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SeaGlass Siren
12-19-2015, 10:44 PM
Holy carp... I'm so sorry you're going through this ordeal. This whole thing is horrible... All I can really say is "Fish better have your money"

AniaR
12-19-2015, 11:33 PM
this is what she did every time she had issues. I bet she changes her FB name again too.

Mermaid Wesley
12-20-2015, 03:24 AM
or the prototype testers group, you know the one that had people pay $5 per person for a chance to be a part of? I think that maybe 3 people got their promised bracers

I got my bracers but if I hadn't I would have been pretty ticked off. And I am mad for everyone else :(


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PearlieMae
12-20-2015, 11:07 AM
Wow, Atlantis Dreamer! Those are some credentials! Who licensed and what board certified you as a registered "healer", "Angel therapy practitioner", "past life healer", etc...? And all those registered trademarks and regular trademarks! Wow! What's an R.H.?

And you sell blankets? Cool!

AniaR
12-20-2015, 12:00 PM
basically I'll sum up my *personal* history with her. (and these are all in older drama thread posts, they're just hard to track down because she changed her name so many times) Gather round children.

I was always pretty nice to her, I even donated money to her various gofundmes on more than one occasion. When she got in arguments with a merman on here I helped her clarify her points. I even briefly had her as a friend on FB and tried to help her when a mer with autism fixated on her a lot and argued and she was trying to get out of those situations.

Back then she was considering tail making and was still just making tops and headdresses and accessories. This was back when Stevi of fishbutts was still in GOOD standing with people. We had no reason to believe at the time that Stevi would become a scam artist.

Morticia (I think she went by Anna Norris back then, or even Raven) was pretty close with Kanti (someone who went on to steal from the community) and both of them were close with another neoprene based tail maker who is also no longer active. From *my* perspective, the husband of that now-inactive neoprene tail maker was on a big mission to discredit a lot of tail makers, most of whom he saw as competition to his wife. There were numerous posts (all still there if you dig through the archives) calling out tail makers. One was about mertailor, one about fishbutts etc.

At the time, like I said, Stevi was in good standing with the community. When that husband turned his sights on Stevi, he rallied other people like Morticia and Kanti to his cause. I am sure he said some convincing stuff to them and knowing what the guy was like, I don't blame them for falling for it.

Around this time this guy put me and Stevi on one of those exploitive nude photo websites. Basically it's like revenge porn website, and the guy who ran the website was arrested by the FBI last year. Now, despite the fact I have done published artistic nude modelling, they didn't put anything of mine up there. Just my website, email and pics of me with kids. (which is pretty lame.) but for Stevi this guy was working with another guy in the community, and they hacked her phone and got actual nudes from her. They posted it on this website and her phone number so Stevi started getting harassed by dudes on the website daily. I know who was responsible because they made accounts and bragged about it using their real names, and I double checked their IP with IPs I had on file for them from previous posts and harassment, and they matched.

Now, I know stevi turned into a scam artist. This is not to DEFEND her cuz what she did was wrong. But I wouldnt be surprised if this experience was one of the things that led to her downfall. She and I would talk a lot those days. The website would only take your stuff down if you paid them like 1000$. I just ignored it because I only ever got the off message and I think most of the people on there kinda saw through the posts of me and didn't bother. But they were all over Stevi. So at the time, I was feeling pretty defensive of Stevi. That's a really shitty thing to do to another human being.

So, Stevi starts getting harassment on her fan pages and fb page. So I suspect most of the people are these guys, but one woman kept showing up. I clicked on one of the women and it was a fan page and when I clicked on "about" this was back in the day when Fb would show you who owned the fanpage. And who was it? Morticia. I took screen shots of that, screen shots of morticia's FB profile on the day the postings were made which showed the activity. I sat on this info for the most part. I wasn't sure what to do with it. I let Stevi know so she could block morticia, and back then Mernetwork didnt have rules about off site harassment.

So within the next week or so Morticia and Kanti started really digging into Stevi. A few other members who didnt know better got on board. So I made a post where I said something along the lines of, can you blame her, and I listed the shit happening to her and mentioned that members of mernetwork were making fake FB pages to harass her. I didn't name Kanti or Morticia, or even make any suggestion it was them. Because back then the other people involved the guys were also on mernetwork. So really it was a fairly all encompassing comment.

Well, Morticia outed herself and so did Kanti by defending themselves to an extreme level, and then throwing accusations at me. It turned into this giant "Raina is lying" things and I was surprised people didnt even put two and two together that I didnt name them, and they named themselves which right away should of shown they were guilty. It started escalating pretty fast, and a few members who aren't fans of me took the opportunity to add fuel to the fire and we had a whole on hate Raina thread filled with made up stuff from Morticia trying to deflect away from what she'd done. Iona was sent the screen shots proving what Morticia did. So she posted them, along with the proof of her profile. You'd think that be pretty strong proof eh?

Well Kanti claimed I hacked FB. Photoshopped an elaborate screen shot (it included other open windows, the desktop, everything) and framed morticia. lol. Because I wanted to keep her from being a mermaid tail maker. Then they started demanding I produce video showing the page belonged to Morticia (I had mentioned earlier being willing to make a video tutorial showing people how to check the owners of a FB page) but naturally, Morticia had long since deleted the facebook fanpage, and changed her name about 3 times on facebook. Next thing we know Morticia's "mom" has a new mernetwork account. The IP address matches Morticia's despite the fact she claims to not live with her mom, and they both match morticia's place of work as well. And her 'mom' starts getting in on all the drama.

At this point the shit is flying and since a few of the comments got me mad and I cursed a few people out, I took a voluntary suspension to cool off. I think I spent a month off mernetwork even though I only needed to spend a week. I genuinely felt like they had turned people against me, so when I returned I promised to make a better effort on not "eluding" to things but rather posting facts I could cite (which i do now!) Moritcia and Kanti are livid I came back (despite being gone for a month) and accused Iona of "favortism" and siding with me (um hello, actual proof) and this was when they made their own "wavedancers" forum where a huge amount of the posts were just them bitching about me and Iona, and on multiple times making up elaborate lies they'd tell the rest of the community. (sorry folks. Iona holds me even more accountable than you guys BECAUSE we are friends. Where some of you will get chances, I go right to a ban/suspension so people don't think there's favortism. And there's been many a time I've felt I've been punished overly when others have not)

Morticia started making tails and changed her name again, now to morticia. Kanti started her tail tutorial and fundraising. Morticia tries a gofundme for a tank which falls flat, and gets mad at the community for not supporting her. Kanti gets mad more people aren't donating to hers when they ask for more info on her process.

Fast forward and I have several friends who now have tails by morticia, all falling apart after one swim, all two big, all with paint that comes off after one swim. My friend (I wont name her, but Iona knows who she is) starts taking in morticia's tails and fixing them up for people. I tried to be the bigger person and just act professional with Morticia and Kanti. I'd congratulate them on things, I even sent morticia money to show her water under the bridge when she had another fundraiser. But you know, the entire time I am thinking, these two are going to cause big problems.

So fast forward, that guy and his wife I mentioned are now no longer active. Kanti has run off with everyone's money. And Morticia is making tails but pretty much gone from the face of the Earth.

I have ALWAYS wanted to tell *my* side of the story, and for anyone who doubts it if you feel up to it you can dig through all the old posts in the thread. I have been concerned about both Kanti and Morticia since day one. Especially considering while Kanti was still active, I found stuff on other websites about her scamming. Kanti had people so convinced I was "out to get her" that I didn't feel like I could post it publicly. SO I instead sent it to the mods and the few people I knew supporting kanti privately so they could be the judge. As far as morticia goes, like I said. Teiri got a good tail she was happy with. If morticia was making a GENUINE effort to turn her life around and be a good person, I was NOT going to kick her down. I'd rather swallow my pride (like I've done with "merrowfins" despite all our horrible history) and see another GOOD tail maker enter the scene, that drudge up old drama and potentially cost someone getting a great tail.

But, basically Teiri is the only person I know who got their tail and liked it. I think Morticia will follow in Kanti's footsteps and her past behaviour on mernetwork and FB has shown me she can just change identities or switch off whenever she needs too.

I think a *lot* of people set out to be the best tail maker (fishbutts, jesse, merberry) but they set themselves up for failure day one by pinning themselves against tail makers who have had years or even decades to get where they are. They take on a bunch of orders early on and cant keep up.

So there ya go. Now ya know. *eats marshmellow*

Echidna
12-20-2015, 02:44 PM
Who licensed and what board certified you as a registered "healer", "Angel therapy practitioner", "past life healer", etc...?

I guess it's the OCESS-board (Official Cherubim Elohim Seraphim Society), consisting exclusively of members identifying with angels!

Mermaid Wesley
12-20-2015, 03:32 PM
*is now remembering things from before my long hiatus* ooohhhh yeaaaahh... Hm. Thanks for that Raina. It's such a bummer when people pit themselves against their perceived competition like that. Hopefully today's up-and-comers learn from all that and don't do any more of that shit huh? I hope everyone who was disappointed by their Morticia tails gets them to work somehow <3

(On a side note I was at a mer Christmas party yesterday in which you were lovingly called "The Queen of Screen Shots")


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Starfrit
12-20-2015, 05:09 PM
As far as I know, the only other person that I know of who was happy with their tail was Melusinah-- Not sure if that's still the case or what, though, I haven't seen her active since I ordered my tail. :/ And literally the only problem that I've ever had with my tail has been where the fabric bunches up around the monofin's footpockets and sometimes drags the fluke to one side when I swim. Beyond that, it's held up amazingly and taken beatings like a tank.

I had no idea she had such a bad history, hooooooly crap. D: If I'd known she'd done all that stuff, I'll admit... as much as I love my tail, I probably wouldn't have ordered from her. I went with her because, at the time, she was only one anybody seemed to know of who did painted neoprene and was actively taking orders-- and the only reviews I'd seen of her tails were positive (99% from Melu, mainly).

Now I really wanna know how many others have ordered tails since I did besides Phaylenn. Hoping I can find the thread from that one mer who talked about getting a lionfish tail around the same time as me, as I don't think they ever got theirs and it's been over a year and a half now.


::EDIT:: Found the thread, and messaged them asking about their tail. They don't appear to have been acting in a few months so I have no idea if they'll get my message, but we'll see.

AniaR
12-20-2015, 06:19 PM
the only other person that I know of who was happy with their tail was Melusinah

They were tight. So I doubt if she has a complaint, she'd say it.

