B!TC# IT OUT!

[SeaGlass Siren]

i think you need to get the house eradicated of mold and fungus. that's just unhealthy.

[Mermaid Kelda]

Are there reviews for her products anywhere online?

[Adalira]

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[Mermaid Mhara]

Aww I understand that problemo Adalira! My friend lives in a house just like yours, and no matter how much he does and tries the mold just will not budge...and moving house is stressful and money consuming at best.

I'd say deffo try the air purifying plants! Especially where you sleep, another thing my friend does is he uses a de-humidifier (his model you can even place oils in it to make the air smell lovely!)

As with the herbs, be careful! But if you truly think it'll help, go for it, so long as you have enough money to try it!

[SeaGlass Siren]

yikes... im sorry :hugs:

[Adalira]

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[-Annwyn-]

As many of you may know i have been feeling sick most of last year most likely due to mold and fungus in the house.
A friend of mine in England introduced me (on facebook) to a woman in England who makes herb capsules and tinctures herself.
This woman treats both humans and animals with all kinds of viruses and bacterias, but also cysts and other ailments with her herbs with great succes.
I contacted her and a treatment of 3 weeks with capsules and tinctures will be 63 pounds including shipping to the Netherlands.
I am debating if i should do it or not.
I feel it could be very benificial to my health since something has been bothering me all year and if it is a mold bacteria in my body or any other bacteria/virus this could be just the thing for me.
I asked my friend and she said she uses her 3 week treatment once a year to give her body a good cleanse and she loves what it does for her.
What do you guys think?

These pills are just fucking bullshit. Unless she had a medical/pharmaceutical degree with peer reviewed evidence to back up the claims that those pills work, then you got scammed, honey. How do you know those pills are not just powdered sugar and ground up parsley? Also, there is not such thing as a 'cleanse' - you can only just restore your body to good health again by eating fruits and veggies (and moving out of your mold-house). You body ALREADY has cleansing systems in place. Sugar pills won't do shit.

Sorry to sound so aggressive about it, but this fucking woo-based shit really pisses me off. Scamming innocent people.

[Echidna]

These pills are just fucking bullshit. Unless she had a medical/pharmaceutical degree with peer reviewed evidence to back up the claims that those pills work, then you got scammed, honey.

While I agree with you that most of these "alternate" healing products are scam, I'd like to say that many pharmaceutical drugs (complete with backing studies and evidence) are scam also.
Just because it's produced by a pharmaceutical business, prescribed by a doctor, and sold in a pharmacy, doesn't mean
a) that it will help
b) that it won't harm you.

Loads of drugs I've been prescribed do more harm than good. Some can be lethal.
I suffered from severe heart problems after taking a drug that years later was discovered to cause heart failures.
This happens because pharmacy is a big business that doesn't strive to cure people, but to make money, no matter what.

And loads of said studies and "evidence" are faked to sell the drugs sooner and spend less money.
When people then die from the untested drugs, very little happens.
People who know this often turn to natural remedies, because they've seen the harm of "scientific" pharmaceutic medicine.


That said; there are many plants that do indeed have very good effect on all sorts of viruses and bacteria (and fungus and parasites too), but they are not top secret.
Onions, garlic, and many herbal teas are among them.
If someone does not want to tell you which plants are in their "magical pills", it's very likely they want to scam you.

And concerning mold problems, I fear none of them will go away as long as you're sitting in it, no matter what kind of remedy you try.

[-Annwyn-]

While I agree with you that most of these "alternate" healing products are scam, I'd like to say that many pharmaceutical drugs (complete with backing studies and evidence) are scam also.
Just because it's produced by a pharmaceutical business, prescribed by a doctor, and sold in a pharmacy, doesn't mean
a) that it will help
b) that it won't harm you.

Loads of drugs I've been prescribed do more harm than good. Some can be lethal.
I suffered from severe heart problems after taking a drug that years later was discovered to cause heart failures.
This happens because pharmacy is a big business that doesn't strive to cure people, but to make money, no matter what.

And loads of said studies and "evidence" are faked to sell the drugs sooner and spend less money.
When people then die from the untested drugs, very little happens.
People who know this often turn to natural remedies, because they've seen the harm of "scientific" pharmaceutic medicine.


