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Thread: The First Ever (soon to be) Published Study on Mermaid Tail Swimming and Tails

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    Is there a real difference in speed or is it just all in my head?
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    I don't have all the data yet. I'll let you know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaid Jaffa View Post
    When I do sideways swimming with arms in front, it feels like I'm going a little bit faster. I curve the whole body like the way I've watched Misty Hyman does in her demonstration video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFnf2WRNYt4
    It's usually said that the bigger the amplitude, the slower you go, which is why pro swimmers aim for a fast, low amplitude kick.
    But with my timed fin test I've found that it really depends- on your buoyancy, on your speed, on what you're wearing.
    Sometimes, a bigger amplitude can give you more push (especially when wearing a tail) and thus be faster.
    I don't think there is this recipe that's true for everyone.

    Right now I'm timing myself with different fins in different tails.
    I will share the results once I have them all, but it's already clear that a tail slows you down like no tomorrow.
    Like, I'm faster without fins than with fins in a tail, by a large margin.
    At least when I'm using a flowy fabric tail with a big fluke.

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    how did you specifically test speed again Echidna? We used actual testing equipment and the data goes through a system to be interpreted, in addition to timing. And we've done it over and over and over again to get our consistent results for each and every variable.

    We're also testing in actual salt water, not chlorine, fresh, or bromine.

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    For me at least, I'm faster in my tail than I am in legs. It also depends on the monofin, my trainer and competitor are amazing, where my old fish butt tail with an oceanika was slower, but still I feel like I get more bang for my buck by being in tail.
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    I'm WAY faster when I'm in my tail than without personally Raina, I love reading on the studies you're doing! It's so interesting seeing all of the scientific information behind swimming in tails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaid Sirenia View Post
    I'm WAY faster when I'm in my tail than without personally
    Same here. I CHALLENGE YOU TO A RACE at MerMania!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Merman Arion View Post
    Same here. I CHALLENGE YOU TO A RACE at MerMania!
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    I promise I'll update it soon so much has been done I just have no time at all right now to sit down and scale images so they fit on here or edit and render video. It's so cool lol it just takes so much time. I was just there on Saturday til 8pm at night >.>

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    My simple The2Tails tail got me out of a rip current in Costa Rica, while at the same time 2 swimmers and even a surfer had to be rescued by lifeguards! It was part speed, part stamina, as I did a backstroke/dolphin kick until the swell of a wave came, then I would do an underwater dolphin kick as fast as I could using the push of the wave. I have no doubt that it would have taken me longer and more effort to get out if I was just swimming.

    In making my silicone tail I def want to know as much as I can about preserving the performance aspect of the monofin while balancing it with the aesthetics of a mermaid tail. Excited to see Raina's results.
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    It's been crazy, I will say we have tested two prototypes so far that change how you wear a monofin, to make it hands free to get your feet in and out (whether in a tail or just a monofin) cut back on the pain monofins inflict upon our feet, and expand our range of motion and ankle support. This is being combined and tested against the data we already collected of how monofins swim on their own, and how they work in tails.

    So far I have found the results *interesting* based on my personal experience of testing the two prototypes. The second was certainly improved compared to the first. But personally (without having seen any of the data yet) I *feel* as though it drastically changed the way your body moves when doing the dolphin kick and I *suspect* it uses more oxygen from your body. It made it *feel* easier and I could certainly swim around with no pain, and lift flukes easily etc and get my feet in and out, but so far it made it personally feel to me like it increased how much body energy was needed if that makes any sense at all? I feel like I got far more of a workout from our prototypes. I also felt like I did turns, rolls, flips, and side swimming 1000 times easier.

    but again that's just my PERSONAL experience, and not actually an interpretation of data. What I think feels harder to do, may just be different to do, and output different data.

    I am really curious to see the interpretation of these first few rounds of data collection. I think it's being published sometime this week. (or submitted for publishing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess Pearl View Post
    Are they testing your your breathing to see if the fins actually affect your oxygen use?
    no. I wish they were. maybe the next one! that is just my anecdotal observation

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    Does material of monofin affect your speed? Or is it more reliant on your swimming skills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaid Sirenia View Post
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    Awesome! Then I'll beat the winner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaid Jaffa View Post
    Does material of monofin affect your speed? Or is it more reliant on your swimming skills?
    We used all same materials so I wouldn't know , but like I said I don't have access to all their data yet

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    It would be so interesting and cool to find out all these things.
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    Another photo dump. Will hopefully have more video for you soon! It just takes so much to filter through and edit, and I have been insanely busy!


    Me getting ready to compare a regular finis rapid, to our one with the second prototype adjustments. (we were cold so we all wore pants lol)




































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    Do we get a sneak peak of your prototype monofin? Or is it all hush hush secret fishy business?
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    patent pending bahaha

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