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  1. #8121
    Quote Originally Posted by Theta View Post
    Give it a month. The kerfluffle involving the wider community will calm down and the two parties involved will handle it between themselves, or not. This is not the first time something like this has happened. And in the big scheme of things, this is nothing in comparison to some of the stuff that happened between client and tailmaker. (Remember the insanity of the Adam Martyn situation? Pepperidge Farm remembers.) I hope Raven and the client can sort it out. I hope that Raven takes some time off and recovers her equilibrium. Either way, the earth turns, we all move on.
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    The problem arises when someone flat out lies or fabricates the facts. What are the facts? Mermaid claimed to pay more than she did. Mermaid claimed to wait 3 years which she didnt. Those are lies. She admitted the next day she wasn't truthful. Which was very good of her. I have had dealings with mers in the past that never admitted they lied or owned up for their shitty behaviors. Regardless of the tail 'falling apart" (her words) or not. She did lie about a couple things and THAT is the problem in my opinion. Raina called her out for lying and is now receiving all the hate. If the tail (any tail) fell apart b/c of poor craftsmanship, then a mermaid has a right to be upset. If she is unhappy with the seams she has a right to be upset, however she should have stated upfront that was the case. She didn't. So I am guessing that was a lie? or change of mind? I don't know. I am not accusing anyone but the fact is clear she lied about a couple things that she is being called out for that. I have NEVER in my life seem so much drama as the mer community. It is f*cking sickening. Some people don't like Raina, because she stands up for unfairness and speaks up when she sees something shady and people don't like that b/c it involves them or their friends. Some mers are so narcissistic in thinking their shit don't stink and they can do whatever the f*ck they want and their loyal followers will have their back. And that is just the way it is and will always be. There is no changing the minds of the weak minded. I am so done!

    **edit to add that in the past I have had my own drama with a certain mer that was in our local community. I was very vocal about it and always stated the facts. Noone wanted to hear it. I was accused of not wanting to work with them and that I was causing trouble, ect. But in the end, after they screwed over others, people saw I was right.
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  3. #8123
    Quote Originally Posted by LouLouBelle View Post

    I did see the unboxing video, though, and the mer in question seemed really happy with the tail, heart, bracer and hair clip. IF it's true that she claimed she didn't get them, then I know she's not being honest there because I've seen the video where she takes them out of the box...

    If you have issues with something you've bought, then adding any amount of lies at all into a review isn't very bright, as it will discredit the whole thing.

    If she didn't say that she didn't get them, then please someone correct me... I wouldn't mind a link to the video so I can see it for myself. As it stands, I'm looking at everyone that's posted here and feeling very wary of trusting what anyone says. All I know for sure is that every statement on here can't be true because there's so much contradiction.


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    I did see the video and from what I remember, the thing she didnt receive was a top. She said she got the hair clip and scale heart. That the hair clip looked like a kid made it and the scale heart wasnt the right or same color? I cannot remember exactly. I dont recall anything about the bracer, so I am unclear about that.

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    I think it's a good thing that Raven is discontinuing taking orders from the general public and limiting her tailmaking to existing clients and her own creations. Obviously she has been overwhelmed with business for quite some time and cares a lot about her creations. I think this change will allow her to focus on her art as her art and not as simply trying to make someone else's art a reality. I really hope it allows her to continue to love tailmaking and creating. It would be a sad shame to lose such a wonderful artist due to burnout. I've seen a few of my creative entrepreneurial friends have burnouts or get very close, and it's heartbreaking.

    Can't wait to see what Merbellas has in store for the future. Perhaps some day she'll make something that I can make my own!

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    the scale heart wasnt the right or same color?


    I think people don't realize the scale hearts are made in batches from left over materials and given out as a freebee. They aren't made from your specific tail pieces. Just done in batches to use up leftover stuff that can't be used for tails. So she has a big batch of them, and grabs one she thinks goes in line with your scheme as a little keepsake. The scale hearts aren't customized to your tail. From a distance mine look like they match but up close you see they aren't even the same scales or colours. Also LouLou is comparing the unboxing video to the review, so the unboxing video does indeed show she got her gifts

    I just think it's sad Raven even has to defend GIFTS.

