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Mermaid Clara
11-19-2015, 11:22 AM
My aunt commented some rude things on my Facebook posts about me being upset about working on Thanksgiving and my schedule being changed making me work until 11pm instead of having to work 4 hours like my schedule original said. She thinks I'm being unthankful for my new job and that they are actually giving me hours compared to my last job. It's not that she said them it's just they way she said them I couldn't tell if she was being super rude or just being sarcastic. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/19/2b3d0e6b08e84839cb0d731f485c53db.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/19/45ce1a3af05d3c2f9e089f7f89d96749.jpg


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PearlieMae
11-19-2015, 11:55 AM
Re: Procrastination...I have a little trick that helps me when I feet scattered and unfocused. You'll need a kitchen time with an alarm and a dice (die?)

1. Make a list of six things that you need to work on, number them 1 to 6

2. Roll your dice and the number that comes up is the first thing you'll work on.

3. Set your kitchen timer for 15 minutes and work on that thing for that 15 minutes.

4. When the alarm goes off, you get to choose continue working on that thing for another fifteen minutes, or roll the dice and work on the new thing for fifteen minutes.

This way, you tackle your tasks in small chunks and things get done a little bit at a time...until your brain settles in to concentrate on the one thing that you keep setting your timer for fifteen more minutes.

Also, remember to stay hydrated. Being a little dehydrated can de-focus your attention drastically!

As for stress:

Go buy a big bag of ice, you know the kind...like when you're filling up a cooler for a picnic. Couple of bucks, tops. Go out into your driveway or someplace where there's a brick wall and throw ice cubes as hard as you can at the wall or the ground, smashing them to little bits. It's very satisfying to watch them explode and you burn off some of the stress energy with physical activity. By the time you're done with a five pound bag of ice, you'll feel like you could take on the world! (I like yelling when I throw, too, ninja-style.)

Weird, but they work for me!

:mermaid kiss:

Grey Gambit
11-19-2015, 12:12 PM
As for stress:

Go buy a big bag of ice, you know the kind...like when you're filling up a cooler for a picnic. Couple of bucks, tops. Go out into your driveway or someplace where there's a brick wall and throw ice cubes as hard as you can at the wall or the ground, smashing them to little bits. It's very satisfying to watch them explode and you burn off some of the stress energy with physical activity. By the time you're done with a five pound bag of ice, you'll feel like you could take on the world! (I like yelling when I throw, too, ninja-style.)

Weird, but they work for me!

:mermaid kiss:

I may have to try that; but I may just wait for it to snow again. :P

I've been getting really stressed out with my classes this semester, especially with biology because we had to to a group lab report a few weeks ago. Well... times up and no one knows where the most up to date version is and it was supposed to be submitted last Thursday. DX So the teacher told me just find a draft that's mostly put together and submit that today. I have classes almost back to back on Thursdays and won't have any time until 7, and I have another test due tonight for math and have to register for next spring.

I've been pretty good with keeping up with all my work until we hit the group project. At least now I know for next semester to watch out for those...

Mermaid Clara
11-19-2015, 01:00 PM
Ugh my dad is fat shaming me again today, he hasn't done it in like a month or two. So I guess I should have been expecting it to come but f**k you! I'm happy being me!
If anyone else is going through this I found this quote by JK Rowling! It's a good quote to live by.
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Sabrina the Selkie
11-19-2015, 03:20 PM
That IS a good quote.
Tell your dad to f*ck off.

SeaGlass Siren
11-19-2015, 05:28 PM
Ugh.
just...

ugh.

tell your dad to -- oh wait Sabrina beat me to it

Imogen Finnly
11-19-2015, 05:39 PM
I am trying to start a project where people would donate bags and I'd stuff em with toiletries ( for the homeless). And I asked my mom if her church wanted to donate and right away she was like "oh mija I do think know. They are busy, and I do think think so" like wtf. Every time in my life where I wanted her to do something and she didn't like the idea she would shoot me down with asked bullshit excuse like that.
"Wanna go to the beach?
"Mija, I have to shower, iron clothes, your father wouldn't want to baby sit (a 7 pound dog), if would have to shower and get ready..."
Oh Jesus fucking christ.

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Mermaid Momo
11-19-2015, 08:39 PM
I am trying to start a project where people would donate bags and I'd stuff em with toiletries ( for the homeless). And I asked my mom if her church wanted to donate and right away she was like "oh mija I do think know. They are busy, and I do think think so" like wtf. Every time in my life where I wanted her to do something and she didn't like the idea she would shoot me down with asked bullshit excuse like that.
"Wanna go to the beach?
"Mija, I have to shower, iron clothes, your father wouldn't want to baby sit (a 7 pound dog), if would have to shower and get ready..."
Oh Jesus fucking christ.

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You should've told her that it's part of being a christian/catholic (I'm just guessing since you said church) to give to the poor," wouldn't your church want to give to the poor in the name of God?"

My bitch (geeze, I've been posting here a lot as of late) So I run a little business on the side to raise money while I'm in school since jobs are no where to be found. My business is creating cosplay, and j-fashion things on commission. I recently finished a princess Jasmine for myself and I've gotten a lot of people looking for Disney costumes because of that. This is just one transaction I had with a potential customer:

Customer: Hi! I want a snow white costume, how much would that be?

me: depends on how detailed you want it. I offer 3 levels of details for Disney costumes (lists out 3 levels)

customer: I wan't the third level! (level 3 is the most detailed, using luxury fabrics, lots of hand sewn beading, overlays, etc. basically I try to create something a literal magical princess would wear)

me: Great! Level 3 snow whites begin at $400 not including shipping

customer: $400??! That's a lot for a costume! why so much? Can you go down to $100?

Me: I'm sorry, but I can't, you picked the most expensive option for the costume, and the material costs alone can't be covered by $100. You can choose one of the lower options to bring the price down, but I will warn you not even the first level is going to be $100

customer: Geez! you're a rip off! I could get the same thing from Ebay!

me: Thank you for contacting me! I hope you find what you want on Ebay. Have a good day!

customer: that's all? A good business woman would barter with me!

me: I'm not going to lower my prices to try and beat a cheap, costume satin, factory made product that will fall apart within a week or two. You get what you pay for.

customer: and such bad customer service! I was going to see if I could raise my budget but nevermind now!

me: thanks for considering me! Good luck !

Mermaid Alea
11-19-2015, 09:19 PM
That is frustrating Momo. I have so much respect for those of you who make clothes/costumes. I would love to get into making pretty dresses and things.

You know for all that detail you mentioned $400 isn't bad. There are dresses that are very simple looking that sell for thousands just because they are a "designer dress". I follow some costume makers on DeviantArt who have higher prices than $400.

Saelyyia
11-19-2015, 09:26 PM
You should've told her that it's part of being a christian/catholic (I'm just guessing since you said church) to give to the poor," wouldn't your church want to give to the poor in the name of God?"

My bitch (geeze, I've been posting here a lot as of late) So I run a little business on the side to raise money while I'm in school since jobs are no where to be found. My business is creating cosplay, and j-fashion things on commission. I recently finished a princess Jasmine for myself and I've gotten a lot of people looking for Disney costumes because of that. This is just one transaction I had with a potential customer:

Customer: Hi! I want a snow white costume, how much would that be?

me: depends on how detailed you want it. I offer 3 levels of details for Disney costumes (lists out 3 levels)

customer: I wan't the third level! (level 3 is the most detailed, using luxury fabrics, lots of hand sewn beading, overlays, etc. basically I try to create something a literal magical princess would wear)

me: Great! Level 3 snow whites begin at $400 not including shipping

customer: $400??! That's a lot for a costume! why so much? Can you go down to $100?

Me: I'm sorry, but I can't, you picked the most expensive option for the costume, and the material costs alone can't be covered by $100. You can choose one of the lower options to bring the price down, but I will warn you not even the first level is going to be $100

customer: Geez! you're a rip off! I could get the same thing from Ebay!

me: Thank you for contacting me! I hope you find what you want on Ebay. Have a good day!

customer: that's all? A good business woman would barter with me!

me: I'm not going to lower my prices to try and beat a cheap, costume satin, factory made product that will fall apart within a week or two. You get what you pay for.

customer: and such bad customer service! I was going to see if I could raise my budget but nevermind now!

me: thanks for considering me! Good luck !

OMG I hate people like this! I also costume on the side and those people drive me nuts. Like please, my costumes run me about $300 min to make them alot of the time because of the materials I use not even counting the time that goes into the piece labor wise. The people who want everything for nothing and are just ungrateful and belligerent drive me absolutely nuts! I'm so sorry MoMo. I would of responded to them the very same way.

Adalira
11-20-2015, 05:47 AM
You should've told her that it's part of being a christian/catholic (I'm just guessing since you said church) to give to the poor," wouldn't your church want to give to the poor in the name of God?"

My bitch (geeze, I've been posting here a lot as of late) So I run a little business on the side to raise money while I'm in school since jobs are no where to be found. My business is creating cosplay, and j-fashion things on commission. I recently finished a princess Jasmine for myself and I've gotten a lot of people looking for Disney costumes because of that. This is just one transaction I had with a potential customer:

Customer: Hi! I want a snow white costume, how much would that be?

me: depends on how detailed you want it. I offer 3 levels of details for Disney costumes (lists out 3 levels)

customer: I wan't the third level! (level 3 is the most detailed, using luxury fabrics, lots of hand sewn beading, overlays, etc. basically I try to create something a literal magical princess would wear)

me: Great! Level 3 snow whites begin at $400 not including shipping

customer: $400??! That's a lot for a costume! why so much? Can you go down to $100?

Me: I'm sorry, but I can't, you picked the most expensive option for the costume, and the material costs alone can't be covered by $100. You can choose one of the lower options to bring the price down, but I will warn you not even the first level is going to be $100

customer: Geez! you're a rip off! I could get the same thing from Ebay!

me: Thank you for contacting me! I hope you find what you want on Ebay. Have a good day!

customer: that's all? A good business woman would barter with me!

me: I'm not going to lower my prices to try and beat a cheap, costume satin, factory made product that will fall apart within a week or two. You get what you pay for.

customer: and such bad customer service! I was going to see if I could raise my budget but nevermind now!

me: thanks for considering me! Good luck !

Omg Momo, i have no words for that customers respons.
I in fact Lol´ed when i read "customer: $400??! That's a lot for a costume! why so much? Can you go down to $100? "
There are a lot of people out there who want to sit front row for a penny (a saying we have here).
You have given her amazing responses and seemed very calm in your responses, very professional.
She has nothing to complain about, you were kind to her and explained everything very well.
Some people prefer making drama when they don't get her way. Like a spoiled child not getting what they want from the toy store, they will create a scene, and that is what she was trying to do.
Well done on your end Momo!

Sherielle
11-20-2015, 09:59 AM
Momo, your responses are PERFECTION!!!!! I love you more for this.

nyghtelf22
11-20-2015, 01:38 PM
This is coming into the worst day of the year for me. I hate November. 6 years ago on the 24th I lost my 6 year old son. He was kicked in the chest by a horse. The anxiety attacks have been awful the past couple of days. I volunteered to work Thanksgiving at the hospital where I am a nurse so that I don't have to play happy. This holiday just makes me sad. I try to be thankful every day. I don't need a holiday. I just wish this month would end.

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shimmygoddess
11-20-2015, 01:52 PM
This is the exact reasons why all my pricing says "Prices start at...". I do this for my mermaid page and my bellydance page and I never get people trying to negotiate anymore. For a while, I removed pricing from my dance page and got so many useless calls and wasted time, so I went back to posting prices and it saved my sanity. Now I most always just book gigs b/c they already know the pricing.

**I know your post wasn't about gig pricing, but even when I sell costuming, pricing is always posted.


You should've told her that it's part of being a christian/catholic (I'm just guessing since you said church) to give to the poor," wouldn't your church want to give to the poor in the name of God?"

My bitch (geeze, I've been posting here a lot as of late) So I run a little business on the side to raise money while I'm in school since jobs are no where to be found. My business is creating cosplay, and j-fashion things on commission. I recently finished a princess Jasmine for myself and I've gotten a lot of people looking for Disney costumes because of that. This is just one transaction I had with a potential customer:

Customer: Hi! I want a snow white costume, how much would that be?

me: depends on how detailed you want it. I offer 3 levels of details for Disney costumes (lists out 3 levels)

customer: I wan't the third level! (level 3 is the most detailed, using luxury fabrics, lots of hand sewn beading, overlays, etc. basically I try to create something a literal magical princess would wear)

me: Great! Level 3 snow whites begin at $400 not including shipping

customer: $400??! That's a lot for a costume! why so much? Can you go down to $100?

Me: I'm sorry, but I can't, you picked the most expensive option for the costume, and the material costs alone can't be covered by $100. You can choose one of the lower options to bring the price down, but I will warn you not even the first level is going to be $100

customer: Geez! you're a rip off! I could get the same thing from Ebay!

me: Thank you for contacting me! I hope you find what you want on Ebay. Have a good day!

customer: that's all? A good business woman would barter with me!

me: I'm not going to lower my prices to try and beat a cheap, costume satin, factory made product that will fall apart within a week or two. You get what you pay for.

customer: and such bad customer service! I was going to see if I could raise my budget but nevermind now!

me: thanks for considering me! Good luck !

shimmygoddess
11-20-2015, 01:55 PM
That loss is too great. I hope you have loving people you can surround yourself with that will help you get through this. *sending hugs and prayers


This is coming into the worst day of the year for me. I hate November. 6 years ago on the 24th I lost my 6 year old son. He was kicked in the chest by a horse. The anxiety attacks have been awful the past couple of days. I volunteered to work Thanksgiving at the hospital where I am a nurse so that I don't have to play happy. This holiday just makes me sad. I try to be thankful every day. I don't need a holiday. I just wish this month would end.

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Sabrina the Selkie
11-20-2015, 03:24 PM
Oh, Nyghtelf. :(
Sending love your way. As shimmygoddess said, that is the greatest loss one can suffer.
*hugs*

nyghtelf22
11-20-2015, 09:24 PM
Oh, Nyghtelf. :(
Sending love your way. As shimmygoddess said, that is the greatest loss one can suffer.
*hugs*
Thank you both. I hope you never know this feeling.

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Sabrina the Selkie
11-21-2015, 04:25 PM
♥♥♥♥♥

Rogue Siren
11-30-2015, 11:00 AM
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Well look at that...already. *sigh*

Merman Arion
11-30-2015, 11:07 AM
Well look at that...already. *sigh*

What's wrong? I don't see the problem :thinks:

Rogue Siren
11-30-2015, 11:14 AM
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Could be lost in translation, but the term "replicate" irks me as that implies copying exactly.

Mermaid Mystery
11-30-2015, 11:31 AM
Call them out. That's ridiculous, it hasn't even been 24 hours.

Rogue Siren
11-30-2015, 11:42 AM
Call them out. That's ridiculous, it hasn't even been 24 hours.

I sent her a PM. We'll see what she says, if she replies at all.

SeaGlass Siren
11-30-2015, 11:48 AM
Oh my god call her the fuck out

Starfrit
11-30-2015, 11:52 AM
That's so disrespectful, holy carp. I'll never understand why people think comments like that are okay. :/

That said, Rogue, I saw the pictures shared on my newsfeed earlier and that top is GORGEOUS! <3 I can't wait to see it when it's finished!

Rogue Siren
11-30-2015, 12:00 PM
I banned them from the page and deleted their comments after I took screenshots. Sent her a message that was probably way too kind, but I told her the comment was rude and disrespectful, and told her that making a copy is a form of stealing. She can try making a top with lights if that's her thing, but it's not easy. Just don't "replicate" it

And thank you, Tieri!