PhaylennMurúch
12-20-2015, 06:35 PM
yeah, honestly if I had known about her track record and history I would probably have not ordered Harley from her. I would have waited and kept saving

AniaR
12-20-2015, 06:50 PM
yeah well for me it's hard for me to speak out about shady people and shady tail makers, I was literally the first person to ever do it and I've been doing it 8 years now. Typically when I call someone out they come back with the "bully" defense. and I can't just say something publicly before someone buys something- I mean hey, look how well that worked for me in another recent thread- :p. People just try to discredit you as much as possible. It's one of the reasons why I didnt feel I could say anything about Jesse either. I have been around 8 years I know all the shit. It's just whether or not people wanna hear it you know? I would of loved to have warned you, but let's be honest. If I said something, Morticia woulda argued me, tried to discredit me, I get dragged into a big drama, you end up hating me because you think I am trying to keep you from your dream tail... it goes on lol.

I have issues with other tail makers. I know one well known tail maker (not mertailor) who got their start by literally getting their hands on another well known tail maker and dissecting their tail under a totally different guise. It drives me insane watching so many people, some of them my friends, order from them. When I know how they started, and I know some friends who have had bad experiences. But people just do not want to hear it. Especially if they feel they had a good experience. Because it taints it that someone else didn't. Plus, if the tail maker who was taken advantage of doesn't want to deal with it or hold the dissectors accountable, I can't fight that battle for them.

That neoprene tail maker I talked about who doesnt make tails anymore, Ive seen so many of them fall apart after first use. Merberry? I was calling her out long before people started getting scammed.

Like honestly, I could write a book about the crap I know. But not everyone would want to hear/read it lol

SeaGlass Siren
12-20-2015, 08:28 PM
I didn't know about the merberry thing until I had already made the purchase. I joined mernetwork not long after.

PearlieMae
12-21-2015, 01:07 AM
Like honestly, I could write a book about the crap I know. But not everyone would want to hear/read it lol

I sure would!

SeaGlass Siren
12-21-2015, 07:12 AM
Tbh I'd totally read it too. Over wine and chips

Sherielle
12-21-2015, 09:58 AM
I got my bracers from her. They are ok and seem to fit well. I wasn't impressed with the paint job on them, but otherwise....meh. I did wonder why there hasn't been any activity in that group in a long while. Pretty much since I got my bracers last spring.

PearlieMae
12-21-2015, 10:16 AM
Tbh I'd totally read it too. Over wine and chips

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Madison MerFaerie
12-21-2015, 11:40 AM
You should write that book, Raina. Try to get it done before MerMania, k? You would have ALL OF US sitting at the foot of your bed in your hotel room for bedtime stories!

BEDTIME STORIES WITH RAINA.... Can we talk to Tom/Dan/Shannon and make this official programming??? ;)

PhaylennMurúch
12-21-2015, 02:45 PM
It bugs the shit out of me that Judy (from a few pages ago) who said that she has no interest in mermaiding or tail swimming has now posted a GoFundMe for "the dream silicone tail she's always wanted".

Mermaid Momo
12-21-2015, 03:25 PM
It bugs the shit out of me that Judy (from a few pages ago) who said that she has no interest in mermaiding or tail swimming has now posted a GoFundMe for "the dream silicone tail she's always wanted".

*goes back a few pages cuz I don't remember her*


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PhaylennMurúch
12-21-2015, 04:37 PM
she's the one who went on the attack against Hannah for her environmentalism pics, then freaked out when people called HER on it, deleted everyone from her "safe mermaid group"/business advertisement page who spoke against her then spoke out against THEM. She also seems to think that Raina and I are the same person.

SeaGlass Siren
12-21-2015, 05:38 PM
Bitch be cray

Starfrit
12-21-2015, 05:53 PM
It bugs the shit out of me that Judy (from a few pages ago) who said that she has no interest in mermaiding or tail swimming has now posted a GoFundMe for "the dream silicone tail she's always wanted".

Lol ain't that always how it goes? People who criticize the community and talk a ton of shit about people, or NEVER knew about Mermaiding before, suddenly expecting people to hand over thousands of dollars for their " lifelong dream of owning a tail."

Honey you ain't done a goddamn thing worth anyone throwing you a dime for your shit. You want a tail? Scrape your pennies together and work for it like the rest of us.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sherielle
12-21-2015, 07:13 PM
It bugs the shit out of me that Judy (from a few pages ago) who said that she has no interest in mermaiding or tail swimming has now posted a GoFundMe for "the dream silicone tail she's always wanted".
That's who that is??? Oh geez

AtlantisDreamer
12-21-2015, 08:57 PM
Wow, Atlantis Dreamer! Those are some credentials! Who licensed and what board certified you as a registered "healer", "Angel therapy practitioner", "past life healer", etc...? And all those registered trademarks and regular trademarks! Wow! What's an R.H.?

And you sell blankets? Cool!

Unfortunately I don't sell the blankets! Lol. I wasn't advertising them, I was gushing about just having bought one, or rather, will be getting one for Christmas from my mother. I couldn't sew so much as a napkin if my life depended on it, lol.
My signature is not actually current though - I have MORE certifications and licenses now at this point!
My current credentials are...

Licensed Register Healer® as recognized by The International Natural Healers Association
Certified Crystal Healer®
Certified Practitioner of Crystal Medicine®
Certified Archangel Life Coach®
Licensed Angel Therapy Practitioner®
Licensed Past Life Healer®
Certified Angelic Medium®
Licensed Unicorn Healing Practitioner™
Certified Angel Practitioner®
Certified Angel Card Reader™
Certified Realm Reader®
Unicorn Healing [Student] Practitioner® [To be certified in February 2016]
Certified Advanced Angel Tarot and Oracle Card Reader™
Certified [in] Indigo Awakening Studies™

The certifications are not accredited unless they say so. The licenses are accredited. I have accreditations through The World Metaphysical Association International Membership Board as, "hereby granted lifetime status by our organization," [as a], Registered Metaphysical Provider, and also through them, "has earned lifetime accreditation by our organization from this day forward." I have an accredited AAS (Associate's in Applied Science) in Vibrational Medicine that I earned from a combination of accredited credits through Hibiscus Moon Crystal Academy and then finished at Sierra Community College in California. And the licenses for Past Life Healer and Angel Therapy Practitioner come through Doreen Virtue's Angel University which has an accreditation as does Certified Crystal Healer (that one is actually a license even though it's just called, "Certified") which come through the National Certification Board for Therapeutic Massage & Bodywork (NCBTMB). I also have a recognition and license through The International Natural Healers Association, however I don't think they're actually accredited. The rest of the courses certifications are either unaccredited or they don't have licensing attached.

Also, my email and website listings in my signature are out of date... It should say www.UnicornTherapyOnline.com (http://www.UnicornTherapyOnline.com) and natalie@unicorntherapyonline.com and crystalline.dream@hotmail.com. I'm currently in the process of building CrystalHealingOnline.com as well as starting an in-person, hands-on crystal therapy business and am in the process of building capital for an office suite. I want to focus everything around crystal therapy at this point. Additionally though I work as a professional psychic for StarzPsychics.com and ZodiacPsychics.com. I hope that answers your questions... I've never heard of the Official Cherubim Elohim Seraphim Society - what is it?

AniaR
12-21-2015, 09:25 PM
yeah also after hating on hannah, she's now so brown nosing her all over.

AniaR
12-21-2015, 09:28 PM
yeh Doreen Virtue offers a lot of 'accreditation' but some of it seems on par with what mermaid schools offer mermaids. Like yeah, it's a thing and here's some experience, but not necessarily recognized outside of it.

anyway I keep thinking this thread says "barbie tails" LOL I dont know why

PhaylennMurúch
12-21-2015, 10:25 PM
it's really so transparent. She finally realized her epic screw up and is now trying to pass it off as "I've secretly wanted to mermaid! I LOVE Hannah! I'm one of you! forget my asshattery from before"

Mermaid Mystery
12-22-2015, 02:39 AM
she already got $120. damn, it's been almost a year for me and for the longest time I was only at like $11, what the heck? this is crazy.

AtlantisDreamer
12-22-2015, 05:44 AM
yeh Doreen Virtue offers a lot of 'accreditation' but some of it seems on par with what mermaid schools offer mermaids. Like yeah, it's a thing and here's some experience, but not necessarily recognized outside of it.

anyway I keep thinking this thread says "barbie tails" LOL I dont know why

There are mermaid schools?! I want to get a certification in mermaid anything - mermaid magick, mermaid healing, mermaid therapy... Do they have that out there? And if so, where?

-Annwyn-
12-22-2015, 06:14 AM
Unfortunately I don't sell the blankets! Lol. I wasn't advertising them, I was gushing about just having bought one, or rather, will be getting one for Christmas from my mother. I couldn't sew so much as a napkin if my life depended on it, lol.
My signature is not actually current though - I have MORE certifications and licenses now at this point!
My current credentials are...

Licensed Register Healer® as recognized by The International Natural Healers Association
Certified Crystal Healer®
Certified Practitioner of Crystal Medicine®
Certified Archangel Life Coach®
Licensed Angel Therapy Practitioner®
Licensed Past Life Healer®
Certified Angelic Medium®
Licensed Unicorn Healing Practitioner™
Certified Angel Practitioner®
Certified Angel Card Reader™
Certified Realm Reader®
Unicorn Healing [Student] Practitioner® [To be certified in February 2016]
Certified Advanced Angel Tarot and Oracle Card Reader™
Certified [in] Indigo Awakening Studies™

The certifications are not accredited unless they say so. The licenses are accredited. I have accreditations through The World Metaphysical Association International Membership Board as, "hereby granted lifetime status by our organization," [as a], Registered Metaphysical Provider, and also through them, "has earned lifetime accreditation by our organization from this day forward." I have an accredited AAS (Associate's in Applied Science) in Vibrational Medicine that I earned from a combination of accredited credits through Hibiscus Moon Crystal Academy and then finished at Sierra Community College in California. And the licenses for Past Life Healer and Angel Therapy Practitioner come through Doreen Virtue's Angel University which has an accreditation as does Certified Crystal Healer (that one is actually a license even though it's just called, "Certified") which come through the National Certification Board for Therapeutic Massage & Bodywork (NCBTMB). I also have a recognition and license through The International Natural Healers Association, however I don't think they're actually accredited. The rest of the courses certifications are either unaccredited or they don't have licensing attached.

Also, my email and website listings in my signature are out of date... It should say www.UnicornTherapyOnline.com (http://www.UnicornTherapyOnline.com) and natalie@unicorntherapyonline.com and crystalline.dream@hotmail.com. I'm currently in the process of building CrystalHealingOnline.com as well as starting an in-person, hands-on crystal therapy business and am in the process of building capital for an office suite. I want to focus everything around crystal therapy at this point. Additionally though I work as a professional psychic for StarzPsychics.com and ZodiacPsychics.com. I hope that answers your questions... I've never heard of the Official Cherubim Elohim Seraphim Society - what is it?


So how much does one pay to be conned with so much bullshit?

