]

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Duuuuude!! That looks magnificent!! I can't wait to see the full scuplt! [emoji7]

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Thanks Moon [emoji287] Ill be updating y'all by Saturday after i take this sculpt apart and re sculpt it in the new shape i may even update sooner depends on how much i work tonight.

Update: took old fluke sculpt apart section by section to be salvaged later that way I don't need to spend much time making the whole surface leveled again ill just fit the pieces together and smooth everything out. More tomorrow crashing now.
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[Mermaid Jaffa]

Eeee! I love the leaves!

[Astridia]

Are you putting anything into the silicone to strengthen the tips? having such thin tips holding on the leafy bits may be easily damaged. if you can inlay some mesh fabric into the tips it would make it stronger ( like a small rolled shape- would strengthen it without changing the shape of the tip.)

[Marinus Mortimer]

Are you putting anything into the silicone to strengthen the tips? having such thin tips holding on the leafy bits may be easily damaged. if you can inlay some mesh fabric into the tips it would make it stronger ( like a small rolled shape- would strengthen it without changing the shape of the tip.)

Thanks a lot for the consideration Astridia but yes ill be using a type of filler that will make the silicone a lot harder than it is and both sides of the fluke will be lined with power mesh for that exact reason.


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[Astridia]

Thanks a lot for the consideration Astridia but yes ill be using a type of filler that will make the silicone a lot harder than it is and both sides of the fluke will be lined with power mesh for that exact reason.


^_^ Just a thought that came to mind, would hate for something to happen to such a cool tail.

[Mermaid Kassandra]

They made a real disaster!

But anyway I love even more the new shape, I can't wait to see it completely sculpted :D

[Marinus Mortimer]

They made a real disaster!

But anyway I love even more the new shape, I can't wait to see it completely sculpted :D

Thanks Kass
I promise guys this is the last time i go hulk smash instead of fixing it this fluke sculpt will be it or this tail i love it so much and if at the end i don't like the leafy tendrils ill cut them off cause there's a slight chance that the flowyness of them in the water will bug me but well see. Drawing up new color scheme to go with the change of fluke now...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/3f995b9da1f8352bb2364894a1375702.jpg


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Destruction must come before Creation, hence forward springs the Phoenix rising from the ashes.

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35 mins later
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[Marinus Mortimer]

Done filling up all the space now to smooth it and ad the leafy tendrils...


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Tendrils look alot like gigant squid tentacles.

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Smoothing stage progress


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[Shaylee Moon]

Smoothing stage progress


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I LOVE that!


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[lotusauriel]

Smoothing stage progress


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalkhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/c0c89ce9b4aa220867298d1181246cb0.jpgGorgeous!

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Gorgeous!

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Ok so just woke up from being up sculpting till 7am its was a very productive night indeed if this progress continues as it is ill have everything smoothed out and ready for detailing in a week...


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[Astridia]

It's looking AMAAAAZIIIING! It looks like its going to be MASSIVE but you like big flukes so that's a good thing ^_^. Heee! can't wait to see more! (Well I can. and I'll have to, but you get the sentiment XD)

[Marinus Mortimer]

It's looking AMAAAAZIIIING! It looks like its going to be MASSIVE but you like big flukes so that's a good thing ^_^. Heee! can't wait to see more! (Well I can. and I'll have to, but you get the sentiment XD)

Thanks so much Astridia im exited aswell i would flood this with pics but its not much change in the smoothing stage untill its done 50% done smoothing.


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[Rebela Hunter]

What are you smoothing it with? Or how?
That's got to be a ton of smoothing work!

[Marinus Mortimer]

What are you smoothing it with? Or how?
That's got to be a ton of smoothing work!

My fingers hun the best tools i got!


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[Keiris]

It's so unique! Coming along well!!!!

[Rebela Hunter]

My fingers hun the best tools i got!


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Wow! More power to you! : )
When I was in a pottery class, they used a "kidney tool" to smooth things out, so I was just curious <3

[Marinus Mortimer]

Thanks for the kind words!