That said; there are many plants that do indeed have very good effect on all sorts of viruses and bacteria (and fungus and parasites too), but they are not top secret.
Onions, garlic, and many herbal teas are among them.
If someone does not want to tell you which plants are in their "magical pills", it's very likely they want to scam you.

And concerning mold problems, I fear none of them will go away as long as you're sitting in it, no matter what kind of remedy you try.

"You know what they call alternate medicine that's been proven to work? 'Medicine' " - Tim Minchin.

[Talia]

While I agree with you that most of these "alternate" healing products are scam, I'd like to say that many pharmaceutical drugs (complete with backing studies and evidence) are scam also.
Just because it's produced by a pharmaceutical business, prescribed by a doctor, and sold in a pharmacy, doesn't mean
a) that it will help
b) that it won't harm you.

Loads of drugs I've been prescribed do more harm than good. Some can be lethal.
I suffered from severe heart problems after taking a drug that years later was discovered to cause heart failures.
This happens because pharmacy is a big business that doesn't strive to cure people, but to make money, no matter what.

And loads of said studies and "evidence" are faked to sell the drugs sooner and spend less money.
When people then die from the untested drugs, very little happens.
People who know this often turn to natural remedies, because they've seen the harm of "scientific" pharmaceutic medicine.


That said; there are many plants that do indeed have very good effect on all sorts of viruses and bacteria (and fungus and parasites too), but they are not top secret.
Onions, garlic, and many herbal teas are among them.
If someone does not want to tell you which plants are in their "magical pills", it's very likely they want to scam you.

And concerning mold problems, I fear none of them will go away as long as you're sitting in it, no matter what kind of remedy you try.

Maybe I am in the minority, but I do not trust anyone selling "magical cleansing remedies" over the internet. Even though you are rigth, Echidna, and some medicines that are given for public consumption end up being not good, they still are regulated, and doctors keep records of how patients respond to treatments to be aware of anything that could go wrong and detect the problem. But these drugs are not a scam. They are medicine gone wrong and being proved so by scientific evidence.

Some woman saying her potions cure *insert illness here* is selling snake oil. People are advised not to medicate themselves and to not take homemade remedies for a reason, and that is not only for the pharmaceutical companies to make money. A lot of people don't know that simply taking 6 mg of ibuprofen in 24 hours will (not may, will) cause them liver failure. Just as many people don't know that drinking moonshine or home-made absinthe can cause blindness and kidney failure.

Scammers take advantage of people's ignorance. It does not matter something works for so and so person. And if the ingredients are not released, then I would be double suspicious.

[Adalira]

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[SeaMansa]

Omg I just read the leaked plot spoilers for the fantastic four movie and.........I. Am. Pissed. Off. >> Idk who is in charge of theses changes...but they need to get their life. They need to go back...and ughhh.... Thing is, I am not even a huge comic book fan but what I DO know of Fantastic Four...and what this movie is.... I CANNOT EVEN >> {SPOILER ALERT} {SPOILER ALERT} {SPOILER ALERT}>>>>>>

DR. DOOM IS AN INTERNET BLOGGER -____- can we all just let that sink in. Doom is an internet blogger, and Ben and Reed are co-workers at a convenience store -____- I just cannot. I really cannot even. Marvel was doing so nice... But this.. this might just be the thing that ruins them. I can't. I really can't. I am unable.

[SeaGlass Siren]

we'll see what marvel decides to do. they might do something different entirely altogether because disney still doesn't own the rights to fantastic four. or XMEN.

[-Annwyn-]

I am sure she is not scamming me with sugar pills or anything though. She has a big piece of land in England where she treats animals and takes in animals to help them....

Just look at other natural remedies that are amazing....just recently doctors (This was on the Dr OZ show) said that turmeric is very very healthy and that women especially should be taking this every day to prevent cancer in the female productive organs.
And it is said that turmeric can also fight cancer cells in the body.
Hemp oil seems to be an amazing cure for a lot of ailments as well and i think they are currently researching it for being able to cure cancers as well....

OMFG just stop with the utter bullshit you are spewing out right now.

The fact that this woman has land does not credit your argument. It's irrelevant.