Merman Arion
12-22-2015, 07:16 AM
FACEPALM

Echidna
12-22-2015, 07:23 AM
So how much does one pay to be conned with so much bullshit?

I dunno, but I imagine the people selling certifications for talking to archangels and healing with pink unicorns are rolling around in it laughing, Scrooge style.


And the blankets pose a serious risk- you can't even walk in them, OMG

Echidna
12-22-2015, 07:35 AM
There are mermaid schools?! I want to get a certification in mermaid anything - mermaid magick, mermaid healing, mermaid therapy... Do they have that out there? And if so, where?

Mermaid schools teach how to swim in a tail, and sometimes other mermaid related skills like underwater posing, diver sign language, etc.

But if you want a "mermaid healing" certificate, I'm sure Ms Virtue has something like that somewhere already.
I'd be surprised if she didn't.

Sherielle
12-22-2015, 09:40 AM
she already got $120. damn, it's been almost a year for me and for the longest time I was only at like $11, what the heck? this is crazy.
Because she posted in a group that isn't just mermaids but also mermaid fans.

PearlieMae
12-22-2015, 10:05 AM
Unfortunately I don't sell the blankets! Lol. I wasn't advertising them, I was gushing about just having bought one, or rather, will be getting one for Christmas from my mother. I couldn't sew so much as a napkin if my life depended on it, lol.
My signature is not actually current though - I have MORE certifications and licenses now at this point!
My current credentials are...

Licensed Register Healer® as recognized by The International Natural Healers Association
Certified Crystal Healer®
Certified Practitioner of Crystal Medicine®
Certified Archangel Life Coach®
Licensed Angel Therapy Practitioner®
Licensed Past Life Healer®
Certified Angelic Medium®
Licensed Unicorn Healing Practitioner™
Certified Angel Practitioner®
Certified Angel Card Reader™
Certified Realm Reader®
Unicorn Healing [Student] Practitioner® [To be certified in February 2016]
Certified Advanced Angel Tarot and Oracle Card Reader™
Certified [in] Indigo Awakening Studies™

The certifications are not accredited unless they say so. The licenses are accredited. I have accreditations through The World Metaphysical Association International Membership Board as, "hereby granted lifetime status by our organization," [as a], Registered Metaphysical Provider, and also through them, "has earned lifetime accreditation by our organization from this day forward." I have an accredited AAS (Associate's in Applied Science) in Vibrational Medicine that I earned from a combination of accredited credits through Hibiscus Moon Crystal Academy and then finished at Sierra Community College in California. And the licenses for Past Life Healer and Angel Therapy Practitioner come through Doreen Virtue's Angel University which has an accreditation as does Certified Crystal Healer (that one is actually a license even though it's just called, "Certified") which come through the National Certification Board for Therapeutic Massage & Bodywork (NCBTMB). I also have a recognition and license through The International Natural Healers Association, however I don't think they're actually accredited. The rest of the courses certifications are either unaccredited or they don't have licensing attached.

Also, my email and website listings in my signature are out of date... It should say www.UnicornTherapyOnline.com (http://www.UnicornTherapyOnline.com) and natalie@unicorntherapyonline.com and crystalline.dream@hotmail.com. I'm currently in the process of building CrystalHealingOnline.com as well as starting an in-person, hands-on crystal therapy business and am in the process of building capital for an office suite. I want to focus everything around crystal therapy at this point. Additionally though I work as a professional psychic for StarzPsychics.com and ZodiacPsychics.com. I hope that answers your questions... I've never heard of the Official Cherubim Elohim Seraphim Society - what is it?

Sounds expensive.

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 10:23 AM
Where is that eye roll gif when I need it

PearlieMae
12-22-2015, 10:43 AM
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SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 10:52 AM
found it.

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PearlieMae
12-22-2015, 11:37 AM
That is so you!

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 06:01 PM
I couldn't help it and called her out on it.

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 06:01 PM
She just posted her gofundme on the mermania page

Starfrit
12-22-2015, 06:30 PM
I saw that! It took everything in me not to comment on her post...

Like, she attacked and insulted people in the mer-community and now she wants those same people to buy her a tail? Hell naw.


::Edit:: And she deleted it, lol. That didn't last long. :P

AtlantisDreamer
12-22-2015, 07:23 PM
Mermaid schools teach how to swim in a tail, and sometimes other mermaid related skills like underwater posing, diver sign language, etc.

But if you want a "mermaid healing" certificate, I'm sure Ms Virtue has something like that somewhere already.
I'd be surprised if she didn't.

I can already swim in a tail and have done some photography for an oceanographer. I was hoping you meant some sort of mermaid spirituality class. There are none out there though - no one anywhere offers anything like that. It's too bad...

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 07:30 PM
Wasn't there a screenshot saved? ::edit:: never mind I found it on page 84 but I can't see the screenshots

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 07:30 PM
Wait deleted what?

PhaylennMurúch
12-22-2015, 08:36 PM
oh she's posted it everywhere, in mermaids and mermens of facebook (that's how it's spelled) she posted it yesterday AND today.
I'd say something, I want to but she'd call bullying in a heartbeat

Madison MerFaerie
12-22-2015, 08:39 PM
Twice now she has posted to the MerMania page and both times the post has been deleted. Not sure if she's deleting her own posts or if the MerMania admins are doing it. JUST STOP IT ALREADY.

Props to SeaGlass for calling her out.

PhaylennMurúch
12-22-2015, 08:44 PM
I'd also like to know why she desperately wants a mermaid tail of silicone. If she's spending more than she's making then shouldn't she worry about, oh putting food on her table for her kids.
And she wants this tail now so she has it when she's ready? That's like me buying my 5 year olds motorcycles before they get done riding trikes

Starfrit
12-22-2015, 08:50 PM
I'll never understand the logic of it. The hell does she mean by "when she's ready?" If I bought a silicone tail right now "so I'd have it for when I'm ready" it'd just end up being a huge waste of money. That thing would be sitting around gathering dust for at least a year or two before I was a strong enough swimmer for it, and by then my weight and measurements will have changed significantly— it might not even fit me at that point!

If you openly admit that you aren't ready, YOU SHOULDN'T BUY IT.

Common sense ain't so bloody common, clearly.

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 09:17 PM
It's probably just an excuse just to gather money and spend it on other things.

also venessa deleted the posts twice. Saw her explain it before she took it down

MermaidSabrina
12-22-2015, 09:19 PM
For real,This women is bonkers!I've just come to agree with the conclusion that she's a Public pool bitch,no other explanation. :P

SeaGlass Siren
12-22-2015, 09:21 PM
Where is juku when you need him. I sense another video rant coming on.

dont mind me I'm just chilling here with a bottle of rum and some sugar cookies

Madison MerFaerie
12-22-2015, 09:24 PM
dont mind me I'm just chilling here with a bottle of rum and some sugar cookies

Dinner of champions.

MermaidSabrina
12-22-2015, 09:27 PM
Where is juku when you need him. I sense another video rant coming on.

dont mind me I'm just chilling here with a bottle of rum and some sugar cookies
I definitely agree with you Seaglass,Juku is the king of rants when he decides to put his fluke (foot?) down,Haha.

jukumerboii
12-23-2015, 02:04 AM
im right hereeeeeeeeeeee!!

video tomorrow!!

PhaylennMurúch
12-23-2015, 02:12 AM
im right hereeeeeeeeeeee!!

video tomorrow!!

yay!

I read that in your voice

Mermaid Mystery
12-23-2015, 03:11 AM
hey guys send me $300 so I can eat a lot of pizza when I'm ready

Merman Arion
12-23-2015, 05:21 AM
Interesting...
I'm now considering putting up a gofundme to make a sexy calendar. I know a photographer who knows how to make great butt pictures :eyebrows:

I will call it "Bottom of the sea" :lol: :rotfl: :mermaid kiss:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29762-Im-Just-Sayin-Selena-Gomez-gif-M2fx.gif

Merenneito Nerissa
12-23-2015, 05:31 AM
"Bottom of the sea"


:lol ^:

Spindrift
12-23-2015, 06:31 AM
Interesting...
I'm now considering putting up a gofundme to make a sexy calendar. I know a photographer who knows how to make great butt pictures :eyebrows:

I will call it "Bottom of the sea" :lol: :rotfl: :mermaid kiss:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29762-Im-Just-Sayin-Selena-Gomez-gif-M2fx.gif


Oh my gosh. Brilliant!

Ilyena
12-23-2015, 06:37 AM
Interesting...
I'm now considering putting up a gofundme to make a sexy calendar. I know a photographer who knows how to make great butt pictures :eyebrows:

I will call it "Bottom of the sea" :lol: :rotfl: :mermaid kiss:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29762-Im-Just-Sayin-Selena-Gomez-gif-M2fx.gif


...I'd probably pay for that. Would be on the lines of the firemen calendar.

SeaGlass Siren
12-23-2015, 06:42 AM
im right hereeeeeeeeeeee!!

video tomorrow!!

aw yisssssss

Starfrit
12-23-2015, 07:56 AM
Interesting...
I'm now considering putting up a gofundme to make a sexy calendar. I know a photographer who knows how to make great butt pictures :eyebrows:

I will call it "Bottom of the sea" :lol: :rotfl: :mermaid kiss:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29762-Im-Just-Sayin-Selena-Gomez-gif-M2fx.gif

http://www.kylevanpelt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Shut-Up-And-Take-My-Money-1024x1280.jpg

IllynReaver
12-23-2015, 09:34 PM
Interesting...
I'm now considering putting up a gofundme to make a sexy calendar. I know a photographer who knows how to make great butt pictures :eyebrows:

I will call it "Bottom of the sea" :lol: :rotfl: :mermaid kiss:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29762-Im-Just-Sayin-Selena-Gomez-gif-M2fx.gif

All I can think of is fishbutts now.

MermaidSabrina
12-23-2015, 10:35 PM
Interesting...
I'm now considering putting up a gofundme to make a sexy calendar. I know a photographer who knows how to make great butt pictures :eyebrows:

I will call it "Bottom of the sea" :lol: :rotfl: :mermaid kiss:

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29762-Im-Just-Sayin-Selena-Gomez-gif-M2fx.gif This is probably the greatest thing I've seen all day xD

Merman Arion
12-23-2015, 11:13 PM
I love you all :rotfl:

At first I was thinking something like "bottom of the sea : a place of wonders" but I guess it was... Too long perhaps? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm very proud of the work I did on my butt but to call it "a place of wonders" is not up to me. Wait... Where is Keiris? :eyebrows:

Keiris
12-23-2015, 11:27 PM
I love you all :rotfl:

At first I was thinking something like "bottom of the sea : a place of wonders" but I guess it was... Too long perhaps? :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm very proud of the work I did on my butt but to call it "a place of wonders" is not up to me. Wait... Where is Keiris? :eyebrows:

I would definitely consider that the 8TH Wonder of the World.