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    Well after reading everything posted here about me *ouch* I don't even know what to say.

    Ive worked so hard for my clients and I have an amazing reputation because of it. NOT because Raina "Bullies" people who say anything, but because whenever a client comes to me with an issue I fIX IT. I have bad reviews. You can read them here. I did not dispute those or even say anything. I had already done all I could do so I accepted them and thats it. I will be the first to say, I am in no way perfect. I am very flawed in many ways. And Sure, my tails are also flawed in many ways. I don't claim to make perfect/seamless tails and I do not claim to even be the best in the business. I am the best that I can be. Plain in simple. I give each tail my All because I HAVE TO. Anyone who knows me will tell you this.
    I am also a very sensitive person. Its one of my least favorite qualities about myself but also the MAIN reason I will no longer be taking on custom orders.
    It was very very difficult to read how some of you on here talk about me. As if you know me, as if you knew my INTENT whilst making someones tail? Im honestly just schocked seeing what conclusions people so easily jump to about me. Someone mentioned how hurt they would be if they knew people on a forum were talking about them....yep. Totally hurts.

    I never ever make public statements. I never "go after" or "attack" people for their opinions/reviews of my work. I keep to myself and I work...
    But this person LIED. Lied about very important things in her review.

    And from what I gathered here,
    That doesn't really matter because calling out lies IS WORSE than actually lying around here.
    and even though we can EASILY prove that I am not lying about her lying (also because she has since come forward and admitted she lied about several things)
    I am not able to do so or I would be doing a more horrible act of sharing her email (which y'all have no problem doing with Mertailor) but again, right now, worse crime.

    SO what do you want from me? HOW do I defend my name? How do I stand up for myself? It feels like you don't actually want me to.

    EVERYTHING Raina said I stand behind. EVEYTHING others have said in my defense and honestly out of common sense I stand behind and DEEPLY appreciate. Oh man you have no idea how thankful I am for the things some of you have said, its honestly helping me keep my sanity at this point.

    I have never been so hurt and so confused and believe me, tail makers go through so much. but YOU don't know because I never say anything about it. Raina is the only one I trust enough to talk to about tail making because SHE UNDERSTANDS. She talks to you guys, and helps people and is friends will almost all the tail makers. She understands how hard it is on us. I feel like I have burdened her with this. And it absolutely breaks my heart that people are actually attacking her over this what I though was a pretty black and white issue. Its insane.

    Im not saying she didn't have valid complaints about her tail. I saw she did a large amount of damage to it and she even says she does SEVERAL gigs a week for the entire month this review wasn't posted when she got her tail, only a month after heavy use. Fins do not fall off, paint dose not just fall off. It clearly gets SCRAPED off. I scraped a large part of paint off of my newest clownfish tail the very first time I wore it because I was shooting in a small concrete pool. I didn't intentionally make her tail worse its just what happens. Any "Pro" with a silicone tail should understand this simple fact of tails.
    Fins don't fall off. They rip. again I do not understand how this is my fault but I do understand if happened and she was upset about it. but instead of contact me and ask me to fix it or hell even a refund she decided to act in this way. So I didn't even HAVE the chance to even offer any solution. She never asked for a solution.
    and you know what, if the seams were sloppy I would have been happy to re-do them I HAVE DONE THAT FORE CLIENTS BEFORE. Every client is different. How do I know what details will "crush their dreams"? Her unboxing video she cried at the sight of it and genuinely seamed happy. She went right to work doing gig after gig. How was I supposed to know there was an issue?
    You could clearly see the seams in the photos I sent, and NO I did not glamour edit the tail. Thats just ridiculous. I wouldn't even begin to know what to even edit out. its not like she replied to them saying "Oh man the seams look kinda sloppy?" and I said I'd fix it, photoshopped it and sent her the same photos or something. Again, this is just people assuming the worst of me O.o

    It really really feels like you don't want me to clear my name or prove my side (or even hear my side) because she already got to say hers in the way she wanted.
    Im not perfect, I make mistakes. I own up to my mistakes. It does my business ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD to intentionally send out bad work. I don't know why I would "Not care at all" and then not care so much I made her two extra gifts a customized hair clip THAT SHE MOCKED while complaining I didn't send her anything extra. I also sent her a scale bracer. You can see these things in her unboxing video and she was happy with them then.