Decided to go ahead and extend the top part of the fluke cause the outer ridges ended in a 90 degree angle and i might not do it right in the tail body sculpt so i decided to sculpt part of the extended area on to the fluke sculpt.

Pics of to show how much i extended it up (this does not make the tail longer just shortens what i have to sculpt on the tail sculpt itself...

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Another pic to show the length of the extension area from toes to fluke.
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The area still in paper will be added to the tail body sculpt.

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Hitting the bed now work more tomorrow!

[KatieScottArt]

Smoothing stage progress


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That shape though!! :swoon:<3

[Marinus Mortimer]

I was going to take the day and swim but i decided to stay home and sculpt for a while so here i am in the final phase of smoothing down the sculpt cant wait to start detail work.

I remember that in the beginning i aways wanted a dragon themed tail and I've been thinking of ways to bring that back and include it into this design so watch out for new color scheme and Dragon theme


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[Rebela Hunter]

I was going to take the day and swim but i decided to stay home and sculpt for a while so here i am in the final phase of smoothing down the sculpt cant wait to start detail work.

I remember that in the beginning i aways wanted a dragon themed tail and I've been thinking of ways to bring that back and include it into this design so watch out for new color scheme and Dragon theme


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I'm excited !!! :yay:

[Marinus Mortimer]

Working on tattering the edge of the fluke, i didn't realize when drawing the detail on the edge that it would be hard to follow the line with clay! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/9ac3bec531d1f27828a9481dd7c6ef0d.jpg


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[Astridia]

Aaah it's comming along great!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Aaah it's comming along great!

Thanks a lot!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Steady progress, first layer of detail now to redetail with the plastic to make the lines more rounded and natural.

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Pictures of the progress on the fluke sculpt which is almost finished and a pic of the possible to change further belly dragon scales still trying to figure out what shapes i like better and how to keep each scale going down the row to look proportional to the next before i start sculpting them, im excited to do them though!

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Working on the #Dagon belly scales and they get massive! This will greatly cutdown how many scales ill need to cast later.
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[DancingJohari]

looks awesome!

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[Shaylee Moon]

Working on the #Dagon belly scales and they get massive! This will greatly cutdown how many scales ill need to cast later.
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AHHHHH THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!!!!!


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[Astridia]

*Squealing* so awesooome!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Thaks for the complements guys so I've sculpted six belly scales in total and seance those take up the space of my kitchen table ill just finish those and then work of the other ten later on cause if i make more ill be forced to sculpt everything from the floor and that tends to be uncomfortable after a couple hours.

So heres where im at with the Dragon belly scales and ill post pics of the fluke once i finish smoothing the lines so stay tuned!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/ab04ebd21b80dcb2bd5514d95dbd990d.jpg


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[Shaylee Moon]

Thaks for the complements guys so I've sculpted six belly scales in total and seance those take up the space of my kitchen table ill just finish those and then work of the other ten later on cause if i make more ill be forced to sculpt everything from the floor and that tends to be uncomfortable after a couple hours.

So heres where im at with the Dragon belly scales and ill post pics of the fluke once i finish smoothing the lines so stay tuned!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/ab04ebd21b80dcb2bd5514d95dbd990d.jpg


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Honestly your work just keeps getting more and more perfect!!!!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Honestly your work just keeps getting more and more perfect!!!!


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Thank you sister i always try my best plus if this is cool to you i cant wait to read ur reaction once I've added all the detail to them!


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[Shaylee Moon]

Thank you sister i always try my best plus if this is cool to you i cant wait to read ur reaction once I've added all the detail to them!


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I cant even wait to see that! Your work is always so inspiring to me!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

I cant even wait to see that! Your work is always so inspiring to me!