SeaGlass Siren
12-24-2015, 06:30 AM
^ why the 8th?
Oh wait nvm 8 looks like a butt

Spindrift
12-24-2015, 06:47 AM
^ why the 8th?
Oh wait nvm 8 looks like a butt


Congratulations. I hope you are all happy with yourselves. You made me spit out my drink.

​You guys made me ink

SeaGlass Siren
12-24-2015, 06:56 AM
I can think of another who might ink themselves at the thought of arions fish butt.

somebody's gonna get inked. Somebody. I'm not going to say who.

SeaGlass Siren
12-24-2015, 06:57 AM
I vote we give his butt an entity and she shall be called "sandy cheeks"

Mermaid Jaffa
12-24-2015, 07:13 AM
I vote we give his butt an entity and she shall be called "sandy cheeks"

There is a place in London called, Crouch End...

Then he'd be known as, Sandy Cheeks of Crouch End.

Starfrit
12-24-2015, 07:56 AM
This thread keeps getting better and better.

I love you guys so much. <3

Merman Arion
12-24-2015, 08:30 AM
OMG guys!! I just died of laughter while being at work! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay. Fuck it. It's Christmas. I was planning to write a post somewhere before the end of the year on the "better-body goals" thread about my weight and my experiences in 2015. Instead, I will do it later today and all of you will get a new - but safe for work - picture of my merman butt. How does that sound? ;)

Mermaid Jaffa
12-24-2015, 08:37 AM
OMG guys!! I just died of laughter while being at work! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay. Fuck it. It's Christmas. I was planning to write a post somewhere before the end of the year on the "better-body goals" thread about my weight and my experiences in 2015. Instead, I will do it later today and all of you will get a new - but safe for work - picture of my merman butt. How does that sound? ;)
Yea! Just make sure all your fins are laying flat, or we'll get the wrong idea again!

SeaGlass Siren
12-24-2015, 08:58 AM
LOL

Starfrit
12-24-2015, 11:19 AM
OMG guys!! I just died of laughter while being at work! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay. Fuck it. It's Christmas. I was planning to write a post somewhere before the end of the year on the "better-body goals" thread about my weight and my experiences in 2015. Instead, I will do it later today and all of you will get a new - but safe for work - picture of my merman butt. How does that sound? ;)

IT TRULY IS CHRISTMAS :swoon:

AniaR
12-24-2015, 12:01 PM
IM GOING TO SEE YOU IN A WEEK ARION, IN PERSON. AHHH. I HAVE BEEN PRACTISING MY FRENCH

LouLouBelle
12-24-2015, 12:51 PM
There is a place in London called, Crouch End...

Then he'd be known as, Sandy Cheeks of Crouch End.

There's also a place on the outskirts of London called Pratt's Bottom... [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Seriously, I've just laughed so hard reading through this thread!!


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AtlantisDreamer
12-24-2015, 12:55 PM
Sounds expensive.

Yes, I've spent probably $10,000 or more at this point. But I take the courses because I love them and I love to learn about healing and psychic ability and metaphysics... I find it all so interesting and it's always self-help for me in that in order to learn to perform these different healing modalities on other people, we always first have to learn how to perform them on ourselves. I am on disability for major depression recurrent and reflex sympathetic dystrophy. I don't have a lot to do during the day and I suffer from a lot of pain. A lot of these healing courses have helped me and improved my conditions substantially - so that is why I have taken so many. I don't care about the certifications except in a couple of the courses that I intend to one day start my own business in... The certifications are just a side note to taking classes in healing modalities because the topics interest me and some of the methods significantly help me with my conditions. The ones that have become important to me as practices I'd like to become a practitioner in are... Unicorn Healing Practitioner, Angel Therapy Practitioner, Certified Crystal Healer, Certified Practitioner of Crystal Medicine, and Certified Archangel Life Coach :)

Keiris
12-24-2015, 01:34 PM
^ why the 8th?
Oh wait nvm 8 looks like a butt

Because the previous famous Seven Wonders of the world have been around for centuries. Arion's ass has only been around for a couple decades.:lol:

Mermaid Wesley
12-24-2015, 07:08 PM
Hey guys keep it respectful in this thread. No bashing or meanness allowed alright?
You don't have to share beliefs with someone to be respectful of them, hm?


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MermaidSabrina
12-25-2015, 11:28 AM
IM GOING TO SEE YOU IN A WEEK ARION, IN PERSON. AHHH. I HAVE BEEN PRACTISING MY FRENCH Is Mermania really that close?!? :yay:

AtlantisDreamer
12-26-2015, 07:47 AM
Hey guys keep it respectful in this thread. No bashing or meanness allowed alright?
You don't have to share beliefs with someone to be respectful of them, hm?


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Thank you, I was feeling rather picked on and thinking about not even returning to this site anymore to be honest...

AtlantisDreamer
12-26-2015, 07:47 AM
My religion isn't something funny to me...

PearlieMae
12-26-2015, 09:10 AM
Thank you, I was feeling rather picked on and thinking about not even returning to this site anymore to be honest...

My apologies...I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable. I can be a real bitch sometimes, and it was uncalled for. I hope you accept my apologies.

Religion was never mentioned.

Snuggling up in a mermaid blankie in the depths of winter sounds lovely.

AtlantisDreamer
12-26-2015, 10:48 AM
It's okay. That stuff is my religion though - I'm a Spiritualist. I wasn't trying to advertise or anything though, so maybe people got the wrong idea. I was just listing the things I feel that I've succeeded in/achieved/personal achievements. So I apologize if there was a confusion...

Echidna
12-26-2015, 11:53 AM
Thank you, I was feeling rather picked on and thinking about not even returning to this site anymore to be honest...

Sorry you feel this way.

You should be aware that listing your titles in your signature will prod people who are likewise interested in spirituality to ask about it.
You should be also aware that many people in the spirituality scene are scammers.

There is much more to it than just slapping the terms "angel" or "crystal" onto anything like D. Virtue does.
I would say much more, but it's your life and your money, and I don't want to derail your thread again.

PearlieMae
12-26-2015, 11:54 AM
Sorry you feel this way.

You should be aware that listing your titles in your signature will prod people who are likewise interested in spirituality to ask about it.
You should be also aware that many people in the spirituality scene are scammers.

There is much more to it than just slapping the terms "angel" or "crystal" onto anything like D. Virtue does.
I would say much more, but it's your life and your money, and I don't want to derail your thread again.

Exactly this! :clap:

Enjoy your mermaid blanket! Be well!

Starfrit
12-26-2015, 12:15 PM
Sorry you feel this way.

You should be aware that listing your titles in your signature will prod people who are likewise interested in spirituality to ask about it.

There's "asking about it" and then there's straight-up attacking someone and making fun of them like they're an idiot. Guess which option most of you went for?

AtlantisDreamer
12-26-2015, 04:05 PM
Just because I have SOME certifications by Doreen Virtue doesn't mean she's the ONLY teacher I've ever had or studied under or the only person I have credentials from. Furthermore, as I said, I was listing my accomplishments/achievements... My actual focus is on holistic healing methods, particularly Crystal Healing, which I got a certification from a school that was fully accredited and led me to getting my AAS (Associate's in Applied Science) in Vibrational Medicine at Sierra Community College later on. I feel like you are still dismissing me and treating me like an idiot or a layperson of Doreen Virtue, which I'm not. Like I said, just because I've taken licenses and certifications from her doesn't mean I'm in some, "idiot club," or that Angel Therapy is even a main focus of mine... You know some people take courses just out of interest or to explore new concepts - that doesn't automatically mean the person is a worshipper of that theory or belief system or a follower of a specific teacher...

AtlantisDreamer
12-26-2015, 04:06 PM
You all - except for a few of you... Are making assumptions. And assume = ass out of u and me

AtlantisDreamer
12-26-2015, 04:07 PM
There's "asking about it" and then there's straight-up attacking someone and making fun of them like they're an idiot. Guess which option most of you went for?

Thank you!

MermaidDalni
12-26-2015, 04:22 PM
How about we all just decide that were done with this thread, hm? If people are saying things that offend you, unsubscribe from the thread and stop checking it, as said before people have the right to their beliefs. To be devils advocate, Atlantisdreamer, they dont have the same beliefs, yes, but they're sharing those beliefs the same way you're sharing yours in this thread. And if we've found that someone is offended by something we say or believe, let's avoid continuing the conversation and offending them further, alright everyone? People believe in different things whether it's crystal energy, god, jesus, or a giant spaghetti monster. Let's stop feeding the drama fire and let the thread die!

Back to the original topic, those blankets are lovely, and I'm glad you've enjoyed your Christmas present!

PearlieMae
12-26-2015, 04:24 PM
Holy carp! You took the one person who was defending you and turned it all around!

Throw your money and time where you like. Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one and everyone else's stinks.

I'm sorry I ever inquired about your "credentials". I wish you very happy and warm times in your mermaid blanket tail.

I am out of here.

AniaR
12-26-2015, 07:31 PM
Well. That escalated quickly!

Mermaid blankets for all!

Or Barbie's! Lol

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SeaGlass Siren
12-27-2015, 08:35 AM
This is why we can't have nice things.

-Annwyn-
12-27-2015, 11:08 AM
This is why we can't have nice things.

And it's also why the aliens won't talk to us.

Spindrift
12-27-2015, 11:13 AM
Stop.

You keep throwing around the words 'healing', 'Therapy', 'Licenced', 'board certified' and 'medicine' in with 'vibrations' 'angels' and 'mermaids'. Ever wonder why they won't let you practice in a hospital? I personally think that what you have 'studied' is insulting to people who have spent years in medical school for the purposes of actually helping actual injured people heal (both physical and mental illness).

By all means, I am willing to change my opinion upon the presentation of peer reviewed (as in a Harvard medical journal, for example) evidence that what you have learned is scientifically proven. But until then, I am annoyed that someone has conned you and annoyed that you would use such unproven methods to dupe others. You are either lying, or mentally ill.

I'm sorry for coming off sounding harsh, I really don't mean to. I just don't buy it. And this is the drama thread. I refuse to make assumptions, so I am skeptical until proven otherwise.

Everyone knows I'm all for science 100% but different people can find meaning and hope in some beliefs better than drugs or hospitals can provide. Therapy is therapy, it just depends on how the person is open to receiving it.

In my observations psychics and tarot readers for the most part are in the business of selling closure, rather than actually allowing you to talk to the dead and for telling the future and all that. Of course there are scammers out there and also just crazy people, but there are also people that just partake in unusual things for fun. Like most Wiccans I personally know do it to find an identity for themselves. Sometimes it can be tough to swallow but I wouldn't knock on it unless it's hurting someone.