    Im sorry for any typos etc. Im very very flustered over this whole thing and "speaking up" about it is my least favorite thing but I just can't believe how people have responded and I really can't believe how much of this has fallen down onto Raina when all she did was hear my side and try to stand up for me.


    Again, thank you to the people who said such kind things about me and didn't just assume Im some kind of monster. I will never forget the things said here over this.
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    Raven, it is heartbreaking to hear the pain in your written words. Please don't let people steal your joy and strength as an artist. I feel that you are one of the most talented and unique artists that I have ever seen, especially considering that you are completely self taught! This includes special effects artists that I have worked with in CA! It is always evident in the pictures posted of your BREATHTAKING work that you constantly try to out-do yourself to make OTHER PEOPLE'S dreams come true. I especially admire that you take the time to always try to make it right when there is a size, color, whatever issue when the client makes it known to you. Hard to do if you're never given the chance to begin with. You ALWAYS seem to bend over backwards to make the people who have bought your creations happy. In everything I have seen posted here they always are!

    We artists always tend to wear our hearts on our sleeve. I know I do with my mural/canvas commissions and it hurts when we're subjected to criticism when you feel you have done the best you can do on that particular piece. I hope through all of this tired BS you can take a respite for yourself, ignore the haters( as they mean nothing), regroup, and continue to create the masterpieces that people have come to appreciate and admire you for. Whatever form your business takes from here.

    You're such a graceful and beautiful mermaid. Maybe take a few weeks off to close the door to your studio and just SWIM in your fabulous tails. I'm sure you never get much chance to do it anymore because you were always so concerned with filling everyone's orders at the sacrifice of your own health and happiness. Get in and swim! It will feel like therapy as all the meaningless crap washes away.

    You have a LEGION of fans who admire and appreciate all your talent, creativity, ingenuity and hard work!!!! I know I do! So please, please don't give ANY of this any more thought than it is due.

    Best of luck to you and Tyler. You deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keiris View Post
    Raven, it is heartbreaking to hear the pain in your written words. Please don't let people steal your joy and strength as an artist. I feel that you are one of the most talented and unique artists that I have ever seen, especially considering that you are completely self taught! This includes special effects artists that I have worked with in CA! It is always evident in the pictures posted of your BREATHTAKING work that you constantly try to out-do yourself to make OTHER PEOPLE'S dreams come true. I especially admire that you take the time to always try to make it right when there is a size, color, whatever issue when the client makes it known to you. Hard to do if you're never given the chance to begin with. You ALWAYS seem to bend over backwards to make the people who have bought your creations happy. In everything I have seen posted here they always are!

    We artists always tend to wear our hearts on our sleeve. I know I do with my mural/canvas commissions and it hurts when we're subjected to criticism when you feel you have done the best you can do on that particular piece. I hope through all of this tired BS you can take a respite for yourself, ignore the haters( as they mean nothing), regroup, and continue to create the masterpieces that people have come to appreciate and admire you for. Whatever form your business takes from here.

    You're such a graceful and beautiful mermaid. Maybe take a few weeks off to close the door to your studio and just SWIM in your fabulous tails. I'm sure you never get much chance to do it anymore because you were always so concerned with filling everyone's orders at the sacrifice of your own health and happiness. Get in and swim! It will feel like therapy as all the meaningless crap washes away.

    You have a LEGION of fans who admire and appreciate all your talent, creativity, ingenuity and hard work!!!! I know I do! So please, please don't give ANY of this any more thought than it is due.

    Best of luck to you and Tyler. You deserve it.
    Can't put it better than that, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keiris View Post
    Raven, it is heartbreaking to hear the pain in your written words. Please don't let people steal your joy and strength as an artist. I feel that you are one of the most talented and unique artists that I have ever seen, especially considering that you are completely self taught! This includes special effects artists that I have worked with in CA! It is always evident in the pictures posted of your BREATHTAKING work that you constantly try to out-do yourself to make OTHER PEOPLE'S dreams come true. I especially admire that you take the time to always try to make it right when there is a size, color, whatever issue when the client makes it known to you. Hard to do if you're never given the chance to begin with. You ALWAYS seem to bend over backwards to make the people who have bought your creations happy. In everything I have seen posted here they always are!