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Awwe than that means alot ❤️ and good luck on your own sculpting sis


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[Mermaid Kassandra]

I'm in love with the sculpt of your fluke! :swoon:
And those dragon scales! :jawdrop: Now I want dragon scales on my mermaid tail too!!! All your and yours sculpting skills fault! :neener::rotfl:

[Marinus Mortimer]

I'm in love with the sculpt of your fluke! :swoon:
And those dragon scales! :jawdrop: Now I want dragon scales on my mermaid tail too!!! All your and yours sculpting skills fault! :neener::rotfl:

Omg Kass thanks so much for the kind words uve made my day better than it just was and for that im grateful!

Here a pic of the full vew on my fluke thats almost finished today ill leave the dragon scales and finish this instead! Wish me luck!
PS the water bottle ontop is for size reference.
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[Astridia]

good god, you're gonna need a trailer fer that tail at this rate XD

[Marinus Mortimer]

good god, you're gonna need a trailer fer that tail at this rate XD

Girl tell me about it I've been plundering ideas on how i will manually transport this tail from place to place because it WILL be HEAVY as HELL my best idea so far is to implement the way bike taxis are made with the thing in the back where people sit well something like that but to transport my tail while on a car well still figuring that out probably tied to the roof top if thats even legal in the USA cause in Puerto Rico people be moving and taking mad stuff on the roof of their cars like the mattress and stuff like that, i mean people have bikes mounted on their roofs maybe i can modify one of those things so that i wont be breaking the law by having my tail up there for long distance travels...


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[Keiris]

It will DEFINITELY keep you in shape hauling that thing around! :lol:

[Mermaid Kassandra]

Omg Kass thanks so much for the kind words uve made my day better than it just was and for that im grateful!


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You don't have to say thank you ;)
I saw the finished sculpt of the fluke (on your IG I think) it's soooooooo beautiful!
Keep on the good work mer-bro ;)

[Marinus Mortimer]

This tail is on pause due to unemployment but I'm still testing out a few things and slowly sculpting new fins for this tail cause the old design is no more.


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[Trident True]

it looks good. i Know you must be dieing inside you get this finished. I know I am, once November hits i can actually test mine.

[Astridia]

Any updates on this? it was looking so cool!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Any updates on this? it was looking so cool!Its in pause due to lack of founds still work on upgrading stuff and doing a reg tail for first client

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Update: job interview almost sure I got the job so founds will be coming in soon for finishing this soon.


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[Astridia]

Woohoo!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Also changed the color scheme but all the previous ones will be realized in due time for now this the one I’m going with as a tribute to my first silicone tail. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/77fdb40fa83ac0ca80b7c0c3a6829db6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/42adf8f421ccdef42ff43becae79bc40.jpg


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[Ashton]

:thumbs up:

[Marinus Mortimer]

Thanks Ash

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[Rett]

Woah that looks fantastic! Definitely more fierce than the previous coloring schemes! Cant wait to see this tail in the water! (fingers crossed its ready by next summer :lol:)

[Marinus Mortimer]

Woah that looks fantastic! Definitely more fierce than the previous coloring schemes! Cant wait to see this tail in the water! (fingers crossed its ready by next summer :lol:)

That’s the plan bro [emoji1434]❤️


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Although I made this fin for a tail commission it’s based on the fins I originally intended for this tail so I’m also using them on my tail there fore I post pics . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171210/eaaa019571bca63cebca2d86b6f76719.jpg close up.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171210/b721b91905b821dee3a82e4fc19ffc5b.jpg


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[DancingJohari]

awesome!

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[Marinus Mortimer]

These pectorals were designed for this tail but are being tested on my first tail commission, here I am making sure the sides are perfectly mirrored images of eacother https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/5da7c1d3a354192156877d2c17319878.jpg


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[SIF]

[QUOTE=Marinus Mortimer;285308]Girl tell me about it I've been plundering ideas on how i will manually transport this tail from place to place because it WILL be HEAVY as HELL my best idea so far is to implement the way bike taxis are made with the thing in the back where people sit well something like that but to transport my tail while on a car well still figuring that out probably tied to the roof top if thats even legal in the USA cause in Puerto Rico people be moving and taking mad stuff on the roof of their cars like the mattress and stuff like that, i mean people have bikes mounted on their roofs maybe i can modify one of those things so that i wont be breaking the law by having my tail up there for long distance travels...