Also even peer-reviewed has been known to be faulty before, it's just the best that we've got until proven otherwise.

Starfrit
12-27-2015, 11:22 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2ancbav.jpg

Spindrift
12-27-2015, 11:22 AM
Furthermore this forum is supposed to be an open place. I'm sure AtlantisDreamer has already had to deal with pressure/people in her offline life for her choices and preferences. She doesn't also need it from us.

-Annwyn-
12-27-2015, 11:28 AM
Everyone knows I'm all for science 100% but different people can find meaning and hope in some beliefs better than drugs or hospitals can provide. Therapy is therapy, it just depends on how the person is open to receiving it.

In my observations psychics and tarot readers for the most part are in the business of selling closure, rather than actually allowing you to talk to the dead and for telling the future and all that. Of course there are scammers out there and also just crazy people, but there are also people that just partake in unusual things for fun. Like most Wiccans I personally know do it to find an identity for themselves. Sometimes it can be tough to swallow but I wouldn't knock on it unless it's hurting someone.

Also even peer-reviewed has been known to be faulty before, it's just the best that we've got until proven otherwise.


I deleted the post because I thought maybe it sounded harsh after all. In light of this, nothing I can do about it, but I'll throw my answer in anyway.

Psychics and tarot readers all rely on cold reading and the power of suggestion. Anyone can do it. It's nothing but guessing games and card tricks. Of course, there's nothing wrong with the entertainment value of it, but there are people actually hurting who are coming to those charlatains, paying large amounts of money for a conducive answer that would make them feel good, when they should be getting actual grief or financial counselling.

I mean just look at Sylvia Browne and all her failures. And she isn't an island.

AniaR
12-27-2015, 11:28 AM
I'm sorry Atlantis's thread escalated the way it did. I think it would of been one thing had she made a post about her beliefs open to discussion, but everyone kinda jumped on her based on her signature...

yeah I am someone who appreciates hard science, and also gets annoyed when scammers join the community... but I don't think Atlantis did anything that shows she's trying to exploit the community in any way like some previous people have tried to do. She just has a different system of beliefs is all.

My comment about Doreen Virtue was merely a comparison. I think Doreen is actually a really nice person but she too had to leave mernetwork because she found it a bit hostile here.

-Annwyn-
12-27-2015, 11:28 AM
Furthermore this forum is supposed to be an open place. I'm sure AtlantisDreamer has already had to deal with pressure/people in her offline life for her choices and preferences. She doesn't also need it from us.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

-Annwyn-
12-27-2015, 11:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2ancbav.jpg


Asking someone for proof to back up their claim is not a terrorist action.

-Annwyn-
12-27-2015, 11:34 AM
I'm sorry Atlantis's thread escalated the way it did. I think it would of been one thing had she made a post about her beliefs open to discussion, but everyone kinda jumped on her based on her signature...

yeah I am someone who appreciates hard science, and also gets annoyed when scammers join the community... but I don't think Atlantis did anything that shows she's trying to exploit the community in any way like some previous people have tried to do. She just has a different system of beliefs is all.

My comment about Doreen Virtue was merely a comparison. I think Doreen is actually a really nice person but she too had to leave mernetwork because she found it a bit hostile here.

Doreen lies to people for exorbitant amounts of money. I'm a really nice person - I still don't manipulate and lie to people for money. It's unethical and dishonest.

And I hope Atlantis is not planning to exploit the community. Just that listing all those important-sounding credentials on her signature would suggest otherwise. Otherwise, I got nothing against AD at all. Was just questioning is all.

Spindrift
12-27-2015, 11:39 AM
Asking someone for proof to back up their claim is not a terrorist action.

She never made a post about her beliefs, she talked about what she was interested in in her signature. Does her interests actually affect you at all? She didn't make a post offering her services. She made an unrelated thread about mermaid blankets.

I suggest that if it helps the two of you share the same online space that you look at it as a pastime or hobby. She deserves to talk about her interests just like you do. She also is under no obligation to back up her claims at all. This isn't the forum for that. She's not soliciting money and she hasn't tried to scam anyone. She's also not in any need to provide evidence, least of all to placate you. Please review the rules of the forum.

-Annwyn-
12-27-2015, 11:51 AM
She never made a post about her beliefs, she talked about what she was interested in in her signature. Does her interests actually affect you at all? She didn't make a post offering her services. She made an unrelated thread about mermaid blankets.

I suggest that if it helps the two of you share the same online space that you look at it as a pastime or hobby. She deserves to talk about her interests just like you do. She also is under no obligation to back up her claims at all. This isn't the forum for that. She's not soliciting money and she hasn't tried to scam anyone. She's also not in any need to provide evidence, least of all to placate you. Please review the rules of the forum.


No, you're absolutely right Spindrift. I'm bowing out of this one now. It's nearly 4am. Thanks.

Spindrift
12-27-2015, 11:55 AM
No, you're absolutely right Spindrift. I'm bowing out of this one now. It's nearly 4am. Thanks.

Thank you and sleep well! :)

AniaR
12-27-2015, 12:33 PM
and to move things along, watch this!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AUE4ZrMItI

Echidna
12-27-2015, 12:46 PM
haha, omg.
brutal!

and just as a sidenote: this is how I always feel about tree murder. It's bestial.

Starfrit
12-27-2015, 03:45 PM
Asking someone for proof to back up their claim is not a terrorist action.

Lol are you high right now? What does a meme I posted have to do with something being a terrorist action? Who said anything about terrorism?

Anyway, where's Arion with the drama-bulldozer?

AniaR
12-27-2015, 06:11 PM
I POSTED THE JINGEL-Y BELLS!

SeaGlass Siren
12-27-2015, 06:37 PM
All yall about to become poor unfortunate souls because I'm about to bibbitybop my fluke up your fishbutts

SeaGlass Siren
12-27-2015, 06:38 PM
But not really. I just needed an excuse to bust that line

IllynReaver
12-27-2015, 08:15 PM
Omg Raina that Jingle Bells video! I needed that laugh.

Keiris
12-27-2015, 10:57 PM
[QUOTE=SeaGlass Siren;229660]But not really. I just needed an excuse to bust that line[/QUOTE

It was FAB and I enjoyed that very much!:lol:

SeaGlass Siren
12-28-2015, 07:47 AM
:3

Merman Arion
12-28-2015, 08:16 AM
Anyway, where's Arion with the drama-bulldozer?

Too busy preparing my fishbutt for MerMania :mermaid kiss:

Keiris
12-28-2015, 10:32 AM
Too busy preparing my fishbutt for MerMania :mermaid kiss:

I am trying very hard to resist temptation to comment here:p

SeaGlass Siren
12-29-2015, 07:27 AM
He likes your butt and he cannot lie! You other shippers can't deny! When A swims in with an ittybittywaist and his butt is in K's face--

ok im done :P

Mermaid Jaffa
12-29-2015, 07:57 AM
and to move things along, watch this!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AUE4ZrMItI
Haha! From the start of the video, I was expecting to see Charlie the Unicorn!

Merman Arion
12-29-2015, 08:37 AM
He likes your butt and he cannot lie! You other shippers can't deny! When A swims in with an ittybittywaist and his butt is in K's face--

ok im done :P

I DIED :lol: :lol: :lol:

And I love you :hug:

SeaGlass Siren
12-29-2015, 10:38 AM
:mermaid kiss:

Keiris
12-29-2015, 11:48 PM
Seaglass! Bahahahahahaha! Your talents are really wasted here! And you're right:blush:

SeaGlass Siren
12-30-2015, 08:13 AM
Thank you thank you!

ill be here. All week!

PhaylennMurúch
01-14-2016, 03:15 PM
oh noes! whiner van whinerson blocked me. Now we need to all donate to her tail fund to prove that we're not bullying her

Mermaid Mystery
01-14-2016, 03:17 PM
she liked my comment even though it was directed at her lmao

Starfrit
01-14-2016, 03:37 PM
I really wanna just post a link to the music video for "Work, Bitch" by Britney Spears.

SeaGlass Siren
01-14-2016, 03:44 PM
Do it. Do it nao.

PhaylennMurúch
01-14-2016, 03:46 PM
then screen cap it 'cause I can't see

RomanLaveau
01-14-2016, 03:53 PM
Who is whiner van whinerson? Judy lol

PhaylennMurúch
01-14-2016, 03:55 PM
Who is whiner van whinerson? Judy lol
yes

SeaGlass Siren
01-14-2016, 04:00 PM
For real? Judy is back?

RomanLaveau
01-14-2016, 04:09 PM
For real? Judy is back?
Did she ever go away?...well people are really donating to her lmao but unfortunately she couldn't spell Syren correctly on her GoFundMe page (the small things frustrate me)

PhaylennMurúch
01-14-2016, 04:45 PM
she's also changed which tail inspired her. First it was the gator inspired one, now it's the lotus

SeaGlass Siren
01-14-2016, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if she was just scamming the ppl who donated. :/

PhaylennMurúch
01-14-2016, 10:33 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if she was just scamming the ppl who donated. :/
Her "reward" system sure points to it. Donate a certain amount of money and she'll give you a percentage off of something in her store. Give her $100 and get 45% off of something so you get to give her money twice

SeaGlass Siren
01-14-2016, 10:45 PM
Dear lord...

RomanLaveau
01-14-2016, 10:56 PM
she's also changed which tail inspired her. First it was the gator inspired one, now it's the lotus
Hahaha oh she messaged me and said tht my tail (the gator one) took her to find the lotus one, which is her "dream" tail...is her stuff tht good?

SeaGlass Siren
01-16-2016, 08:06 AM
Sigh.... Clearly she has no other creative tail design of her own ...

PearlieMae
01-16-2016, 12:28 PM
Did I miss a link to this?

PhaylennMurúch
01-17-2016, 03:10 PM
Did I miss a link to this?

I can't link because she blocked me, but it's in Mermaids of Facebook group

AniaR
01-17-2016, 03:49 PM
Oh when I asked her to stop using the word bullying cuz people were confused about her gofundme lol

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PhaylennMurúch
01-17-2016, 10:16 PM
Oh when I asked her to stop using the word bullying cuz people were confused about her gofundme lol

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I wonder if she still thinks that we're the same person, Raina

Ariel-Starfish
02-21-2016, 10:22 AM
I had a rough week! Have been overthinking to much and that's my struggle. I get really insucure about myself and when someone points out on me that moment, I'll explode.
( Read: I have asperger/Autism)

so here it go's:
I have been in this comunnity for a few years now and really have learned alot. I've seen people starting up on mermaiding and are now hailfway going pro. I al really happy to see how quickly they envolve over these short times etc. All these years I have seen mermaiding as a hobby and getting to know more people with the same intrest here on the forum.