    We artists always tend to wear our hearts on our sleeve. I know I do with my mural/canvas commissions and it hurts when we're subjected to criticism when you feel you have done the best you can do on that particular piece. I hope through all of this tired BS you can take a respite for yourself, ignore the haters( as they mean nothing), regroup, and continue to create the masterpieces that people have come to appreciate and admire you for. Whatever form your business takes from here.

    You're such a graceful and beautiful mermaid. Maybe take a few weeks off to close the door to your studio and just SWIM in your fabulous tails. I'm sure you never get much chance to do it anymore because you were always so concerned with filling everyone's orders at the sacrifice of your own health and happiness. Get in and swim! It will feel like therapy as all the meaningless crap washes away.

    You have a LEGION of fans who admire and appreciate all your talent, creativity, ingenuity and hard work!!!! I know I do! So please, please don't give ANY of this any more thought than it is due.

    Best of luck to you and Tyler. You deserve it.

    Agree wholeheartedly.

    I understand about putting your heart and soul into your work, I am like that with my studio. Each and every single customer receives a piece of you in the creation of it, the same with our clients, and we have to deal with everything from untruthful reviews, to mud slinging in the local community, to creepers, and people wanting freebies and everything else under the sun. I completely understand how something like this can affect your heart and make you absolutely sick.

    Take some time off, take some long swims with Tyler, take a trip, discover a new place, relax and soak up some sun. Give your heart and mind time to heal and rest. You work so much for others, please don't forget to take care of yourself. Above all else, if you're not well, then you're not going to be happy. And we want you to be happy.

    I wholeheartedly support your decision to take time off from customs, sometimes even the strongest of us just need an absolute break from everything.

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    personally I think you shouldn't give them that satisfaction of stopping. Some of them are being so hateful almost wanting you to fail. Some people thrive on others failures..its sick. By pulling back or stopping they get their way. You need to take a nice vacation and regroup and just come back stronger than ever

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    What Keiris said.

    Raven, I'm so sorry you've gone through this. Really, your work speaks for itself. No one could make something so incredible as the work you put out if they didn't pour themselves into it.

    I'm not a tailmaker, but a videographer and editor. Nothing hurts more than when you go above and beyond to give a client what they said they wanted, they agree to it, and then turn around and trash you for it. Honestly, it was a situation very similar to what you're going through that made me quit freelance work. I now only put out my own work. So I completely understand why you won't be taking any custom orders from now on, although I am heartbroken that now I will never get that chance, thanks to situations like this. Raven, you did not destroy anyone's mermaid dreams. But clients like this may have destroyed mine and others. I hope you get a good break from people so you can just focus on what you love, because I selfishly can't wait to see what you make next. Try not to let the haters get to you. They always squak the loudest so it seems like they're bigger than they are. You are well-loved and admired in this community, and we wish you the happiness you deserve. And hopefully I can catch one of your creations in the future!

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    From a personal point of view - I wouldn't trust a video that has several proven lies in it. It brings down the integrity of the entire video, and of the user. I didn't see the pictures of the tail before it was sent out, but from the video the only thing I don't know how the tail could not be self-inflicted would be the seams and the drainage holes (the latter of which I am dubious if the tail does float up or if water could even get inside, and if the seams were visible from customer photos thats on her to have contacted raven about). I have owned 2 Merbella tails, both a lot older than this girl's, and have had zero issues with either that was Raven's fault. I mean, I gained weight and ripped the first one but that's on me. I contacted Raven immediately and she was kind enough to fix it for me. I do several gigs a month and I'm wearing a tail a few times a week. I've been using her tails exclusively since November 2015, I believe. I just got my Kariel tail two weeks ago and before that I was exclusively using a Merbella tail that wasn't sized to me, causes drag because the waist opens up, and it's held up like a champ. Zero issues. I mean, there is a reason why it is recommended to not have a silicone tail as your first tail. If there are really people who are afraid to speak up against Raven's work because they have had issues themselves, why wouldn't they just contact her and talk to her? I mean. I'm here in Hawaii, which has arguably the most expensive shipping in the continental US and it hasn't been an issue for me. Heck, I've talked to her from Singapore and Hong Kong as well.