Mortimer, I don't know if it'll help, but I transport mine in a canvas "Christmas tree tote" with wheels I custom cut a sheet of 1/2in play for support and keeping the tail from dragging. There's enough extra room that you could probably do it with an extended tail.

[Marinus Mortimer]

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Mortimer, I don't know if it'll help, but I transport mine in a canvas "Christmas tree tote" with wheels I custom cut a sheet of 1/2in play for support and keeping the tail from dragging. There's enough extra room that you could probably do it with an extended tail.

That’s actually a good idea for short distance travel! Thanks a lot!


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[.MermaidSophia.]

It’s been a few months since I’ve checked on your progress and WOW I’m floored... All of your work is so pretty...

Also it’s totally legal to put stuff on top of your car in the states. I’d put your tail in a roof bag or something like that so it doesn’t get any wind or sun damage.


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[MermaidElisa]

It’s beautiful! I love ur cartoon ..how’d u do that?

[Mermaid Salty]

You are an extremely talented artist. Bravo mate! Love seeing your updates.

[Keiris]

It's looking so great Marinus!

[Marinus Mortimer]

I bought the lexan but have no power cutting tools so playing it safe and saving it for my next refined extended tail this is a prototype, I recycled an old rapid which is cut to shape.

I wanted to sculpt then cast the tails but I need more exp points for that so I will build up to the desired thickness up layering silicone, afterwards I’ll scale the tail and add fins .
I’ve set the dead line date on the current tail I’m making to 2https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180814/84791ccb09affe681f6744582025e1b0.jpg weeks from now so after I finish my attention falls back here


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[Trident True]

I found this :jawdrop::jawdrop: its made with fabric and the fluke is silicone. LOVE the way it moves. it actually looks Natural and may be useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYnVfuegtdg

[Kidiu]

I found this :jawdrop::jawdrop: its made with fabric and the fluke is silicone. LOVE the way it moves. it actually looks Natural and may be useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYnVfuegtdg

OMG, I can’t believe I’ve never seen this! It’s beautiful! A successful extended tail, and its for sale on their website!

It’s in French, it says that the fluke is translucent, the heels are perfectly hidden, the tail is actually completely silicone, no fabric whatsoever:
http://www.creation-sirene.sitew.com/#_Long_Fish_.A

It’s €3990/$4642 but the site says you do need to physically visit their workshop so they can mold you and get a perfect fit.

Anyone up for a trip to Toulouse, France?

[Trident True]

Yep, it does look good, the fluke is very thin which makes sense otherwise you wouldn't be moving at all. its a good tail for pools but not so much in open water and currents.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Yep, it does look good, the fluke is very thin which makes sense otherwise you wouldn't be moving at all. its a good tail for pools but not so much in open water and currents.

Exactly my thought I need power and speed not graceful movements


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Back on this full effort, extension prototype being built now



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[Marinus Mortimer]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181001/16a7655d3c27f6f1e7412a32cd18e1a5.jpg
Here a pic of my original concept design sketch for the Extension prototype and here Is the prototype I plan to fill out the triangle shape with silicone, once the angle is right tape dummy of my feet will be used to sculpt a foot pocket around it with silicone, once the pocket is cured the tail shape or thickness will be built up in layers on top of a leg tape dummy, the thickness will be like that if the Mako Mermaids Tails and the fluke will be also thick and will be monofinless and semi translucent.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181001/efd8d0e59da43598f290420282611d93.jpg


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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181001/16a7655d3c27f6f1e7412a32cd18e1a5.jpg
Here a pic of my original concept design sketch for the Extension prototype and here Is the prototype I plan to fill out the triangle shape with silicone, once the angle is right tape dummy of my feet will be used to sculpt a foot pocket around it with silicone, once the pocket is cured the tail shape or thickness will be built up in layers on top of a leg tape dummy, the thickness will be like that if the Mako Mermaids Tails and the fluke will be also thick and will be monofinless and semi translucent.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181001/efd8d0e59da43598f290420282611d93.jpg