Now, I always want to see the best in people and i'm always being positive and kond to them in every way. There is just one thing I can't stand: Pointing out on you or when they talk to you (online) and I always have the feeling they don't take their intention, but this is really how it makes me feel. And the worst is; these people pop up constanly all over my social media, posting every 'breath' they take and just get sooo much attention. Or at least I think it is.

This just makes me feel so small even I've been way longer in the comunnity.
And now - here it comes. Dealing with asperger I mostly overthink waaaay to much and interpretate some stuff everything wrong. (Esmecially when it's written)

I don't want any drama started or so. I'm just ranting my thoughts out that have been locked in my head for a while.

It just would be nice to get some respect, even when u are diffirent and maybe haven't accomplish much in metmaiding as others. I love it no matter what and doing it for the full 200%.

Love you all!

❤️

AniaR
03-11-2016, 08:48 PM
36035

fairly certain with timing and her relationship with him, this is in response to the merrowfins post

Saelyyia
03-11-2016, 08:56 PM
:rolleyes: Now see THAT behavior right there reminds me of Eric and his campaign against MerNetwork a while back.

Mermaid Momo
03-11-2016, 08:57 PM
^ what happened in the Merrow fins post? I've only seen ppl questioning his prices and his scales.

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AniaR
03-11-2016, 09:03 PM
we're bullies cuz we you know, stand up for Lorelei having her tail design stolen by eric, and then now being used by matty, who admits he knew it was stolen. BULLIES I TELLS YAH

I wrote a rant on my fb page:

Rant time!Members speak up in support of a mermaid who has her tail design stolen. Eden posts this. Why do you all feed into it? Do people not realize the people complaining the most about mernetwork being bullies, are people who came on and broke rules and got reprimanded? Instead of being accountable for their actions, they go the "wah bullies" route and so many of you feed into it.This is literally because members tried to support someone who has something stolen. So I hope you all feel great by saying yeah no bullies, while actually empowering theft.The mermaid community would not be what it is without mernetwork. period. We had no place for mermaids before it. No exchange of information. No community. Sure, not everyone on there is great, but show a little respect for something that shaped the community long before many current mermaids even had tails. (hilarious these same people will PM the mernetwork FBpage asking to be featured)
Mernetwork is the reason we started being able to hold thief accountable. Stop people from getting scammed. Learn to make tails. Meet new mermaids.
Yeah like EVERY OTHER FORUM ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE PLANET there will be people who suck, but how insulting is it to come and use all the info I have put On there, Iona has put on there, and many others, literally 100s of hours for free to help you with you mer life. Use that info, and then turn around and cry bully when told to act appropriately? What a slap in the face. So we're good enough for you to take for us, but not good enough that you can acknowledge it. Gotta pretend it's all beneath you.
Everyone rallied around Eden on mernetwork when Mernation threw her under the bus. Everyone on mernetwork rallied around Eden and tried to help her when she was banned from swimming in her tail.
I am just so tired of this BS. You don't have to like mernetwork but geesh. Stop overusing the word bully. It underminds people who have actually suffered.
I wish more mermaids would look for actual truth instead of flocking like sheeps to these things.
Public post and since she has me blocked I can't say what i think on her post, so I'll say it here.
To be clear I think there are a LOT of ways mernetwork can be improved. But bullying isnt tolerated. People are banned for it. SO don't give me this crap honestly. Anytime anyone is an asshole, everyone jumps on them to stop it.

Mermaid Lorelei
03-11-2016, 09:07 PM
Oh ugh. ��

Little_Orca
03-11-2016, 10:40 PM
If you know it's stolen... why use it?

Mermaid Alea
03-11-2016, 10:49 PM
I don't even know what to say... :(

Winged Mermaid
03-11-2016, 11:40 PM
I left a comment, but she deleted it and blocked me.

My comment:

"You say you want to be supportive and uplifting, yet you're bashing a whole group of people, saying they are rude and unkind. To be honest there is a LOT (and I mean a LOT a lot) more drama on Facebook than on MerNetwork. People just don't see it all because of restricted access to people's friends only or restricted friends posts; also because it is scattered through feeds and not everyone sees posts even if they are public. On a forum it's all out in the open and organized to be seen and accessed easily. So while it seems like a lot more, it really isn't.



Yes, there are some people on the forum and in the community who can be harsh and even toxic. But that happens in every single community everywhere. Even Churches and other religious groups, even knitting groups, even departments in hospitals, anything you can think of- has this problem. It's human nature. It being online doesn't help, but anyone who has been on the internet knows that people can be worse online than in person. Youtube comments, reddit, facebook, ect, have pools of toxicity when it's all out in the open for the public. I've had lots of people say that MerNetwork is the most polite and calm forum they've run across. For those that frequent public online forums, it's pretty obvious how much more tame it is than the vast majority of other places :P Difference is that MerNetwork actually pays attention and disciplines people who are bullying others, unlike most other social media that doesn't care about it's users.






And honestly, having a open forum for the community has done a LOT of good. And not just in spreading helpful information either (like a ton of tail makers have learned how to make tails there, leading to more options and healthy competition in the tail market, when it use to just be 3 people making tails). Just because something is labeled "drama" does not mean it is not truthful or helpful to the community as a whole. There have been a lot of people who have been held accountable for their wrongdoings publicly, and that has helped the community. For instance, scammers who try and take advantage of the community.
There are also many instances where disagreements or misunderstandings are cleared up on the forum. Like today for example, when there was a misunderstanding regarding Matty and a specific design. If that was not public, the air on that subject may have never been cleared, and now it is.






Also, people on MerNetwork rallied for you and asked how they could help when you got banned from swimming in your local pool. They also did when MerNation ignored you and even tried to discredit you after you tail started falling apart.


Yes, there can be drama. Not all "drama" is drama though- a lot of it ends up being helpful and moves the community forward and helps it become better. I and many others have made good, and even life long, friends through MerNetwork. We are always looking to help people realize their dream of becoming a memaids. Myself and others have spent 100s, even 1000s of hours, not only making resources, but helping people individually. So I think that your broad statement that we don't uplift people, that we're rude and unkind, is very misplaced. You yourself have benefited and been uplifted by the same forum, by the same people, that you're now talking down about.


And no, MerNetwork isn't for everyone. And I respect that. For example, I wouldn't get mad at someone just because I like to use Facebook and they like to use Twitter- that's just silly. But I will speak my piece in a situation like this when someone is trying to make a broad false generalization about a community like this.


I hope you know that this is truly coming from a place of sincerity and concern, and not one of animosity."

Saelyyia
03-11-2016, 11:41 PM
I am so glad you kept it. I was gonna screen shot it but I didn't get around to it in time.

Mermaid Alea
03-12-2016, 12:49 AM
Well said Iona. The nice thing about Mernetwork is people can't just delete someone else's comment because they don't like it. You get to see the facts and see everyone's side of things.

AniaR
03-12-2016, 09:09 AM
Haha and right after mernetwork got hacked... Lol

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SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 09:20 AM
World war SEA.

Winged Mermaid
03-12-2016, 09:27 AM
Yes, just a few minutes after I posted here was when the attack was.. I just realized that :(

Rett
03-12-2016, 10:39 AM
...What a coincidence :rolleyes: :doh:

PearlieMae
03-12-2016, 10:47 AM
Holy carp! See what I miss when I decide to sleep in for once? :rollover:

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 10:49 AM
I feel the same way :P

Mermaid Russet
03-12-2016, 11:12 AM
Whooaaa somebody hacked Mernetwork?? Yikes! I'm with Pearlie Mae: the one day I slept in... Yikes

Saelyyia
03-12-2016, 12:38 PM
And the bs continues... These were the replies to the post as f this morning http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160312/27f5db44ba78f89308f9eeb71cf8d2e0.jpg

Merman Arion
03-12-2016, 12:47 PM
http://replygif.net/i/894.gif

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 01:02 PM
Lol starting another forum isn't gonna start anything. It just divides the community further. "We are better than you because we just want glitter and sparkles and all you bullies can go suck it" (not that glitter and sparkles isn't a bad thing, I wouldn't mind it)

Merman Arion
03-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Lol starting another forum isn't gonna start anything. It just divides the community further. "We are better than you because we just want glitter and sparkles and all you bullies can go suck it".

THEM :

https://31.media.tumblr.com/73a7f6db6e1a530c6aba0b8c11cdd007/tumblr_mud5fmdBhh1ql5yr7o1_500.gif

ME :

http://i.imgur.com/SlXntOW.gif

Saelyyia
03-12-2016, 01:15 PM
It's not that it causes more problems. It's just watching history repeat. We as a community have been down this road before

PearlieMae
03-12-2016, 02:05 PM
Yeah...My forehead hurts from slapping it.

Mermaid Lorelei
03-12-2016, 02:07 PM
I hate to even suggest it, but did this all blow up because I asked a question about merrowfins?

Merman Dan
03-12-2016, 02:34 PM
And knowing is half the battle...

Merman Arion
03-12-2016, 02:41 PM
I hate to even suggest it, but did this all blow up because I asked a question about merrowfins?

I hate to be the one saying it but in my honest opinion, it was the starting point.

NOT YOUR FAULT THOUGH.

https://media.giphy.com/media/XEmhUht7W2CNq/giphy.gif

Madison MerFaerie
03-12-2016, 02:59 PM
The proverbial straw that broke the camel's back....Not your fault at all.

When folks become defensive so quickly and end up bashing the community, you have to wonder what's been brewing under the surface for so long that is causing that knee-jerk reaction.

It wasn't anything you did, darling. You are fabulous and most of us on here know it!

Mermaid Mystery
03-12-2016, 02:59 PM
reminds me of the time someone tried to start their own mermaid forum. isn't it a bit funny that they're acting like the person they condemn? hm…

Merenneito Nerissa
03-12-2016, 03:01 PM
When folks become defensive so quickly and end up bashing the community, you have to wonder what's been brewing under the surface for so long that is causing that knee-jerk reaction.


This... :/

Madison MerFaerie
03-12-2016, 03:03 PM
isn't it a bit funny that they're acting like the person they condemn? hm…
36040

AniaR
03-12-2016, 03:26 PM
Don't blame yourself, but my opinion is yes. Eden is connected to Matty.

Honestly idgaf! Lol. Hate on folks go make your own forum. Eden unprovoked went after the forum and deleted reasonable comments that corrected her. This is the woman christomer cheated on with. Who is she to judge anyone?????

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Merman Arion
03-12-2016, 03:42 PM
reminds me of the time someone tried to start their own mermaid forum.

BIGGEST FAIL OF THE YEAR

https://m.popkey.co/d21132/Y9vgE.gif

https://m.popkey.co/d3d881/jdyoe.gif

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 04:15 PM
Don't blame yourself, but my opinion is yes. Eden is connected to Matty.