    From a moderator point of view - The discussion started and was accelerated by third parties. If anyone would have guessed that this was what it was going to turn into, I'm sure the thread would have been locked out earlier. As moderators our primary responsibility is the forum itself. We are supposed to be as impartial as possible. The situation in question started on Facebook and while it is super unfortunate for Raven, it didn't really belong on the forum unless luckie made it a public review on MerNetwork - which she didn't. I believe the moderators are only responsible for the reviews on the forum, similar to how Amazon reviews are not the same as reviews found on Zappos. However, we're now past the stage where anyone can do anything about it. I'm a little uncomfortable that Raina jumped the gun and forwarded stuff to Iona as quickly as she did, as I think that added to the escalation. But I don't have a problem with her defending Raven. Reading her posts carefully, even if she spoke dismissively, she didn't break any rules or US laws/legalities. I think that if she is still acting as a contractor for Raven that should have been made clear upfront, but I'm not sure how entirely relevant that is to the core of the discussion - which is someone made a false review (I say false because the video itself does have lies, whether or not the comments retract it), and the discussion about it ended up on MerNetwork.
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    Spindrift, I just wanted to give some context to your points.

    I'm a little uncomfortable that Raina jumped the gun and forwarded stuff to Iona as quickly as she did, as I think that added to the escalation.


    I actually forwarded it once everything had already started (the video had been up almost a day by that point) , and timing wise, only because I was super busy that day and knew shit would hit the fan lol. in the past I've been too late in getting people whatever proof they've requested- and people have used timing against me (damned if I do, damned if I dont). I think me commenting at all is honestly what escalated it. there were comments before I even said a word, taunting me, baiting me, and threatening me. They knew I would have to comment in defense of my friend, and they had a plan already to come at me. I think had I said nothing at all, and anyone else said it, there'd be barely an issue. But what am i gonna do when someone openly lies about my good friend? Or ANY of you on the mernetwork when I know with proof it's lies?

    I think that if she is still acting as a contractor for Raven that should have been made clear upfront,


    There's no law that requires that, but mods did already know that and were reminded of it in the message I sent them anyway. It's no one's business on mernetwork or in general if I am contracting, and we keep it to ourselves because I do it off and on, and it interferes with my own business when clients confuse us and message my personal fan page.

    it didn't really belong on the forum unless luckie made it a public review on MerNetwork


    I appreciate that statement, but the review wasnt put on the forum ever (and I actively repeated over and over again I wouldn't put it here). Just people discussing it, and the entire forum is filled with us discussing things that dont originate on the forum. The cultural appropriation thread for example, was all facebook. Hannah didn't come here and post her casting calls or her video, we discussed it here. Which is fairly normal of any forum U think

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    Raven, I'm sorry that this has caused you so much trouble. I don't know what really happened in the situation. No one here does. The evidence presented (now that this is public) is open to anyone's interpretation, and I think it escalated more than it should because of the way people approached it and their attitudes. You're a good businessmer and it is ultimately up to you which direction you want your path to go. Do what feels right, and what feels best. I think it's unfortunate that this is the situation that presented this opportunity, but please don't let this define you, or your business.
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    I couldn't agree more with Keiris either.

    I haven't seen the review so I don't know all the details, but one thing that seems to have been established is that this mer complained about gifts... (Once again, please someone correct me if I'm wrong.)

    I'm sorry, but if you give someone a gift and they turn round and complain about it, that tells you all you need to know about that person. Even if there are any legitimate complaints in the review, that one fact really speaks volumes about the kind of person you're dealing with and, despite what a few others have said, that person is anything but sweet. You DO NOT complain and mock when someone gives you a gift if you have any decency about your character at all.