Lotus the Mermaid
11-30-2015, 02:32 PM
I banned them from the page and deleted their comments after I took screenshots. Sent her a message that was probably way too kind, but I told her the comment was rude and disrespectful, and told her that making a copy is a form of stealing. She can try making a top with lights if that's her thing, but it's not easy. Just don't "replicate" it

And thank you, Tieri!

That's really a mature, reasonable response! Nice! I hope it all works out! ^-^

Mermaid Clara
11-30-2015, 05:00 PM
I had to work 32 hours last week, 24 hours total Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. I'm still tired as f**k! I'm mostly annoyed about missing Thanksgiving with my family and not being able to work on any of my mermaid tail projects and that I'm most likely getting sick again. [emoji35]


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Rogue Siren
11-30-2015, 08:10 PM
I banned them from the page and deleted their comments after I took screenshots. Sent her a message that was probably way too kind, but I told her the comment was rude and disrespectful, and told her that making a copy is a form of stealing. She can try making a top with lights if that's her thing, but it's not easy. Just don't "replicate" it

And thank you, Tieri!

Have an update, she responded and I feel so much better now.

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Sabrina the Selkie
11-30-2015, 08:35 PM
She handled that well!

I'm glad that worked out.

Mermaid Clara
11-30-2015, 09:41 PM
It's been a year or more since my mom got into a accident and got a DUI, I think she stopped taking her medicine a month ago and started drinking again. I don't know how to feel, I don't know if I'm angry or sad or frustrated. It just seems like everything was going right for a while but now it's going to go down the drain.


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Sabrina the Selkie
11-30-2015, 10:18 PM
Oh Kelly. That's awful.

Lotus the Mermaid
11-30-2015, 10:20 PM
It's been a year or more since my mom got into a accident and got a DUI, I think she stopped taking her medicine a month ago and started drinking again. I don't know how to feel, I don't know if I'm angry or sad or frustrated. It just seems like everything was going right for a while but now it's going to go down the drain.


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That's so tough to watch, Kelly. I'm so sorry. It sounds like there may be a deeper issue at play. I'll be praying for you and your mom. That's just so disheartening. :( :hug:

nyghtelf22
11-30-2015, 10:22 PM
Addiction is a hard disease to fight. There are support groups for the families of addicts. You aren't alone. Many families have to watch members make harmful choices. Find a place where you feel safe dealing with your feelings and the frustration. You aren't responsible for her choices but are being hurt by them. Hugs from your friendly nurse mermaid.

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Mermaid Alea
11-30-2015, 10:54 PM
Just the other day my parents got a bunch of free fruit from a nice farming family we know. Just this morning we got a call that the wife committed suicide. :cry:

So far all we know is she was having an argument with her husband about a sandwich (we don't know if she made him a sandwich and he complained about it or something) but anyways things escalated so much in the argument that she went and got a gun and shot herself in the head in front of her husband. She leaves behind several sons, the youngest I think is 12.

I just wish she would have known that her life was worth living... We are all really shaken up right now and I just feel so sorry for their family.

Azurin Luna
12-01-2015, 02:04 AM
That's so sad to hear :(
But I think there might have been more going on then an argument about a sandwich. So sad she can't be helped now

Mermaid Lorelei
12-02-2015, 09:49 PM
So, I try to keep pretty quiet about this sort of thing, but I'm seriously just pissed right now and there's nothing I can do. I'm on a birth control device called Nexplanon that is inserted under the skin of the arm. It is the most effective type of birth control out there, but it's basically been hell for me. I have a literal laundry list of side effects that get worse daily and nothing works to stem the tide. I don't look, feel, or act like the same person anymore and it's awful. My poor husband has had to watch my anxiety and depression sky rocket, deal with my daily mood swings, and watch me basically spiral out of control. I've gained 65 pounds with MORE diet and exercise than before the stupid device went in, I've developed cystic acne, I have daily debilitating migraines, and I have the equivalent of morning sickness at least twice a week.

Honestly, the thing that pissed me off the most is that they don't warn people about these side effects. Sure, they half-heartedly list a few things, but nothing like what a great majority of users actually go through. If I had known that this was going to be my experience, I never would have gotten the little fucker put in to begin with!

I'm scheduled to get my implant removed in a few days, but I've been warned that it could be months before I'm back to my old self and that some of the effects, like the anxiety, could stick around for good. So, yeah, there's my little rant. Thanks for reading.

Elodea the Mermaid
12-02-2015, 10:39 PM
So, I try to keep pretty quiet about this sort of thing, but I'm seriously just pissed right now and there's nothing I can do. I'm on a birth control device called Nexplanon that is inserted under the skin of the arm. It is the most effective type of birth control out there, but it's basically been hell for me. I have a literal laundry list of side effects that get worse daily and nothing works to stem the tide. I don't look, feel, or act like the same person anymore and it's awful. My poor husband has had to watch my anxiety and depression sky rocket, deal with my daily mood swings, and watch me basically spiral out of control. I've gained 65 pounds with MORE diet and exercise than before the stupid device went in, I've developed cystic acne, I have daily debilitating migraines, and I have the equivalent of morning sickness at least twice a week.

Honestly, the thing that pissed me off the most is that they don't warn people about these side effects. Sure, they half-heartedly list a few things, but nothing like what a great majority of users actually go through. If I had known that this was going to be my experience, I never would have gotten the little fucker put in to begin with!

I'm scheduled to get my implant removed in a few days, but I've been warned that it could be months before I'm back to my old self and that some of the effects, like the anxiety, could stick around for good. So, yeah, there's my little rant. Thanks for reading.
Girl, I feel you. It's crap too, because there's totally a male birth control option in other countries with almost 100% success rate and no side effects. The FDA just hates women or something, and men don't wanna know they're shooting blanks. Grrrrr....

I had a similar experience with the Depo shot. I was so exhausted that I was basically bedridden, plus I didn't stop bleeding for almost three straight months, plunging me into severe anemia that I never recovered from.

Best wishes and good thoughts for your recovery.

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Mermaid Mystery
12-02-2015, 10:43 PM
My friend was on that I believe. Supposed to last 4 years apparently. She got it last year but she's 37 weeks pregnant now.
Edit: I've heard the shot is so bad. I've had a similar bleeding experience, but it was 2 months. I also had the anemia problem. I'm on a stable pill right now but I want to change without the crazy side effects of everything.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-03-2015, 12:09 AM
That is awful. Awful, awful, awful.

All of the above. Awful. A friend of mine was on the more regular Pill. She had to have an abortion last year and she's still suffering from the resulting depression.

On another note: my grandmother's rather consequential one night stand is dying, so my mother and I are rushing out to Texas to see him. I had work today but completely forgot about it till approximately 10:30 pm. I REALLY hope I don't get fired. I mean, my boss is really super chill, but still.

Plus I don't ready want my grandpa dying yet, when I've met him all of once and considered my grandma's current husband to be my grandpa in all ways that really matter.

I just don't know him, so I feel a terrible sense of incompletion.

Mermaid Momo
12-03-2015, 01:12 AM
Dear lord! that's horrible! I also have the implant (same one I think) and I was warned about the side effects, but thankfully I haven't had any besides that I've gained a lot of hip weight (and I mean A LOT. I used to wear size 3 pants now none of my pants fit but my stretchy pants. my butt is so nice tho lol) They had warned me about the possibility to bleed continuously for months (though they said if it goes longer than 3 months to immediately get it removed). My mom had all the same effects you had though (including the bleeding for months straight) so we were worried I'd have the same reaction.

I can't wait till they release the male birth control tho, because while freaking people out when they touch my arm is cool, I don't really appreciate the way I eat 5 horses a day.

Merman Arion
12-03-2015, 03:26 AM
Girl, I feel you. It's crap too, because there's totally a male birth control option in other countries with almost 100% success rate and no side effects. The FDA just hates women or something, and men don't wanna know they're shooting blanks.

Wait. So let me get this straight. It's a male birth control option that makes us sterile? :thinks:

We use no condom and we "shoot blanks" ?? Seriously?

Mermaid Wesley
12-03-2015, 03:51 AM
It's not offered in the us because (as I heard) there actually are potential side effects. They include nausea, irritability, and some other things that sound exactly like the side effects of the pill. It was ruled too "inhumane" to approve. Like. O...k..... Excuse me as I fling myself into the sun.


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Mer-Crazy
12-03-2015, 04:00 AM
Honestly yes, whilst I think if there is a male form of birth control that's 100% effective and has no side effect then there is no reason we should have to deal with all the crap we do for our birth control when boys could.

However! And I want to stress I mean no offence to the sirs of Mernetwork, as I'm talking mostly about those irresponsible children who just have a lot of one night stands. personally i wouldn't trust most boys to remember to take it, or be honest about whether they are actually on it. Especially for those who may have more casual sex. Let's be honest there is just less pressure for the men. If we forget to take our pill we may fall pregnant. A lot of casual sex guys may not care if they knock up a girl. They can just run off and there is no responsibility for them.

And don't even get me started on the price. I'm mostly bitching about my ex here, but one time he complained and said I should buy the next lot of condoms and I went into a full on rage and informed him very loudly how much my birth control cost me and that sure, I'll get the next lot and he can pay $90 for my next lot of pills if that's how he wants it. (I buy them in 3 month lots) sorry for the personal rant.

Also I am on a great pill at the moment which I take purely to control my hormones ATM since I haven't had sex in over a year and don't plan to any time soon. So i wouldn't stop taking it even if there was a pill for men. It has cleared up my face perfectly (before I was on it my skin was so bad I had no self confidence) and I enjoy that I can control and predict that time of the month. It has also helped with the facial hair problem I had. And I've noticed no side effects. I've gained a small amount of weight since being on it but that's probably more laziness than anything.

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Mermaid Lilium
12-03-2015, 04:16 AM
I'm on my second nexplanon, the one I have now was only put in like two weeks ago. Apart from some unpredictable and long ones when I first switched to the implant.... Not had a period in more than 2 years. I struggle to loose weight and have acne but I was the same before anyway. I think I must be one of the lucky ones!

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SeaGlass Siren
12-03-2015, 08:51 AM
I feel your pain ladies. Like I can actually feel the pain. In the uterus. :(

i also think hunk that the U.S. doesnt want men to be responsible for contraception because "it's a woman thing"
like no. It takes two to tango. One to spread and one to insert. Seriously. Make men responsible too. It's just so stupid. AGH!
like I am pretty thankful that I don't have any side effects aside from the slight weight gain and acne the first few months (they're gone now and I'm also slimming down) but I can't imagine the shit the rest of you guys must go through.

PearlieMae
12-03-2015, 09:49 AM
(this is where I do the Menopause Happy Dance :yay: )

Sherielle
12-03-2015, 10:25 AM
Lorelei, that's awful you are having such ill effects of the bc. I had to completely get off of bc due to the daily migraines. My husband volunteered to get 'snipped' so I could.

Merman Arion
12-03-2015, 10:41 AM
I don't get it.

As a guy, I feel it's totally normal to share responsibility. Like Sea Glass said, it takes two to tango. I'm gay so I might not be concerned but if I were straight, I would take it. To say that it's a "woman" thing is bullshit and a pathetic excuse.

PearlieMae
12-03-2015, 11:10 AM
Knowing how straight guys tend to say ANYTHING to get laid, women have learned not to trust anything they say, ever. I'd never trust a guy who said they were taking the Man Pill.

Mermaid Lorelei
12-03-2015, 11:25 AM
Wow, sorry, I really wasn't expecting to cause such a stir. O.O'

I really appreciate everyone's kind words. They do help immensely.

The hubby and I have been talking about some other options instead of birth control because it's become clear that hormone-anythings screw up my system. The top option at the moment is a tubal ligation with an endometrial ablation. Basically, I'd never be able to get pregnant ever. Which is just fine with me, considering my serious tocophobia.

And I'm just going to leave this here for those talking about the Man-pill.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/72/68/92/7268926ed14737a09ebe3ea4e4acfcf4.jpg

Merman Arion
12-03-2015, 11:29 AM
Knowing how straight guys tend to say ANYTHING to get laid, women have learned not to trust anything they say, ever. I'd never trust a guy who said they were taking the Man Pill.

Yeah... I agree. Most men are pigs. Even on the gay side. They would say anything to prove they are negative to lay off the condoms and fuck raw.

PearlieMae
12-03-2015, 02:05 PM
Okay, bit of a bitch on another topic...

I hate having something valid to say, posting it, then having to delete it because it sounds like I'm being a bitchy bitch. Heaven forbid I call anyone out on their bullshit and hurt their fans' feelings. :cry:

This is where I stomp on fins left, right and center! :anger explode:

I guess I should just :saynothing:

SeaGlass Siren
12-03-2015, 04:47 PM
Que pasa qui?

PearlieMae
12-03-2015, 04:53 PM
Oh, nothing, really...in the big scheme of things.

SeaGlass Siren
12-03-2015, 06:26 PM
Sending hugs

Mermaid Momo
12-03-2015, 09:51 PM
sending hugs pearlie! and I thought male birth control was an injection of a liquid that turns into a gel and blocks the ductus deferens?

SeaGlass Siren
12-03-2015, 10:07 PM
Or you know they can get their balls detached :P is that how a vasectomy works?

Sherielle
12-03-2015, 10:19 PM
Snip snip snip

Keiris
12-03-2015, 10:31 PM
Snip snip snip

...and all the guys in here just crossed their legs.

MermaidSandie
12-03-2015, 10:47 PM
Just a little bit of bitching here, I really need to get it out of my system. Aslo the man pill would be a great idea if men would actually put it to use

Going through my first breakup [woooo I was late to the dating game] and I honestly have no idea what to do. He just said that he felt that he rushed into dating too fast [which I understand] and that he wants to be friends a little more first. I get that, but it's also totally screwing with my mind. I heard that he had a really good relationship with his ex so maybe he still has feelings for her and I'm just the rebound girlfriend and he doesn't want to be flat-out mean to me, or he maybe still likes me and just can't handle the relationship right now. I'm kind of just scared that I did something wrong or that I'm the rebound relationship. I don't want to ignore him, so I'll probably try and act like nothing's wrong or just give him space. He also told me "there's still prom" which really mind fucked me. what does that mean???

also he's in my 6th period class tomorrow and I really don't want to look at his face.

okay I'm done bitching

IllynReaver
12-03-2015, 11:01 PM
On the birth control for men thing, http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-perfect-birth-control-for-men-is-here-why-cant-we-use-it it's simply an injection that's completely reversible. Also some other options http://mentalfloss.com/article/67816/5-promising-male-birth-control-methods.