Honestly idgaf! Lol. Hate on folks go make your own forum. Eden unprovoked went after the forum and deleted reasonable comments that corrected her. This is the woman christomer cheated on with. Who is she to judge anyone?????

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Snap Raina went there.

AniaR
03-12-2016, 05:08 PM
Vanora, Matty, Eden, and christomer... All admins on a new group In fb. No coincidence there. Right folks?

Honestly. People should be ashamed.

Lorelei rightfully is concerned her design is being used yet again.

Matty admits he knows the design is stolen.

Vanora freaks out at people.

People hold Matty and vanora accountable.

Eden, Matty's former business partner and roommate makes callout post on mernetwork.

Mernetwork is hacked, and one of these people used to threaten that all the time and also admitted to having stevi ( fidhbutts before her downfall) phone hacked. Stole her nude photos. And posted it on a revenge porn website and took full credit at the time. ( documented on here previously, same person put non nude photos of me on there and encouraged people on the forum to harass me)

All that happens but guess what, we are the bullies. Cuz everyone politely stood up for Lorelei.

Ironic, isn't it??

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Mermaid Lorelei
03-12-2016, 05:14 PM
:rolleyes:

Merman Arion
03-12-2016, 05:28 PM
I have checked that group. I'm surprised some mers here that I'm friends with also on Facebook decided to join them.

But that's their choice and I will respect that. I just hope they won't get burned.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/meh_emma_stone.gif

This will be my last post for today.
Tomorrow in the morning, I'm gonna have a small meet up with some french parisian merfolks at the pool.

I pray that drama won't explode again during my sleep.

"Bonne nuit" (good night!)

:bed now:

shimmygoddess
03-12-2016, 05:32 PM
good riddance!


I have checked that group. I'm surprised some mers here that I'm friends with also on Facebook decided to join them.

But that's their choice and I will respect that. I just hope they won't get burned.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/meh_emma_stone.gif

This will be my last post for today.
Tomorrow in the morning, I'm gonna have a small meet up with some french parisian merfolks at the pool.

I pray that drama won't explode again during my sleep.

"Bonne nuit" (good night!)

:bed now:

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 05:39 PM
I think Eden shouldn't have stuck her nose in. Like it literally had nothing to do with her. But I shouldn't be talking. :P

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 05:46 PM
Could've just stopped at "ok Matt knew after the fact that it was stolen". We all know his credentials as a tailmaker and how creative he can be. Vanora saw the posts as an attack and yall were trying to clarify. Could've stopped there too. I don't understand why there needs to be multiple people bashing one part of the community and hacking a forum and creating a new one. :|

Madison MerFaerie
03-12-2016, 05:50 PM
I have checked that group. I'm surprised some mers here that I'm friends with also on Facebook decided to join them.

But that's their choice and I will respect that. I just hope they won't get burned.

Don't forget that Facebook can let people add others to groups without permission. I woke up and was automatically added to that group by one of the admins.

It's one of those Facebook features that I absolutely loathe. In my opinion, if I want to join a group, I'll join or request (if it's a closed/private group). Maybe I'm going off the deep end here, but every time I get added to a group I feel a bit violated.

Truth be told, I'm staying in the group with my popcorn ready for drama to begin. Y'all know it's coming!

That said, I will undoubtedly be removed by one of their group admins just for saying that! :lol:

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 05:54 PM
What group is this?

shimmygoddess
03-12-2016, 05:56 PM
I don't understand why there needs to be multiple people bashing one part of the community and hacking a forum and creating a new one. :|

You should know the answer after all these years..LOL.....In most cases, its envy, jealousy, ect. Some people can't stand when others are happy and successful (and dont need them) and crave all the power and attention. They want others to look up to them and worship them and their successes and the ones that question their ethics are immediately portrayed to be the 'trouble makers' ect. or in some cases 'bullies.' This will never change. Like ever. Some people cannot change. Some will see the error of their ways and others will always continue to be mean, unethical, unprofessional, bully, whatever, but eventually they move on to bother someone else. It is a sad fact in any community there will be toxic people. We have to just continue to tell our truths and the ones that complain about it are always the ones actually causing the trouble. They will never admit they were wrong, will never apologize for being a dick, and the ones that blindly follow will always side with them, so we need to get over that and just purge all of them. All that said, I do want to thank those who have always stuck up for me over the last several years when our community was dealing with our own shit.

Mermaid Mystery
03-12-2016, 06:00 PM
(hacker voice) I'm in

SeaGlass Siren
03-12-2016, 06:01 PM
Of course I know lah, but I want THEM to answer :P but I love your response!

shimmygoddess
03-12-2016, 06:02 PM
I wish there were like buttons on here. LOL


Don't forget that Facebook can let people add others to groups without permission. I woke up and was automatically added to that group by one of the admins.

It's one of those Facebook features that I absolutely loathe. In my opinion, if I want to join a group, I'll join or request (if it's a closed/private group). Maybe I'm going off the deep end here, but every time I get added to a group I feel a bit violated.

Truth be told, I'm staying in the group with my popcorn ready for drama to begin. Y'all know it's coming!

That said, I will undoubtedly be removed by one of their group admins just for saying that! :lol:

AniaR
03-12-2016, 09:29 PM
anyone else reminded of this???

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/148979/3900673-0748244656-

Little_Orca
03-12-2016, 09:31 PM
^

Forget about the group. :eyebrows:

Winged Mermaid
03-12-2016, 09:34 PM
Just a reminder, the site was attacked, not hacked. Definitely a difference there but I know people use it as an umbrella term for black hat behavior ;)

And yeah, a few people said, "Well, we're gonna make our OWN mermaid forum!" in the past, and THOSE turned out SO well lol Just goes to show if you try and make a good thing but it's based on hate, it's probably not going to go very far.

AniaR
03-12-2016, 09:40 PM
It's just sad because

1) everyone on mernetwork supported Matty when he split from Mertailor and tried to do his own thing.

2) everyone supported Vanora when Mertailor screwed her over and she posted multiple times about being done with mermaids and we encouraged her

3) everyone supported eden with her multiple issues.

Like, but we're the bullies?? We're great if they can use us for support or information, but the minute someone holds them accountable, BULLIES.

Little_Orca
03-12-2016, 09:53 PM
http://cdn.meme.li/instances/51848061.jpg

AniaR
03-12-2016, 10:08 PM
psst there's like buttons when you use the phone ap haha

PearlieMae
03-12-2016, 10:13 PM
Ya know, truth be told, I am way too self-involved to care about any of this anymore.

:mermaid kiss:

Sherielle
03-12-2016, 10:51 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/a34808c2242cc81f0a7bcfad29acd4d8.jpg

AniaR
03-12-2016, 11:36 PM
I think most of us are. I think it's just important to keep track of it.

PearlieMae
03-12-2016, 11:56 PM
Agreed!

Little_Orca
03-13-2016, 12:01 AM
So, onto the next drama.

*Sips her tea like a mofo classy Downton Abby Mermaid*

Have you see the Duchess of Manah Tee? Oh my, she had such a long face. I bet it was that suitor of hers, Sey Kau that was causing her all that grief. Word has it, he is into, now get this, Miss Doll Phin. Can you imagine!?

*Sips more tea*

Calizaire
03-13-2016, 12:48 AM
Gosh, seems things went down!
I'm going to say, I asked to join the group. I don't like WHY it was formed; and the people who've contributed 100's of hours of time to people who've used this board for support have every right to be mad for being slapped in the face.
But just like it's wrong to paint everyone on this board with the same brush, it would also be wrong to paint everyone there with the same brush.
I always love to meet and talk to mers, and I find "us" against "them" stuff just sort of immature and silly.

SelkieLuna
03-13-2016, 12:57 AM
I'm new and I'm just sitting over here like

http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/jon-stewart-popcorn.gif

PhaylennMurúch
03-13-2016, 01:16 AM
I find it gross that Severn is one of the first people I saw on the member list, he's the guy who kept trashing Pearl after Merfest last year because he didn't get what he wanted out of the experience.

Mermaid Wesley
03-13-2016, 01:21 AM
ohhhh is that the group i was added to on facebook? makes sense.

Merman Arion
03-13-2016, 01:31 AM
I find it gross that Severn is one of the first people I saw on the member list, he's the guy who kept trashing Pearl after Merfest last year because he didn't get what he wanted out of the experience.

https://media.giphy.com/media/DjN8F2K8RQlPy/giphy.gif

http://data.whicdn.com/images/65725916/large.gif

Mermaid Mystery
03-13-2016, 01:33 AM
I find it gross that Severn is one of the first people I saw on the member list, he's the guy who kept trashing Pearl after Merfest last year because he didn't get what he wanted out of the experience.

you mean the boob police? hahaha that guy is nuts.

Winged Mermaid
03-13-2016, 03:23 AM
Well, he hates MerNetwork becuase I shut that guy down for his BS. So, naturally, he'd be added to the group. Wonder if they'll go find Chris LaPointe and Kanti and add them too lol

Alesha Miamia Bott
03-13-2016, 04:27 AM
Lol. I'm with ya on that one. New here too also. Lol.

Alesha Miamia Bott
03-13-2016, 04:28 AM
<--- Same boat.


I'm new and I'm just sitting over here like

http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/jon-stewart-popcorn.gif

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 09:20 AM
you mean the boob police? hahaha that guy is nuts.
Even after we tried to be nice he just goes and acts like a brat. "I didn't get what I want" "oh come swim with us!!" "I didn't get what I want still" "man what the fuck". "Omg why are you attacking me bullies! I'm gonna attack all mermaids by shaming them for showing their breasts"
like the fuck kind of logic does that make?

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 09:26 AM
So, onto the next drama.

*Sips her tea like a mofo classy Downton Abby Mermaid*

Have you see the Duchess of Manah Tee? Oh my, she had such a long face. I bet it was that suitor of hers, Sey Kau that was causing her all that grief. Word has it, he is into, now get this, Miss Doll Phin. Can you imagine!?

*Sips more tea*

xD

Merman Dan
03-13-2016, 10:21 AM
Gee, I almost feel bad, being left out of the group and whatnot.. but nahh... I'll just sit here with my coffee... I'm good.

AniaR
03-13-2016, 10:59 AM
Even after we tried to be nice he just goes and acts like a brat. "I didn't get what I want" "oh come swim with us!!" "I didn't get what I want still" "man what the fuck". "Omg why are you attacking me bullies! I'm gonna attack all mermaids by shaming them for showing their breasts"
like the fuck kind of logic does that make?

Don't forget he made fun of Alex's disability. Called him deaf and dumb and suggested he looked like a donkey.



OK so for people who WANT to be in the group, do whatever, but I think that's a bad choice. These are people who have repeatedly over years been absolute horrible. They count on people like you to give them chances or excuse away their behaviour so they can validate themselves in continuing to do it.