According to Cancer Research UK, the studies done for the link between Tumeric and Cancer were done on MICE. The stage 2 tests done on 25 (that's Twenty-five) humans were INCONCLUSIVE. Here is the article: http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/abou...ancer#research

"Dr." Oz is another scam artist who only shills what he's paid to. He's a heart and lung surgeon FFS who really shouldn't be discussing weight loss at all- because in the past he's admitted before US congress that the bullshit he's shilling doesn't work. Here is an article about it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5504209.html

Hemp Oil Cures Cancer? Yet, another hoax - http://skepdic.com/ricksimpson.html

Surely, Adalira, you aren't that dumb enough to believe this nonsense. If I can find all this information from google in 5 minutes, surely you can too. These hoax claims hurt people. If they were any good, they would already be used in hospitals (like Aspirin is).

[Echidna]

Take it down a notch Annwyn, will you?

I'm sure you have the best of intentions.
As I said, I'm very wary towards anyone promising me anything, and I apply that scepticism not only towards alternate medicine, but also towards the "accepted" pharmaceutical and surgical business, er medicine.

Some people get that scepticism through experience, and others through research.
Cancer treatment is a delicate subject.

But I've seen too many people who weren't even that bad off (begining cancer and such) dying within days of getting treated in hospitals with all the official, good, right, evidence-based, studied etc etc methods.

There is no need to bash people who look for other ways.
I would too, because I have no desire to be killed off with chemotherapy just so some unscrupulous specimens can earn more cash.

[-Annwyn-]

Take it down a notch Annwyn, will you?

No.

[Adalira]

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[Echidna]

And your argument that if it were any good it would be used in hospitals literally made me LOL so thank you for that one. You made my day.
I did not know there was still so many gullible people out there or as some people call them "sheeple" who believe anything doctors, so called research centres (mostly funded by pharmaceutical companies so off course they are telling the truth ) say.

this.
It's strange to realize there are still people who have blind faith in "official" stuff in medicine, politics, media, religion...if I had done what doctors have told me over the years, I'd be dead at least 3 times over.

If there were a plant able to cure all cancers, hospitals and doctors would do their utmost to deny that it helps, because a plant cannot be copyrighted and therefor not used to make the pharmaceutical business money.

Believe the stuff they say at your own risk :P

Adalira, I'd still ask what exactly is in the pills.
Chances are you'd have the same effect with herbs you prepare yourself.
That way, you can be sure there's nothing harmful in it (and it's probably cheaper).

I wouldn't take anything where I'm not sure what the ingredients are.

[Adalira]

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[Talia]

Cancer treatment is a delicate subject.

But I've seen too many people who weren't even that bad off (begining cancer and such) dying within days of getting treated in hospitals with all the official, good, right, evidence-based, studied etc etc methods.

There is no need to bash people who look for other ways.
I would too, because I have no desire to be killed off with chemotherapy just so some unscrupulous specimens can earn more cash.

First of all, Adalira, you are free to do what you want. If you have faith in this woman, by all means, get her treatments. Just don't expect all people to agree with your decision, because some, including I, and I think Annwyn, think it is a bad idea.

But Echidna, people dying of cancer after getting treatment are dying because of the cancer, not because of the treatment. The treatment gets them worse, of course, because it is powerful stuff designed to kill cells, and it kills also the good cells that are not part of the cancer. Thus the saying "the cure is worse that the illness". Many times the chemotherapy is not going to cure, but gives them extra time. Some other times it is not so, sadly.

I am not going to talk about cancer research, because it's a broad subject, but if you are interested, this is a great book on the matter.

Also, as a scientist household, we take scientific research seriously, because it is a serious matter. My husband has been trying to publish a paper since last Summer, and he is still getting hold by the referees. Publishing studies is not done lightly, and takes a lot of work and a lot of external scrutiny.

And precisely because we know about it, we take everything that we see in the news with a grain of salt. If someone says he has found a cure for cancer, we will doubt that the assesment is correct. Cancer in general is not cured. Specific cancers may be, but still, not all people respond to a specific cancer in the same way, even if it is the same desease. So one person living for years on a stage 4 of cancer does not mean another is not going to die at stage 2.