PhaylennMurúch
12-03-2015, 11:05 PM
Just a little bit of bitching here, I really need to get it out of my system. Aslo the man pill would be a great idea if men would actually put it to use

Going through my first breakup [woooo I was late to the dating game] and I honestly have no idea what to do. He just said that he felt that he rushed into dating too fast [which I understand] and that he wants to be friends a little more first. I get that, but it's also totally screwing with my mind. I heard that he had a really good relationship with his ex so maybe he still has feelings for her and I'm just the rebound girlfriend and he doesn't want to be flat-out mean to me, or he maybe still likes me and just can't handle the relationship right now. I'm kind of just scared that I did something wrong or that I'm the rebound relationship. I don't want to ignore him, so I'll probably try and act like nothing's wrong or just give him space. He also told me "there's still prom" which really mind fucked me. what does that mean???

also he's in my 6th period class tomorrow and I really don't want to look at his face.

okay I'm done bitching

As someone who didn't start dating till after High School, and who has had two partners in her lifetime. You are not late to the dating game. If you don't want to look at his stupid face then don't. Pretend that he's not there. You did nothing wrong and he's a jerk for stringing you along. He said "there's always prom" because he probably thinks that he now has a backup date.
Don't hold out for him, he's a shrimp in this big ocean and you are worth more than an itty bitty shrimp

Mermaid Cecelia
12-03-2015, 11:09 PM
Just a little bit of bitching here, I really need to get it out of my system. Aslo the man pill would be a great idea if men would actually put it to use

Going through my first breakup [woooo I was late to the dating game] and I honestly have no idea what to do. He just said that he felt that he rushed into dating too fast [which I understand] and that he wants to be friends a little more first. I get that, but it's also totally screwing with my mind. I heard that he had a really good relationship with his ex so maybe he still has feelings for her and I'm just the rebound girlfriend and he doesn't want to be flat-out mean to me, or he maybe still likes me and just can't handle the relationship right now. I'm kind of just scared that I did something wrong or that I'm the rebound relationship. I don't want to ignore him, so I'll probably try and act like nothing's wrong or just give him space. He also told me "there's still prom" which really mind fucked me. what does that mean???

also he's in my 6th period class tomorrow and I really don't want to look at his face.

okay I'm done bitching

Im sorry you're in this situation :/ I've actually been the other person in that situation, I started dating a guy soon after a break up and I broke up with the new guy because I wasn't emotionally ready. I still wanted to be friends with the guy to see if it could work out later, but I needed to be comfortable with being single first. If I were you, I'd give him some space but also make sure to explain to him how you're feeling about everything. I know it sounds cliche, but communication really is extremely helpful. It'll be awkward seeing him at first, but that'll go away with time :)

SeaGlass Siren
12-04-2015, 10:44 PM
...and all the guys in here just crossed their legs.
Aww :P sorry merdudes!!!

MermaidSandie
12-04-2015, 11:00 PM
@phaylennMuruch and @Mermaid Cecelia

Thank you for the support <333 I [kind of???] worked things out with him today, which kind of helped. It may or may not have involved me hiding under a table, but we communicated through the passing of notes [although we were less than 5 feet apart lmao] and confirmed that he's not mad, I don't hate him, and we're both sorry so I guess things are fine for now. He drew a picture of me in my tail lmao

Mermaid Cecelia
12-04-2015, 11:24 PM
That's great sandie :)

Mermaid Clara
12-06-2015, 01:21 AM
My iron levels are getting low again[emoji35] Low iron runs in the women in my mom's side of my family. When my iron levels get low I get super tired easily. Back on the iron supplements I go!


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Mermaid Clara
12-06-2015, 12:30 PM
F**king hiccups! I've had them for like almost 20 minutes[emoji35]


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Starfrit
12-06-2015, 12:34 PM
F**king hiccups! I've had them for like almost 20 minutes[emoji35]


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Can we get an award over here for Most Adorably Innocent Complaint in the B!tc# It Out Thread?

I totally get you, though. I rarely get the actual hiccups (I have a weird issue with my diaphragm where I'll hiccup once every hour or so), but when I do that shit hurts. D:

Merman Dan
12-06-2015, 12:43 PM
F**king hiccups! I've had them for like almost 20 minutes

Next time try drinking water slowly through a straw while holding your fingers in your ears. If that doesn't do the trick at least you'll amuse everyone standing nearby. ;)

PearlieMae
12-06-2015, 12:58 PM
sending hugs pearlie! and I thought male birth control was an injection of a liquid that turns into a gel and blocks the ductus deferens?

I still wouldn't trust anyone saying they've done that, or have had a vasectomy. Truth is, the onus is upon women to control our reproduction, and the war on women's control over their bodies is very real. Conservatives know that if they can control one aspect that is particular to a certain group, then they have a toehold of doubt within that group's mindset.

Are you going to let some group tell you what you can and cannot do with your own body?

(And a vasectomy just snips out a section of the hose that carries the baby-making juice. ;-) )

Sabrina the Selkie
12-06-2015, 01:01 PM
Oh gods. Japanese Language Proficiency Test starting in an hour.

*hyperventilates in abject terror*

PearlieMae
12-06-2015, 01:05 PM
Hiccup cure: to stop the esophageal spasms -aka hiccups - take a deep breath and hold it with pressure. One way to do that is to put the top of your thumb in your mouth and pretend to blow it out. Do that for as long as you can maintain pressure, then try to slowly exhale. You'll hiccup while you're doing it, but keep trying.

Works every time. :)

Mermaid Wesley
12-06-2015, 06:21 PM
Tightening the diaphragm muscle ^ it's a spasm so if you try to tense all those muscles in there it can stop em! I usually just flex all the muscles I can in my torso lol


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Rogue Siren
12-06-2015, 06:38 PM
F**king hiccups! I've had them for like almost 20 minutes[emoji35]


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Drinking water upside-down cures them for me every time.

(Basically I get a sip of water in the mouth, then lean over and hang my head upside-down to swallow. xD)

SeaGlass Siren
12-07-2015, 06:35 AM
I drink a sizeable amount of water, hold my breath until I can't, and swallow.

so here is my bitch. December hates me. Yesterday my husband showed up to pick me up and he tells me the dinner for my friends party is at 8. Ok fine I can watch the Christmas wish video at 7:30. I end up missing he video because it got moved until 5:20-6 when he wanted to kill time in the mall. So we head over to the keg at 8 when... Everyone is near finished their meal. Because the dinner was supposed to be at 6. Wtf. I'm upset (still) because I literally missed everything so I didn't even get to eat a proper dinner (just a small app was all I had) and now I'm worried ouat didn't record properly because of the speech so I might have missed a huge chunk of that too. Now I'm
Now I'm worried i will be late for work because even though I showed Up early I nearly started my shift late because I misread my schedule that day.
This upsets me because I'm a stickler for being punctual.

im so upset that I'm only running on 4 hours of sleep

SeaGlass Siren
12-07-2015, 10:44 AM
Oh great now my birth control is missing. What else do I need to miss?? PHANtOM OF YHE oPerA?????!'dks

Starfrit
12-07-2015, 11:56 AM
Oh, SeaGlass. :c On the upside, Phantom of the Opera is gonna be AMAZING and you're gonna have such a great time, and everything will start looking up for you! <3

I find December is always crazy and awful. Christmas is one of my fave holidays but December is one of my LEAST favorite months because things are always just pure chaos. :(

Starfrit
12-07-2015, 11:57 AM
(PS I'm still insanely jealous you get to see POTO, I wanna sneak to Toronto and like, smuggle myself into the theatre in your purse of something.)

SeaGlass Siren
12-07-2015, 02:36 PM
It's not even the fact that it's Christmas and everything is chaotic. My life is usually pretty stable but for some reason yesterday and today is like :wtf:

SeaGlass Siren
12-07-2015, 02:37 PM
(PS I'm still insanely jealous you get to see POTO, I wanna sneak to Toronto and like, smuggle myself into the theatre in your purse of something.)
Come visit in January :3 you can stay at my new place

lulubelle
12-07-2015, 03:16 PM
So, I try to keep pretty quiet about this sort of thing, but I'm seriously just pissed right now and there's nothing I can do. I'm on a birth control device called Nexplanon that is inserted under the skin of the arm. It is the most effective type of birth control out there, but it's basically been hell for me. I have a literal laundry list of side effects that get worse daily and nothing works to stem the tide. I don't look, feel, or act like the same person anymore and it's awful. My poor husband has had to watch my anxiety and depression sky rocket, deal with my daily mood swings, and watch me basically spiral out of control. I've gained 65 pounds with MORE diet and exercise than before the stupid device went in, I've developed cystic acne, I have daily debilitating migraines, and I have the equivalent of morning sickness at least twice a week.

Honestly, the thing that pissed me off the most is that they don't warn people about these side effects. Sure, they half-heartedly list a few things, but nothing like what a great majority of users actually go through. If I had known that this was going to be my experience, I never would have gotten the little fucker put in to begin with!

I'm scheduled to get my implant removed in a few days, but I've been warned that it could be months before I'm back to my old self and that some of the effects, like the anxiety, could stick around for good. So, yeah, there's my little rant. Thanks for reading.


I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.

Years ago a coworker of mine ended up in hospital due to suicidal thoughts and nearly lost custody of her kids. She had been happy and healthy until she got the depo shots. It was an absolute mess. Once the shots were out of her system she was fine, but it was really scary for a while.

I had a bad reaction to the birth control pill, something changed in my body chemistry after having my daughter and I was so angry all the time. And I had zero sex drive topped with any time my husband came near me I accused him of treating me like a concubine. It was awful. We only clued in that it was the pill when I thought I had run out and couldn't get into my dr's office right away. Suddenly it was like fog lifted. Never again.

I agree that they do not do enough to explain the potential side effects. When I told my dr how I had been feeling she was completely unsurprised and was all "yeah that's pretty common."

I hope you feel better soon.

lulubelle
12-07-2015, 03:22 PM
I don't get it.

As a guy, I feel it's totally normal to share responsibility. Like Sea Glass said, it takes two to tango. I'm gay so I might not be concerned but if I were straight, I would take it. To say that it's a "woman" thing is bullshit and a pathetic excuse.

In North America men are supposed to be free and enjoy sex and not have consequences because they are studly.

Women are not supposed to enjoy sex and only do it for procreation and doing it for fun means they are slutty slutty sluts and deserve to be punished with babies.

Awesome patriarchy we have here.

PearlieMae
12-07-2015, 03:24 PM
I just found out today that my best good friend Robin died suddenly last night of a heart attack. We were the bestest friends for years and years before I moved to New Jersey 33 years ago. We painted our faces like tigers and crashed into the Kentucky Derby Parade on our sneaker skates, blowing bubbles and skating around and everyone thought we were part of the parade. We sat on my front porch summer after summer, teaching ourselves "The Beatles Made Easy for Guitar". We cruised through the park every weekend like thousands of other kids, looking for our crushes, yelling at cute guys, generally acting like asshole teenagers.

We grew apart, as distance and family raising will do, but chatted on Facebook, planned to get together over and over, assuming we would always be around.

Last night, she asked for prayers and good thoughts for her mom, in the hospital with the flu and pneumonia, and this morning, her sister texted me to tell me she was gone! I assumed it was her mother, but NO!

I can't believe she's gone.

Seems like everyone is dropping dead, left right and center, lately.

Mermaid Lorelei
12-07-2015, 03:33 PM
I'm sorry you're having to deal with this.

Years ago a coworker of mine ended up in hospital due to suicidal thoughts and nearly lost custody of her kids. She had been happy and healthy until she got the depo shots. It was an absolute mess. Once the shots were out of her system she was fine, but it was really scary for a while.

I had a bad reaction to the birth control pill, something changed in my body chemistry after having my daughter and I was so angry all the time. And I had zero sex drive topped with any time my husband came near me I accused him of treating me like a concubine. It was awful. We only clued in that it was the pill when I thought I had run out and couldn't get into my dr's office right away. Suddenly it was like fog lifted. Never again.

I agree that they do not do enough to explain the potential side effects. When I told my dr how I had been feeling she was completely unsurprised and was all "yeah that's pretty common."

I hope you feel better soon.

Unfortunately that doesn't sound very different from what I've been dealing with. The last few days have been especially bad, but I get my implant removed Thursday, so it'll be okay. I honestly just want to feel like a normal human being again.

Mermaid Lorelei
12-07-2015, 03:33 PM
I just found out today that my best good friend Robin died suddenly last night of a heart attack. We were the bestest friends for years and years before I moved to New Jersey 33 years ago. We painted our faces like tigers and crashed into the Kentucky Derby Parade on our sneaker skates, blowing bubbles and skating around and everyone thought we were part of the parade. We sat on my front porch summer after summer, teaching ourselves "The Beatles Made Easy for Guitar". We cruised through the park every weekend like thousands of other kids, looking for our crushes, yelling at cute guys, generally acting like asshole teenagers.

We grew apart, as distance and family raising will do, but chatted on Facebook, planned to get together over and over, assuming we would always be around.

Last night, she asked for prayers and good thoughts for her mom, in the hospital with the flu and pneumonia, and this morning, her sister texted me to tell me she was gone! I assumed it was her mother, but NO!

I can't believe she's gone.

Seems like everyone is dropping dead, left right and center, lately.

Oh Pearlie, I'm so sorry. *hugs*

Saelyyia
12-07-2015, 03:35 PM
I just found out today that my best good friend Robin died suddenly last night of a heart attack. We were the bestest friends for years and years before I moved to New Jersey 33 years ago. We painted our faces like tigers and crashed into the Kentucky Derby Parade on our sneaker skates, blowing bubbles and skating around and everyone thought we were part of the parade. We sat on my front porch summer after summer, teaching ourselves "The Beatles Made Easy for Guitar". We cruised through the park every weekend like thousands of other kids, looking for our crushes, yelling at cute guys, generally acting like asshole teenagers.

We grew apart, as distance and family raising will do, but chatted on Facebook, planned to get together over and over, assuming we would always be around.

Last night, she asked for prayers and good thoughts for her mom, in the hospital with the flu and pneumonia, and this morning, her sister texted me to tell me she was gone! I assumed it was her mother, but NO!

I can't believe she's gone.

Seems like everyone is dropping dead, left right and center, lately.

Oh Pearlie, how awful. My condolences...

Sabrina the Selkie
12-07-2015, 03:39 PM
Pearlie!!
That's awful. As Lorelei said: *hugs*

Dealing with that sort of loss is so, so, hard.

SeaGlass Siren
12-07-2015, 06:37 PM
Oh no pearlie.. :(

sending love and condolences

Mermaid Lily_Pad
12-07-2015, 07:30 PM
I'm so very sorry Pearlie. It's been a bad month. We have had a few losses as well.

Mermaid Mystery
12-07-2015, 07:37 PM
I'm so sorry for your loss pearlie. I know what it feels like to lose a best friend. My condolences.

Mermaid Mystery
12-07-2015, 09:28 PM
I think I'm going to be sick. Two of my friends are hospitalized and another one killed herself. I can't believe this.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-07-2015, 09:29 PM
Oh my gods, Mystery!

Hydra1337
12-08-2015, 04:58 AM
I hate that my whole family resents me for not allowing my mother in the delivery room when I had my daughter (her first grandchild) in September. She said the experience was supposed to be for the mother and daughter not just the parents to be. She may be my mother but she caused so much stress and depression when my husband and I were forced to live with her that having her in the room would cause too kuch stress for me to handle her AND delivering my first baby. Her resentment and our refusal to go to church with her (we are atheists) caused events to snowball into getting kicked out not even two weeks after Evelyn was born. Also, she said because we wouldn't get Evelyn baptised something bad was going to happen to her and it would be our fault.

I actually had to change my phone number because she kept harassing us every day. At first she said she was sorry she kicked us out and didn't mean what she said. Then she changed her story to say that my husband said we were leaving before she shouted for us to get out. Because of her I now have no contact with my family and now that I've seen how shallow they really are I'm a lot happier with my life here in Florida.

PearlieMae
12-08-2015, 08:52 AM
Mystery, I am so sorry! That's terrible news!

Hydra, I'm glad you found that you are happier without toxic people in your life.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-08-2015, 09:04 AM
Wow, Hydra. That's insane. Well, at least her kicking you out had a nice byproduct: you're out and away from that source of stress.

Aysun_the_Mermaid
12-08-2015, 10:52 AM
I may have to murder my cat.

I woke up this morning to discover that apparently he decided the cactus pot was a bathroom, perched on the edge of the pot, AND SHAT ON THE FLOOR

>:|

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PearlieMae
12-08-2015, 11:20 AM
Oh damn! Are you sure he's not ill?