It enables them to be abusive toward members of the community and mernetwork.


For all the new people, Mernetwork isn't all that dramatic, it's just unfortunate people who have had long standing issues continue to stir up shit. Mernetwork was created so we could have a SAFE space to talk about what ACTUALLY goes on in the mer world. Back when we had our old forum, mertailor would try and get the forum taken down any time someone posted a mildly negative review of their experience with him. They try to censor us. They hate mernetwork because posts don't get deleted and anyone can come and see the proven track record of behaviour and it affects their business. But it's not mernetwork that's actually causing them to lose business, it's their own bad behaviour!!!

When someone is speaking truth and providing proof and they can't argue it, the only thing they have to fall back on, is trying to discredit so you wont believe truth even when it's sitting in front of your face. And that has been the mertailor mission since day one, and anyone else who feels like mernetwork holds them accountable.

You will see very few posts in drama that could actually be qualified as bulling, and those posters are always reprimanded (even when their name calling might be accurate). In reality, it's these provokers who cause all the problems, who do all the name calling, who make threats, who try to do damage and then go cry about it when Iona suspends them calling us all Bullies.

I think the drama hangs around though because we do go to war for the right to speak our TRUTH. An example for all you newbies: Mernetwork was the first place people could post honest reviews and document experiences. Before that, mertailor would threaten anyone who wanted to express anything negative about their tail, and a guy named Adam Martyn made mermaids pay 6-10k for tails he never ever made. He just skipped town. AND NO ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT IT.

I made the first "negative" review about my terrible mertailor experience. (he charged me 1k for an alex plus tail that was shortr than the measurements I gave him by 10 inches and fell apart, and plus he claimed it was 'real' latex and the alex plus gave me blood poisoning) The dude went to actual WAR on me for YEARS. Years. He did everything he could to slander me so people wouldn't believe me. He sent me threats. He made fun of me. He tried to make it so no one awesome would work with me. He recruited other people to harass me. What I was saying was TRUTH I had photos and video and people could SEE it with their own eyes, that I'd been wronged. But so many people were afraid of mertailor so I got very little support. However, it did start to affect his business. Finally more and more people got inspired to speak out (though many citing they were terrified he would act the same way he did to them, as he did to me) and low and behold there was a year there where mertailor almost went bankrupt. The only thing that saved him was landing a tail for a lady gaga performance (which he greatly exaggerated the details of) and mermaid Melissa flipping from hating him, to once again deciding to publicly support him. Once he picked up steam again he's been an unstoppable force.

In my example with mertailor, I don't wanna ruin him. I think he serves a purpose in the community. I just wish he'd have better practices (like you know, NOT stealing from others. Those fins he makes that are separate from the tails? Oh I know the whole story about that one too and who he stole from to get that) He seems like such an innovator but there's a long list of people afraid to speak out because he can be totally insane when he sets his targets on people.

It's shit like that why we NEED mernetwork and why people NEED to be able to have a space to talk about their experiences without being shamed for "drama". It seems our community takes anything where there are two sides and labels it drama.

With Matty, I am totally disappointed. I championed the guy when he split from eric even though eric eluded that Matty was the one who killed the fish in his pond. (I messaged eric directly about this, because I suspected someone else in the community. He did not name matty but certainly eluded to him. Whether that was true, or just eric trying to cause problems for matty I dont know. Point is, I gave matty a chance despite that stuff). I invited people to like his page, I supported him, even went to bat when a few well known community members came at him.

I think we can all agree that while we understand Matty did all these amazing contributions to mertailor's productions... that we'd prefer to see him branch away and do his own thing instead of continuing to try and do the kind of stuff he did there. It just makes it look like a mertailor knock off. But for me, it's the mertailor like behaviour that upsets me. I thought Matty was better than that. I really respected when he made his video addressing all the stuff that went down with mertailor. But for him to use a design he knows was stolen, and then to escalate all this drama?

Think about how much more this community would love and support Matty if he had said something like "oh shit, my bad, I didnt think of that. Really sorry lorelei! I won't use it." people would lose their minds in the BEST way to see him act like that. It would of been the best PR move ever. Would of really shown people he ISN'T a mertailor knock off.

But instead, we get drama in the thread. We get his old roomate making stupid posts, And mernetwork gets taken down with the community all riled up. It's like his warning : don't mess with me I will make shit happen.

And once again we get stuck in that loop where people no longer feel safe to speak truth.

And thats the shit I have a problem with. And that's why i think people need to STOP enabling these types of people in our mercommunity.

PearlieMae
03-13-2016, 11:17 AM
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shimmygoddess
03-13-2016, 11:24 AM
If people would just own up to their mistakes and apologize, life would be so much easier.

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 12:29 PM
Ah yes, shaming people with disabilities too. I forget that.
But also body shaming by calling Iona A whale.

Merman Arion
03-13-2016, 12:39 PM
Don't forget he made fun of Alex's disability. Called him deaf and dumb and suggested he looked like a donkey.


Ah yes, shaming people with disabilities too.

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Merman Arion
03-13-2016, 12:44 PM
TOTALLY OVER IT

http://i.imgur.com/CP6iH6E.gif

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Dancing Fish
03-13-2016, 12:53 PM
Yeah, this whole thing makes me so...umm...wow...wait....*fans self* is it hot in here? What were we talking about?

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 12:58 PM
Our thirst is real. :P

AniaR
03-13-2016, 01:50 PM
36054

His latest post lol I'm not even in this photo but I will wear my hashtag with pride. #redheadcanadian bitch

these are the people you enable when you do nothing.

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 01:53 PM
Uhm... So why did a bunch of mer people add this guy who apparently hates all mers in their group again?

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 01:54 PM
I hope he knows cookie Ramirez is in a very neutral territory and he just blatantly attacked her too.

Merman Arion
03-13-2016, 02:10 PM
Speaking of that group, I just found out that Matty blocked me today. Out of the blue. Just like that. And I did nothing to him, I supported his business as much as Raina did.

Given my past with Eden, I wouldn't be surprised if she played a part on this. Oh well.. *shrug*

https://45.media.tumblr.com/1eb618711b358123d219d301aba98ee5/tumblr_n7hmz9qQwt1qj4315o1_500.gif

AniaR
03-13-2016, 02:19 PM
Uhm... So why did a bunch of mer people add this guy who apparently hates all mers in their group again?

because they're desperate for ANYONE against mernetwork lol.

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 02:20 PM
On my end it still says he still has you on his friend list. (I don't have him added but it says two mutual friends and it shows who those friends are)

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 02:21 PM
because they're desperate for ANYONE against mernetwork lol.
Shh I know that but I want THEM to answer ;D

AniaR
03-13-2016, 02:21 PM
Speaking of that group, I just found out that Matty blocked me today. Out of the blue. Just like that. And I did nothing to him, I supported his business as much as Raina did.

Given my past with Eden, I wouldn't be surprised if she played a part on this. Oh well.. *shrug*

https://45.media.tumblr.com/1eb618711b358123d219d301aba98ee5/tumblr_n7hmz9qQwt1qj4315o1_500.gif

http://i.imgur.com/To4eMbH.png

Just burning bridges as per usual.

What started out as something small they need to escalate to an all on war.

Mermaid Mystery
03-13-2016, 02:22 PM
Even after we tried to be nice he just goes and acts like a brat. "I didn't get what I want" "oh come swim with us!!" "I didn't get what I want still" "man what the fuck". "Omg why are you attacking me bullies! I'm gonna attack all mermaids by shaming them for showing their breasts"
like the fuck kind of logic does that make?

I remember. He completely attacked me when I wasn't even there lmao. I was also like 14 at the time? asshole has nothing better to do.

Mermaid Mystery
03-13-2016, 02:22 PM
36054

His latest post lol I'm not even in this photo but I will wear my hashtag with pride. #redheadcanadian bitch

these are the people you enable when you do nothing.

didn't he swim in the same pool with his tail at merfest? what a freak.

SiaTheMermaid
03-13-2016, 02:24 PM
Talk about a mole hill turning into a mountain, this whole thing has escalated for some stupid reason

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Merman Arion
03-13-2016, 02:26 PM
On my end it still says he still has you on his friend list. (I don't have him added but it says two mutual friends and it shows who those friends are)

I just checked and you're right! I'm weirded out. Because I couldn't see his profil or the history of our chat earlier. Even his name on the group disappeared.

What the fuck happened? Facebook glitch? :eek:

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 02:30 PM
A strange coincidence. He hasn't removed me from his page :0 but I have been civil and supportive of Matty with his business.

Mermaid Wesley
03-13-2016, 03:33 PM
Well, he hates MerNetwork becuase I shut that guy down for his BS. So, naturally, he'd be added to the group. Wonder if they'll go find Chris LaPointe and Kanti and add them too lol

Daaaamn Iona back at it again with the sick burns

Ok but no seriously you are just SAVAGE lately and I LOVE IT. *polite applause from the sidelines*


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AniaR
03-13-2016, 03:45 PM
Iona is having none of their shit. lol

Mermaid Mystery
03-13-2016, 03:46 PM
this whole group is savage as hell lately I love it

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 03:54 PM
Savages! Savages! Barely even human!!!

SelkieLuna
03-13-2016, 03:55 PM
Merfolk are supposed to drown problematic men, right? ;)

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Madison MerFaerie
03-13-2016, 04:18 PM
Daaaamn Iona back at it again with the sick burns

I just imagined that in the "Damn Daniel" voice and laughed out loud. Excellent!

Mermaid Momo
03-13-2016, 04:51 PM
I sent a join request but if they know who I am they probably deny it and I know once I comment on some stuff they're going to delete me.


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Sabrina the Selkie
03-13-2016, 05:12 PM
Savages! Savages! Barely even human!!!
Well, we are half fish ;)

SeaGlass Siren
03-13-2016, 07:14 PM
NOW WE SOUND THE DRUMS OF WAR-- I mean--

kumbaya mofos, kumbaya !

Sabrina the Selkie
03-13-2016, 07:16 PM
XD

Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 10:20 AM
Life has put me so behind on things, I'm caught up on everything, but still confused at what tail design was stolen?

I saw that Eden made a post on FB about bullies, and then had the picture of the two fish saying they copied their tails.
Saw Rainas post, saw the connection and now I'm lost on what tail design.

Don't mean to be a bother 😐

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SeaGlass Siren
03-15-2016, 10:40 AM
Lorelei's tail design

Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 10:43 AM
I know it was loreleis, but was it her current Finfolk tail she has? Or did she have another design?

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AniaR
03-15-2016, 10:43 AM
My post actually has nothing to do with Eden going on about copying lol.

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Shimmer Mermaid
03-15-2016, 10:45 AM
Ah, I didnt make that clear, the whole crapping on mernetwork And crying bully thing. Like I said I'm behind, and getting back in the swing of things lol

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