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I love it so much and I can wait! Ahhhhh! [emoji2]

[Marinus Mortimer]

Seance I had to re use the scales I had made before I actually had to reuse all of the clay including the fluke I had sculpted previously so now I’m starting all the sculptures from scratch so here is a picture of the first two scales I have tow options what do y’all think I’m not sure if I should go with the one that looks like a moth or moth wings or the regular one at the bottom I will be sculpting additional scale concepts this is what I got for now
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181002/7f78894ad3b56a0edf431e3d57d208f7.jpg

[Marinus Mortimer]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181003/97d2e119a04fc8a981a996407c1bab26.jpg
Going with the moth wings


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[Marinus Mortimer]

It’s filling out nicely, I’m using caulk to fill it up to shape, if you notice the triangle forming that will be the foot plate seance the prototype extending piece is an old rapid I avoid the tail having the “L” shape that is caused by the natural curve at the ankles I counter it with the triangle and the tail continues parallel with my knees down to the fluke. Hope it makes sense https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181005/ca5244437544bc54ad15e03fb591371c.jpg


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Done with the silicone foot plate now to attach the top part for the foot pocket https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181205/36607ef26e468ba3c817785341e71105.jpg
I drew a foot so y’all can understand the concept and what I’m aiming for! Which is to keep the tail straight all the way to the fluke like the mako tails


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[Sam is here]

nice!

[KTMaggs]

Good, but just wanted to say 10/10 on that foot drawing [emoji23]

[MermanOliver]

Cool! Really looking forward to seeing it finished! :)

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Good, but just wanted to say 10/10 on that foot drawing [emoji23]

Thanks lol




Cool! Really looking forward to seeing it finished! :)

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Same here! It’s been a long time coming.


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[Mermaid Jaffa]

Ooo! Nice! Are you going to make another lump on the other side of the monofin, so the fin flesh looks evenly distributed and muscular when the skin is all done?

[Marinus Mortimer]

Ooo! Nice! Are you going to make another lump on the other side of the monofin, so the fin flesh looks evenly distributed and muscular when the skin is all done?



Yes I’m just doing this first because I’m not making this first one with polycarbonate like I planned so I gotta get that triangle to keep the line I’m still waiting on the silicone to fully harden so that I can add the piece of silicone I sculpted onto my feet tape dummies so that the foot pocket is perfect size for me after that’s glued I’ll wrap the whole thing in powermesh sleeve that is also the first layer of the tail skin then encase the entire thing in silicone at this point the leg tape dummy and feet dummy are inside and I’m covering the entire thing in layers on layers on layers of silicone to build up the thickness to resemble Mako tails from latest seasons. I’m basing the thickness on their concept art found on goodle pic below for reference https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/bc96b21fa315deafaafe3c54832dd0d8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/2a8afc5a56a5d647f05ecf57d00ba004.jpg

[Mermaid_Izzy]

Yes I’m just doing this first because I’m not making this first one with polycarbonate like I planned so I gotta get that triangle to keep the line I’m still waiting on the silicone to fully harden so that I can add the piece of silicone I sculpted onto my feet tape dummies so that the foot pocket is perfect size for me after that’s glued I’ll wrap the whole thing in powermesh sleeve that is also the first layer of the tail skin then encase the entire thing in silicone at this point the leg tape dummy and feet dummy are inside and I’m covering the entire thing in layers on layers on layers of silicone to build up the thickness to resemble Mako tails from latest seasons. I’m basing the thickness on their concept art found on goodle pic below for reference https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/bc96b21fa315deafaafe3c54832dd0d8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/2a8afc5a56a5d647f05ecf57d00ba004.jpg

You have such a good grasp on how to execute this! I have thought about extended tails a lot, but this is amazing and more than I could conjure up. I can't wait to see the final product, I know it will be well worth the wait!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

You have such a good grasp on how to execute this! I have thought about extended tails a lot, but this is amazing and more than I could conjure up. I can't wait to see the final product, I know it will be well worth the wait!