Dancing Fish
12-08-2015, 11:22 AM
I may have to murder my cat.

I woke up this morning to discover that apparently he decided the cactus pot was a bathroom, perched on the edge of the pot, AND SHAT ON THE FLOOR

>:|

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I've got one of those stupid little furballs. He's lucky he's so sweet and cuddly. I just discovered (this morning, at work, too late to change) that he peed on my shirt. :mad:

Aysun_the_Mermaid
12-08-2015, 12:01 PM
He is behaving normally in every other aspect, Pearlie. But I will keep an eye on him, just in case.

I think he intended to go in the dirt, he just misjudged the size of the pot.

I need to catch him pawing in the dirt so I can mist him and teach him to stay away from the plants.

Dancing Fish, that is awful!

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Hydra1337
12-08-2015, 01:29 PM
He is behaving normally in every other aspect, Pearlie. But I will keep an eye on him, just in case.

I think he intended to go in the dirt, he just misjudged the size of the pot.

I need to catch him pawing in the dirt so I can mist him and teach him to stay away from the plants.

Dancing Fish, that is awful!

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At least he's acting normal other than that.

Thank you for the support to those that responded to my first post. Even though Steve had said countless times we did the right thing by not talking to her anymore there were times where I doubted the decision we made. Hearing other people say it helps give me some closure. :)

lulubelle
12-08-2015, 01:53 PM
I hate that my whole family resents me for not allowing my mother in the delivery room when I had my daughter (her first grandchild) in September. She said the experience was supposed to be for the mother and daughter not just the parents to be. She may be my mother but she caused so much stress and depression when my husband and I were forced to live with her that having her in the room would cause too kuch stress for me to handle her AND delivering my first baby. Her resentment and our refusal to go to church with her (we are atheists) caused events to snowball into getting kicked out not even two weeks after Evelyn was born. Also, she said because we wouldn't get Evelyn baptised something bad was going to happen to her and it would be our fault.

I actually had to change my phone number because she kept harassing us every day. At first she said she was sorry she kicked us out and didn't mean what she said. Then she changed her story to say that my husband said we were leaving before she shouted for us to get out. Because of her I now have no contact with my family and now that I've seen how shallow they really are I'm a lot happier with my life here in Florida.

Birthing is all about the one doing the birthing, that is the ONLY person whose wishes matter.

I'm sorry your mom is being so difficult. While it's hard to cut someone off, you have your mental health and the mental health of your growing family to think of. Boundaries can be hard to erect and enforce but they are SO important.

Much love and congrats on your newb.

Aysun_the_Mermaid
12-08-2015, 08:04 PM
Update on the cat poop nonsense:

I think he was freaked out by my tail drying on the bathroom floor so he held it until he couldn't and then tried to go in the plant and missed while trying not to get pricked by the cactus.

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Starfrit
12-09-2015, 10:42 PM
Totally unrelated bitch, I need to get this out of my system:

So, one person shared a picture on that trainwreck Mermaids Are The Best FB group, showing a hermit crab in a glass shell. And because one idiot shared it, now there's gonna be a dozen other idiots sharing the same thing to the group over and over again, and each one's gonna get a dozen comments from a dozen OTHER idiots being like "Omg I want one!" and "I'm gonna buy one for my hermit crab!!"

FUCKING. DON'T. THAT SHIT KILLS THESE CRABS, DIPSHITS.

It's stressful to the crab, causes damage to their abdomens, and can actually cause sunburns and drying out WHICH IS WHAT NATURAL SHELLS ARE DESIGNED TO FUCKING DO FOR THE CRABS IN THE FIRST PLACE. With a glass shell you are taking away their protection. It's torture, plain and simple.

And of course somebody had to comment with a link encouraging people to BUY the fucking things, so of COURSE crabs are going to end up seriously injured or killed because some idiot tween with no business caring for these babies wants their hermies to look ~*special*~

And guaranteed these are the same breed of idiots who think painted shells aren't poisonous to their crabs and only have like an inch of substrate in a bare-ass glass tank.

[PTERODACTYL SCREECH OF RAGE]

Mermaid Clara
12-09-2015, 10:47 PM
Went to work at 9am, my coworker asked me to start cleaning one of the fitting rooms. When I bent down I pulled something in my lower back, I haven't been able to bend or hardly move, only stand straight. I can finally feel the ibuprofen kicking in a little bit.


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Merman Dan
12-10-2015, 12:07 AM
And of course somebody had to comment with a link...

To be fair I was not encouraging people to buy them, only to look at a larger gallery of images. When I looked at articles about glass shells at Deep Sea News and the Hermit Crab Association I saw no mention of detrimental effects. Perhaps a study should be undertaken to educate people as to the effects of a non-natural shell. Granted, hermit crabs in the wild will move into all manner of man-made debris if only for a short while until they outgrow their new home.

Mermaid Mystery
12-10-2015, 12:43 AM
Welp. One of my favorite lions at a completely different facility passed today. I know it was her time, but I'm still incredibly upset. I never did get to meet her.

Winged Mermaid
12-10-2015, 08:19 PM
Another reminder that this thread is for non mer related venting. Mermaid stuff goes here: http://mernetwork.com/index/showthread.php?1679 I've moved over the recent mer related posts to there.

Ashe
12-10-2015, 08:20 PM
Aw Mystery I'm sorry :( Maybe you can go cheer yourself up by playing with the funky pancake lizards? :hug:

Hollydell
12-10-2015, 09:07 PM
OMG. So I got in a car accident about half a year ago. I'm alright but my back is out of wack. After a lot of physio and a bunch of massages and stuff it's finally starting to heal.
About 3 months ago I moved back in with my mom leaving my dad. She had been pushing and pushing a pushing until I finally did. The rule growing up was when you are in school you don't have to pay rent but once your out of school rent is expected.
Before I moved in I told my mom I wouldn't be able to pay rent because of all the appointments I have to pay for until the insurance company reimburses me.
Now that I'm slowly getting better I have less appointments and and I'm working more so a bit of money is coming in. Now I'm trying to pay off all my credit cards and I still don't have a cent to my name.
My dad helps out a bit if I need something he will help pay for it so I found this sweater online and asked my dad to pay for it.
Now my mom is bitching at me telling me I have to pay for wifi because we only got unlimited because I was moving in. ( I have 2 sisters that already live there plus my moms boyfriends kids that come once in a while) and she wants me to pay for the unlimited. She saw the package holding the sweater and again bitched at me for being able to afford stuff for me but I won't help out with the house funds.
I moved in expecting to pay rent once I got the settlement but now 3 months in and after the gunny moon stage she's wanting me to pay for wifi. Just makes me so angry


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MerAnthony
12-10-2015, 09:54 PM
WARNING this is a RANT foul language ahead.


A few weeks ago I was told by a good friend ( nameless ) that during Merfest of 2014 that somebody had tried to get me kicked out by telling a very vicious an mean lie. It was on a bus trip to the aquarium. An I know who said it an I don't give a fuck about your problems that you have. You are a very mean an nasty Mer an you should not even be wearing a tail because you do not represent what a mer stands for. An all you feel is just for yourself an don't give 2 shits for anybody else. I swear that if this happens again I will sue for defamation of character an I will own your ass. I am not saying any names but the person will know who I am talking about. If you have an fucking thing to say to me it better be an apology. Enough said.

Aysun_the_Mermaid
12-10-2015, 10:01 PM
^ I think that goes in the Drama bubble thread...

And BeMyHero, I am sorry to hear that. That must be frustrating. Is there any way you can change your living situation?

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Hydra1337
12-10-2015, 10:06 PM
OMG. So I got in a car accident about half a year ago. I'm alright but my back is out of wack. After a lot of physio and a bunch of massages and stuff it's finally starting to heal.
About 3 months ago I moved back in with my mom leaving my dad. She had been pushing and pushing a pushing until I finally did. The rule growing up was when you are in school you don't have to pay rent but once your out of school rent is expected.
Before I moved in I told my mom I wouldn't be able to pay rent because of all the appointments I have to pay for until the insurance company reimburses me.
Now that I'm slowly getting better I have less appointments and and I'm working more so a bit of money is coming in. Now I'm trying to pay off all my credit cards and I still don't have a cent to my name.
My dad helps out a bit if I need something he will help pay for it so I found this sweater online and asked my dad to pay for it.
Now my mom is bitching at me telling me I have to pay for wifi because we only got unlimited because I was moving in. ( I have 2 sisters that already live there plus my moms boyfriends kids that come once in a while) and she wants me to pay for the unlimited. She saw the package holding the sweater and again bitched at me for being able to afford stuff for me but I won't help out with the house funds.
I moved in expecting to pay rent once I got the settlement but now 3 months in and after the gunny moon stage she's wanting me to pay for wifi. Just makes me so angry


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That really sucks...I know how you feel about the bills. When Steve and I first moved in with my mother a few months ago we werent supposed to pay anything but we had to help around the house. We were fine with that because in our situation it was the right thing to do for living there for free (mom handled all bills, food, etc) and we couldn't live in the same house as my mother (who is legally blind but could see enough to live alone with no assistance for almost dive years) and not help out. The longer we lived there the more she guilt tripped us into paying her bills.

Normally there is not a problem with helping out with bills. In this situation we had some issues. She thought spending over $200 in PBS donations and on top of that going to the beach with my teenage brother (which definitely cost her over $100 for transport, food, etc) was more important than paying bills that would have been covered if she hadn't spent that money.

I love my mother and understand that she's handicapped but there are definitely times she uses her disability to her advantage. She had me (days away from delivery) running around the house doing chores working me until my legs were about to give out.

From there it snowballed into what I previously ranted about. Getting that out feels a lot better. Sorry for the long post.

Mermaid Mystery
12-10-2015, 11:33 PM
Aw Mystery I'm sorry :( Maybe you can go cheer yourself up by playing with the funky pancake lizards? :hug:

I will tomorrow if I'm training on them! hopefully they don't whip me with their tail

Hollydell
12-10-2015, 11:42 PM
Thanks. I just got home from work and my mom pulled me in her room. She told me she was upset cause my room is a mess. Yes there are some clothes on the ground and yes there are some empty pop cans. So I was like whatever. But when she kept going on I started to get upset. Like let me go and clean it then.
Finally she was like you look upset, so I told her. The clothes were in the hamper but I had to grab some pants out from near the bottom. So I was in a rush to get to work. It's an easy fix.
The cans though. My mom has this big thing about weight and she hates that I drink pop. Which is ridiculous because she buys my sisters cookies all the time. But when she kept going I told her. I'm not putting the cans in the recycle because I'm just gonna get in trouble for it later. I can't win. Then she started getting angry telling me I was just trying to start a fight.
I want to move back into my dads place, I think he would take be back but I have some arguments with him as well.
I was saving up for my own place to rent from but now all my money is gone.
Again I'm sure my dad would take me back but then my mom would say "your running away from your problems"


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Sabrina the Selkie
12-10-2015, 11:46 PM
Oh Hero. :(

*hugs*

Princess Pearl
12-11-2015, 01:19 AM
Ok, I know I've only been engaged two weeks, but if ONE MORE PERSON at work asks me when the GOD DAMNED WEDDING is I will THROW THEM OUT A WINDOW.

I don't know when the date is! My fiancee lives in a different city and we have opposite work schedules! NOTHING IS PLANNED YET, STOP ASKING!!!

Hollydell
12-11-2015, 01:51 AM
Aww I'm sorry to hear that, but congratulations!!!!


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Hollydell
12-11-2015, 01:53 AM
And thanks Selkie <3 hugs are awesome!

SeaMansa
12-11-2015, 08:48 AM
Just want to vent. Again.
I am quitting my job. Been working there for like 4 days and I am preparing to call in today and tell my boss its not working for me. I have never done anything like this but I just can't.
I feel so shitty. I was telling my mother that I wanted to quit a few days ago and she gave me a whole "You are 21. You are not a quitter. Just do it." speech but she doesn't really understand. I hate everything about this place. I know they talk about me behind my back and in their language, and yesterday it was confirmed to me when one of the other workers told me what the boss was saying about me and worst was that she told me out loud in front of other customers and employees. I felt so freaking embarrassed it took everything in me not to cry for the rest of the day. She didn't mean any harm by it, I know she was trying to help, but still.
Anyway, its too much responsibility because I work my shifts alone even though I just started, no one is trying to teach me how to do things properly and when I ask they act as if I am being annoying but then get upset when I don't know how to do something or when I do it wrong. I literally don't know what i am doing there. People talk about me behind my back. And just all around this isn't a good atmosphere for me.
I keep beating myself over it because I do feel like I'm a quitter. But I can't put up with this for a min wage job.
And this is reason #326682086420 why I should have majored in something that would pay bills instead of something I enjoyed. I'd probably have a better chance at getting a good job by now (yeah, I know I'm still young and I'm not even done with college but I keep thinking I have wasted most of my time for nothing)
:/ never in my life have I contemplated being a male stripper so much (I'm partly kidding...but hey.... xD) Too bad I don't have the face, body, or moves for it, eh. But yeah, I really want to get back out there on the employment scene but it's so hard. And I hate feeling like I'm a burden for my mother (I know I am not but I like being independent and having my own money). *sigh* Life, am I right?

Merman Chatfish
12-12-2015, 10:36 PM
its frustrating…I have so much to look forward to towards the end of the month (mer-mania and christmas)…and right now I don’t care about life

PearlieMae
12-12-2015, 11:24 PM
So wait it out. You said yourself you have things to look forward to. It's more than some of us have.

MermaidSandie
12-12-2015, 11:43 PM
Pearlie's words ring true!! Don't worry, I've found that time passes faster than you think it does, the good things will arrive in no time! Do something that hypes you for those events, go Christmas shopping, or find some cool stuff for mer-mania!! Or look at stupid stuff on the internet, that always cheers me up :)


Also, some small bitching, my previously mentioned boyfriend [I guess he's my ex now] is being a little frustrating. He said himself that he wanted to be friends, but now doesn't talk to me unless I talk to him. He's being super awkward and quiet and it's freaking me out.

Mermaid Lorelei
12-13-2015, 12:09 AM
For anyone curious, I got my Nexplanon removed! (This is a great thing, but I figured I'd post it here considering this is where I brought it up originally.) I'm already seeing improvements and it's only been two days. Thank you to everyone who posted kind words for me the other day. C:

rivermermaid
12-13-2015, 04:38 AM
This probably has nothing to do with what everybody is talking about but can we talk about Stereotypes for a minute?

Now I'm Australia, born and breed and from Victoria.

I've been asked so many times why I'm not blond. Like "Hey, you're Australian, Tan and Female, why don't you have blond hair?" or something a long those lines.
Or if I'm *insert any nationality apart from Australian* based on the fact I don't sound like somebody from the Gold Coast and more of a weird mix between British, Greek, Japanese and with a twang from the "Australian accent" which if you grew up near Melbourne or Adelaide you would have a version of!

Don't even get me started on BBQs and shrimps.

Do any of my other Australian Mers gotten things like this from people from other countries or is it just me?

Mer-Crazy
12-13-2015, 07:50 AM
I've never had anyone ask me why I'm not blonde... then again I'm a bit pudgy and not tan enough to fit the aussie beach babe stereo type, and I know sometimes my accent gets a bit americanish (I watch too much YouTube and tv) so I guess that's it.

Side note are you living on the Gold Coast? Cause if so they yey more south east Queensland mers!