    Raven ~ I might not own a Merbella tail, but I'm completely in love with your work. I could spend ages just sitting looking through your Instagram pictures. It's so sad to see you quitting custom work, but I can't say I blame you at all. I really really hope you're able to take some time to really enjoy being a mermaid and making tails again. ❤️


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    I am glad people on here finally believe the truth I am just so flabber gasted at how much it took for people to believe it. Thank you all for being understanding of Raven and showing her support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AniaR View Post
    Spindrift, I just wanted to give some context to your points.



    I actually forwarded it once everything had already started (the video had been up almost a day by that point) , and timing wise, only because I was super busy that day and knew shit would hit the fan lol. in the past I've been too late in getting people whatever proof they've requested- and people have used timing against me (damned if I do, damned if I dont). I think me commenting at all is honestly what escalated it. there were comments before I even said a word, taunting me, baiting me, and threatening me. They knew I would have to comment in defense of my friend, and they had a plan already to come at me. I think had I said nothing at all, and anyone else said it, there'd be barely an issue. But what am i gonna do when someone openly lies about my good friend? Or ANY of you on the mernetwork when I know with proof it's lies?



    There's no law that requires that, but mods did already know that and were reminded of it in the message I sent them anyway. It's no one's business on mernetwork or in general if I am contracting, and we keep it to ourselves because I do it off and on, and it interferes with my own business when clients confuse us and message my personal fan page.



    I appreciate that statement, but the review wasnt put on the forum ever (and I actively repeated over and over again I wouldn't put it here). Just people discussing it, and the entire forum is filled with us discussing things that dont originate on the forum. The cultural appropriation thread for example, was all facebook. Hannah didn't come here and post her casting calls or her video, we discussed it here. Which is fairly normal of any forum U think

    I don't have much to say about timing, unfortunately. I haven't been as active as I should be, for being a moderator. Being proactive is good, and I understand everyone is busy with their own lives, but posting about it so quickly may have added to the issue since people are responding to the forum in real time. I think there are also a lot ways to say the same thing, without coming across as being defensive, but the recoil is definitely something everyone here needs to work on.

    It's true that I am coming in late to this situation. I didn't watch this unfold as the same time as everyone else (and I have the worst time zone out of all the mods). I think if you are making a statement on Raven's behalf on a forum it is good to identify not only as her friend, but also her ambassador/spokesperson/representative when making statements like you did. Then the posts appear to come from a different place, rather then a guard dog - does that make sense? I understand there is no legality issues - and I'm not really concerned with that point on this issue - it is more the escalation and words exchanged, archived here forever, that I am not too pleased with.

    As for discussion on the forum, I do believe there was a way this talk could have not turned into drama. Yes, we're talking about Hannah's stuff in the mers of color thread, but all of that stuff was on her public Facebook page. This wasn't. And it turned into discussing someone's personal correspondence with Raven without either of their (perceived - until later) consent. Personally, I am uncomfortable with that. If we were just talking about the end result of that transaction and the source is from either the person slighted or the tailmaker - I have no isssue. We do that with Mertailor and all the other tailmakers. But, and you can totally correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there has been a situation like this before. In any case, I do want to move forward since it is being discussed and it is on here.
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    Those are all valid points and I will be sure to remember them if there's ever a next time. (hopefully nothing of this magnitutde) thanks for making them.

    Not directed at you, and more of a vent:
    I don't mind accepting my faults and working to make sure things are better, but I do get upset when I am the only one in the situation frequently assuming any responsibility and doing that. The very reason I handled this situation the way I did, was based on exact feedback from previous situations where people said, I eluded to things I didn't prove, I didn't give proof fast enough, I added too much of my personal opinion. Those were all key things I specifically changed, but now it's like a double standard or the rules have somehow flipped. Some here keep glazing over what was done to me in retribution like I deserved it, which is the same mentality (not on the same level, but the same 'mentality) as blaming a rape victim for her clothes she wore, blaming a person for walking late at night if they get robbed. Talk about anything that could possibly offend someone, or talk about something someone might see as drama, or talk about something someone somewhere may consider controversial, and you deserve to be threatened, heavily lied about, fake business reviews, insults and more. I would be banned no question if i did those things to others. If I even said "you're being stupid" on here, I would be banned.