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Thanks I’ve been planning and visualizing the plan for a very long time


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[Marinus Mortimer]

FYI this is still happening everyone I know it's been years now but soon!

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[MermaidEmber]

Such a cool design! I hope you continue it.

[Marinus Mortimer]

I had it basically finished but used caulk to build up the thickness cause y'all know I want a thick tail but that approach failed.
Take note caulk users!
Caulk is great for tails but only on top of a layer of neoprene and it can't be cast scales it has to be the type of scales that are made with a spoon. If y'all look on YouTube for diy tails you'll see what I mean by that, caulk rips the thicker the more it'll rip it's not meant to be stretched or flexed.
The sides of my tail ripped in a single line as the tail was empty and fell in on itself the pressure ripped down the sides like a knife, and the ankle ended up not being able to pass my feet while one was in there so I've scrapped it, because throwing it away isn't an option.



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[MermaidEmber]

:(

[Marinus Mortimer]

So I hope this works! I've been trying to update this for a while but can't find the right cropping app for my pic size.
Extended tail is nearest to complete then ever! I WILL swim in it this summer!
Extension and fluke are connected, working on the thickness at the moment.
Below are links to Pinterest board that I use to collect all my fishy inspiration, I posted the pictures of the tail on there because I can't post them directly here.
Thanks guys for all the advice over the years this place is like an Emerald Tablet


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https://pin.it/4kudj0Z

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[MerEmma]

Whoa!! That's awesome! I believe in your ability to finish this and swim this summer!! You've got this :P

[Ashton]

looks great so far

[Marinus Mortimer]

If you look close u can see the shape of my feet in the foot pocket.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/167697372536f17d44f8ab71a9b93c70.jpg

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[The Water Phoenix]

If you look close u can see the shape of my feet in the foot pocket.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/167697372536f17d44f8ab71a9b93c70.jpg

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Yaaass!! I can’t wait for you to finish this! It looks awesome!!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

It’s happening guys!
I’m almost done!
First test swim tomorrow before I add the scales and fins, at this stage I can still do editing if I need to so taking her out to the river tomorrow and seeing how it swims. Here are some progress pics of the tail and of the tail while I have it on, to show the “””heel-less” effect i achieved.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/b5a3915291a2161395135374777707cc.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/fe00162f3e6ac8330cd622d5a602608f.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/698ae7d0ac04db3e871abf386043b643.jpg
Tail by itself
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/a468c1f05760c60e575bacd03a07f878.jpg
Tail has no heels
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200703/4ac7dc3c8e2ab8e7f12733ef8621660f.jpg

Ps the excess neoprene is not intended to be es raro fins it’s the tail is just unfinished but we all know that lol.


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[K Swim]

I hope it works for you. Looks like you've put a lot of time into it.

[PearlieMae]

Awesome! I can't wait to see it in the water!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Not sure if I can up load video here but I will try.

Point is the tail works PERFECTLY as seen in the video now to add the finishing touches....
This “SLOW EXTENDED TAIL MAKIMG JOURNEY” is almost at a close. These last few years have thought me a great deal and I hope that of us here from the beginning learned just as much as I by reading my updates!


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Can’t upload the video so I’ll upload it to my YouTube channel and then share link here in my next post.
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[The Water Phoenix]

If you ever make extended tails and sell them, I'd probably be your first customer!

[Marinus Mortimer]

If you ever make extended tails and sell them, I'd probably be your first customer!

[emoji7][emoji7][emoji817] i would be honored to make it [emoji3590]


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[Echidna]

looks awesome. Can't wait to see the video.

[Marinus Mortimer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX693lZgH0U&feature=share hopefully I did it right and this link works


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[K Swim]

Looks like it works well.

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Looks like it works well.

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Doesn’t just look like it it WORKS PERFECT.
It’s the best extended tail I’ve seen since H2O and Mako tails. And not just because I made it [emoji23] well maby a little. But it will be proven once it’s finished and it surpasses even the mako tails. And that is the ultimate truth.