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PhaylennMurúch
12-13-2015, 02:57 PM
I think you'll find that people from everywhere get those questions from people NOT from there, or it's just questions because people have a preconceived idea of who and what you are supposed to be and it freaks them out when you're not.
This is a list of actual questions I've gotten from people (not mers, just people)

"Why don't you say 'like' all the time?" <--white,blue eyed so obviously a Valley Girl
"Why are you not tan?" <--California
"Do you surf? Why not?" <--again, California
"Why are you not gay?" <-- born and raised in San Francisco
"Why don't you smoke pot?" <-- went to Humboldt State University
"Where's your accent" <-- Scots/Irish, apparently we get the accent in a care package or something
"Why don't you like Patchouli?" <--... I don't even know about this one

cletusk20
12-13-2015, 04:34 PM
Sounds familiar. When I moved to Washington state from Texas, I got many strange questions as well.

Why don't you wear a cowboy hat?

Them: I thought people from Texas had an accent like this. (makes bad doc holiday impersonation)

Them: Did you have to sell your horse before you moved? Me: No, never owned a horse

Them: Can you teach me to line dance? Me: No on multiple levels. Don't dance and don't like country music.

I could go on but .... yeah I get how you feel.

IllynReaver
12-13-2015, 05:11 PM
@ Chatfish, what Pearlie said. You have something to look forward too, focus on that instead of all the negative. I know it's hard to do, personally I've had problems focusing on anything positive with my recent job loss. Just take it a day at a time, you'll get through this. You've made it this far!

@ Lorelei, congrats!

Mermaid Lilium
12-13-2015, 05:16 PM
On the subject of stereotypes, people assume I live in London. Cause all Brits live in London. *nods*

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Starfrit
12-13-2015, 05:17 PM
So I just got off the phone with my mom. She's on her way to my dad's house three towns over, because somehow my little sister showed up there so fucked up on cocaine that she can't speak coherently or eat anything.

Assuming she doesn't wind up in the hospital (or the morgue, if I could get my hands on the little shit myself), she'll be shipped off to a detox clinic tonight.

The worst part? None of us are surprised. At all.

We caught her back in February, she was put on lockdown at Dad's house for a week. Given a huge goddamn reality check. Since then she'd acted like she'd smartened up. Over the last ten months I'd been checking up on her, seeing how she was doing. She'd convinced me she was off it, that she was in a much better place in her life. And from the way things were going with her political job, her overall moods... I gave her the benefit of a doubt. I trusted her.

And this shit is exactly why I just don't trust people anymore.

I was gonna give her a variety basket of homemade fudge for Christmas. I bought eleven pounds of the best goddamn raw chocolate on the island.

She'll be lucky she doesn't just get it all shoved up her asshole and a boot to the face for Christmas. Fuck's sake.

Spindrift
12-13-2015, 05:39 PM
So I just got off the phone with my mom. She's on her way to my dad's house three towns over, because somehow my little sister showed up there so fucked up on cocaine that she can't speak coherently or eat anything.

Assuming she doesn't wind up in the hospital (or the morgue, if I could get my hands on the little shit myself), she'll be shipped off to a detox clinic tonight.

The worst part? None of us are surprised. At all.

We caught her back in February, she was put on lockdown at Dad's house for a week. Given a huge goddamn reality check. Since then she'd acted like she'd smartened up. Over the last ten months I'd been checking up on her, seeing how she was doing. She'd convinced me she was off it, that she was in a much better place in her life. And from the way things were going with her political job, her overall moods... I gave her the benefit of a doubt. I trusted her.

And this shit is exactly why I just don't trust people anymore.

I was gonna give her a variety basket of homemade fudge for Christmas. I bought eleven pounds of the best goddamn raw chocolate on the island.

She'll be lucky she doesn't just get it all shoved up her asshole and a boot to the face for Christmas. Fuck's sake.


That's horrible. I feel for you and your family. One of my exes used to be brilliant and incredibly smart and just an extremely kind guy. I last saw him around July 4th of this year. Since then his entire mental health has deteriorated due to drugs. In just a few short months he went from being a really kind and patient person to someone who makes incoherent statements, doesn't follow logic, thinks he himself has the answers to the universe and humanity's race problems, and genuinely wants to see more people "exterminated" because none of us are following the divine path. It's scary.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-13-2015, 05:42 PM
Oh Tieri. I'm so sorry.. addiction is so hard, amd it just leads to lying about how you're okay. Just general betrayal to the nth degree on all levels. Sending warm wishes to you and your sister.

PhaylennMurúch
12-13-2015, 07:11 PM
Don't feel an ounce of guilt over believing your sister, Tieri, addicts are accomplished liars. They can and will say anything/do anything in order to feed the most important thing in their life (to them) which is the acquiring and using of whatever drug they are in a relationship with.

Take that wonderful chocolate and make the best damn fudgey fudge and share it with people in your life who make you smile

PearlieMae
12-13-2015, 07:49 PM
Addiction is insidious and chances are your sister feels at least as bad for not being able to control her addiction as you do feeling betrayed. You can choose to write her off and let her try and deal with it on her own or you can try and help her overcome her addiction. Speak with someone at AA or Narcotics Anonymous and see if they can advise you on how to deal with this.

Mermaid Mystery
12-13-2015, 08:08 PM
so we were supposed to have a nice night at the little mermaid but as soon as I leave my room my mom starts bitching. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/13/4cb70e63e40a1e418a0029aa1ff2d076.jpg I wear my adorable jewelry from my secret Santa out into the living room and she starts going at me. "you look like you're 12" "you look like a little girl" So I take it off and she starts bitching at me to put it back on but I'll still look twelve. now we're on the car and she's bitching at me for not eating much today. she probably hasn't eaten anything either but do I scream at her? no. She's bitching at me for not finishing my homework and not being done studying for finals but she wasn't home to wake me up or feed me so whose fucking fault is that? I'm so sick of her.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-13-2015, 08:21 PM
Well, in her defense, Mystery, you're getting older. You need to be able to autonomously wake up, do your work, and take care of yourself.

My mom and I have this fight a lot because she worries about me, my health, and my ability to take care of myself when I fly the nest this fall.

And I have a job, know how to cook, love vegetables, cook them too, eat regularly, continually dress like I'm twenty five, continually talk like I'm twenty five (if not forty), etc.

It's her job to bitch.

Mermaid Mystery
12-13-2015, 08:51 PM
I get what you're saying but they left me home alone knowing that because I also have a sleeping disorder I don't wake up early, and then having an eating disorder on top of that they should know that I don't get up to eat. I just don't, and it's not something I control. I did do most of my work, but again I have multiple learning disabilities, and didn't finish everything. I'm not trying to blame everything on mental illness, but it's there, and when they leave me alone I'm not in the right place to function completely. They know this.

Mermaid Jaffa
12-13-2015, 09:11 PM
Sounds like your Mum is trying to live her life through you.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-13-2015, 09:33 PM
That makes more sense, Mystery. Sorry that's all going on.

But I do think she's coming from a place of concern.

Mermaid Clara
12-13-2015, 11:03 PM
my mom stopped taking her medicine and started drinking again. To make things worse told me that all I care about is stuff and I don't care about her. She actually fucking believes that, I know that its not true, but i'm afraid that maybe it is true. But I know it can't be true because if I really didn't care about her then what she said wouldn't be hurting me so much right now. I'm not fucking fine, i'm torn.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-13-2015, 11:11 PM
*hugs*
Again, that addiction monster loves to lash out at everyone and anyone. I'm sorry you're at the receiving end here.

rivermermaid
12-13-2015, 11:20 PM
I've never had anyone ask me why I'm not blonde... then again I'm a bit pudgy and not tan enough to fit the aussie beach babe stereo type, and I know sometimes my accent gets a bit americanish (I watch too much YouTube and tv) so I guess that's it.

Side note are you living on the Gold Coast? Cause if so they yey more south east Queensland mers!

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I'm South Aistralian so...
But these are thing I've gotten asked by New Zealanders... Sure, I don't sound like the rest of the lower South Island but damn, I'm just trying to finish school so I can go back home to the Clair Valley.

The sad thing is that I do have a surfing chicks body (Apart from that my upper body is very... masculine) and my tan is mostly from spending too much time in the river by my house.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-14-2015, 12:16 AM
Ugh. Sound is not playing on my Lenovo's movie maker. Why???? I need to finish this damn project!

Hollydell
12-14-2015, 02:04 AM
So about a week ago I convinced my dad to get my the finis competitor monofin for my birthday (December 22) I looked at different places online and found that swim outlet has the best sale on for Christmas but they don't have my size. After surfing the website for a bit I found they have an online customer service chat. So I opened it up and asked when my size would be in. The gentleman said they would be in December 12th and if my dad got the faster delivery I would have it in time for my birthday (so I can pretend to be surprised haha) but yesterday when I went to see if they had stock they still didn't. Today I spoke to a different customer service person and they said they don't know when the monofins would be in and left it at that. She said she did some digging but couldn't find a date. I don't know when the monofins will be in, I'm not mad at the CS girl but I'm annoyed I'm gonna miss the deal so I don't think my dad will buy it for me at full price. I'm upset they told me one date and it didn't show up (again might not even be swim outlets fault) it just really sucks.


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Spindrift
12-14-2015, 04:25 AM
So about a week ago I convinced my dad to get my the finis competitor monofin for my birthday (December 22) I looked at different places online and found that swim outlet has the best sale on for Christmas but they don't have my size. After surfing the website for a bit I found they have an online customer service chat. So I opened it up and asked when my size would be in. The gentleman said they would be in December 12th and if my dad got the faster delivery I would have it in time for my birthday (so I can pretend to be surprised haha) but yesterday when I went to see if they had stock they still didn't. Today I spoke to a different customer service person and they said they don't know when the monofins would be in and left it at that. She said she did some digging but couldn't find a date. I don't know when the monofins will be in, I'm not mad at the CS girl but I'm annoyed I'm gonna miss the deal so I don't think my dad will buy it for me at full price. I'm upset they told me one date and it didn't show up (again might not even be swim outlets fault) it just really sucks.


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Maybe you can call them and place the order on the phone and that way you can work that out. Also remember that there are discount codes you can use from Hannah Mermaid or Kariel and I think it's 20%

Starfrit
12-14-2015, 11:15 AM
Quick update on the situation from last night.

She didn't go to the detox clinic. She denied taking anything beyond the prescribed pain meds she's been taking since her surgery a few months back, which means one of three things:

1) She's fucking lying
2) She's telling the truth, for once, and no cocaine is involved, except she's now abusing her pain medications instead
3) She's telling the truth in that she didn't do any coke last night, but took the painkillers while it was still in her system from shortly before and the meds reacted badly to it.

I'm not a doctor, still doing research on it, so IDK. Those are my best guesses.

Dad's taking today off to look after her and find her "someone to talk to," which is something at least?? I'm skeptical, but whatever.

Sent her a text today asking if she wanted to come over this weekend to bake fudge with me. Maybe bonding shit like that will help, somehow. I dunno.

Mermaid Lorelei
12-14-2015, 11:42 AM
Alrighty, so, it looks like I MAY have developed hypothyroidism from my birth control implant. Woohoo. I'm having bloodwork done this week to find out. If nothing else, my doctors won't be able to ignore the shit that is nexplanon anymore.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-14-2015, 03:20 PM
Holy shit, all.

Mermaid Mystery
12-15-2015, 12:49 AM
my English teacher has made part of our final grade notes for the final but she hasn't told us what to write and she moved the final to tomorrow. I'm so angry. we haven't done ANY finals prep in her class. I want to scream

Sabrina the Selkie
12-15-2015, 08:40 AM
It'll be fine, Mystery. The more you stress about finals, the worse you do. If you've been doing the work, you'll do well on the final.

Mermaid Clara
12-15-2015, 05:42 PM
Oh my god! I'm at school and these students are a fucking joke. To make things worse I'm trying to study in the lounge because the library is full. People are belching and screaming and yelling. I'm so fucking done with these shitty low lifes' crap! I can barely type this because it's that loud in here. Please pray for me so I don't freak out or murder anyone.


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Mermaid Lily_Pad
12-16-2015, 10:49 PM
I'm kind of angry. A friend of mine got fired at work and they way it all went down bothers me, basically this is sort of what happened.

My coworkers were all hanging out in the break room. Female coworker is talking about her weight, that she needs to Go on a diet, her ass looks big, etc etc, male co worker tells her she looks fine. Her butt looks fine. She doesn't need to diet. Female co worker goes to boss, files basically a sexual harassment against male co worker for making comments about her butt. Boss fires male coworker for sexual harassment. Male coworker has been one of the nicest people I have met since starting there. He is a cancer survivor and he works taking care of people in hospice. I tried to tell my boss that I have never seen him do anything inappropriate, but she had to follow protocols. I am friends with the female coworker, even if I disagree with what she did. She genuinely thought he had wronged her, but getting a guy fired right before Xmas. Gah, I'm so frustrated.

Mermaid Alea
12-17-2015, 12:23 AM
That is really upsetting Mermaid Lily Pad. :( Poor guy he was just trying to be nice. :(

Merman Arion
12-17-2015, 07:44 AM
I really disagree with the whole thing. Just because he made a comment to make her feel better and more comfortable with her skin is not enough to file a sexual harassment. Come on.... I'm a receptionist, I work with a lot of female coworkers, I always have a nice comment for them about their clothes, their hair when I notice something different. We already had a talk about weight issues, boobs issues, diet and such, I told to each one of them they were all looking fine and none got upset. Perhaps the fact that I'm gay is a different ground than your story but still, they all knew I meant well and not something perverted. Heck, what should I say about my coworkers saying that I have a big black butt huh? Should I feel uncomfortable? Heck no, they were just teasing. I've got a big butt and I can't lie lol

Mermaid Lily_Pad
12-17-2015, 07:57 AM
I work at a spa. We are always talking about bodies, teasing each other, goofing around. It's the nature of our work to be comfortable around each other. We sometimes have hours between clients where we sit around and BS with each other. At times we even work on each other to get practice. (We are LMTs). We are encouraged to work on each other to keep healthy since our joints ache. Now we can't even work on each other's carpel tunnel syndromes. Basically this is a warning to men in the workplace. What one girl perceives as light hearted teasing, another may view as sexual harassment. Watch what you say and do.

SeaGlass Siren
12-17-2015, 07:58 AM
^ I think it's more so the fact that because you're gay they know you won't swing that way and :edit here because wasn't worded correctly: there's no threat
Still the guy shouldn't have been fired.... If he said something derogatory then yeah that's grounds to be fired but telling the girl she's beautiful the way she is and doesn't need to diet and getting fired for it is just blegh

Mermaid Lily_Pad
12-17-2015, 08:15 AM
They posted sexual harassment posters in our break room. They basically state:
No commenting on a persons looks, as that could be seen as flirting and is unprofessional.
No touching of any sort, which includes hugs, pats on the shoulder, etc.
No making any sexual comments at any time.

Basically, stand two feet away while ignoring the piece of lettuce stuck in your coworkers teeth and talk only about the weather.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-17-2015, 08:20 AM
Ooof. Wow.

Merman Dan
12-17-2015, 09:15 AM
Your friends co-worker sounds like a:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu5QNDuCAAAOT-H.jpg

PearlieMae
12-17-2015, 09:22 AM
Dan! Be nice! You never know...she MIGHT have a bone!


They posted sexual harassment posters in our break room. They basically state:
No commenting on a persons looks, as that could be seen as flirting and is unprofessional.
No touching of any sort, which includes hugs, pats on the shoulder, etc.
No making any sexual comments at any time.

Basically, stand two feet away while ignoring the piece of lettuce stuck in your coworkers teeth and talk only about the weather.

Was this before or after the firing? Do they have a zero tolerance policy? Were there witnesses?

Merman Dan
12-17-2015, 09:25 AM
Dan! Be nice! You never know...she MIGHT have a bone!