    I certainly notice who on the forum saw that and spoke up, and I really notice who didn't. Speaking up and saying something is wrong, doesn't mean you agree with my side either. You can totally hate what I say, but aknowledge that the behaviour is totally wrong.

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    I've not seen the video (the unboxxing, yes, the other, no) so I will not be commenting on that portion of this discussion here. What I can comment on is the notion of letting a few people stop you from doing what you want to to.

    Sit down for this; I am about to lay something on you all. *Breath* I am fat. This is not a reflection of my character, of my abilities, of my talents, or anything else about me, it is just a stated fact based on appearance. Just as true as "I have freckles" and "I have long hair." However, in communities where you are put into the spot light, even in dimmer side lights versus the main stage, that suddenly becomes the worst thing you can be. (I can think of -worse- things to be, like a child molester or Trump supporter, but in most western societal pockets fat is the worst.)

    When I started to get into mermaiding it was 2009, I was a spry 25 years old and I weighed 325 pounds. You know what I did? Decided my YouTube was going to be part mermaid stuff anyways. My first mermaid video was me swimming with my new monofin in a tiny hotel pool, which did nothing to help me look any smaller. But you know what? I posted it anyways. I didn't even have a tail skin yet, and I put it up for the world to judge... and boy did they.

    Think back to high school, well, more like elementary school and you can imagine the treatment I got. All the bottom feeders came out to play as they thought I was an easy target. I was hurt and angry and retaliated at first, but then I decided to just ignore and deleted the very negative comments. It was not worth my time or energy. I was already super fat and trying to stop the comments was like bailing out the ocean: it wasn't going to work. "You were asking for it, though. Being fat -and- having the tag 'Little Orca'." I've been told this, and I ignore it. People who know me know why I have the Little Orca tag and why I don't g.a.f. what anyone else thinks about it.

    Point is, it didn't stop me. I went on to make my first tail. Soon after, I made a second, third, fourth, etc... Each time I got a little better, each time I got a little more creative, each time I focused on what I wanted out of it and ignored the comments I still got. (None of which were Raina. She was always encouraging. *Blubbery high-five.*) If I had listened to people who laughed at me, who called me unimaginative names, who vomited hate with each stroke on a keyboard, I'd not be here. (In more ways than one.)

    I would never have been a mermaid at Faerieworlds two different years. I'd never have swam with little girls at a pirate festival and would have never seen their eyes light up with the joy of meeting a 'real' life mermaid. I'd never have laid in a pool on the weekend for six weeks at a Ren Faire and let little faeries tell me about the falconry that I could'n't go see (because I didn't have legs so I could not walk to where they were.) I'd never have been part of a surprise swim for a terminally ill child.

    I'd never have asked you, Raven, to design my wedding tail.

    In my experience in the mental health field, people ('normal' functioning included) in this world often act harshly or negatively when they feel threatened. What causes this is variable, but usually it is a lack of security in themselves or in their environment. Some people may not take care of something properly and rather than acknowledge they may have done something to contribute to the problem which may make them vulnerable to their own faults and, thus, insecure, they must find an external source for the problem and use that scapegoat. I see it a lot at my facility among the patients and their families.

    Don't let someone else's goat stop you from doing what you love. Take your time to rest, scrape off those nagging barnacles of self-doubt, and focus on yourself. Netflix with Tyler, chill with some iced tea (or frappuccino, nom!), and come back to your work when you know you can.

    We will be here, Raven, waiting to see your newest creation with the love we have always given.

    ~*~ To Thine Own Mermaid Be True ~*~
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    If we were just talking about the end result of that transaction and the source is from either the person slighted or the tailmaker - I have no isssue


    That is what happened. If it was unclear before I apologize. Iona was only sent MINIMAL information of the end result of the transaction, and an excerpt from an email with no identifying factors . Efforts were made to make it that way and only what Merbella's deemed neccesary. If people are under the expectation there is a giant email thread or something, or banking information, or threads of stuff, that is incorrect. That stuff does exist and could be given to a lawyer to dispute the clients claims.
    Last edited by AniaR; 07-20-2016 at 03:48 PM. Reason: edited for clarity

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