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[MerEmma]

Wow!!! It's swimmable and works great! I can't wait to see more footage of it--looks like it moves rather smoothly. Do you feel fast?

[Marinus Mortimer]

Wow!!! It's swimmable and works great! I can't wait to see more footage of it--looks like it moves rather smoothly. Do you feel fast?

At the end of the test video I did a little sprint towards the cámara and acted like I ate it . That’s fast I’m not sure if u can tell the distance between my starting point and the rocks but if you watch the footage again you can see the speed and that wasn’t me going all out I was just testing how I can turn and how it feels.

It swims great and I found that after 3 kicks in a straight line I gain lots of speed. I also noticed it shortened my breath hold just a bit but I can attribute that to the fact that I had to hike to get to the river with this really heavy tail [emoji23]

The extension does most of the work then I’m kicking downwards because the angle I made it is counter so the silicone always wants to go back to its resting place thus pushing the water while I’m kicking so the tail helps me swim two but that bounce back I just mentioned i noticed when doing strong kicks that cause the tail to bent then it bounced back to original shape to bend and bounce back. Idk if this explanation makes sense but it’s how I visualized it.

I am now in the process of finishing 2 commission tails and tops. But I work on my tail in between, soon I’ll have underwater videos and pictures for everyone with the finished tail cause it’s just neoprene for now lol [emoji23].


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[Marinus Mortimer]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/59f2d1fd938f3c35c0e74b2a07d34e31.jpg

Almost all scales are on now I va start painting this bad boy!

This thread still lives!


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[Mermaid Jaffa]

Ooo! Big scales!

Not many tail makers do big scales, and looking at it here, they do look really nice! A proper grown up tail instead of the mini baby scales that everyone does.

[Marinus Mortimer]

Ooo! Big scales!

Not many tail makers do big scales, and looking at it here, they do look really nice! A proper grown up tail instead of the mini baby scales that everyone does.

[emoji3059] Thank you Jaffa.
I love the Asia arrowana fish and these scales are an attempt at that, plus I use individual scales image usin baby scales on this huge extended tail [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33] it would take me forever just to scale it.
I have four sizes of this scale type for seamless pattern and because they should be smaller towards waist line as those are “new growth”.

I’m looking forward to sharing more with you all in the coming weeks.

* Disclaimer * I will most likely will not be adding my markings to this tail as it is the prototype, I plan on a nice blue coloration.
Like the mako mermen tail just blues.


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[scilover]

wow, i swear your tail looks gorgeous. hope to see the final result soon

[Marinus Mortimer]

First colors dark blue. Pics of extension area and fluke


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[Marinus Mortimer]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/25329a6617218c752d9f0d9b48d4cea2.jpg
Yesssssss finally able to upload a picture here ! FYI the tail is empty but the thickness makes it hold it’s shape. If your wondering foot pocket area is more or less where the dorsal fin is.


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[The Water Phoenix]

I like big scales and I cannot lie! I can't wait to see the whole thing finished!!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Thank you PhoenixMer [emoji3590][emoji3590][emoji3590]
I’m undecided as for fin placement not sure if I’ll do a dorsal and call it or if I wanna do side fins and pectoral fins omg [emoji15]


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Just thought I’d share this monster is 7.5 feet long from waist to fluke tip.!!! Omg [emoji33] But I am very tall with long legs so it’s understandable


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[Mermaid_Eos]

This looks so incredible!!!

[Marinus Mortimer]

This looks so incredible!!!

Thank you so much!


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[K Swim]

Nice craftsmanship there. Looking good

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[Marinus Mortimer]

Nice craftsmanship there. Looking good

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Can’t wait to show more


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[Trident True]

Can’t upload the video so I’ll upload it to my YouTube channel and then share link here in my next post.
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IMPRESSIVE.......... CONGRATULATIONS. ALL YOUR YEARS OFF HARD WORK PAID OFF :) It looks really good, you wont even see the outline of your feet once its scaled. I relocated and haven't been on here in 2 years. Once i moved I never had the funds to complete mine, but i haven't given up. :)

[Hopeful]

Amazing tail!