:P Yeah, I didn't witness the event in question so I only said she sounded like one. Still, we live in an age where bumping into someone can lead to a case of simple assault.

Merman Arion
12-17-2015, 09:53 AM
Meh. Guys check out my butt at the gym when I do my workout sessions (it's a gay gym btw) and I don't mind much because I kinda like the attention. It even gives me more motivation to work harder, especially when I get some flirting and encouraging comments. However, when I get to the public showers and someone thinks he can touch and feel my butt without my consent, now that's crossing a line and I can get pretty angry about it.

RomanLaveau
12-17-2015, 11:17 AM
Meh. Guys check out my butt at the gym when I do my workout sessions (it's a gay gym btw) and I don't mind much because I kinda like the attention. It even gives me more motivation to work harder, especially when I get some flirting and encouraging comments. However, when I get to the public showers and someone thinks he can touch and feel my butt without my consent, now that's crossing a line and I can get pretty angry about it.

The showers aren't individual? That sucks! Gross, I understand how you feel on the butt thing though, I don't understand how guys think it's okay to just touch someone else without their permission!

Merman Arion
12-17-2015, 12:11 PM
The showers aren't individual? That sucks! Gross, I understand how you feel on the butt thing though, I don't understand how guys think it's okay to just touch someone else without their permission!

There are a few cabins for individual showers but they are always occupied when I get there so I suck it up and go to the public ones. I don't mind it much. I mind only when some are trying to be smartass and think it's okay to touch but it's not. I always call them out publicly. The shame is strong enough for them to not try it again.

Mermaid Strega
12-17-2015, 12:13 PM
My gods you guys. (Group hug) sounds like 2015 has been a doozy. My cousin/best friends baby has been having unexplained seizures for a couple weeks now, in and out of the hospital. They're in Texas and I'm so far away it's just so stressful. We've had 9 deaths in the family in the last two years including my little brother in August and my biological dad and grandpa last Christmas. I've been emotional- havin a hard time coping with the grief that seems at odds with the joy you're supposed to be feeling this time of year. I broke down crying last night, and my three year old just kept patting my head, bless his little heart.

Another friend is jobless so I feel for him and his wife too- such a rough year. Hopefully it'll be better next year for everyone. We all deserve a dang break.

Imogen Finnly
12-17-2015, 06:24 PM
My neighbors yell and fight so much, they shake the walls, I swear someone is going to get killed or stabbed. its so hardcore. It happens almost everyday too.. fuck, break up already.

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Merman Arion
12-17-2015, 06:27 PM
My neighbors yell and fight so much, they shake the walls, I swear someone is going to get killed or stabbed. its so hardcore. It happens almost everyday too.. fuck, break up already.

Well, it does sound bad but try to put it this way, would you rather hear them having loud dirty sex?? :thinks:

I'm just saying.

Imogen Finnly
12-17-2015, 06:29 PM
Haha at this point, I would rather hear them do anything else. But I have to admit- i kinda am a chesmoso (nosey or busy body) and I listen to them haha

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SeaGlass Siren
12-17-2015, 07:04 PM
I think I rather the loud dirty sex as opposed to potential murdering/domestic violence and the like.

deepblue
12-17-2015, 07:06 PM
Yep, me too.
Sure, rather hear neither.
But at least the latter is people enjoying themselves.

SeaGlass Siren
12-17-2015, 07:09 PM
You can be a troll and knock on the wall asking to join LOL

Sabrina the Selkie
12-17-2015, 07:26 PM
Yes. My upstairs neighbors. People have suggested I do just that. XD.

ALSO. Like a fucking comedy routine, I walked face first into a pole today. Broke my glasses. My head hurts like a bitch, and I'm on my way to work.

Madison MerFaerie
12-17-2015, 09:57 PM
Hold the phone, I need to go back to Arion's post.
1. Gay gyms exist? I learn something new every day!
2. People in the gym think it's ok to touch someone's butt without permission? WTF is wrong with people?!

Keiris
12-17-2015, 11:13 PM
They posted sexual harassment posters in our break room. They basically state:
No commenting on a persons looks, as that could be seen as flirting and is unprofessional.
No touching of any sort, which includes hugs, pats on the shoulder, etc.
No making any sexual comments at any time.

Basically, stand two feet away while ignoring the piece of lettuce stuck in your coworkers teeth and talk only about the weather.

Your place of work sounds bleak. Ugh.

Keiris
12-17-2015, 11:19 PM
Well, it does sound bad but try to put it this way, would you rather hear them having loud dirty sex?? :thinks:

I'm just saying.

I definitely would rather hear that...and then film it. :lol:

Keiris
12-17-2015, 11:24 PM
Meh. Guys check out my butt at the gym when I do my workout sessions (it's a gay gym btw) and I don't mind much because I kinda like the attention. It even gives me more motivation to work harder, especially when I get some flirting and encouraging comments. However, when I get to the public showers and someone thinks he can touch and feel my butt without my consent, now that's crossing a line and I can get pretty angry about it.

I'm sure it's worth the risk. ;)

Mermaid Mystery
12-18-2015, 01:47 AM
I hope no one gets mad at this rant because there has been a LOT leading up to it.
Stop fucking patronizing people for not being vegan! Not everyone has a choice!! And some people straight up aren't going to, get over it. Seriously, i would LOVE to go vegan but I can't! I have a stupid eating disorder! Stop shaming me for not conforming to your life choices! it's sickening, and if veganism is the only thing that defines you then that's pretty sad and you need to go out and get a life.

deepblue
12-18-2015, 02:08 AM
You can be a troll and knock on the wall asking to join LOL

I came *thisclose* to leaving a bottle of Gatorade and a post it note with '10' (as in points) on it in front of my old upstairs neighbor's door, after he had a night of what sounded like Olympic sex. He'd have been amused, we got along in that kind of way, but I didn't have any Gatorade that day, and then his gf broke up with him so I didn't get to. I'd have done the next time they did, I think.

Merman Arion
12-18-2015, 03:43 AM
Hold the phone, I need to go back to Arion's post.
1. Gay gyms exist? I learn something new every day!
2. People in the gym think it's ok to touch someone's butt without permission? WTF is wrong with people?!

1.They do exist. Underneath mine, there is a sauna, a hammam, a room where you can get a thaï massage, a maze, a tv-room where you can watch some porn movies and a few cabins with beds where you can fuck with someone you had eyes on while you were working out in the gym.
2. Sadly, yeah... Once, I was drying my back with my towel after a shower and a guy thought he could touch and feel my balls and make a joke. I was so ready to punch him but the fact that he was in his sixties kind of stopped me. Needless to say, I took another shower as I didn't know where his hands had been before. BLEH.

Mermaid Lily_Pad
12-18-2015, 07:10 AM
They have a 0 tolerance policy. Meh.

SeaGlass Siren
12-18-2015, 08:18 AM
Arion your gym sounds... Uh... Awesome except for the fact that there isn't any way to protect patrons.

I suggest cussing them the eff out.

Kelby The Mermaid
12-18-2015, 09:29 AM
Nah I agree with you there hun. Really. I mean my sister vegetarian and I do eats (kinda) healthy but she doesn't push her foos ideals on me. I like meat, I have a sacred relationship with bread and no ine can pry it out of my cold dead fingers

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Kelby The Mermaid
12-18-2015, 09:33 AM
Well that is kinda interesting gym. But yea I would think a 0 policy would be strictly enforced. As for the old guy touching you. Wel I would have stilled punched him, thats even creepier. But when it come with sexual harrassment I don't take shit and thats usually my automatic response. And then swearing them out

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Merman Arion
12-18-2015, 10:01 AM
Arion your gym sounds... Uh... Awesome except for the fact that there isn't any way to protect patrons.

I suggest cussing them the eff out.

I know the fact that there is a basement made for hooking up with guys can seem "off" under a gym but as I previously said, it's a GAY gym. In Berlin, there are gay clubs with the same kind of basement. Sex sells. A LOT. And I'm gonna be honest, I already had a few moments with some guys who had eyes on me during my work out sessions and they were so hot I would have been a fool to let the opportunity pass. If that makes me a slut, fine. I like sex and I'm not ashamed of it *shrug*

The only thing that makes me kind of mad is that even when you don't send ANY signal, some guys think it's okay to make a move. Like for example, I'm just sitting in the hammam, relaxing and sweating after my work out, I'm wearing a towel, my arms are crossed, my eyes are closed and I'm just enjoying the heat. And then, some guy sit next to me, wait a few minutes and then put his hand on my thighs without my consent! That's the moment when I tell them to f*ck off!

Fortunately, it doesn't happen much. Most of them have manners and know how to read signals but some just don't.

Merman Arion
12-18-2015, 10:04 AM
I'm sure it's worth the risk. ;)

If it were you, it would be another story [emoji5]

PearlieMae
12-18-2015, 10:34 AM
If it were you, it would be another story [emoji5]

:swoon:

I wonder...if you were sitting there with your eyes closed, maybe you missed some playful banter and they took your silence as an invitation instead of realizing you couldn't hear them? ;)

Merman Arion
12-18-2015, 10:51 AM
:swoon:

I wonder...if you were sitting there with your eyes closed, maybe you missed some playful banter and they took your silence as an invitation instead of realizing you couldn't hear them? ;)

Well, it´s true that I always take off my hearing aids when I'm using the hammam to relax so obviously I can't hear much :doh: I mostly close my eyes but I always watch out my surroundings to make sure no creeper sit next to me.

Imogen Finnly
12-18-2015, 11:51 AM
Arion, you are deaf? I had no idea!

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Merman Arion
12-18-2015, 12:06 PM
Arion, you are deaf? I had no idea!

YUP :) Deaf since my birth. I have been wearing my hearing aids on both ears since I was five years old.

Ariel-Starfish
12-18-2015, 12:37 PM
Well, it´s true that I always take off my hearing aids when I'm using the hammam to relax so obviously I can't hear much :doh: I mostly close my eyes but I always watch out my surroundings to make sure no creeper sit next to me.

While my eyes are not fully devolpt due being premature, my hearing is just the other way around! I can hear almost EVERYTHING it freaks me out sometimes, and get quite irritating. with having Autism, I really hate irritating stuff other people can't or just don't hear as good as me.

Imogen Finnly
12-18-2015, 09:16 PM
YUP :) Deaf since my birth. I have been wearing my hearing aids on both ears since I was five years old.
Wow! I didn't know that. Do you use French sign language?

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SeaGlass Siren
12-18-2015, 09:25 PM
I know the fact that there is a basement made for hooking up with guys can seem "off" under a gym but as I previously said, it's a GAY gym. In Berlin, there are gay clubs with the same kind of basement. Sex sells. A LOT. And I'm gonna be honest, I already had a few moments with some guys who had eyes on me during my work out sessions and they were so hot I would have been a fool to let the opportunity pass. If that makes me a slut, fine. I like sex and I'm not ashamed of it *shrug*

The only thing that makes me kind of mad is that even when you don't send ANY signal, some guys think it's okay to make a move. Like for example, I'm just sitting in the hammam, relaxing and sweating after my work out, I'm wearing a towel, my arms are crossed, my eyes are closed and I'm just enjoying the heat. And then, some guy sit next to me, wait a few minutes and then put his hand on my thighs without my consent! That's the moment when I tell them to f*ck off!

Fortunately, it doesn't happen much. Most of them have manners and know how to read signals but some just don't.


Dont get get me wrong I'm totally fine with people practicing sex (hey it's a human need
to get off every once in a while, it means you're healthy :p)

The gym with a hookup area and extra perks just took me off guard. Never knew such things existed.

SeaGlass Siren
12-18-2015, 09:28 PM
I want a Thai masseuse at our gyms.... :(

Fun123joker
12-19-2015, 12:22 AM
i've been feeling down lately. for my anatomy class we have a job shadowing project where we have to intern/volenteer somewhere which has somthing to do with the medical field

i've been asking but i keep on getting rejected. you'd think hospitals would take anyone but they have standards that i cant go by. most of it is because of age.

idk, my other classmates have been alreaddy working and i havent found one place who has even emailed/called me back. i know i shouldnt take it personally but i cant help but to think why no one wants my help.

SeaGlass Siren
12-19-2015, 08:11 AM
Maybe because you're too fishy :baduntss:
Jokes aside im sorry it's been difficult for you :(

Sabrina the Selkie
12-19-2015, 09:09 PM
So my grandmother's dog has an incredibly sweet nature, but they ruined him with poor training. I'm sitting on their couch with him next to me one paw lifted to help me give him a good scratch, nuzzling his head into my side, after an extremely frantic, loud grab at my dinner.

I think he may out live them, and I don't know if I'll be able to take him.

A badly behaved old dog won't be adopted.

deepblue
12-19-2015, 09:54 PM
I know the fact that there is a basement made for hooking up with guys can seem "off" under a gym but as I previously said, it's a GAY gym.~snip~ Fortunately, it doesn't happen much. Most of them have manners and know how to read signals but some just don't.

I'm sorry you have to deal with unwanted advances, it doesn't matter where you are. We have gyms here, and some are known as gay gyms, some even end up as hook-up joints, but the actual hook up joints or bath houses are quite separate, at least that what I've seen so far. I'm not gay man, of course, but when so many friends are, you're aware. And I used to live in the best LGBT neighborhood in SoCal; Hillcrest. LOVE and miss that little city within a city.


So my grandmother's dog has an incredibly sweet nature, but they ruined him with poor training. I'm sitting on their couch with him next to me one paw lifted to help me give him a good scratch, nuzzling his head into my side, after an extremely frantic, loud grab at my dinner.

I think he may out live them, and I don't know if I'll be able to take him.

A badly behaved old dog won't be adopted.

It's never too late with dogs! Esp if someone could start retraining, new training, now. But if you can't (since he's not yours), it would def be worth a shot if you end up with him. The saying about teaching old dogs new tricks applies to humans pretending they can't change. :p Old dogs can and are often happy to relearn, and if not, you'll know you tried. :)

I have a small bitch-out.
We recently moved into a condo, and the everyday sounds of people living life are extremely difficult for me to deal with. :/ In my last home, a duplex, we barely heard anyone. I think I got super used to it. In the apartment before that, the manager was wonderfully strict and everyone (but my upstairs neighbor on date night) was super quiet or got kicked out. Before those, I lived in houses for many years.

It's been almost three months and I'm finally starting to not feel on edge all the time. I have extremely sensitive hearing... if nothing else, I'm learning again to use meditation and such to chill the eff out.

deepblue
12-19-2015, 09:56 PM
I know the fact that there is a basement made for hooking up with guys can seem "off" under a gym but as I previously said, it's a GAY gym.~snip~ Fortunately, it doesn't happen much. Most of them have manners and know how to read signals but some just don't.

I'm sorry you have to deal with unwanted advances, it doesn't matter where you are. We have gyms here, and some are known as gay gyms, some even end up as hook-up joints, but the actual hook up joints or bath houses are quite separate, at least that what I've seen so far. I'm not gay man, of course, but when so many friends are, you're aware. And I used to live in the best LGBT neighborhood in SoCal; Hillcrest. LOVE and miss that little city within a city. My lesbian friends tend to not deal with the same issues, or at least, they haven't talked about it.


So my grandmother's dog has an incredibly sweet nature, but they ruined him with poor training. I'm sitting on their couch with him next to me one paw lifted to help me give him a good scratch, nuzzling his head into my side, after an extremely frantic, loud grab at my dinner.

I think he may out live them, and I don't know if I'll be able to take him.

A badly behaved old dog won't be adopted.