[Marinus Mortimer]

IMPRESSIVE.......... CONGRATULATIONS. ALL YOUR YEARS OFF HARD WORK PAID OFF :) It looks really good, you wont even see the outline of your feet once its scaled. I relocated and haven't been on here in 2 years. Once i moved I never had the funds to complete mine, but i haven't given up. :)

Yeeeees brother never give up! Is so glad to see you post on this thread 🪡 it’s been years of planing and discussion on here and now I’m finally finishing up the scaling process! This supper I’ll have lots of content for this thread and the photo shoot tread [emoji3059]


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[therivermermaid]

Doesn’t just look like it it WORKS PERFECT.
It’s the best extended tail I’ve seen since H2O and Mako tails. And not just because I made it [emoji23] well maby a little. But it will be proven once it’s finished and it surpasses even the mako tails. And that is the ultimate truth.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

Ughhh I can't WAIT for you to master the extended-tail-making process so I can order one from you [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24] I would love to have a long ass tail so I can be tall at least when I'm a mermaid lol

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Lmaooo I’m already 6 feet tall without the tail I’m about to be like 15 feet long merman!
The tail is done with adding scales I’ll be painting it now. Omg [emoji33] just in time for summertime I’m so happy.


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[SereiaTitania]

These look so cool!! Would love to try one some day. You should be proud of your achievements. Keep up the good work :)

[Marinus Mortimer]

These look so cool!! Would love to try one some day. You should be proud of your achievements. Keep up the good work :)

Awwe thank you so much! Ever since I saw the fist extended tail by JMBFX Studios I was so in love [emoji3059] I immediately began trying to reverse engineer it in my head and researching it’s been more than five years since I first started and now I’m finally seeing Dawn again after many long nights of testing and planning and building I am so proud 🥲


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[Marinus Mortimer]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210607/99d1a5045f41c6fa29e5c8b092c7779c.jpg

Decided to add fins last minute so these aren’t as detailed as they could be and will be on the 2.0 to come next. Now figuring out how to make it more travel friendly

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[Astridia]

Oh! I love the way you did the scale patterning! It's looking so good!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Some last minute resize issues since I lost so much weight lately has ruined the scale pattern at the front a bit but I’m already working to fix the area with dragon scales like I drew so long ago!


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[Astridia]

So excited for you!

[Marinus Mortimer]

Sizing crisis averted I just tried him on and it’s sooooooooo perfect fitttttttttt omg omg omggggg omg this is happening and I did it! Proud is not big enough for what I feel right now I’m beyond proud of myself! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210610/a195f004497d797aae4919482ca1c1fe.jpg


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[SereiaTitania]

It looks so cool!! I love all the fins, It really looks incredible. Great job :)

[Marinus Mortimer]

https://youtu.be/dE1JjXqSgOE
Here’s a video link to me putting the tail on loook at the legless of it all I am patting myself on the back [emoji1787][emoji23] but seriously guys I’m basically finished if not for a few layers of blues left to be added.


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[Marinus Mortimer]

It looks so cool!! I love all the fins, It really looks incredible. Great job :)

Thanks sooooo much I sooo can’t wait to swim in him for the second time! I swam it last year to test the extension it took me most of that time to finish a tail commission and last three months I’ve been working on this non stop every day well night lol [emoji23] and it is been soo worth it I wish I was faster though and needed less freaking sleep [emoji42] I would be able to do so much!


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[MerEmma]

GORGEOUS! It has such a great shape to it and the metallic blue is so pretty! I'm sure you're stoked!!

[Marinus Mortimer]

GORGEOUS! It has such a great shape to it and the metallic blue is so pretty! I'm sure you're stoked!!

Beyond stoked! It’s very hard not taking him out for His first swim but I don’t want it to be humid while in the box on the plain it’s already heavy enough dry lol [emoji23]


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[Astridia]

Aaaa it's looking so cool! Love the shiny metallic! It's gonna look so lovely in the water!