It's never too late with dogs! Esp if someone could start retraining, new training, now. But if you can't (since he's not yours), it would def be worth a shot if you end up with him. The saying about teaching old dogs new tricks applies to humans pretending they can't change. :p Old dogs can and are often happy to relearn, and if not, you'll know you tried. :)

I have a small bitch-out.
We recently moved into a condo, and the everyday sounds of people living life are extremely difficult for me to deal with. :/ In my last home, a duplex, we barely heard anyone. I think I got super used to it. In the apartment before that, the manager was wonderfully strict and everyone (but my upstairs neighbor on date night) was super quiet or got kicked out. Before those, I lived in houses for many years.

It's been almost three months and I'm finally starting to not feel on edge all the time. I have extremely sensitive hearing... if nothing else, I'm learning again to use meditation and such to chill the eff out.

Starfrit
12-20-2015, 08:26 PM
Another update on the sister's-drug-addiction thing.

So after everything exploded and Little Sister (L) got busted again last weekend, it turned out that not only was she was fucking wrecked on drugs, but she had done speed, that day, WHILE SHE WAS HELPING OUR OLDER SISTER OUT AT HER SELF-OWNED BUSINESS. You know, the business that Older Sister (O) has spent countless years of her life building towards. That she's only had for, like, a year. The one she could fucking lose if word gets out to her clients that she's hired on somebody who is DOING DRUGS AT THE STORE WHILE HANDLING CUSTOMERS' ANIMALS.

The only reason O found out was because a mutual friend of theirs, who L is disturbingly open to about her drug use, messaged O concerned after she heard about the shitstorm from Sunday to tell her that L had admitted to not sleeping since that Thursday, and taking speed regularly over several days to keep herself awake.

It's been a week and O still hasn't spoken a word to her. I don't blame her.

Kept my invitation open for her to come baking with me at my house this weekend, against the wishes of literally everyone, because I'd hoped I could talk to her, figure out what was going on, and help in some way (translation: "Because I'm a fucking idiot.") Overall, it went great, but Friday night things got... Weird.

I asked her, "Can I ask you what happened last weekend," to which she responded, "Nope!" Okay, fair enough. I'm not gonna push it.

I asked her, "Were you on any drugs when you were at [Business] with O?"

This didn't get a "No." This didn't get a "Yes," either. What it got was a weird, hour-long paranoid tirade that had literally nothing to do with the question, starting with "Mom and O are blowing everything out of proportion, it wasn't that bad," that went to "Dad's bringing me to this drug clinic twice a week for counseling, but it's mainly for convicts and criminals, so I don't know why I'm there, but I'm going to volunteer there and help out!" (Deflection. She doesn't want people to find out she's there because of a drug addiction, she wants to say she works there so she can put the focus on how much better she is than the other people who are there seeking help.)

And then it got weirder. She went into some weird rant about Mom, some made-up shit about the reason Mom and Dad got divorced (Honey, I've heard a thousand things from both sides about why they got divorced and it doesn't matter. Fuck off, yeah?), and then started going on about the Mount Cashel (http://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/politics/wells-government-mount-cashel-timeline.php) scandal from the 90's, and something about her getting somebody arrested when she was in primary school (this was totally unrelated to the Mount Cashel thing, I had to ask her three or four times to clarify), but how she went to the police station to get the report and the report doesn't exist, and she's just so mindfucked, man, like she doesn't know if everyone's lying to her or not!!

And then she confessed that Dad had dropped her off at her boyfriend's house earlier that day, before she came to my house. Where does her boyfriend live? In the same house as her "Dom," the sleazebag who got her into these drugs in the first place (and at whose house we found her in when she got busted the first time back in February, having gone AWOL from her political job in the middle of her lunchbreak to get fucked up on cocaine in the guy's makeshift sex dungeon.) So she's walking all over Dad, and Dad's enabling her, and now O is at Dad's house tonight yelling at him for dropping her off to hang out with the people who are encouraging the drug habit we're trying to get her to stop.

L found out that I told O, L is mad at me, we got into a fight over FB PMs and I told her she won't be coming back to my house anymore and there's nothing I can do for her anymore because all she does is lie and use people and I can't trust her anymore. I shut off notifications on our thread, but she's sent me five messages since flipping out (I haven't read them. Not sure I want to.)

And now I'm sitting here, crying my eyes out, because I feel like I turned my back on my little sister, which I told myself I would never, ever do. I feel like a monster and a failure of an older sister for not doing more to help her. But there's nothing else I can do, because everything relies on her admitting that she needs help. And if she's just going to turn and bite me because I'm not telling her everything she wants to hear... Why keep putting myself that close anymore?

Merry fucking Christmas to me.

SeaGlass Siren
12-20-2015, 08:32 PM
:( I feel your pain.

lulubelle
12-20-2015, 10:43 PM
Sending love, Tieri. You can't fix her and you need to protect yourself. I hope she sorts it out soon.

IllynReaver
12-21-2015, 12:05 AM
@Sabrina the Selkie, What Blue said, it's never too late to properly train an animal. It just takes time and reaffirmation. Dogs that have been trained badly aren't happy, and they're confused. The stray dog I took in was badly trained and he's changed a lot in just a couple months. You can look up a lot of stuff online to help you do things on your own.

Mermaid Clara
12-21-2015, 07:46 PM
I woke up with a cold and I got my period last night and it's the week of Christmas! Good timing Mother Nature, good timing.[emoji35]


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Mermaid Mystery
12-21-2015, 08:26 PM
I made my mom refill my birth control prescription a week early just so I don't have to deal with that

Sabrina the Selkie
12-21-2015, 09:55 PM
I would be totally willing to do that, and I always do try to reaffirm good behaviours while I'm there, but the never keep it up. I might be permanently in Japan when they pass, or else otherwise not in the right situation to take of the dog.

So I'm just worried.

deepblue
12-22-2015, 02:43 PM
I would be totally willing to do that, and I always do try to reaffirm good behaviours while I'm there, but the never keep it up. I might be permanently in Japan when they pass, or else otherwise not in the right situation to take of the dog.

So I'm just worried.

I can understand that. Sounds like the situation has to be just so when it eventually happens or it's a no go, and you have no guarantees right now. I hope it works out as you hope, for you and the dog.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-22-2015, 04:42 PM
Yeah. Thank you.

deepblue
12-22-2015, 05:14 PM
Incidentally, I think it's awesome you care enough about the dog to be worried in the first place. Big props. Wish everyone were more like that with all the animals who might need homes again one day. Shelters would be much less needed.

Mermaid Clara
12-23-2015, 10:52 AM
I'm super sick. I don't know if i have a sinus infection or a really bad cold. I have to call in to work and tell them I'm sick. I really don't want to miss work but I have a come and go fever. I hope they understand and not yell at me. I can come in until they find someone to cover my shift,but hopefully there is enough people scheduled today so they won't have to call someone else in.

Adalira
12-23-2015, 04:53 PM
Another update on the sister's-drug-addiction thing.

So after everything exploded and Little Sister (L) got busted again last weekend, it turned out that not only was she was fucking wrecked on drugs, but she had done speed, that day, WHILE SHE WAS HELPING OUR OLDER SISTER OUT AT HER SELF-OWNED BUSINESS. You know, the business that Older Sister (O) has spent countless years of her life building towards. That she's only had for, like, a year. The one she could fucking lose if word gets out to her clients that she's hired on somebody who is DOING DRUGS AT THE STORE WHILE HANDLING CUSTOMERS' ANIMALS.

The only reason O found out was because a mutual friend of theirs, who L is disturbingly open to about her drug use, messaged O concerned after she heard about the shitstorm from Sunday to tell her that L had admitted to not sleeping since that Thursday, and taking speed regularly over several days to keep herself awake.

It's been a week and O still hasn't spoken a word to her. I don't blame her.

Kept my invitation open for her to come baking with me at my house this weekend, against the wishes of literally everyone, because I'd hoped I could talk to her, figure out what was going on, and help in some way (translation: "Because I'm a fucking idiot.") Overall, it went great, but Friday night things got... Weird.

I asked her, "Can I ask you what happened last weekend," to which she responded, "Nope!" Okay, fair enough. I'm not gonna push it.

I asked her, "Were you on any drugs when you were at [Business] with O?"

This didn't get a "No." This didn't get a "Yes," either. What it got was a weird, hour-long paranoid tirade that had literally nothing to do with the question, starting with "Mom and O are blowing everything out of proportion, it wasn't that bad," that went to "Dad's bringing me to this drug clinic twice a week for counseling, but it's mainly for convicts and criminals, so I don't know why I'm there, but I'm going to volunteer there and help out!" (Deflection. She doesn't want people to find out she's there because of a drug addiction, she wants to say she works there so she can put the focus on how much better she is than the other people who are there seeking help.)

And then it got weirder. She went into some weird rant about Mom, some made-up shit about the reason Mom and Dad got divorced (Honey, I've heard a thousand things from both sides about why they got divorced and it doesn't matter. Fuck off, yeah?), and then started going on about the Mount Cashel (http://www.heritage.nf.ca/articles/politics/wells-government-mount-cashel-timeline.php) scandal from the 90's, and something about her getting somebody arrested when she was in primary school (this was totally unrelated to the Mount Cashel thing, I had to ask her three or four times to clarify), but how she went to the police station to get the report and the report doesn't exist, and she's just so mindfucked, man, like she doesn't know if everyone's lying to her or not!!

And then she confessed that Dad had dropped her off at her boyfriend's house earlier that day, before she came to my house. Where does her boyfriend live? In the same house as her "Dom," the sleazebag who got her into these drugs in the first place (and at whose house we found her in when she got busted the first time back in February, having gone AWOL from her political job in the middle of her lunchbreak to get fucked up on cocaine in the guy's makeshift sex dungeon.) So she's walking all over Dad, and Dad's enabling her, and now O is at Dad's house tonight yelling at him for dropping her off to hang out with the people who are encouraging the drug habit we're trying to get her to stop.

L found out that I told O, L is mad at me, we got into a fight over FB PMs and I told her she won't be coming back to my house anymore and there's nothing I can do for her anymore because all she does is lie and use people and I can't trust her anymore. I shut off notifications on our thread, but she's sent me five messages since flipping out (I haven't read them. Not sure I want to.)

And now I'm sitting here, crying my eyes out, because I feel like I turned my back on my little sister, which I told myself I would never, ever do. I feel like a monster and a failure of an older sister for not doing more to help her. But there's nothing else I can do, because everything relies on her admitting that she needs help. And if she's just going to turn and bite me because I'm not telling her everything she wants to hear... Why keep putting myself that close anymore?

Merry fucking Christmas to me.

Tieri......i am so so so so sorry that you and your family are going through this!
Please don't feel like a failure, this is not your fault. Every person makes their own decisions wether we like it or not.
We can not beat ourselves up for others not wanting our help or advice.
Your sister needs to want to be helped herself. Se will be ready in her own time to accept she needs help.
I know that sounds weird, hard and un do-able, but if she is not ready to accept help or admit it, it's like banging your head against a wall over and over again.
We have had problems with certain members of our family for years and years untill my parents said :" No more." and pushed them out of our lives.
Sure at first you think...should we not be making up and forgiving them again? But in the end we followed through and our lives have been so stress free since then.
Not having to worry about family that does not want to be helped. I know it sounds harsh but sometimes in the end it is better to let go and close a chapter.
Off course it may be different when it is such close family like a sister ( the family i was talking about is my cousin, her husband and kids).
We can not controll others, the way they live their lives, we can not force them into what we think is a good path for them. All we can do is look after ourselves and make sure our own lives are happy and that we live the life we want to live.
Family is not something we choose, it is forced upon us by birth.
It is my belief that just because we happen to be born in the same family does not mean we have to always help each other out.
Like with my cousin and her family...i can truly say i do not love them at all, not one bit. I do not even care about them, we just happen to be blood related, nothing more.
True friends are the family you choose and sometimes that is the best family we have, the ones that we stick by you through thick and thin, you can always talk to and count on, the ones that won't judge you and be open minded and supportive.
I don't know what you need to do here. You need to follow your own heart, do what is best and right for you and stick to that. Even it is means making hard decisions.
I hope you and your family will find a way to enjoy Christmas and spend time with your loved ones.
Sending you a big hug!:hug:
You are always welcome to pm me if you want to talk!
Sorry if i said something wrong or something that makes no sense to you.
I am simply trying to show different point of views and i hope that came across.
As long as you choose what feels right in your heart, then that is the right decision.:hug:

Inkling
12-26-2015, 11:33 PM
It's is a rant for my friend more than anything. The story is so ridiculous and I'm so angry for her! This is a long story about her and her dog. If that isn't your thing, skip this. Otherwise, bare with me.

She trains and shows her dog in confirmation and agility, or should I use past tense? Anyway, she owns a "bully" breed. A breed often on restricted lists for housing and such. She did her research before getting him as a puppy. She trained him right. He's the sweetest, goofiest dog. Dog and people friendly. Super smart and really good at his sport.

Well one day my friend is invited to train with this lady she considers a friend. This lady is older, supposedly been showing and training all sorts of breeds since she was little. This lady is well-respected in the community, so my friend, let's call her Rachel, trusts this woman. We'll call this older lady Sarah.

My friend, Rachel, takes her dog to Sarah's place to run agility. They take turns on the course with their dogs. Then Sarah asks if she can run Rachel's dog. Sarah is a friend, Rachel's dog listens well to others, so she says sure. The dog is distracted with Sarah since it hasn't pottied in hours. It runs to the fence to pee and Sarah smacks it on its bottom to correct it. She tries to run the dog again, dog tries to run off and pee again. So Rachel sees her dog needs to potty, leashes it up and takes it off the field for a walk. Dog does its business and comes back ready to go. After maybe another 15 minutes of Sarah running Rachel's dog, it becomes bored (you don't train a dog for super long because they do become bored and you don't want to lose that drive and attention).

Sarah suggests using a toy to regain the dog's attention. Rachel says no, the toy Sarah had was a small ball. Too small for breed and the dog would only want to play keep away. Rachel explained this. Sarah ignores her and throws the ball. The dog grabs it, runs back towards Sarah and then runs past her in his goofy play mode. Sarah smacks him on his bottom as he goes by. It drops the ball, Sarah picks it up. Rachel tells her not to throw it again. Sarah throws it. The dog gets the ball and runs into the tunnel. Rachel pops it again and climbs in the tunnel with it to grab the ball when it dropped it. Again Rachel tries to stop this, telling this "trainer" not to throw the ball again. Sarah does and this time the dog runs off into a corner and Sarah followed it, grabbing the dog by its waist and trying to restrain it with her knees from behind. The dog had since dropped the ball, and startled by this sudden position, growls softly at the woman before taking off and running back to Rachel who called it. The dog is facing away from Sarah, side next to its owner. It's ears are back, it's butt is to Sarah and it is shaking from the treatment. Rachel tells Sarah not to touch her dog again (as seen has been doing the whole time). Before Rachel could stop her, Sarah reaches down and grabs the dog again by its waist. Terrified and seeing nothing else has worked, the dog snaps at her and catches her lip. The woman finally backs off. At the time (keep in mind this whole thing went down in like 2 minutes) Sarah admits it was her fault and she shouldn't have done it. At the time she admits it was her fault; she provoked the dog and ignored its warning. She lost a tooth and had to get a few stitches. RachEl had no time to react and stop it. Rachel thought of the trainer as a friend. Sarah seemed to admit it was her fault and apologize for her behavior. Rachel thought everything was cool.

Then a month or two later Rachel gets a rejection letter for her entry to an agility trial. Trying to find out why, she learns Sarah had been telling everyone that her dog attacked her unprovoked. That the dog was vicious and started making up stories to back her claim. Sarah goes so far as to say that Rachel had to beat the dog off her with a pole. That the dog has lunged at a handicapped person and repeatedly jumped 5 ft fencing. No. The dog has maybe jumped a 2 ft trial fence in excitement, but a random bystander is able to take its collar to return it (a rather common occurrence at shows with dogs new to trial). The dog is not at all aggressive, but because of this woman's lies and the breed, Rachel can no longer show or compete with her dog.

Sarah has since sent her a bill for her medical expenses and misses trials while she was "in the hospital" (She did not miss anything because of the injury and only required a few stitches. Hardly a hospital stay or recovery period). This woman who provoked the dog into its last resort.

At this point my friend is just wanting it to end. She wants to pay the bills and be done with it. She is terrified this woman will come after her and try to have her dog euthanized. She had threatened to do that very thing, said my friend is lucky that she didn't have the dog killed. Also had the nerve to tell my friend to get a breed more suited for a "novice" like a small terrier. -_- Sarah even offered to let Rachel come over again and run Sarah's dogs (since Rachel is no longer allowed to run her own dog). Yeah right. If Rachel ran the dog and heaven forbid it pulled a nail or sprained something, Sarah would be all over her saying it's retaliation.

Ugh. I'm just so angry this bitch is doing this to her! She hasn't even posted a picture of her dog since it started for fear it cause drama. Hasn't even posted her holiday pictures online. So she and her dog can't have fun at competition and she has to worry that she'll get a call or a piece of mail one day saying her dog must be destroyed. All because of the breed the dog is and because the bitch attacked the dog and provoked it into snapping at her. Bitch, if that dog wanted to hurt you you would be dead.

If someone tried that shit with my dog...it wouldn't have been my dog that bloodied her pretty little face.

Mermaid Jaffa
12-27-2015, 12:02 AM
Pretty sure your friend's dog isn't the only one she's trying to scam with.
A proper dog trainer doesn't use scare tactics and smacking to train animals. They use commands, whistle and dog treats. Smacking, grabbing and pulling the dog, just seems to frighten it even more, especially if the dog has not worked with that person before.

That lady deserve what she got for ignoring the dog's escape tactics and ultimately provoking it into biting her, just so it could get away from her.

Inkling
12-27-2015, 12:12 AM
Pretty sure your friend's dog isn't the only one she's trying to scam with.
A proper dog trainer doesn't use scare tactics and smacking to train animals. They use commands, whistle and dog treats. Smacking, grabbing and pulling the dog, just seems to frighten it even more, especially if the dog has not worked with that person before.

That lady deserve what she got for ignoring the dog's escape tactics and ultimately provoking it into biting her, just so it could get away from her.

This wasn't her usual "trainer", just a "friend" that invited her over for practice. Since the incident my friend has tried to cut all ties with her. I cannot even believe this woman. She is scamming/blackmailing my friend with the fear her dog will be put down. It is disgusting. If only I could help and do something about it. The problem is this lady is known and relatively respected by the clubs. If only they really knew who she was. It's just a she said, he said situation. :(

I kinda wish the whole thing was caught on video, and that the woman got more pain and trouble than she did. The same trouble she is causing my friend.

Mermaid Mystery
12-27-2015, 12:36 AM
I have been working in kitchen too much. every time I close my eyes all I see is kale.

Mermaid Jaffa
12-27-2015, 01:00 AM
I have been working in kitchen too much. every time I close my eyes all I see is kale.

:lol: Kale Tail!

Inkling, if your friend is up to it, bring the dog to the "training" again. And you go too, but bring a hidden camera. Or recording. Then you'd have proof of what the scammer is doing. This hearsay business, try to see if the other people who are authorities at the club, will hear your friend's side of the story. Or find others who have been wronged by this lady.

Mermaid Momo
12-27-2015, 02:32 PM
If I was your friend I would have posted my side of the story of what really happened to at least get it out there and get it known that she's a liar. She should also threaten Sarah with legal action if she keeps dirtying her name with lies and scamming her out of money.

I know you're probably tired of my wedding bitches but I met my fiancé's mom and family again on Xmas and his mom drops the bomb that she wants us to get married in the Catholic Church (he's atheist and I'm baptist. We're both witches) and I'm really not feeling a church wedding. Not only does it require I convert and attend bible studies but te churches here are all ugly, I haven't found one with beautiful stain glass inside, they're all so plain and I don't want plain I want beautiful.

My parents told me upon learning of what his mom wants that "it's you getting married not her, if you don't want to get married in the church then don't " and my dad jokingly said "tell her then that I require you get married in the baptist way with added witch stuff".

I know it's my wedding and I have the final say but family is really important to my fiancé and choosing not to get married in the church means his family won't accept our marriage as a legal one and that will most likely mean that we won't be seeing them much and it will get tense between his family and us and I don't want to do that to him over one day. The only thing I can see of to avoi it is to convert, attend church, get my paperwork, and get married and get married in a lackluster ceremony in a church (maybe of I just concentrate on him I won't really care that the church looks like a school cafeteria haha). I hear traditional catholic ceremonies are long and boring though and long and boring is not something I do well.


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Naufra
12-27-2015, 02:52 PM
Momo is right, Inkling, slander and blackmail are both crimes. Your friend should go to the police for help at this point.

Adalira
12-27-2015, 03:02 PM
Momo....I am so sorry to hear you are going through this. I really dislike family trying to controll a wedding like that.
I believe it happens in almost every family though, wether they want to controll the guests that come, the food that is served, the venue it is at or in your case controll the ceremony and religion.
I am truly sorry to hear this.
Do you see your fiancees family a lot right now?
If you don't see them much as it is, nothing really would change.
On the other hand i can see why you would do it to keep the peace though and make everyone happy.
All i can say though is make a decision that will make YOU and your fiance happy the most on that day.
This is your special day and no one else's

On a whole different note....you are witches?
I need to hear more about that one day (i understand your focus is somewhere else completely right now).
My great grandmother was a witch and i would love to hear your history and how you came about to be a witch.

Sending you hugs in this stressful time for you :hug:

Mermaid Clara
12-27-2015, 04:09 PM
Mom and dad are fighting again... It started because mom didn't checked the washing machine water level when she started a load of laundry. It's been going on for almost 30 minuets now. My day is now ruined. She's an bipolar alcoholic and starting to stop taking her medicine. Last time when she stopped taking her medicine she got a dui and totaled her car and spent a night in jail. She threatening to kick my dad out if he get my grandparents involved. She is starting to drink again too. She is a compulsive liar so she denies everything when it come to being confronted about her medicine and drinking problem. She refuses to go to a doctor to get better medicine, she lies to every doctor. She always claims that the meds don't work, but she refuses to go to a doctor to get new meds. She doesn't care about what her actions cause, she doesn't care that her actions hurt me and my dad. The only good thing about living with an alcoholic is that you'll never want to look, touch, or drink alcohol. I'm so paranoid that I'm going to be an addict.


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Sabrina the Selkie
12-27-2015, 04:32 PM
My best friend's dad has issues with cocaine. He lost his job over it, and nearly died of an overdose coupled with multiple strokes in quick succession last year.. be went from being head chef at a fancy restaurant to making crepes at the local pizza place and covertly fiddling with their recipes. On the bright side, the food there has seen a subtle but drastic increase in quality.

My family hasn't been directly affected by drugs (although some of my mom's half siblings we just met have - her brother lost his daughter - my cousin? - to quote "demons") so I can't say I really understand what you're going through, but I have immense sympathy.

*hug*

Sabrina the Selkie
12-27-2015, 04:33 PM
And that goes to Tieri too.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-27-2015, 06:18 PM
And on another matter. My mom's half brother on her mom's end (she has eleven on her father's end) is being the megadick he is and decided to come to Chicago with no notice and just pretend nothing's wrong. My grandmother and my mother are both refusing to see him, so guess who gets to play diplomat with that asshole who's just gonna rub his wealth in everyone's face.

It just bothers him that my mom's the love child and he's the marriage child. Bastard. Or. Well. I suppose my mom's the bastard, but you get what I mean.

SeaGlass Siren
12-27-2015, 06:28 PM
Momo I feel your pain. My husbands parents wanted me to do a tea ceremony which threw off the entire itinerary for the day of. I don't want to be a complete bitch about it because it's your decision in the end but if i were you ;bitchiness on: I'd rather have the wedding you always wanted and cut them out if the picture because at least they won't bother you during holidays. :bitchiness turned off:

Sabrina the Selkie
12-27-2015, 06:44 PM
Agree with SeaGlass there. I can't imagine your fiance is happy with this. Could he speak against it to his family?

Mermaid Momo
12-27-2015, 06:50 PM
Agree with SeaGlass there. I can't imagine your fiance is happy with this. Could he speak against it to his family?

He said he wants to do it for his family (note his family, not himself) I'm trying not to make a big deal out of it since it is just one day, but all I can think of is that it's one very very very long day which will now be wasted by prayer, and other stuff that I couldn't care less about. (and not to mention that we have to attend counseling in the church before the wedding which I know the dang priest or whatever will question me about why I'm not catholic and if I'll consider converting to catholic for the sake of the marriage because one whole session is devoted to "god and your marriage" )

SeaGlass Siren
12-27-2015, 07:00 PM
Whatever you decide to do you can always bitchc it out here <3

PhaylennMurúch
12-27-2015, 08:37 PM
the whole point of a marriage in a church is to devote the marriage to the church. Ask your DF if he feels comfortable lying during your wedding.

As a married woman myself, I say don't change your wedding to please your future in-laws because once you let them be a third party in your marriage means that they (MIL mostly from what I read) will feel like they (she) have a say in your entire life as a couple and Neptune help you if you ever have kids because that won't be about you either, it'll be about what the In-laws want.

SeaGlass Siren
12-27-2015, 09:03 PM
^ zsnaps. All over that.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-27-2015, 10:06 PM
Preach it, Phaylenn.

Rydian Roze
12-27-2015, 10:22 PM
So I went to work today for a six hour shift and when I got in I was told that I was on lobby. First of all, lobby was already fucking done when I got their and second of all YOU CAN NOT SPEND A WHOLE SIX HOURS DOING NOTHING BUT LOBBY!
So my manager had me clean the insides of the trash cans, which was the most disgusting thing I've ever had to do in my life. So I'm cleaning one of the trash cans and I have to spray it with degreaser because its so gross but some asshole didn't close the bottle all the way so the bottom fell off and it splashed in my eyes and mouth which ended in the worst panic attack I've had in probably three years. The two managers didn't do a fucking thing so i had to call my mom to come get me because i lost my contacts. And I had to go to the hospital to get my fucking stomach pumped.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-27-2015, 10:24 PM
That's awful. Oh gods. I'm so sorry Roze.

deepblue
12-27-2015, 10:29 PM
Gah! Sorry to hear that, I hope you're recovering well, Roze.

Rydian Roze
12-28-2015, 12:45 AM
Thanks guys��
Feeling much better now. Took all my pain med and antibiotics and stuff. Still really hate my job. I can't wait till summer when I can start at the aquarium again.

Adalira
12-28-2015, 03:07 AM
Agree with everything Phaylenn and Seaglass said, very well said both of you!

Adalira
12-28-2015, 03:09 AM
@ Rydian Rose, i am so sorry to hear about that. That must have been awfull for you! Glad to hear you are recovering well though, sending a big hug to you :hug:

Rydian Roze
12-28-2015, 05:22 AM
Thank you guys so much:p:)

Saren
12-28-2015, 06:00 AM
Hey Momo I know how you feel. And trust me as someone who caved just to make her MIL happy I'm telling you don't. DONT. Do what YOU want to do, because in the end it's you and your fiancé. Go with what you and him want to do. Does he want to get married in the Catholic Church, being an atheist? Does he want you to attend the bible study classes? As a Defected Christian who got married in a Morman church and had my wedding planned by my mother, I'm telling you do what YOU and YOUR PARTNER wants. It's your marriage. Come together and celebrate as a newly created family the way YOU want to.


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Rydian Roze
12-28-2015, 05:35 PM
Hey Momo, so I understand this a lot because my family is made of eclectic witches but. Ex fiancé's family was Catholic. He was an atheist but wanted to marry in a church for his parents however I just needed to point out to him the our wedding was for us. It was about starting our lives together and joining our hearts and souls not about pleasing his parents. I hope it all work out all right. Good luck.

Sabrina the Selkie
12-28-2015, 06:10 PM
Good luck. The Catholic church can be really difficult to deal with when you're not Catholic.

It's a great system for Catholics, but...

Just try to find some middle ground with the MIL. They're her traditions, not yours, and maybe she can see that with some hard work and patience.

SeaMansa
12-28-2015, 07:01 PM
Momo, you are a better person than I.
I am not saying to take my advice, because even as a Christian, I am not a fan of weddings, nor do I plan on having a "Traditional" one should I ever get married at all. But if it were me, I'd have laid it out as soon as it became a discussion. "This is who I am, this is who I'm not. This isn't the way I, or my fiancé, want our wedding to be. Sorry, and with all due respect, I want you all to accept me into your family, and you all into mine, but it won't be by forcing your beliefs onto me or vice versa. You can come to the wedding. Or not. But I won't be converting to anything or doing anything in general that neither me or my fiancé are cool with. I won't do any of this to even entertain you or make you feel more comfortable. This day has to be a positive memory for me, not one I felt I was forced to do. Now, I think you all should be apart of this, and I hope I can have your help, guidance, and blessing in this wedding and this relationship. But let's not get things twisted."
I can be a bit of a bitch (on the inside) but that is basically how I feel about it.
You and your fiancé are starting a new life together. And families are important. But, again, don't let things gets twisted trying to please someone else. This is YOUR day. This has to be one of the these you look back on and smile, not groan.

Mermaid Clara
12-28-2015, 09:49 PM
I just fucking got kicked out of community college because I a D in one of my classes. I was on my second semester of academic probation and because I got one failing grade I'm kicked out of school. I'm such a fucking joke as a human being, I can't even function as an independent young adult/teenager. To make it even worse I insisted to take the same teacher again and refused to take a different teacher for Spanish. Maybe if I just took a different teacher I would still be in college right now. My life is over, I'm probably going to be kicked out of my parents house unless I find a way to get back into school or find a second job. I'm surprised that I haven't been beaten or stabbed to death by my father. Anyway my life is shit now. I feel like such a fucking idiot.


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Sabrina the Selkie
12-28-2015, 09:50 PM
Oh Kelly. I'm so sorry.

Mermaid Lilium
12-29-2015, 04:38 AM
I just fucking got kicked out of community college because I a D in one of my classes. I was on my second semester of academic probation and because I got one failing grade I'm kicked out of school. I'm such a fucking joke as a human being, I can't even function as an independent young adult/teenager. To make it even worse I insisted to take the same teacher again and refused to take a different teacher for Spanish. Maybe if I just took a different teacher I would still be in college right now. My life is over, I'm probably going to be kicked out of my parents house unless I find a way to get back into school or find a second job. I'm surprised that I haven't been beaten or stabbed to death by my father. Anyway my life is shit now. I feel like such a fucking idiot.


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*all the squishy mer-hugs*

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Merman Arion
12-29-2015, 06:27 AM
@Momo

All that Phaylenn and SeaGlass said. Preach gurls :hail:

Adalira
12-29-2015, 12:02 PM
@ KellyMermaid :hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug: :hug::hug: I am so sorry that you are going through such a hard time

Amphitrite
12-29-2015, 11:42 PM
I'm having a rough night and I don't know why. *cries and whimpers in her corner*

Sabrina the Selkie
12-29-2015, 11:54 PM
I'm sorry, Amphitrite

Saren
12-30-2015, 12:26 PM
Sorry, Amphitrite